Foglight Help

[Subieee]

Whats up everyone
I have a 97 Outback Wagon and i want to be able to just turn my foglights on without having to turn my headlights fully on
I want to make it so i can cruise around with just fogs...how can i do this
Pictures would help :)
Thanks
-Matt

[nomad666666]

Start with this viewtopic.php?f=39&t=13570 (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=13570)

Just the fogs on might be illegal?

it is illegal in all states to have fogs on without lowbeams..

but its more of law in the books than one that is highly enforced

[02_Legacy]

LOL is funny that you posted this cause I was just reading this on legacyGT.com (http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/foglight-drl-mod-make-your-fogs-work-drls-42877.html) I'm not sure this would work on our cars, but you can take a look at it.

[ben g]

You just cut and splice and hook it to a switch its on just about every Honda out there, have fun!

[ouch1011]

it is illegal in all states to have fogs on without lowbeams..

but its more of law in the books than one that is highly enforced

I'm not sure that is entirely true...at least not in the US. Most domestic cars with foglights allow you to turn on the fog lights with only the park lights on. Some even use the fog lights as daytime running lights, so they are on all the time. Its mainly Japanese cars that don't allow the foglights to be on without the headlights.

[02_Legacy]

it is illegal in all states to have fogs on without lowbeams..

but its more of law in the books than one that is highly enforced

I'm not sure that is entirely true...at least not in the US. Most domestic cars with foglights allow you to turn on the fog lights with only the park lights on. Some even use the fog lights as daytime running lights, so they are on all the time. Its mainly Japanese cars that don't allow the foglights to be on without the headlights.

This was posted in the thread on LGT.com, they said it was federal regulation:

"S5.5.11(a) Any pair of lamps on the front of a passenger car,
multipurpose passenger vehicle, truck, or bus, whether or not required
by this standard, other than parking lamps or fog lamps, may be wired to
be automatically activated, as determined by the manufacturer of the
vehicle, in a steady burning state as daytime running lamps (DRLs)......"

[nomad666666]

Here lies the catch NHTSA changed the laws :smt019

"S5.5.11(a) Any pair of lamps on the front of a passenger car,
multipurpose passenger vehicle, truck, or bus, whether or not required
by this standard, other than parking lamps or fog lamps, may be wired to
be automatically activated, as determined by the manufacturer of the
vehicle, in a steady burning state as daytime running lamps (DRLs)......"[/quote]



The new law can befound here http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulati ... 34800bb9ed (http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?chunkKey=09016334800bb9ed)

This is long but you get the point

ii) An upper beam headlamp intended to operate as a DRL, whose luminous intensity at test point H-V is not more than 7,000 candela, and which is mounted not higher than 864 mm above the road surface as measured from the center of the lamp with the vehicle at curb weight;

(2) Is permanently marked “DRL” on its lens in letters not less than 3 mm high, unless it is optically combined with a headlamp; :smt018

(3) Is designed to provide the same color as the other lamp in the pair, and that is one of the following colors as defined in SAE Standard J578 MAY88: White, white to yellow, white to selective yellow, selective yellow, or yellow;

(4) If not optically combined with a turn signal lamp, is located so that the distance from its lighted edge to the optical center of the nearest turn signal lamp is not less than 100 mm, unless:

(i) The luminous intensity of the DRL is not more than 2,600 candela at any location in the beam and the turn signal meets the requirements of S5.3.1.7; or

(ii) (For a passenger car, multipurpose passenger vehicle, truck, or bus that is manufactured before October 1, 1995, and which uses an upper beam headlamp as a DRL as specified in paragraph S5.5.11(a)(1)(ii)) the luminous intensity of the DRL is greater than 2,600 candela at any location in the beam and the turn signal lamp meets the requirements of S5.3.1.7; or

(iii) The DRL is optically combined with a lower beam headlamp and the turn signal lamp meets the requirements of S5.3.1.7; or

(iv) The DRL is deactivated when the turn signal or hazard warning signal lamp is activated.

(5) If optically combined with a turn signal lamp, is automatically deactivated as a DRL when the turn signal lamp or hazard warning lamp is activated, and automatically reactivated as a DRL when the turn signal lamp or hazard warning lamp is deactivated.

(b) Any pair of lamps that are not required by this standard and are not optically combined with any lamps that are required by this standard, and which are used as DRLs to fulfill the specifications of S5.5.11(a), shall be mounted at the same height, which shall be not more than 1.067 m above the road surface measured from the center of the lamp on the vehicle at curb weight, and shall be symmetrically disposed about the vertical centerline of the vehicle.

[nomad666666]

Here is another good one for you

http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/m ... ights.html (http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forums/misc-technical-discussion/74642-post-your-states-laws-regarding-covering-auxiliary-driving-lights.html)