I am now burning oil! (internal aftermarket parts?)

[httrdd]

:-( This is just another reason to build up the internals. What do you guys recomend to do as far as aftermarket crank and pistons since I will have the engine tore apart. I would like to stay n/a unless I change my mind. I am building this up for performance anyways, so just another excuse to mod! :grin:

[Huffer]

www.techworkseng.com (http://www.techworkseng.com) can probably provide you with a lot of nice info. Cobb might have info that would be useful, just pretend you have a 98 DOHC Impreza RS.

[impreza_GC8]

There could be a number of reasons why you are burning oil. Its probably just a leaky seal. If I were you I'd replace the seal and maybe do some other maintenance and not touch the internals. Save for a swap if you really want to go that route. N/A builds are generally not worth it.

[httrdd]

I will check the seal and keep the car n/a. I will show the power of the DOHC!!! :grin:

[httrdd]

Might of found nice heads that have been ported and polished and new internals and gaskets!!! Yumm! Will update on my members rides thread.

[httrdd]

Huffer keep your eyes off my parts!! :smt021 :grin: Those heads are nice huh! It will be a race between you and I to get these in January won't it?

[Huffer]

True, but I think the price is too much for a set of heads even with a pnp job. I'm pretty sure Deltacam will pnp heads and supply cams for less, or I can just have my builder do it. I only subscribed to see what/if those heads will sell for.

Are you really doing an NA build?

[patrack92314]

u could be leaking oil through the valve seats that would cause u to burn oil or the rings . those are the only possible places

[httrdd]

True, but I think the price is too much for a set of heads even with a pnp job. I'm pretty sure Deltacam will pnp heads and supply cams for less, or I can just have my builder do it. I only subscribed to see what/if those heads will sell for.

Are you really doing an NA build?

Wow all those errors I was having last night I was not able to reply back! :lol: Yes I am going n/a

[httrdd]

Yea those heads do look overpriced, but it says obo. If I can find a set of dohc heads I can rebuild internals and get them pnped. I am not looking for a race car, just love this little car and I want to see what I can get out of it. Hopefully inspire others.

[Huffer]

^^ same as me then. I am tired of having a low wagon that looks fast...and is fast around the corner, but once I hit a straight I run out of puff. I also want something lower maintenance than an FI setup. :) So you and I will have to compare notes at some point.

[4n70n1n0]

Save for a swap if you really want to go that route. N/A builds are generally not worth it.

I have to agree. If you want as much POWER for your DOLLAR go with a wrx or sti swap, but...............

If you are nutz about your car(as I am, and apparently Huffer) be prepared to PAY!

High Comp Pistons - TechWorks
PnP Heads - Delta Cams
Delta Cams - Delta Cams
PnP Intake Manifold and Throttle Body - Grimmspeed


and remember to have fun with it. If you forget to have fun with it, it makes it all worthless

*EDIT:
Did you read Perdue's Sticky? - - - > So you wanna go fast? [Perdue's N/A Tuning Guide] (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11403)

[httrdd]

^^ same as me then. I am tired of having a low wagon that looks fast...and is fast around the corner, but once I hit a straight I run out of puff. I also want something lower maintenance than an FI setup. :) So you and I will have to compare notes at some point.

Cool man I hope I can offer you some good info. I understand how you feel too about looking fast and not being fast. I can see plenty cash being spent, but a good project to take on. All of my experience is with diesels and V8s so cut the work in half with a 4 cyllinder. :lol:

[httrdd]

Save for a swap if you really want to go that route. N/A builds are generally not worth it.

I have to agree. If you want as much POWER for your DOLLAR go with a wrx or sti swap, but...............

If you are nutz about your car(as I am, and apparently Huffer) be prepared to PAY!

High Comp Pistons - TechWorks
PnP Heads - Delta Cams
Delta Cams - Delta Cams
PnP Intake Manifold and Throttle Body - Grimmspeed


and remember to have fun with it. If you forget to have fun with it, it makes it all worthless

*EDIT:
Did you read Perdue's Sticky? - - - > So you wanna go fast? [Perdue's N/A Tuning Guide] (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11403)

Thanks for the link. How much cash do you have in yours right now? I checked out techworks and called a local speed shop for some pricing. Delta cams does some nice heads and cam for sure.

[4n70n1n0]

Im only stock piling parts at the moment, but out of that list that I gave you I'm only doing Delta Cams. My Pnp is being done by a friend.

[impreza_GC8]

I will check the seal and keep the car n/a. I will show the power of the DOHC!!! :grin:
There is no power for you there. Too much money spent and you'll still be slower than lightly modded WRXs. But "fast" is a relative term. BTW, it was mentioned in this thread that there is more maintenance involved in turbo'ed setups. I'd have to disagree. Anything modified is going to present more maintenance issues. You can have 1.) fast 2.) reliable or 3.) cheap but you can only pick 2 out of those 3.

[Huffer]

I'd like to respectfully disagree on the "built motor" aspect of NA vs. Turbo. A stock turbo engine or NA is (usually) very reliable. Very few "built" turbo and NA motors can be considered "reliable". For reliability to be a characteristic you have to consider the vast majority of motorists do oil changes 2000 miles over the recommended mileage, don't warm the engine up properly and generally are pretty neglectfully abusive from an engineering standpoint. People who are on enthusiast boards represent a vocal minority, and as such are a skewed demographic in terms of reliability etc.

Any engine, turbo or NA, that is "built" (beyond factory spec) is going to be more maintenance - just how much more depends on how far you're pushing things. Stuff like cams or exhausts aren't much, really. When you get into upping boost, or modifying your air/fuel ratio side of things you're creeping up the scale of increased maintenance. Road and drag guys know this well.

As for my build - I'm aiming at better throttle response, better low-mid range torque and overall just a nicer engine to rev. Nothing crazy. I certainly don't imagine I'll be able to keep up with a stock WRX on the freeway or even on a 1/4mile. But if I don't have to change a gear hitting an on/off ramp or approaching a Chicago box, that's fine with me. I'm not the best driver anyway.

Given my goals in mind, I want to run 87/89 gas, and just get in and go. I don't want to worry about my A/F ratios or constantly be monitoring oil and fuel pressure. I like looking at the road. :)

I'll pick reliable and cheap to get to my "fast" (which it won't be haha).

[jey]

That's why, when it comes to power, it's hard to beat a straight WRX motor swap. OEM reliability. And cost is not too bad, especially when comparing with an NA build. Cams and head work isn't all that cheap.

[Huffer]

^^ naturally. But I don't want to run premium fuel, so boost is out of the picture. A full swap would be great, if I could afford the higher ongoing costs.

[httrdd]

Yes thank you Huffer. I have not had to respond cause you are giving all of the answers. I do not want to have to run more than 89 octane! I just want to have more fun with more power. If I wanted to build a n/a race car I would buy my Trans Am. I can see myself getting about 50-75hp after I am all done (maybe more :smt017 )! :smt026

[Huffer]

LOL. Maybe we are building the same car!

[httrdd]

Good man maybe we can work each others problems out, cause I am sure I will have them. Don't know why so many are against us? :smt017 Its our money and it seems that we know what we are getting into.

[Huffer]

They're not against us. It's just that bang for buck, pony to pony, a WRX swap is a better "investment". So in terms of pure dollars and cents, a WRX swap is better, but "building" an NA block produces less power per dollar than a turbo build does.

However, it's the elusive "what's fun for you" factor that people cannot quantify.