Prodrive or Stromung exhaust (I went with Prodrive)

[nwsubie]

I need to replace my muffler on my 00 gt wagon. I'm looking at a few different exhausts and wanted some different opinions between a Prodrive and Stromung! Who's got either and how do you like them?

[Huffer]

Prodrive exhausts are like "super street". It's quite and civilised, but still hints at "something more". The Stromung stuff is more aggressive, from what I've heard. I prefer the Prodrive because I'm not into attracting unwanted attention.

They both flow pretty well.

[4n70n1n0]

I say got custom

I love to rave bout having stromung or a prodrive if I had one, but those are just sticker prices.

Ever come across a exhaust system that had a muffler that looked SIK!, but was not for your car. Well it can be, if you go custom.

Get yourself a nice muffler of your liking, get a LONG resinator or glass pack(which ever is your preference) and get a exhaust shop to make you a cat back. Have them put the resinator or glass pack as close to the cats as possible, and make the piping 2.25 or 2.5 inches(which ever is your preference) and go home happier.

That way it will look like what you want it to, but i can't guarrantee on the noise.

[nwsubie]

Thanks for all the input so far! I did check with a local muffler shop about making me a custom exhaust and was not happy with what the guy had to say. Told him that I wanted to see about them building me something custom. His reply was: "what do you want to do, make it louder or something? Then I talked to him about deleting one cat and he said " oh know you dont want to do that"! He also asked if my car was from Cali? I told him that the original owner did purchase in Cali. He then proceeded to tell me that I better just go back to stock!! WTF....dude was a complete idiot! Needless to say he wont be getting anywhere near my subie!! I'll definately get a second opinion. Anybody have any shop suggestions for up here in the Seattle area??

[Huffer]

The exhaust shop is covering their butts. You can't "delete" a cat - but what you can do is pay them to build you a "track only" system. They don't have to install it, just build it. Then it's not their fault if you get ticketed - you built it yourself.

You can just go to a proper "race" shop and have them build something quality.

[HeresMyMind]

go with stromung, best of the best. you pay for what you get. With a full stromung exhaust + HFC (stromung). CAI and ignition coil I put down better HP #'s than anyone else with the same mods but different exhausts. antinino with 2.5" piping put down 131. and he also had more mods than me including manifold spacers.

-B

[4n70n1n0]

:smt006 You keep forgetting that you have a rebuild motor compared to my 170K+ mile motor.
I didn't have the Intake Manifold Spacer when I put down 131WHP. Just Intake, headers, cat delete, and 2.5 cat back exhaust and the PROECM Powerchip. Yes, had and have more mods, but you have a fresh motor. I'd give up Mods for a fresh motor any day. :smt023 but that's just going OT here

Yes!, Any brand name exhaust such as Stromung and all of the other big players are going to have is a smoother flow because they use a mandrel bends on the exhaust over a crush bends that most local exhaust make, but I don't think its THAT much of a difference. An exhaust system functions the same exact way the difference is that one has a smoother flow then the other.

I won't ever pay sticker price for a exhaust.

@nwsubie
See if you can find a tunning/performance shop around and talk to them and ask if they know a reputable shop with reasonable prices and if they can refer you to someone. That way you might not get some rude ass MOFO telling you "You have a misfire" when they hear the subaru rumble :wink:

[nwsubie]

Fortunatley for me I've got a great Subaru Performance shop close to me! I just haven't had the time to get in there before they close to talk about the exhaust. Hopefully within the next couple of days.

[kleinkid]

I have had the Stromung mid pipe(has resonator) and muffler on my '00 OBW for seven years now. Would definitely go this route again. If they still offer stainless and steel, get the stainless for sure.

[Reason]

I'll take a custom built exhaust over "store bought" any day (thats with quality parts and an awesome welder doing the work that is).

[ScaryFatKidGT]

What about an ebay 2.5 RS exhaust then just get a shop to make a 6" extender? they should be able to do that lol

[HeresMyMind]

you could just buy the obx catback for an RS, it sounds nice but you'll need to get some hangers moved a little

-B

[ScaryFatKidGT]

Does anyone actually have a glass pack on there ride?

[Huffer]

AJM did...

[4n70n1n0]

i do. its what I use as my resonator. no prob and got rid of most of the rasp. Reason does too IIRC

[03LegacyWgn]

does anyone have links for this prodrive? i myself are looking into an exhaust as well.

[Grafton]

I bet my vibrant is a glass-pack, it is a strait though design

[ScoobySnack]

Seen these on ebay for 2 months now and no one is biting.

49 starting bid and another 50 for shipping. Hopefully no one starts bidding. However, there are more than one for sale :)



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Prodrive ... ccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Prodrive-Exhaust-Muffler-00-03-Subaru-Legacy-Wagon_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2a043475efQQitemZ180459173359QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

[EJ22E]

I'd go with Stromung. Looks OEM but it roars.

Here's video of my exhaust on my 97 Impreza.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t431Z6uh_T4
http://www.youtube.com/user/pandaimprez ... zfWYYqukF8 (http://www.youtube.com/user/pandaimpreza#p/u/8/6zfWYYqukF8)

[nwsubie]

Those are actually the Prodrives I've been watching on Ebay. I've been watching for a couple of months and they keep selling for $100 shipped for a brand new Prodrive axle back!! I finally pulled the trigger! I hope it's direct fit. It says it fits 00-03 wagon, but we'll see...

[Huffer]

Wow... what a deal!

[03LegacyWgn]

hmm must of missed that listing for the wagon axle back, only can find sedan

[httrdd]

I'd go with Stromung. Looks OEM but it roars.

Here's video of my exhaust on my 97 Impreza.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t431Z6uh_T4
http://www.youtube.com/user/pandaimprez ... zfWYYqukF8 (http://www.youtube.com/user/pandaimpreza#p/u/8/6zfWYYqukF8)

That sounds really good with the headders! Hopefully with the uel headders mine sounds that good. :cool:

[nwsubie]

Well UPS just showed up and I was like a 5yr old on christmas! This thing is sweet!! I'll take some picks and post later. If any of you BH or even BE (they have em for you too) owners are thinking of getting or have seen these Prodrives on ebay through Cosworth America, dont second guess contact them they still have a few left. You definately cant beat the price. I got mine for 50 + 50 shipping= $100!! :twisted:

[Huffer]

Pics or ban! :lol:

[ScaryFatKidGT]

any for a BD Sedan? lol

[nwsubie]

Pics or ban! :lol:
settle down Huffer! :lol: I have to get some longer hangers tomorrow. I also picked up a used Borla header today from a local member, so I'll get pics posted tomorrow when everything is complete!!

[nwsubie]

Ok, I've got my exhaust and Borla header installed today. It sounds awesome and has a nice low rumble! Definately has nice throttle response and better performance!!

has a nice long tip to make it out past the bumper
http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac71/nwsubie/DSC00309.jpg
http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac71/nwsubie/DSC00311.jpg
my dog loves it!
http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac71/nwsubie/DSC00313.jpg
http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac71/nwsubie/DSC00316.jpg
i think suspension is next...
http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac71/nwsubie/DSC00318-1.jpg
:smt029 :smt023 :smt030

[kinkbmx4407]

anyone have the link for this for an 04? cant seem to find it.

[nwsubie]

anyone have the link for this for an 04? cant seem to find it.
I believe it's the same, since the USDM didn't change until 05.

[kinkbmx4407]

i cant tell where to see if he still has any for sale from that link

[Matty2Hotty]

All sold, I'm wanting a be sedan one now, maybe sell my borla and hopefully find one or just get oem asap.

[kinkbmx4407]

how much you selling the borla for?

[Matty2Hotty]

250, if people want pics you got to text me or email.

[Matty2Hotty]

Found the last prodrive sedan for 01 lgt, 200shipped just ordered! Chad am gonna have to hear your setup with my borla header, you running stock cats?

[nwsubie]

Found the last prodrive sedan for 01 lgt, 200shipped just ordered! Chad am gonna have to hear your setup with my borla header, you running stock cats?
Yup, I'm running stock cats and mid-pipe. Also, I took a video clip of my setup but it turned out horrible! I'll try again tomorrow...

[Matty2Hotty]

Nice, I was stock cats too. For anyone looking for a sedan prodrive new sedan be, guy has 1 on legacygt forum for sale pretty cheap too.

[Matty2Hotty]

Got my prodrive installed today! Wow! You can rev it up and hear it growl, but you can't hear it at all driving, really do like it! Now for a new set of borla header, ughhh dang it, why the heck did I sell mine! Chad, you wanna sell me them back??? Hahaha

[nwsubie]

Got my prodrive installed today! Wow! You can rev it up and hear it growl, but you can't hear it at all driving, really do like it! Now for a new set of borla header, ughhh dang it, why the heck did I sell mine! Chad, you wanna sell me them back??? Hahaha
Isn't it SWEEET?!! I love mine. Prodrive makes great stuff and there is NO chance of me selling the Borla header!! Sorry Matt

You got any pics of the new exhaust?

[Matty2Hotty]

I will get some later after I get my black 04 wrx seats in my car! They are sooo comfurtable!! I used 2 autozone rubber hangers about inch longer then oem $3 makes it sit perfect off the bumper. You probably hear your exhaust more with the header, I know it made my exhaust tiny bit louder and no worry, I ordered a new set like 10min ago. Kind of worried on my engine though.... Ticking pretty loud and dripping oil bout 5 or 6 drops every night with me already spending alot on the water pump, pullies, cam seals, alternator and belts, ughhhhh! I'm at 147k and prievous owner didn't do crap it seams like on taking care of her, sad! Anyone with a 01 2.5l engine pretty cheap let me know...

[Loozen_it]

Ok, I've got my exhaust and Borla header installed today. It sounds awesome and has a nice low rumble! Definately has nice throttle response and better performance!!

has a nice long tip to make it out past the bumper
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/
my dog loves it!
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/
i think suspension is next...
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/
:smt029 :smt023 :smt030

Any videos? Sound samples of the Prodrive?

[nwsubie]

Sorry for the long delay Loozen_it, I don't any sound clips.

[Black Sunshine]

Why doesn't the 3rd gen cars have the exhaust notch in the bumper?

Here's my cheap straight thru and the notch wraps it nice. It almost looks like it was made to be there.

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l426/Black_Sunshine_81/StainlessExhaust.jpg

[prodriver1]

so i have a WRX stage 2 header,custom 2.5" piping, no cats, and a stock WRX muffler. it sounds amazing @ idle but then starts to get really raspy with any sort of throttle. (think subaru sound coming through a snare drum and your pretty close) i want an "R32ish VR6" sort of deep rumble mixed with the "thud thud thud" if the subaru. I'm thinking of getting a glasspack or resonator and a remmus muffler meant for a VW R32. or maybe a STi muffler... what do you think?

[nwsubie]

so i have a WRX stage 2 header,custom 2.5" piping, no cats, and a stock WRX muffler. it sounds amazing @ idle but then starts to get really raspy with any sort of throttle. (think subaru sound coming through a snare drum and your pretty close) i want an "R32ish VR6" sort of deep rumble mixed with the "thud thud thud" if the subaru. I'm thinking of getting a glasspack or resonator and a remmus muffler meant for a VW R32. or maybe a STi muffler... what do you think?

I would do a Borla or Magnaflow muffler over a Remus and a resonator or glasspack should take alot of that rasp out. :smt023

[prodriver1]

thanks for the advice, I think I'll go with that. but first I need to get a new header:( it cracked :smt022

[gtwagon941]

Is there actually a difference betweent the wagon and sedan versions of these exhausts? Matty2Hotty...any pics of this on and off your car so we could compare it to nwsubie's?

thanks!

[nwsubie]

Is there actually a difference betweent the wagon and sedan versions of these exhausts? Matty2Hotty...any pics of this on and off your car so we could compare it to nwsubie's?

thanks!

I believe the only difference is in the tip length!

[Matty2Hotty]

Thanks! Yeah the only diff is tip length. Sedan is like 7" and wagon is like 9" either way it's like 3 or 4" difference

[gtwagon941]

Thanks guys. Are they the same part number?

[nwsubie]

Thanks guys. Are they the same part number?

No, they aren't the same part #. Do a search over on Legacygt.com, there was a guy that had a couple for sale, one for a sedan and another for a wagon. Not sure if they are still available though.