Apparently Subaru is not FTW

Plays_with_Toys · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:22 pm

Top gear, Evo 10 vs. STi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FYrMeBeBo8&NR=1

But, if you want the truth, then watch the stig driving the cars and remember sliding =/= speed.

decke48 · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:22 pm

ohh well i agreed the evo 10 is better then the v9? sti. its sad

BE-Fresh · Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:10 pm

Yeah I was shocked to see the STi win the stig's test

auspex · Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:09 am

so, the EVO they tested had 360 hp???

Which model is that?

auspex · Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:13 am

ok, ok...on the actual track test they used the standard 300hp Evo....AND THE SUBIE TAKES IT!!!!!

I have to admit, watching STi in corners...That thing is gross looking

Plays_with_Toys · Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:27 pm

Yeah... but the evo competes with the WRX, and the STi should compete with the 360 horsepower evo, as that is mitsubishi's top model. So the mitsu still would've won.

auspex · Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:55 pm

I don't get that logic at all...we're talking 20% more hp. Just cuz they are the tops don't mean the compete..hahahh

deadlydave · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:21 am

Plays_with_Toys wrote:

Yeah... but the evo competes with the WRX, and the STi should compete with the 360 horsepower evo, as that is mitsubishi's top model. So the mitsu still would've won.

With the current exchange rate, 7k British Pounds is a bit less than 14 thousand US dollars.

The STi is $14,000 LESS than the 'standard' Evo. The Evolution X FQ360 is even more than that. The FQ should be tested against a special model STi, but none exists yet for the new body. And a WRX is cheaper still, so it wouldn't make sense to compare the base model evo to the WRX.

So the STi beat a car that costs 14 grand more (barely beat). The FQ360 would be faster, but they didn't test it, and they didn't mention the price(at least a few grand more).

addiction102 · Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:49 pm

I want to see Top Gear to a GOOD comparo for the Legacy, like an AWD sports sedan comparo. It got 2nd in Car and Driver's comparo...

BE-Fresh · Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:33 pm

I don't see how the WRX and EVO X are rivals. The WRX has less power, so it's not even...even lol. I could see the WRX goin against the new Lancer Ralliart, but I don't think thats AWD is it?

1-3-2-4 · Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:17 pm

Wow they took that video down quick...

deadlydave · Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:30 am

BE-Fresh wrote:

I don't see how the WRX and EVO X are rivals. The WRX has less power, so it's not even...even lol. I could see the WRX goin against the new Lancer Ralliart, but I don't think thats AWD is it?

The new Lancer Ralliart will be an AWD hatchback, with the detuned 4b11 from the evo. The new WRX will have 265bhp and better tires than the Rex's of yore. It'll be a tough fight. :razz:

Huffer · Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:04 am

BE-Fresh wrote:

I don't see how the WRX and EVO X are rivals.

Japanese rally-heritage. That's all.

Shoot if [insert jap manufacturer] was still in the game you'd see a 3-way shootout.

Airgne · Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:07 am

if you look back at older top gear shoot outs the evo beat the sti wrx back in the day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sBurzYyMcU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEL3CBiy ... re=related

deadlydave · Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:16 am

Evo's always housed on the STi, the only ones that have been regarded as 'better' on topgear and 5th gear were the 22B, STi type R, and the Boner-Inducing Litchfield type 25.

IwannaRally · Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:03 pm

Wasn't the original WRX created by Colin McRae?

shazapple · Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:48 am

They're not compared because of their power or price. They are compared because of their target market. If you compare things by price and power then we should have a STi vs F150 comparo.

Top Gear just doesn't care about some things when they are doing their comparo (and if you are buying a 50 grand suped up econobox, you probably don't care too much about price anyway)

deadlydave · Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:38 am

deadlydave wrote:

The new Lancer Ralliart will be an AWD hatchback, with the detuned 4b11 from the evo. The new WRX will have 265bhp and better tires than the Rex's of yore. It'll be a tough fight. :razz:

Just read a Road&Track article, the Ralliart was a sedan?...SO I guess it'll be availible as both.

Previous Lancer Ralliarts were regular lancers with evo suspension bits and some Kit. The new Lancer Ralliart is a Lancer GTS with an evo engine and drivetrain, but regular lancer suspension.

Huffer · Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:46 am

IwannaRally wrote:

Wasn't the original WRX created by Colin McRae?

No. Colin McRae never built a Subaru. He raced them.

Huffer · Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:47 am

Ralliart = STI - the tuning race development divisions.

jg09 · Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:42 pm

After reading all the posts, I've decided that I should be given a brand new Legacy, STi, and Evo. 'Nuff said.

Scott01GT · Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:26 pm

Can anybody remeber this video and know where to find it?

SilentRacer · Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:05 pm

Scott01GT wrote:

Can anybody remeber this video and know where to find it?

Topgear season 11, episode 2........check your local torrent site.

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