HID Help

['Buru in the Burgh]

I want to do a full HID 6000k conversion for my headlights (I already did the foglights with 5900k cause I found a good deal on them).

I just need you guys to tell me what exactly I need for the high and low beams. I found a ton of nicely priced kits on eBay but I know nothing about the HIDs. So, 6000k kit with everything I need for highs and lows.

Tell me about them and what I need for my 03 :smile:

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[rougeben83]

You have an L, single bulb/dual filament type. 9007 bulb. I did this before, posted pictures of the light pattern with HID's and the stock headlights...it was marginally better but had serious issues with hotspotting. I think the thread is still in this forum somewhere, just search my name

[Matty2Hotty]

So another question to add since the topic is hott..... For Fogs... Yellow 3400k or just Pure white bulbs?

['Buru in the Burgh]

You have an L, single bulb/dual filament type. 9007 bulb. I did this before, posted pictures of the light pattern with HID's and the stock headlights...it was marginally better but had serious issues with hotspotting. I think the thread is still in this forum somewhere, just search my name

Ok, so:
http://www.ddmtuning.com/product.php?II=102

go with the 9007 Hi/Lo bulb for the bulb type drop down box?

[rougeben83]

yes. Also, 6000k is a little too "blue" on the color scale, you won't see a thing when it rains a decent amount or snow. Go with 4000k-5000k.

['Buru in the Burgh]

Ok ill go down to 5000k. Thanks man!

[TGX4776]

too blue? daylight (white) is 5,500. Mine is great when it rains and I have the DDM 6k's. However when I paint my car yellow I'll probably get 3,400

['Buru in the Burgh]

Damn you guys are confusing me. 5k, 6k...what should I do?!?!

[MINORMidget]

it depends on what you want it to look like, i have 8k at 55w and they are extremely bright, never had a problem with them. if you want to have more of a blue hue then go for 6-8 k depending on the watts. f you want more of a yhellow hue go for 3-5k. look at some piks of what the color spectrum looks like and decide what you like

[TGX4776]

^^^^ agree. however I know in WV if a cop holds a white paper in front of your headlights and it shows blue light it's a ticket.

get 4500k or 5000k.. no need for ghey ass blue tint

['Buru in the Burgh]

call me ghey, but I like that really subtle blue tint

i thought that too, but after buying 6000k, i wish i had bit more visibility

[Matty2Hotty]

i thought that too, but after buying 6000k, i wish i had bit more visibility

+1, go with 4300 or 5000 for headlights

[13fido13]

I've got 8k in my GT and have no problems seeing in the rain or snow. I find I see better because I don't get the blinding reflection back. The light that you see really isn't that blue from the drivers seat.

Do you really see that much more with the 5k or 6k?

Do you really see that much more with the 5k or 6k?


yes, the hotter the bulb, the more light is sacrificed for color

[chuckthefuk]

I agree with Matty. 4300k is a bit to OEM but 5000k is almost spot on with "typical" HID look. Fogs I would go 3000k if you like the JDM look other wise 5000k to match would be a good choice.

Either way the light output is night and day however using the crappy halogen headlight housing is awful for light pattern. Those B4/RSK/S401 housings are much better choices but they usually come with D2x factory HID's.

-Chuck

[rougeben83]

I've got 8k in my GT and have no problems seeing in the rain or snow. I find I see better because I don't get the blinding reflection back. The light that you see really isn't that blue from the drivers seat.

Do you really see that much more with the 5k or 6k?

lets just put it this way. There's a reason every OEM HID setup uses 4200k-5000k.

And like I said before, the L headlight housing, and the subpar design of the 9007 bulb compared to the "european" H-x style bulbs, make for a marginally better light output if used with an HID kit, even though an HID bulb puts out 2-3 times the amount of lumens a halogen does.

[jewbaru]

i have the ddm 55w 6k lights, the 9007 dual hi/low.

they are so bright they leave spots in your eyes. i get flashed all the time and im waiting to get pulled over for them haha..

i recommend the 6k 35watt, not 55w like me, they arent blue like the 8ks, slight tint of blue instead, and with 35 watts, they wouldnt be as bright

stock hid spec i believe is 4300k. thats what i have in my truck, with projectors, and the lights in my subie shit all over them hands down.

[13fido13]

In that case I may consider heading over to pick up a set of 5k or 6k bulbs.

Which would be superior for light the 4.3k or the 6k?

4500k-5000k

[Legacy89]

So another question to add since the topic is hott..... For Fogs... Yellow 3400k or just Pure white bulbs?
3000K, works in bad weather and is more JDM, and is currently a phase where i live. First it was regular HID, then some other fancy colors and now yellow.

[Garrison]

Are you really all recommending that he put an HID kit into a headlight with a halogen reflector?

Excuse me sir, as someone who knows why this is incorrect- I would highly advise that you do this swap the right way and fabricate projectors in the headlight housing before using any HID kit.

Taken from
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthr ... ing+thread (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=664361&highlight=hid+lighting+thread)



3. Can I put HID into my stock halogen reflector lighting assembly?

Yes. But it is strongly recommended that you do not. Although it may not seem so, directing the light produced by a headlight bulb to the right places requires a good deal of precision. Reflector assemblies on cars that come equipped with halogen bulbs are made to direct the light produced by halogen bulbs correctly. Replacing those bulbs with HID bulbs that produce three times the light yields a terrible beam pattern. You will have light going all over the place, most importantly into the eyes of drivers of oncoming vehicles. Even if you can tolerate such a beam pattern, your lights would be a safety hazard on the road. Many people try to solve this problem by lowering their lights. However, to reduce glare to acceptable levels, you would have to lower HID lights in halogen reflectors so much that you would not have much of a usable light increase over your stock setup.

Enlighten yourselves from the master himself: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/home.html

EDIT: Exact link, sorry: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech ... d/HID.html (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/HID.html)

[13fido13]

Upon closer inspection it seems the options for the Ignited kit that I have right now is 4.3k or 6k.

I'm considering 4.3k ATM.

Yea?? Nea??

['Buru in the Burgh]

Just went with the 5k kit, should be here next week

[chuckthefuk]

Upon closer inspection it seems the options for the Ignited kit that I have right now is 4.3k or 6k.

I'm considering 4.3k ATM.

Yea?? Nea??

4.3k is very close to OEM.. good if your not into the fake white/blue look.

-Chuck

Are you really all recommending that he put an HID kit into a headlight with a halogen reflector?

Excuse me sir, as someone who knows why this is incorrect- I would highly advise that you do this swap the right way and fabricate projectors in the headlight housing before using any HID kit.

Taken from
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthr ... ing+thread (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=664361&highlight=hid+lighting+thread)



3. Can I put HID into my stock halogen reflector lighting assembly?

Yes. But it is strongly recommended that you do not. Although it may not seem so, directing the light produced by a headlight bulb to the right places requires a good deal of precision. Reflector assemblies on cars that come equipped with halogen bulbs are made to direct the light produced by halogen bulbs correctly. Replacing those bulbs with HID bulbs that produce three times the light yields a terrible beam pattern. You will have light going all over the place, most importantly into the eyes of drivers of oncoming vehicles. Even if you can tolerate such a beam pattern, your lights would be a safety hazard on the road. Many people try to solve this problem by lowering their lights. However, to reduce glare to acceptable levels, you would have to lower HID lights in halogen reflectors so much that you would not have much of a usable light increase over your stock setup.

Enlighten yourselves from the master himself: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/home.html

EDIT: Exact link, sorry: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech ... d/HID.html (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/HID.html)


this has been mentioned in here, but thanks for the links

[ouch1011]

too blue? daylight (white) is 5,500. Mine is great when it rains and I have the DDM 6k's. However when I paint my car yellow I'll probably get 3,400

4500k HIDs produce more visible light than 6000k HIDs. Anything above 6000k has to be color shifted and is starting to get out of the range of visible light and closer to ultraviolet light, so the visible light goes down substantially. 10k HIDs are darker than stock halogens on most vehicles.

6000k looks blue at night by comparison. Your eyes are more sensitive to bluish lights under low light, so blue stands out a lot more when it is dark. Everything looks more blue under low light.

[jewbaru]

Just went with the 5k kit, should be here next week


great choice man