Turbo kit! will it work

[legacy22]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4-TU ... 541wt_1165 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4-TURBO-KITS-Subaru-Impreza-WRX-STI-GDF-ALL-YEAR_W0QQitemZ270529208977QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3efccc2291#ht_3541wt_1165)

Will this work it says for all subarus 1.6 to 2.3 what damage will it do if i run it at 5 psi with a stock motor.

[StatGSR]

you do realize that's far from a "bolt on" kit and made up of mostly garbage right?

[legacy22]

just looking to cheaply turbo my car without swapping the engine. what would result from a kit like this?

[StatGSR]

well that kit is horribly universal. it doesnt give you a lot of parts that you will need to make it work on a suby. such as an up pipe/down pipe.

granted you can get lucky with the ebay turbos but i have had friends that would only last days before dieing.

the rest is just a random cluster of cheap bov, intercooler and wastegate that would without a doubt be shit.

only thing that might be worth anything would be the intercooler piping and connectors.

did you notice how that turbo kit is listed to fit just about any car known to man? thats because it doesnt actually fit any of them....


you would be so much better off building your own. Learn whats makes up good turbo components and how to put them together.

the only decent subaru turbo kits out there will cost you $3000. so if your not going to pay that build it yourself. since a nice home brew turbo set up should cost you under $1000 pretty easily.

if your on mnsubaru, there are plenty of people on there always selling stuff and or willing to give a hand. several guys have diy boosted subarus on that forum aswell.

[legacy22]

I have a buddy that has boosted several older ej22 maybe ill just talk to him about it. He probably has a lot of stuff laying around as he had just bought a stock ej22 turbo motor so im sure hell have an extra turbo laying around plus pipes, etc.

[ouch1011]

You would be better off buying a used stock turbo setup from a WRX because 1) it will fit, and 2) it'll probably be more reliable USED than that e-bay garbage would be new. e-bay turbos are almost universally junk. A TD04 from a WRX would be able to run 5-6psi on an EJ22 easily and be a TON more responsive than a T3/T4 hybrid.

Plus, don't forget the other stuff, like injectors, fuel pump, exhaust, engine management, turbo crossmember, etc. There is no "cheap" way to turbo a non-turbo car, even on something as simple as a Subaru.

[ScaryFatKidGT]

you would be so much better off building your own. Learn whats makes up good turbo components and how to put them together.

the only decent subaru turbo kits out there will cost you $3000. so if your not going to pay that build it yourself. since a nice home brew turbo set up should cost you under $1000 pretty easily.

if your on mnsubaru, there are plenty of people on there always selling stuff and or willing to give a hand. several guys have diy boosted subarus on that forum aswell.WRX TD04, TMIC, BPV, header, uppipe, downpipe, turbo inlet... what elce would be needed? stock ecu will take 6 psi right?

[B's Legacy Wagon]

That totaly might be a great idea getting a used WRX turbo set up. think of how many guys upgrade there turbos bigger there got to be a alot of stock turbos to look into. plus i would sugest to read the NON-turbo threads for people who have done what your trying to do. It sounds like there is alot involved inside the engine to be prepaired for. also a thought sounds like some people have ran into these problems and instead do the turbo engine swap? might be an idea to look into.
Do you have any local tune shops that you could go into and ask them there oppinion? I am lucky that i have rallitek and another subaru tuner shop in the same town as me.

[B's Legacy Wagon]

just scanning threw the view new posts and there was anther member in the classifieds selling a turbo not sure if it will work for your application but thought i would post a link for you to check out viewtopic.php?f=22&t=16336 (http://www.sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=16336)

[lord flashheart]

turbokits.com has some turbo kits clam that they will give you a 56% power increase.
but i HIGHLY recommend Squires turbo systems (STS) rear mounted turbos. they are based here in utah and they are awesome..AWESOME! i put one on my toyota pickup and i went form 95hp to 190hp and my buddy put one on his tocoma v6 and after he got it tuned, it made 430 whp! dyno tested!

[mike-tracy]

turbokits.com has some turbo kits clam that they will give you a 56% power increase.
but i HIGHLY recommend Squires turbo systems (STS) rear mounted turbos. they are based here in utah and they are awesome..AWESOME! i put one on my toyota pickup and i went form 95hp to 190hp and my buddy put one on his tocoma v6 and after he got it tuned, it made 430 whp! dyno tested!

I've seen pictures of what you're talking about. How much was it all said and done for your pickup?

[lord flashheart]

[quote="lord flashheart":3l74ghyn]turbokits.com has some turbo kits clam that they will give you a 56% power increase.
but i HIGHLY recommend Squires turbo systems (STS) rear mounted turbos. they are based here in utah and they are awesome..AWESOME! i put one on my toyota pickup and i went form 95hp to 190hp and my buddy put one on his tocoma v6 and after he got it tuned, it made 430 whp! dyno tested!

I've seen pictures of what you're talking about. How much was it all said and done for your pickup?[/quote:3l74ghyn]

i spent like $1600 and then like $100 on miscellaneous piping and stuff. and then i had a buddy tinker with it and kinda tune it alittle.

[jey]

WRX TD04, TMIC, BPV, header, uppipe, downpipe, turbo inlet... what elce would be needed? stock ecu will take 6 psi right?

You will need more fuel delivery and something to pull timing.

[legacy22]

WRX TD04, TMIC, BPV, header, uppipe, downpipe, turbo inlet... what elce would be needed? stock ecu will take 6 psi right?

You will need more fuel delivery and something to pull timing.

Curious as to what you mean by pull timing?

[StatGSR]

he is talking about an engine management device.....

[green97gt]

pull timing means back off(retard) the timing....say from 5 degrees BTDC to 10 degrees BTDC

boost applications require more fuel delivery and retarded timing.

not exactly a bolt on the turbo and go kind of thing.

[StatGSR]

^ not necessary, but recommended for engine longevity. again i have a friend that has been making 200whp on a 2.2 with nothing more than a rising rate fpr for the last 3 years...

[lord flashheart]

When I did my truck it was making 190 and all I did was back off the timing. I didn't do anything with fuel devivery and it was a 2.4L Of corse I only had maybe 9 pounds of boost. Anything more and I would get bigger injectors.

[ScaryFatKidGT]

You will need more fuel delivery and something to pull timing.
So WRX TD04, TMIC, BPV, header, uppipe, downpipe, turbo inlet, walbro 255 and a piggyback EM? would larger injectors or rails be needed?

[jey]

Depends how much boost you're running. My stock EJ25 NA injectors seem to keep up fine @ 6psi.

[lord flashheart]

Depends how much boost you're running. My stock EJ25 NA injectors seem to keep up fine @ 6psi.
well thats because everything u do seems to work out just fine and dandy but when anyone else trys it. they end up covered in
poop with a broken car.

[impreza_GC8]

^ Interesting statement. Jey has been through this with two different cars and has done a lot of research. Contrary to him, I am running 440cc injectors and have more fuel than I know what to do with. I run 11psi and although my car makes more power, his gets much better mileage.

[lord flashheart]

yeah i was just making the point that he seems to be pretty good with cars.
but i can tell you know your way around an engine as well.

[jey]

Right I would recommend getting a wideband on ANY turbo setup that you're building, There are just too many factors - that's why I said it depends.

[FlatBlack]

If the OP doesn't even know what retarding timing means, and he's considering a $600 ebay turbo kit, maybe he shouldn't be attempting it at this point in time?

Not saying you can't do it, but IMO you should go back and read up what is involved in a swap like this. Especially since you are considering using N/A pistons.

I'm running 8 psi on a high comp N/A block in my Zed, but my timing is really really conservative using a stand alone ECU. You should go read on Nasioc and RS25 about some turbo swaps before you buy anything for your car.