Tribeca FSB: Fits great on a BG/BK/BD

[anothernord]

I know that the swaybar FAQ here mentions that the Tribeca front swaybar will fit our Legacies, but I figured that I would confirm that it does indeed fit! As far as driving impressions on a car with a stock suspension, it almost eliminates body roll in hard corners, and the car responds to steering inputs more quickly.

Notes on the install:

-The bar bolts to the OUTSIDE of the endlinks.
-You can use your stock swaybar bushings BUT you have to drill or dremel them out to fit the ~1" bar.
-The OEM Tribeca bushings need to be cut down with a hacksaw to fit the stock swaybar brackets (I chose this route).
-If you have stock headers, you must unbolt them from the engine so the bar can be slid in.
-If the swaybar rubs your headers, you can double-sandwitch gaskets on the heads to push the exhaust header down for more clearance.

This bar theoretically will fit any N/A Subaru.


The bushing was delt with, don't worry.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/12/IMG_1986-1.jpg

i just got me one a these... hows it handle? :-D

[anothernord]

i just got me one a these... hows it handle? :-D

Like it should have from the factory. :grin: I need new struts however.

[Zac]

Damn you, I wanted to save my money but now I guess i'm getting this ;P

[ouch1011]

Where did you get it from? No Tribecas in the junk yards here.

[anothernord]

Where did you get it from? No Tribecas in the junk yards here.

Straight from Subaru. Its only like $50 from a dealer, plus $15 for the bushings, if you want those.

[mike-tracy]

Any idea if it'll fit a turbo legacy (1991 SS) with stock exhaust?

[d1giPhux]

damn.. $50 bux.. seriously? You must have one awesome dealership.. because i KNOW the one near me would charge at least 3x that! thats awesome..

[Huffer]

anothernord... start a GB. ;)

Moar pics though... show header clearance!

[d1giPhux]

seriously.. if you can get these for $50 bux.. that would be an awesome deal for people on here no doubt. whats the part number?

[Huffer]

I'm thinking it's this:
http://www.subarupartsforyou.com/cp_par ... rtid=13144 (http://www.subarupartsforyou.com/cp_partdetail.php?partid=13144)

[anothernord]

^^ That's correct. The swaybar part # is 20401XA00A. The bushings are part # 20414XA00A.


Any idea if it'll fit a turbo legacy (1991 SS) with stock exhaust?

This is a N/A-only swaybar; it will not fit very well on a turbo crossmember.

Pictures will have to wait until the weekend, since I don't have my camera at school. However, my particular headers do rub on the swaybar, but that is a function of the headers being misaligned with the rest of the exhaust, because the also rub on my oil pan.

For most people, or those with stock headers, the bar will clear just fine, and if it doesn't, just double stack gaskets to help the headers clear. My setup is a poor representation of how well the Tribeca bar fits, because I know a lot of people that have run this bar on stock headers with no issues. There's a big thread on Nabisco about this.

As for the GB; shipping for the bar is almost $30 from various online parts sources, but if you get it from your local dealer, one could save a lot of money by avoiding shipping.

On last thing; the Tribeca bushings keep sliding out of the clamp, like the picture shows. I keep putting them back in, but the problem is that the stock bushings have a little bump in the middle that sits inside the metal clamp to stop the bushing from sliding around. The Tribeca bushings lack this detail entirely. I am planning on getting some additional stock bushings, then cutting them out to accommodate the larger bar.

[Huffer]

Hmm... I know there were some GC guys that had issues with the Tribeca FSB... but if you're not having any problems, and you run the same chassis as me...

I am buying a shedload of parts from subarupartsforyou.com in the next couple of days...

[rougeben83]

^^ That's correct. The swaybar part # is 20401XA00A. The bushings are part # 20414XA00A.


Any idea if it'll fit a turbo legacy (1991 SS) with stock exhaust?

This is a N/A-only swaybar; it will not fit very well on a turbo crossmember.

Pictures will have to wait until the weekend, since I don't have my camera at school. However, my particular headers do rub on the swaybar, but that is a function of the headers being misaligned with the rest of the exhaust, because the also rub on my oil pan.

For most people, or those with stock headers, the bar will clear just fine, and if it doesn't, just double stack gaskets to help the headers clear. My setup is a poor representation of how well the Tribeca bar fits, because I know a lot of people that have run this bar on stock headers with no issues. There's a big thread on Nabisco about this.

As for the GB; shipping for the bar is almost $30 from various online parts sources, but if you get it from your local dealer, one could save a lot of money by avoiding shipping.

On last thing; the Tribeca bushings keep sliding out of the clamp, like the picture shows. I keep putting them back in, but the problem is that the stock bushings have a little bump in the middle that sits inside the metal clamp to stop the bushing from sliding around. The Tribeca bushings lack this detail entirely. I am planning on getting some additional stock bushings, then cutting them out to accommodate the larger bar.

Ghetto fix would be to use a couple of hose clamps on each side of the bushing to keep it from sliding around :razz:

This bar is pretty cheap even when from the dealer (like $60-70 at most), good buy as long as its not on backorder (I think a couple of months ago it was).

[anothernord]

Another thing to look at woild be getting the tribeca bushing clamps too. I have also heard of people using STi rear endlinks in the front, since the are metal and are less likley to break with the new bar.

[Huffer]

Shopping list check: Tribeca FSB, stock bushings drilled to fit larger bar, new endlinks?

How much of an increase in bar diameter are we talking? a stock GT or Outback should be around 21mm FSB right?

[rougeben83]

Shopping list check: Tribeca FSB, stock bushings drilled to fit larger bar, new endlinks?

How much of an increase in bar diameter are we talking? a stock GT or Outback should be around 21mm FSB right?

It's technically 25mm, but the effective diameter is more like a 23mm bar according to the nasioc suspension gurus...

[jamal]

your swaybar is upside-down and should go under the tie rods. The way you have it the bar can hit the tie rod in some circumstances.

[anothernord]

your swaybar is upside-down and should go under the tie rods. The way you have it the bar can hit the tie rod in some circumstances.

That's the way it was designed to fit, as far as I know. All the install threads I have come across have the bar put in like this. I don't think it would work in any other orientation.

[Huffer]

I just ordered one. Should be here by the weekend.

[rougeben83]

your swaybar is upside-down and should go under the tie rods. The way you have it the bar can hit the tie rod in some circumstances.

That's the way it was designed to fit, as far as I know. All the install threads I have come across have the bar put in like this. I don't think it would work in any other orientation.

it wouldn't, you have it in the right orientation.

[Huffer]

Damn. This bar is HUGE!
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/01/SubaruTribecaFrontSwayBar-1.jpg

[Patrick Olsen]

I don't understand the desire for an oversized FSB. These cars are prone to understeer from the factory; adding a much bigger FSB is just going to highlight that. Sure, turn-in may feel better, but steady state handling will suffer unless you have an accompanying oversized rear bar.

[anothernord]

I don't understand the desire for an oversized FSB. These cars are prone to understeer from the factory; adding a much bigger FSB is just going to highlight that. Sure, turn-in may feel better, but steady state handling will suffer unless you have an accompanying oversized rear bar.

You are correct, and I am planning on getting a larger rear bar as well. However, right now, my car is a simple daily driver, and I enjoy the aspects of the large front bar for everyday driving.

[Airgne]

if it is a 1 in bar that mean it is a 25mm swaybar. that is the biggest one they make stock of aftermarket that will fit legacies.

[hallowpoint]

I don't understand the desire for an oversized FSB. These cars are prone to understeer from the factory; adding a much bigger FSB is just going to highlight that. Sure, turn-in may feel better, but steady state handling will suffer unless you have an accompanying oversized rear bar.


thats exactly what i was thinking. especially if you dont even have an upgraded rsb.

[Huffer]

^^ for sure. But I have a 22mm RSB. :D

[rougeben83]

The main reason for the bigger FSB, as many autoxer's have found, is that it basically braces the front wheels and keeps them from going into positive camber on hard cornering, so it actually maintains the contact patch better, meaning you tend to have less understeer. Granted if youre on a track day or running on a high speed course, you'd want less front swaybar and opt for a more neutral handling car.

If the front suspension wasn't a MacPherson strut, which has a non-ideal camber curve, then you wouldn't have to run such a large front bar in the first place...it's basically picking the lesser of two evils (positive camber vs. losing articulation/suspension travel)

[jey]

Or you can just dial in more negative camber.

[rougeben83]

what's stopping you from doing both? The big front bar is mostly done for an autox setup anyway, that's all I'm saying why this became a very popular mod for subaru enthusiasts.

Anyone and everyone should know that you don't setup a car for autox the same way you would for a real race track. They're on completely opposite ends of the spectrum in some ways.

-The OEM Tribeca bushings need to be cut down with a hacksaw to fit the stock swaybar brackets (I chose this route).


what parts of these needs to be cut? i have the bushings but i'm waiting for the bar so i cant go look

[anothernord]

-The OEM Tribeca bushings need to be cut down with a hacksaw to fit the stock swaybar brackets (I chose this route).


what parts of these needs to be cut? i have the bushings but i'm waiting for the bar so i cant go look

The edges have a big lip on them that has to be cut off. If I were to do this again, I would just cut a larger hole in the stock bushings because my Tribeca bushings keep sliding out of their mounts.

[aurelius]

I'm impressed. How about a Tribeca RSB?