View Full Version : JDM B4 RSK HID housing, bulbs, ballast & wiring -> 00 BE/BH
chuckthefuk
07-18-2010, 09:18 PM
Hello SLi,
My friend just ordered B4 RSK HID Headlights. YamazakiSubaru will confirm if all the variations have the same connector / wire colors by the end of this adventure hopefully.
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/4826/419970ejd0umjd.jpg
Before I begin You MUST disconnect your DRL (Day Time Running Lights)
---> https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?t=4527
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/12/whiteplug-1.jpg
The end result will have the low-beams on when the hi-beams are in use. Instead of cycling the hi/low like the USDM cars do. You will still have your fog lights turn off when the hi-beams are in use just like the USDM cars.
These lights are pretty straight forward as long as you got all the bulbs or at least there sockets. The City Light and Turn signal are plug and play, just disconnect the harness from your USDM lights and plug it in.
JDM Connectors:
The HID low beam and H1 high beam have 4 wires coming out of them. Its pretty easy to trace the wires back to the lamps themselves and determine which is + / -.
There are 3 thick wires and 1 thin wire.
Two of the thick wires are Red/Blue and the other thick wire is BLACK.
The thin wire is green or yellow or something.
The two Red/Blue thick wires are your + triggers for the high / low. The thick Black wire is the - ground for the HID ballast. The thin wire is the - ground for high beam.
+ | + Hi | Low
- | - Hi ground | Low ground
That being said with some simple taps from the battery terminals you can test your HID / High beam within seconds.
USDM Connectors
I'v tested the stock 00' BE head light connector(s) and it seems that from Left-to-Right
+ | - | +
Hi | Ground | Low
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The Install:
0) Remove your stock lights by removing the 3x 10mm bolts (1 on the top, 2 on the side) Disconnect the turn signal, city lights, and the hi/low beam connector.
1) You have to trim a bit of metal behind the headlight where the rad support is. 1 area under the head light to clear the ballast and a small area to clear the turn signal. Once trimmed, sand quickly, mask, prime, sand quickly, paint, clear.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1008/dsc00602m.jpg
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8051/dsc00600g.jpg
This is the section you must remove.
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6457/dsc00604sg.jpg
After the cuts
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7799/dsc00605b.jpg
Primed
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/2831/dsc00607b.jpg
Painted then Cleared
2) The Driver side low-beam wire is much thicker then the Passenger side low-beam wire. You will have to upgrade the Passenger side wire with a fuse directly from the battery or use a relay with a thicker wire with fuse..
3) Cut your stock hi/low beam connectors off. An inch back from the connector should be fine.
4) Twist the two thick + wires on your JDM connectors together. This will simplify the wiring 4wire->3wire :wink:
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4778/dsc00609i.jpg
5) Connect the wires up and solder/shrink wrap
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/3575/dsc00610b.jpg
6) Plug in your Turn signal / city light connector into the JDM sockets.
7) Connect the JDM hi/low connector
8) Install the headlight with 3x 10mm bolts.
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/7348/dsc00611.jpg
Done. sort of..
Aftermath
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7919/dsc00613v.jpg
The Gap Yamazaki was talking about
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I am got the diagram for the leveler switch from Yamazaki
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8638/schematics.jpg
LHD -----------> http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6651/1e7e8aea.jpg
RHD -----------> http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4859/62a0b70d.jpg
Leveler Switch -> http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5590/sc018cee3a.jpg
Heres a simplified version of the leveler switch diagram.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8318/wiring.jpg
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/7835/dsc00840custom.th.jpg (http://img808.imageshack.us/i/dsc00840custom.jpg/) - http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2687/dsc00843custom.th.jpg (http://img441.imageshack.us/i/dsc00843custom.jpg/) - http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/135/dsc00842custom.th.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/i/dsc00842custom.jpg/)
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/1881/dsc00844custom.th.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/dsc00844custom.jpg/) - http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/2263/dsc00838custom.th.jpg (http://img543.imageshack.us/i/dsc00838custom.jpg/) - http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/3078/dsc00845custom.th.jpg (http://img808.imageshack.us/i/dsc00845custom.jpg/)
-Chuck
Yamazaki
07-18-2010, 10:51 PM
His are RSK or GT-B E-tune II. The S401 is chrome and the Blitzens are silver.
S401:
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/th_dsgjb472-img600x450-1276416616mqkou.jpg (http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/dsgjb472-img600x450-1276416616mqkou.jpg) http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/th_dsgjb472-img600x450-1276416616jauwc.jpg (http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/dsgjb472-img600x450-1276416616jauwc.jpg)
Blitzen:
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/th_dsgjb472-img600x450-1276164528mad1c.jpg (http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/dsgjb472-img600x450-1276164528mad1c.jpg) http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/th_dsgjb472-img600x450-12761645280trkq.jpg (http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/dsgjb472-img600x450-12761645280trkq.jpg)
All HIDs have leveling switches. However, there's a fitment problem. Take a look at these differences between D model and A-C model stuff:
D model headlights are shorter so they don't fit on the bumpers (The D model light here is from a GT-B E-tune II:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/th_DSCF2903-1.jpg (http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/DSCF2903.jpg) https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/th_DSCF2905-1.jpg (http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/DSCF2905.jpg) https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/th_DSCF2904-1.jpg (http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/DSCF2904.jpg)
The bumpers have different measurements to accommodate the different measurements of the lights (D model on the left):
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/th_DSCF2898-1.jpg (http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/DSCF2898.jpg) https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/th_DSCF2899-1.jpg (http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/DSCF2899.jpg) https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/th_DSCF2900-1.jpg (http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/DSCF2900.jpg) https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/th_DSCF2901-1.jpg (http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/DSCF2901.jpg) https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/th_DSCF2902-1.jpg (http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/DSCF2902.jpg)
So to make those lights not look ghetto, they'll need a new bumper, which will need the D model grille, which can only fit on a D model hood (notice the differences near the lights. D model on the left again):
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/th_91633d15.jpg (http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/91633d15.jpg) https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/th_600x450k_partscenter2_863095p01_0_-1.jpg (http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/yamazakisubaru/car%20parts%20accessories/600x450-k_partscenter2_863095p01_0_.jpg)
So tell him to have fun with all of those fitment issues. The lights are the whole reason behind me getting a new hood, bumper, grille for my project.
chuckthefuk
07-19-2010, 11:08 AM
0) Sweet so he ordered the RSK lights.
1) He paid $250 with shipping.
2) I am the one who has to install the lights.
3) There is no fitment issues with the grille/hood. I trimmed the metal behind the light and it slides in with no issues and no gaps.
4) Head lights mounted with no issues just a small gap between the headlight and the bumper. But compared to the stock its only 1cm bigger which is not a concern.
This is the only issue as you pointed out his bumper is a bit short but again not a big deal.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/07/th_DSCF2899-1.jpg
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/1269/dsc00594g.jpg
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/866/dsc00596n.jpg
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/3388/dsc00597j.jpg
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/3397/dsc00595.jpg
Remember hes using a USDM GT bumper w/ USDM non-scooped hood and L7 grille.
AWDSOME
07-19-2010, 10:01 PM
interesting. good to know. i guess with black the gap is not as noticeable
jny03subbie
08-26-2010, 01:04 AM
that's sexy !!!!
chuckthefuk
12-28-2010, 10:26 PM
bump for leveler switch update.. still working on it but got the diagrams
-Chuck
STIdarkside
12-28-2010, 11:06 PM
Knowing that all HID headlights are from the JDM market and therefore RHD (hoping Subaru made HID in Europe for LHD cars, but have never heard of them existing), how well do they work for us with LHD cars? Does the leveler switch help any and is the beam pattern so off that you blind oncoming traffic and don't light up the right hand side of the road (aka the shoulder)?
Thanks
chuckthefuk
12-28-2010, 11:19 PM
It has the same issue as the rest of the RHD lights and everything you described happens with these lights.
I have not yet installed the lever switch for Bataru but I doubt there going to make a big difference. When I figure it out I'll let you know.
-Chuck
legacyB4RSK
12-29-2010, 12:23 PM
Mine are aimed low and never get flashed.
chuckthefuk
12-29-2010, 12:25 PM
have you connected the levelers?
-Chuck
legacyB4RSK
12-29-2010, 12:36 PM
No, I guess I lucked out , when I bought them new, I guess the factory default is set to aim low.
jdragon
01-11-2011, 04:40 PM
Hi guys, my right hand citylight is burned after I hit a hole in the street. I removed the three screws, but could not manage to get the headlight out. Is there something I have to check??
My ride is a BH5 with a Tommy Kaira front bumper!
chuckthefuk
01-11-2011, 06:10 PM
There are guide pins in the back of the light over time tend to seize. Basically you need to wiggle the entire housing left and right and it will slowy start to work its way out.
-Chuck
Bataru
03-13-2011, 09:59 PM
i will try this out as soon as i can
Airgne
03-13-2011, 10:42 PM
just seen this. i never had to cut into my car to get my JDM lights to fit.
chuckthefuk
03-13-2011, 10:47 PM
just seen this. i never had to cut into my car to get my JDM lights to fit.
You don't have OEM HID w/ ballast. The ballast is located at the bottom of the headlight housing. Thats the reason for the bottom futs and the stupid day time running light in the corner is the reason for the side cuts.
Airgne
03-13-2011, 11:45 PM
yes oem hid with ballast. i didnt cut anything, exept the wires when doing the wiring.
chuckthefuk
03-14-2011, 12:06 AM
but you have a completely different housing
Airgne
03-14-2011, 12:21 AM
i have JDM OEM hid with ballast. how is it different?
anothernord
03-14-2011, 12:51 AM
Excellent information here! Those a sexy headlights.
chuckthefuk
03-14-2011, 12:52 AM
D-Model
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8060/rskw.jpg
A-C Model
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/3379/75480364.jpg
Notice where the ballast is located on the D-model lights compared to yours.
A-C Lights are designed to fit the radiator support on A-C models which are somewhat identical to USDM BE. D-Model is very different then the A-C which is why the rad support had to be trimmed to fit the D lights in a USDM BE.
-Chuck
Airgne
03-14-2011, 01:26 AM
i see now. thank you chuck for schooling me again. i love to learn.
chuckthefuk
03-14-2011, 09:39 AM
Anytime Airgne but you can thank Yamazaki for the info..
gtwagon941
03-31-2011, 02:09 PM
D-Model
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/
A-C Model
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/
Notice where the ballast is located on the D-model lights compared to yours.
A-C Lights are designed to fit the radiator support on A-C models which are somewhat identical to USDM BE. D-Model is very different then the A-C which is why the rad support had to be trimmed to fit the D lights in a USDM BE.
-Chuck
So, trying to get this straight...if I were to buy some of the "A-C" version headlights they would fit in my wife's '01 LGT Sedan without any modifications, besides wiring? Would the wiring be the same as the pics/diagrams above? And would I need the switch or will they work with just the standard low/high beam control stalk?
thanks guys! I've been a little out of the subie scene since I now have an Audi, but my wife still has her leggie and is always complaining about the light output. I had JDM projectors in my old 98 LGT wagon, and they were sweet.
Anything to watch out for with picking up a set of these? And as for aiming, I was able to mostly make it work on my old car, same story here?
thanks!
chuckthefuk
03-31-2011, 02:17 PM
I can only speak for the D-model lights.
PM Airgne and he can give you the down'lo on the A-C lights
Aiming is the same as any RHD light.
-chuck
drtylggy
02-13-2012, 08:47 PM
I know this is an old post but just a few questions
1) Where would I buy the kouiko headlights?
2) Would anyone be willing to help if I decide to try it?
chuckthefuk
02-13-2012, 08:53 PM
ebay... and what help would you need.. its pretty straight forward..
ecoflame
07-13-2015, 09:34 PM
Ok I know this is an old post but the pictures of the wiring, are they still floating around some place?
Dead91silvia
07-13-2015, 09:55 PM
Yamazaki and chuckthefuk, seem to have some missing photos or broke links. Mine filling in the holes? Maybe rkrenicki has some updates as well?
Red85Celica this might help with the wiring bit you need to do.
ecoflame
07-13-2015, 10:13 PM
I figured it out, ultimately my problem was the HID bulb wasn't fully connected. Then I just used deductive reasoning and the good ole "F it lets see what happens." Lol. I'm finishing my adapter right now! :grin:
ecoflame
07-13-2015, 10:14 PM
On another note, did y'all ever get the leveler wired up and working?
Red85Celica
07-13-2015, 10:33 PM
Thanks Dead91silvia Good start. I already pestered rkrenicki about wiring. I'm sure I can figure out some of it but pics will help if possible.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/07/d8c408a32354147d481758ad587acd18-1.jpg
Can't use my JDM lights. God damn A-C type.
ecoflame
07-13-2015, 11:05 PM
What are you trying to wire up the Type D HID?
Red85Celica
07-13-2015, 11:06 PM
Yes. Just the OEM HID type D lights.
ecoflame
07-13-2015, 11:22 PM
Which headlights do you have in currently? GT housing or L? And do you have a pic of your JDM pigtails?
Red85Celica
07-13-2015, 11:26 PM
Which headlights do you have in currently? GT housing or L? And do you have a pic of your JDM pigtails?
'02 GT headlights. BH5 type D front end being installed.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/07/4d3089458471be315b363dde814f9261-1.jpg
ecoflame
07-13-2015, 11:33 PM
647I'm actually wiring up and adapter right now so I can swap between the GT's and HID's whenever I need to with out splicing wires again.
ecoflame
07-13-2015, 11:42 PM
@red95celica I figured out the wiring if you need it.
Red85Celica
07-13-2015, 11:52 PM
@red95celica I figured out the wiring if you need it.
If you have time, that's cool. I'd really appreciate it.
ecoflame
07-14-2015, 12:21 AM
OK, on the JDM pigtail you have four wires coming out two are grounds two are the power. The two on the bottom of the harness side connector are the power the two on top are the grounds. Should be
1.) Thick black
2.) thin red or red with a stripe, depending on whether your looking at the right or left
3.)blue with white stripe or red with blue stripe, depending on whether your looking at the right or left
4.)blue with white stripe or red with blue stripe, depending on whether your looking at the right or left
Combine the thin red and thick black together those are the grounds. The bottom left wire (#3) is for the highs the bottom right (#4) is for the low (HID) if your looking at the JDM pigtail with the wires pointing towards you.
The two ground wires go to the center wire from your harness, and the #3 goes to the corresponding color, and #4 goes to remaining wire on your harness.
Hope this helps, if you need me to specify more I'll be happy to.
Red85Celica
07-14-2015, 12:32 AM
Thanks for the info ecoflame
I should be able to get all done this week.
ecoflame
07-14-2015, 02:01 AM
It's no problem Red85Celica .I think I might have mixed #3 and #4 up in the posting. With the pigtail wires pointed towards you #3 is directly below the thick black wire #1, and #4 is below the thin red wire. I'm a little fried from the long day. Sorry.
rkrenicki
07-14-2015, 11:26 AM
OK, on the JDM pigtail you have four wires coming out two are grounds two are the power. The two on the bottom of the harness side connector are the power the two on top are the grounds. Should be
Combine the thin red and thick black together those are the grounds. The bottom left wire (#3) is for the highs the bottom right (#4) is for the low (HID) if your looking at the JDM pigtail with the wires pointing towards you.
The two ground wires go to the center wire from your harness, and the #3 goes to the corresponding color, and #4 goes to remaining wire on your harness.
Just a slight nit-pick here. Subarus use switched grounds and constant hot. The thick Black and thin red wires are positive, and the other two are switched grounds, otherwise that information looks correct to me! I just wanted to clarify if someone was trying to use a meter on those circuits and seeing the polarity reversed.. it might cause someone to hook something up backwards.
ecoflame
07-14-2015, 05:48 PM
Just a slight nit-pick here. Subarus use switched grounds and constant hot. The thick Black and thin red wires are positive, and the other two are switched grounds, otherwise that information looks correct to me! I just wanted to clarify if someone was trying to use a meter on those circuits and seeing the polarity reversed.. it might cause someone to hook something up backwards.
Please nitpick away! I'm by far no expert in this, you're experience with this stuff eclipses mine without doubt. I'd rather you correct my misinformation so I don't misrepresent anything I think I know.
So then I'm guessing by combining the thick black and thin red wires would cause both my high and low beams to come on simultaneously? rkrenicki
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rkrenicki
07-15-2015, 11:03 AM
If you connected both of the blue wires to ground, then yes both sets would be on.
Red85Celica
07-15-2015, 10:58 PM
OK, here I go!
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/07/6b731e7b074cb35a50230eabec807682-1.jpg
Red85Celica
07-16-2015, 03:07 AM
Got impatient with the high beams and it was getting dark. Made a quick harness using the old headlight connector. Light output is very bright. Has PIAA bulbs in it.
So just low beam for now.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/07/3606a8a2763b108f74925637a195a428-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/07/d8105a647764340e14fce151883b8293-1.jpg
Matty2Hotty
02-24-2016, 09:15 PM
Yeah am in need of wiring help for my hids with relay.... I'm lost
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/02/5c464b5e964bf596134f974df985cfdf-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/02/8d4502e2a536df49a54e51b5fda48c3d-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/02/c3b25ecf63e2095e1b3d76cab663dd1c-1.jpg
Matty2Hotty
02-24-2016, 09:20 PM
Got most of the wiring done... Just confused on the red&black wire plug for the relay on each headlight. I'm getting the impression black to ground and red to fuse link to the + off the battery.
Yamazaki
02-25-2016, 07:50 AM
Got most of the wiring done... Just confused on the red&black wire plug for the relay on each headlight. I'm getting the impression black to ground and red to fuse link to the + off the battery.
Not sure if this helps you, but here is what I did: https://sl-i.net/FORUM/showthread.php?19533-rkrenicki-s-02-H6-VDC-quot-Blitzen-6-quot-New-Owner!-1-16-16&p=216562&viewfull=1#post216562
(https://sl-i.net/FORUM/showthread.php?19533-rkrenicki-s-02-H6-VDC-quot-Blitzen-6-quot-New-Owner!-1-16-16&p=216562&viewfull=1#post216562)
ecoflame
02-28-2016, 10:55 PM
Got most of the wiring done... Just confused on the red&black wire plug for the relay on each headlight. I'm getting the impression black to ground and red to fuse link to the + off the battery.
Did you ever get the wires figured out? What gen are you working on?
Matty2Hotty
03-01-2016, 11:26 PM
Well I thought i did... No high beams, high beam light on dash is lite up, and only lows work. Must of crossed or got some wires wrong.
Matty2Hotty
03-09-2016, 06:55 PM
These 3rd gen cebie lights are killing me.... Still can't figure out this stupid wiring, I tried multiple ways with no luck on these. High beam light on dash will stay on low or high, and not getting any high beam, just hid lows.
Think it's these relays on each headlight screwing me up... I went red to power off each one to the battery with inline fuse and the black wire to ground on frame.
Matty2Hotty
03-09-2016, 08:01 PM
Finally found it... High beam is actually a ground on my harness,
so my three prong is -/-/+, high/ground/low. Got everything working correctly now.
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