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    The Green Turd - 19/05/17 Winter mode engaded

    The mountains around Queenstown do no favours to 250T owners... An engine that already has a reputation for being 'a bit' unreliable, given to backpackers with no concept of vehicle maintenance, then flogged up and down the ski field access roads leads to some killer deals to be had, and an even worse reputation for unreliability. So that lead to me picking up a pretty mint car, for, well, $50. And the name came thanks to my mate Mitch and his coworkers who used to have a work car that was a BG9 250T, they surmised the T must stand for turd.

    I bought this car with the intention of using it as a wee money spinner, a good ol fix'n'flick. I had Ace ventura (A BF3 Auto) as the hack wagon anyway... But after dropping in a new motor, I sorta though 'why should I sell this when I can sell Ace?' The turd is surprisingly full of features, this thing is bloody specced out! Full leather interior, with heated front seats, dual sunroofs, dual airbags, heated power folding mirrors, heated windscreen wipers, and cruise control to boot... Once we got this thing running, it proved to be quite a nice car! Gutless as all hell through. Still not bad for $50 of car, $100 of engine, and $160 for the rad.

    Specs for the JDM curious, and nerdy
    Build date: 21-02-1995
    Chassis: BG9-008516
    Applied model: BG9A5AE
    Engine: EJ25-287134

    It's running a BF5 VZ EJ20D (DOHC roller rocker HLA) now which I picked up for a hundy, with the BG9A manifold. The 250T ECU had no low down balls on this motors, so I found and installed a BG5A TS-R ECU (Added bonus of 7500 redline!), which only barely helped things out. It's quite peppy over 4000rpm though. I suspect there are some sensor or grounding issues, as it doesn't like cold running, and can even stall at idle when it idle hunts sometimes. We installed a new radiator though, and she runs cool as a cucumber, hits operating temp and glues itself there, no matter if ascending the crown to going up Fernhill foot flat in first. And the auto trans doesn't even bind!!! I have a full manual conversion for this in my storage out in Cromwell now too, but the box needs rebuilding, has play on the input shaft, and leaks out every orifice (400,000k old Hi-Lo NZ new box from a BG5). I also plan on rebuilding the dead 250T engines I have, and plonkling one back in this thing, just because they run so much better with them. The 20D is just a fucking slug when hauling a big arse BG. Fine in a light little Impreza or BC, but in the turd, it's inadequate.

    Other poorly things of note with this car is the paint job is fucked, the roof is peeled to fuck. The leather is rock hard and cracking, and I'm in the process of pricing up a re-upholster with nice new vinyl (vinyl these days is amazing, and the only way I can match the grey). there's also a big dent in the passenger sill, which is pulling the skirt out.

    Still not bad for a $250 car.


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    At the moment, given the nature of our accomodation, I have no option but to haul the majority of my tools around with me. It handles it eeeaaaasssyyyy.... (if not a little scrapey scrape over bumps and whatnot)


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    Still room for a passenger in the back!


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    1991 VZ BF5C DOHC Roller rocker HLA EJ20D Long block
    Added outback woodgrain air vents to complement the exsisting woodgrain (oh yeah, we're going full tacky with this baby!)(currently hunting for a center air vent cover too)
    JVC KD-R971BT Head unit, with CS-V628 250w 6.5" speakers all round. I tried rocking it old school with the factory JDM radios, but all the CD's skipped.
    BH5D GT-B muffler with the dual entry, welded open in full noise mode
    BF5 GT turbo headers to give it that boxer burble we all love
    Brand new KYB Excel-G's
    GTB 20mm front, 19mm rear sway bars
    King (brand) outback lift springs in the rear, since this car is often loaded to the hilt, or seen with a trailer in tow.

    Planned: Manual conversion with a Hi-Lo box - Box acquired, but 400,000KM old, and needs new bearings and synchros first.
    Planned: Rebuilding the dead EJ25 and plopping it back in
    Conversion to N/A style crossmember, and running VZ-R style twin runner exhausts (that joins aft of the transmission, rather than under the front diff)
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    What are the switches near the heated seat buttons?

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    One should be "Winter Hold" to lock out 1st gear to make snow/ice start easier. The other looks like it is a switch filler or an aftermarket switch as it is a slightly different color from the other switches. That position would normally be for the height control, but the 250T didnt have that.

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    Correct, snow hold switch, and the other is for the heater strip under the windsheild wipers.
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    So for the last two months we've been living in a mouldy house down a muddy driveway covered in, deciduous pine trees (i did not know such things exsisted), and it's autumn... Yeah, it's been mighty crap, and those tiny little pine needles just get EVERYWHERE!

    Thankfully over the weekend, we got moved to a nice new house, which is bloody fantastic, and the best part, no more mud, no more stairs, no more fucking pine needels!!! The turd proved it's usefullness yet again, hauling an arse tonne of crap, without a care in the world. This morning I de-needled it, thankfully my other two cars never stayed at that temp house. It was a damn good feeling I tell you what. I also set about to fix the twin sunroofs, my front sunroof has never worked, there's an up-down switch for it, to crack it open, but it's never gone. so we took the switch panel off, and, well, that's all we did, it started working... must havbe been a lose connection! BUT, turns out unlike the facelifts, the front sunroof is fixed in place... Turns out it's the rear sunroof that cracks open, so you can choose to crack it open, or retract it. Interesting. Now all that's left to do is clean out the drain tubes so it stops soaking the passenger seatbelt whenever it rains!!! eeeew. At the moment the turd is the garage acting like the king of the house, while the windows are cracked open, and the passnger seatbelt is tied around the shifter so that it dries out, while it rains outside. O how we take garages for granted

    Oh, since my last post, I've also fitted outback rear struts, to correct the ride height with the tools in the back and while towing, which seems to be it's natural state. Temp fix, have some heave duty lift springs on order, so that I may get my corrected rideheight, and still have full suspension travel (the outback struts sit the arse at the right height, but they are compressed, so have no travel before the bump stops, even though it looks fine).
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    It's always nice to have a beater around. The sunroof is interesting though. Really odd. All the duals we had are like the limiteds.

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    What's that? Front cracks open, rear retracts? That's all I've ever seen in action, but that's me only seeing them in action on facelifts. This is the first pre-facelift I've had a play with.
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    We only had the dual sun roofs on 98-99 BG9's. Then the BH, but nothing before that. BD and BK's got single sunroofs and those are really common, but for the most part, duals over here on a 2nd gen is not common at all.

    The front glass would vent and the rear slid back. Like your GT-B.

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    Beast is non sunroof, I made sure of that when buying, even when they were less than 10 years old (got beast when it was 9 years old), the reputation for leaks was enough that I didn't want a bar of if! The turd is my first sunroof car!
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    Little update. The Green Turd seems to keep soldiering on, but the ABS issue has got worse, the ABS pump got stuck on the other day, thankfully I'm no stranger to this sorta shit, it happened right before I reached my destination, so was able to get out and unplug the pump nice and quickly. I'm going to finally fix it this weekend, cause I need to get a wof... Codes say bad voltage off both rear sensors, so at least I know where to start. I'm considering just replacing the sensors, but my gut tells me they're fine, and it's something else fucking with them... Both sides...

    In other news, the outback struts did their intended job of getting me by for a short time. One was leaking bad, and they kept hitting the pumps. Couple of weekends ago I fitting some heavy duty lift springs to the original struts, and they worked a treat, looks like stock height with all my crap in the back, much firmer so drives like stock with all the crap too. Now to get some new rear shocks since the old ones were pretty knackered. Pics to come later.
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    Did rocker covers today. Glorious BC/BF VZ-R EJ20D, shines up nicely. Did the plugs while I was in there, found it had PFR6B-11's fitted! Luxury. None of that for the turd, good ol nickel BKR6E-11's now Shoved an inspection cam in, not a single cyl had any carbon scalling, goes to show my driving style gets my cars nice and carbon free. Was very surprised by the pistons though, practically the same design as the V7 STi pistons that went in beast. I wonder if these have plenty of clearance for me to fuck around with cam timing... Hmmmmmmm....


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    Glorious first gen parts eh?

    The green turd has been plodding along nicely last few months. There's a miss which has been getting worse and worse at idle. Initially thought plugs, but then remembered I've just changed those... so I'm looking at an ailing green AFM or o2 now... Bugger. And after driving the beast for 3000km, I get back to the turd and realise the heater isn't as good as I'd like it to be. An only warm blowing heater is a semi blocked heater, and semi blocked heaters lead to engine overheats. I want this car to be DIALED, so gotta do something about that before reselling.

    In the mean time I'm continuing to mod it to be my own, until it's confirmed that I'm selling it. Today I hope to go get some new boot floors and a rubber mat from the farm, since I've done a pretty good job of fucking the old ones. I'm also going to be buying in a new front grille, since I found a genuine style aftermarket one still available, and for only $100NZ out of the box! And the other day the mirror folding motor decided to internally dissassemble itself and now the mirror just keeps winding, it doesn't know where the stop is, so if folds all the way forwards when you fold them out then just pathetically just jiggles about as the motor stays on... So currently is rocking a mechanically MINT silver mirror, while I wait for new glass to come in from subaru (heated glass too... bloody expensive stuff!) so I can transfer the guts of my silver mirror to the green housing, since no green power folding heated mirrors were in the wreckers circles.

    Should have taken a video of it just winding all the way forwards, was bloody hilarious.
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    Still haven't sorted the miss... New air flow meter and o2 made no difference. It kind of got alright so I ignored it for a few months, but as the cold weather sets in it's become really rather bothersome... Coolant temp sensors next.

    Few months back when the weather was still warm too, I decided to fix the sunroof leak. All sunroofs leak, that's not an issue, there's a drain pan the leak dribbles into from factory. The drain tubes from my pan had shrunk off on the front two, so parking nose down in the rain would result in wet seatbelts...


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    Was really not a hirrible job, 2.5-3 hours start to finish, would do again. Got the drains back on, hose clamped them, and blew some air down em for good measure. Totally fixed the problem! Nice!



    In other news, GTB front (20mm) and rear (19mm) sway bars fitted, and brand new KYB Exel G's fitted to the front (rears comming in a few weeks). Quit the improvement to handling, it's quite good now!!

    Disregard those wheels... they belong to The Beast, spiffy upgrade! The turd was just borrowing them for a while.




    Speaking of mods... It was unclear for a long time weather or not I was going to keep this car... I bought an H6 BH Outback 6 months ago with a blown motor... But the more I think about that one, the more I'd rather just cash in and buy a new gaming rig, rather than upgrade from the turd. As nice as BH's are, this one was a touch rougher than my turd, and let's face it, I've been a BG owner since 2005, I got a soft spot for them.

    So the green turd stays, you will be seeing a lot more of this car in the comming years, as any car I own, I can't NOT modify... Mods already done are a fresh set of exel G struts, the heavy duty rear lift springs, GTB sway bars, and turbo exhaust manifold since they are a direct bolt on to 250T's. Oh, and EJ20 swap.

    On the planned list:
    Conversion to standard N/A style crossmember, from the factory turbo crossmember that 250T's got, and running some VZ-R extractors. These are a factory 4-2-1 collector style, where the y joins aft of the gearbox. You get these massive long runners that run from each head down each side of the trans. Quite a neat option, and are what I think is needed to regain my lost low-down torque!
    Manual conversion, because fuck auto's. Already have a complete Hi-lo conversion in my storage, only issue is the box is 400,000KM old, so I want to rebuild it with new syncro's and bearings. Side note, I've yet to see a 400,000K old subaru auto with my own eyes.
    Rebuild an EJ25 and convert it back from the 2L. As mentioned, lack of low down torque is a bit sucky with the current setup. Might port and polish it for the lolz, since I can.
    Re-do the leather
    BBS 16" wheels like the blighter has

    Other than that, it's kind of good as is... The 250T is highly underrated.
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    Do you guy's think GT E-spec style 16 in 5-spoke mags... Or GT B-spec style BBS's? Bear in mind my BC already has the BBS's.









    I also have these wheels in my storage... they might look good on the turd too...

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    I like the BBS wheels. I also like the GC wheels that you have in storage.
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    Well our first snow of the season is forecast for this evening, so I went out to our storage unit yesterday and swapped on my snow tyres. Naturally I picled the WRX wheels (yeah, I have a selection...) to see what they look like. I like it, very classy, ery much of the era. But I think I'd still like a set of the BBS for the summer wheels... I know of a mostly complete set kicking around at a friends farm, I'll see if I can find all 4...


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    Dry seatbelts and wintermode ftw! Those wheels do look quite good on BGs, eh?
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