Can I get in trouble for stealing my car back from a towyard

[stirally8]

I was almost home last nite and ran out of gas. So I pulled off the side of the road folded in my power folding mirrors put a white sweatshirt in the window locked it and walked home. Today I grabbed the gas can went back to drive it home and it was gone. I called the state police and they told me to check the towing company. I call them up and they said the state police had them tow it becuase it was a hazard. Now they want $90 for the towing. It wasn't there for more than a few hours. And like I said it was off the road. I think I'm gonna go past the towing place tonight if it's not parked in I'm takin it back. Can I get in trouble for doing that? There was no signs posted where I parked it and I didn't tell them to tow it. They basically stole it and I may just steal it back.

[httrdd]

Yep the car is basically on their property and you cannot access the car without consent. If you do you will be trespasing and you will be screwed. Most of those places are under survailance(sp?). Not sure why they towed you but pay the money and get it back.

[stirally8]

My problem is I'm broke I don't plan on breaking in or any thing if my car is just sitting there I'm gonna get in it and leave. The place is also a convenient store alot of the time they park stuff in the parking lot so trespassing wouldn't be a big issue and how can I get in trouble for taking my own property. They don't even have my phone # or anything. I didn't ask anyone to tow it I just ran out of gas

[BG5guy]

they will notify the police the car is missing and the police will pull the records, find you address, if the car is parked in your house you can be charged, probably theft, trespassing, not worth it. 90 bucks is better then a huge ass fine and jail time. but thats just my opinion.

[stirally8]

That's where I'm stuck. Can they really file any charges? It should be up to the tow company to secure the car if it is sitting in the parking lot where I can just drive off I wouldn't be breaking any laws they could try to take me to court for the fees other than that. I don't know if they could do anything.

[BG5guy]

they can, once its on the tow truck it belongs to the tow company, its in their possesion and is their property. If you take the car back they can file charges and even tho the car is under your name. Totally sucks i know but thats how tow companies are.

[stirally8]

Screw em' I'm getting f'ed over I'm so pissed I have the title for it and never signed anything for them they stole my property I'll just say I found it parked there and took it home

[phi11]

Really?

[BG5guy]

techincally if its left on the side of the road it can be claimed abandonded vehicle and then belongs to the state. your lucky they are only chaging 90 dollars fee to get it out, my state charges 450 dollars fee. Just pay the 90 and save yourself the hassle, because you will get caught and busted even tho you make a valid point, you will still get the boot for it. Just saying.

[Dmang]

Yes, the answer is yes. You will get in trouble.

[anothernord]

Let us know how the rebellious swashbuckling adventure ends up.

[phi11]

Usally when I do something illegal,
I make sure to document it on a public forum.

[harrymaneuvers]

Laughing uncontrollably at the last post...

[httrdd]

Lol.

[stirally8]

According to Pennsylvania motor vehicle code an abandoned vehicle is a vehicle left inoperable or unattended for more than 48hrs. I parked it at 3:30 last night and went back for it when I got up today less than 12hrs later. They had no right to tow it like I said it was off the road. I'll take my chances in a court room. I've learned that the police are not always right I beat some charges a few weeks ago because the cop was only allowed to ask me ?s that will help him successfully complete the traffic stop and he was askin about my past weed use. I let everyone know how this turns out. Like I said I'm only taking it if I can get it out. I don't plan on breaking it out or damaging any property.

[stirally8]

Usally when I do something illegal,
I make sure to document it on a public forum.
I'm not tryin to break any laws that's why I posted I don't think it's illegal to take my car. They are the ones Breaking the law

[Wiscon_Mark]

You should go to court about it. They'll probably release it right away. Yes, it might be unfair, but going to do what you're trying to do IS illegal, no matter how unjust what they did is. Fight fire with water, not more fire.

[slaytalera]

+1 on reporting back after you get arrested

seriously, dont do it

[stirally8]

I don't like being taken advantage of and will stand up for myself. I better not find any new dents or anything

[stirally8]

My friend just drove in front of it and sent me a pic all I gotta do is hop in and go

[harrymaneuvers]

Think of it this way...

The towing company had nothing to do with this incident... They didn't go hunt for your car and then tow it. They were called by the police who requested that your car be towed.

If the police officer was wrong to tag your vehicle for towing, then you would need to fight them over the cost.

At this point, the towing company has provided services that they should be paid on, regardless of whether or not the services were provided in error... it is just a matter of sorting out who owes the $90...

The tow truck company doesn't deserve to not make any money even though they paid hourly wage to an employee, plus gas and the time that it takes to process the impound.

If this was a single tow truck operator who was self employed... would you think that it is right for him to volunteer his time towing a vehicle that he wouldn't be paid on?

Of course not...


Your best bet would be to call or go to the police station and raise hell stating that it was you right to have 48 hours before the car would be towed... and they violated your rights. Or negotiate with the tow company for a lower bill.


If I could gauruntee that all my life lessons would only cost $90... it would be a bargain.

[stirally8]

The police should pay it. I know the company is doing there job but they are holding my car for no reason if they decide to take me to court for $90 that's up to them but I'm not handing over money I don't even have when it should never have been towed in the first place. even garages are not allowed to hold ur car they have to take you to civil court to sue for their money. Any way I'm gettin my car back tonight.

[redlegacygt]

lol well at least if you do it, then we'll know what will really happen.. trendsetter... i like it...lol

[GTDrifter]

I would go into the tow company and tell them what exactly happened, contact the state police as well and explain that you just ran out of gas and it wasn't actually a hazard (having a pic would have been a smart idea for this)

but yes going and taking it is still illegal...like when you car gets towed in a city, once its on the truck theres nothing you can do to get it back until its at the lot.

[harrymaneuvers]

Well I wish you the best of luck... but imagine pleading your case to a judge when he asks you how you plead for trespassing and maybe unauthorized use of a vehicle...

Maybe your state is different... but I am pretty sure that if a transmission shop performs their duties and puts in a transmission... and you refuse to pay... they arent required to give you your car back and then peruse you in court... they just hold your car until you pay.

[harrymaneuvers]

Just like if you didnt pay the tow shop... they would eventually sell your car at an auction to pay for the impound fees.

This to me tells me that they have just as much ownership as the person who didnt pay their fees.


I really hope this $90 doesnt turn into a conviction and TONS of more money in fines and fees.


When you are standing in front of the judge and she asks you if you were aware that you needed to pay $90 in order to get your vehicle back... what are you going to say?

"Well yes but I didnt feel like I owed that money so I figured it wouldnt be that big of a deal for me to take my car without the tow companies permission".

I cant think of a single answer that would suffice once you admit that you knowingly took your car without paying.

[Regardie]

The other thing to consider before you move the car is was it towed or put on a flatbed? Your Subaru has some very special needs when it gets towed. If it didn't make it onto a flatbed, you could have some serious damage. If you take the car, there is no way you would be able to file a claim for the damages. Just a thought.

[harrymaneuvers]

VERY GOOD POINT!!!!!!


Didnt even think about that...


Shit... why dont you call up the tow truck company and say that you drove by today and notice that your XXXXX was XXXXX


It can be anything... scrape, dent, grease spot inside the car... Bent antenna


And tell them that you wont pursue the issue if they waive the $90...

[GTDrifter]

probably wont work if you try accusing them of damaging the vehicle. They could say that there was absolutely no damage on the vehicle (if thats true) or that the damage already existed when they arrived to tow it. All they would have to do is wait for an insurance claim and if it didn't actually happen then its insurance fraud and your screwed anyway.

just call the tow company and state police...if that doesn't work just pay the $90 and move on...no sense risking more trouble taking your car back especially if it wasnt towed right and there is damage.

[peter]

I just heard a story on the news about a guy stealing his car back from a towyard haha. But you should try and get the police to pay it and if that doesnt work just try and drive away, Id like to see what happens with that lol

[csweston]

Usally when I do something illegal,
I make sure to document it on a public forum.
:lol: then you continue to do it after someone pointed it out.

[stirally8]

I did it. Lol I guess I'll see if anything happens. The whole point is is it really illegal? Ill let you all know. For now it's sitting in my driveway

[anothernord]

Prepare your anus.

[peter]

Prepare your anus.
Hahahahaha

[httrdd]

Dumb ass!

[d1giPhux]

chances are they will think you paid for it and wont be able to explain where the hell it went. it will be a confusion of paperwork, missing money, and a car thats magically dissapeared.

but yeah, better go buy some lube now. cause if it does catch up with you, your gonna get fucked hard. If you do get caught, just tell 'them' you paid for it in cash, and you have no clue what they are talking about.

[DarkPhoenix]

It will catch up with him, no doubt. Towyards do not fuck around when it comes to getting their money. They might just see the car parked somewhere in the neighbourhood, hook it up, and leave. You sir, have the intelligence of a retarded cucumber. You should have just paid the $90 and then fought it. Now you can technically be arrested for GTA, even if the car is yours. I wish you the best of luck when the Troopers come to take your stupid ass.

[TGX4776]

chances are they will think you paid for it and wont be able to explain where the hell it went. it will be a confusion of paperwork, missing money, and a car thats magically dissapeared.

but yeah, better go buy some lube now. cause if it does catch up with you, your gonna get fucked hard. If you do get caught, just tell 'them' you paid for it in cash, and you have no clue what they are talking about.



Most likely they have a security camera for that kind of thing.....

[98bksarah]

I wish I had weighed in on this the other day. Yeah. Be prepared possibly with legal counsel. What you did was "rationally fair"...BUt foolish. They do what they do, because they want to. You did what you wanted to do, because you felt it was right. But when it comes to legalities, they will always triumph, because they will justify their actions. You'll look like a theif, and their actions are practically theivery...But they will come out on top. I 'm sorry, boss. Just be prepared. Maybe you want to *sell* this thing to the bottom of a strip mine... :eek:

[Huffer]

Wow. You just won idiot of the day.

Court fees to fight a "wrongful" tow will be more than $90, you're dealing with the state. Plus, even if your car is off the road, it's still visible from the highway and wasn't parked behind a safety barrier - it's still a hazard. No judge will rule in your favor.

If you had money for gas, you should have pulled off the highway, filled up and gotten home. Poor planning on your part is the reason your car ran out of gas.

People like you waste taxpayer time and money, because now when the tow company discovers the car gone, they're going to alert the police, who are then going to waste their time to track you down, instead of catching real criminals.

I don't usually say this, but you're a real douche.

[BG5guy]

yup, dumb move. I give it 2 hours before the cops come knocking on your door. plus, if it does go to court, any good lawer is going to find this forum, see all of us telling you not to do it, and hit you with even more charges . See you in 6 to 12 months on charges of GTA, tresspassing, breaking and entering, and whatever stupid charges $90 bucks could have resolved.

[harrymaneuvers]

The problem is that we will never know what comes of this because if he does get popped... he isnt going to come back on here and tell us...


He would be too embarrassed.


I am also curious to hear how he thinks the best case scenario and the worst case scenario pan out... then tell us what he thinks is more likely.

[Grafton]

Good luck

[stirally8]

I've had no visitors yet

[SOREN]

great thread. Screw job for the OP for sure, but life is definitely not fair. I wonder how "not fair" it's going to be for him in the coming weeks. I wish him well, but hope that he learns for the future. That's a bad idea.

I think I'd go look at it in the towyard, see if there was anything I could complain about, and then go discuss this with the Police, and form a complaint/plus raise hell for whatever dent/chip is new - plus demand that you find out how it was towed, and if not properly, then raise further hell. If he ran out of gas, and pulled it off the road, there will be some form of evidence that you could photograph at the scene too. Running out of gas is pretty common, so really, there should be some form of understanding. 90.00 is a stiff penalty for this, but not one iota as stiff as what's coming to him, I'd expect. First by the po-po, then by the tow-tow, and finally by the row-row (prison guys, but I couldn't think of a good rhyme! :D)

[green97gt]

this whole.. "ima steal my shit back" thing reminded me of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJAVR5xGWE8

[BG5guy]

^^^ hahahahaha, thats probably my favorite video clip of that show, it had me dying the first time i saw it lol, good one

[harrymaneuvers]

Even if nothing ever happens... you will not have learned anything... so that when you go to do something like this again... and it ends up costing your tons of $$$$, you will wish that you paid $90 to learn that life lesson.

You looked at this whole incident completely wrong. You though that you were getting screwed by either the police or the tow company.

You should have thought "Geez if it costs me $90 each time I run out of gas and leave my car on the side of the road... maybe I shouldnt let my needle drop below E." That would have lead to a much more productive life than the way you interpreted it and acted upon it.


Feeling accomplished in what you just did is going to lead to WAY more issues with the way your thought process is on issues like this. I almost wish that you would get popped so that you wont be stupid enough to try this again.

I wish you the best of luck in your life... you will need it.


BTW: if and when the police or the tow company calls... are you just going to lie? A mans word is the only thing that defines him... and if you are willing to lie for $90 to the POLICE... what else are you going to lie about and to who? This whole incident is giving everybody tons of insight into you and the way you think.

[green97gt]

People like you waste taxpayer time and money, because now when the tow company discovers the car gone, they're going to alert the police, who are then going to waste their time to track you down, instead of catching real criminals.

I don't usually say this, but you're a real douche.

huffer, i usually dont agree with you, but bravo... :smt026


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Post Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:23 pm
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Even if nothing ever happens... you will not have learned anything... so that when you go to do something like this again... and it ends up costing your tons of $$$$, you will wish that you paid $90 to learn that life lesson.

You looked at this whole incident completely wrong. You though that you were getting screwed by either the police or the tow company.

You should have thought "Geez if it costs me $90 each time I run out of gas and leave my car on the side of the road... maybe I shouldnt let my needle drop below E." That would have lead to a much more productive life than the way you interpreted it and acted upon it.


Feeling accomplished in what you just did is going to lead to WAY more issues with the way your thought process is on issues like this. I almost wish that you would get popped so that you wont be stupid enough to try this again.

I wish you the best of luck in your life... you will need it.


BTW: if and when the police or the tow company calls... are you just going to lie? A mans word is the only thing that defines him... and if you are willing to lie for $90 to the POLICE... what else are you going to lie about and to who? This whole incident is giving everybody tons of insight into you and the way you think.

you cant fix stupid.

[harrymaneuvers]

hahahahaha good point.

[httrdd]

This is the only thing I can find and it is for Florida. Sounds to be right though.

http://www.ehow.com/i/#article_6507603

[csweston]

hmmm $90 or thousands in court fees because you "felt" it was the right thing to do. Sorry to inform you but the law doesn't care how you "feel" about it. So when your paying thousands in court fees, lawyers, and sitting in jail let me know how it "feels" to do what you think is right.

[DarkPhoenix]

The fact that the OP basically stated, in an open, public forum, that he was about to commit a host of felonies should put him on the list PA's Dumbest Criminals.

[Huffer]

I had to summarize thus far.


I was almost home last nite and ran out of gas. So I pulled off the side of the road folded in my power folding mirrors put a white sweatshirt in the window locked it and walked home. Today I grabbed the gas can went back to drive it home and it was gone. I called the state police and they told me to check the towing company. I call them up and they said the state police had them tow it becuase it was a hazard. Now they want $90 for the towing. It wasn't there for more than a few hours. And like I said it was off the road. I think I'm gonna go past the towing place tonight if it's not parked in I'm takin it back. Can I get in trouble for doing that? There was no signs posted where I parked it and I didn't tell them to tow it. They basically stole it and I may just steal it back.


My problem is I'm broke I don't plan on breaking in or any thing if my car is just sitting there I'm gonna get in it and leave. The place is also a convenient store alot of the time they park stuff in the parking lot so trespassing wouldn't be a big issue and how can I get in trouble for taking my own property. They don't even have my phone # or anything. I didn't ask anyone to tow it I just ran out of gas


That's where I'm stuck. Can they really file any charges? It should be up to the tow company to secure the car if it is sitting in the parking lot where I can just drive off I wouldn't be breaking any laws they could try to take me to court for the fees other than that. I don't know if they could do anything.


Screw em' I'm getting f'ed over I'm so pissed I have the title for it and never signed anything for them they stole my property I'll just say I found it parked there and took it home


According to Pennsylvania motor vehicle code an abandoned vehicle is a vehicle left inoperable or unattended for more than 48hrs. I parked it at 3:30 last night and went back for it when I got up today less than 12hrs later. They had no right to tow it like I said it was off the road. I'll take my chances in a court room. I've learned that the police are not always right I beat some charges a few weeks ago because the cop was only allowed to ask me ?s that will help him successfully complete the traffic stop and he was askin about my past weed use. I let everyone know how this turns out. Like I said I'm only taking it if I can get it out. I don't plan on breaking it out or damaging any property.


I'm not tryin to break any laws that's why I posted I don't think it's illegal to take my car. They are the ones Breaking the law


My friend just drove in front of it and sent me a pic all I gotta do is hop in and go


The police should pay it. I know the company is doing there job but they are holding my car for no reason if they decide to take me to court for $90 that's up to them but I'm not handing over money I don't even have when it should never have been towed in the first place. even garages are not allowed to hold ur car they have to take you to civil court to sue for their money. Any way I'm gettin my car back tonight.


PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 2:29 am
I did it. Lol I guess I'll see if anything happens. The whole point is is it really illegal? Ill let you all know. For now it's sitting in my driveway

[harrymaneuvers]

"I may just steal it back"


Think about that for a moment.

[d1giPhux]

I say you just delete this thread and call it a day before you cause this site to get a whole bunch of bad vibes. I give it like.. 48 hours before its posted up on google under the title name. :lol:

[DarkPhoenix]

I say you just delete this thread and call it a day before you cause this site to get a whole bunch of bad vibes. I give it like.. 48 hours before its posted up on google under the title name. :lol:

Don't you know the internet is like Herpes? It's forever. :)

[Huffer]

I beat some charges a few weeks ago because the cop was only allowed to ask me ?s that will help him successfully complete the traffic stop and he was askin about my past weed use.

I totally missed this gem.

[DarkPhoenix]

I beat some charges a few weeks ago because the cop was only allowed to ask me ?s that will help him successfully complete the traffic stop and he was askin about my past weed use.

I totally missed this gem.


Yeah, not all potheads are this stupid. He brings a whole new level to burnt out stoner!

[GTDrifter]

Let's not start insulting the OP because he jumped the gun and stole his car back. Put it this way...if nothing happens he's fine but the tow company might call the police for a stolen vehicle in which it definitely will catch up to him when a cop runs his plates. Best of luck to you and hope it all goes better for you.

[StatGSR]

Interestingly enough, the OP isn't the first person to ask this on the internet.... Now i think he should have googled it....

http://www.google.com/search?q=stealing ... =firefox-a (http://www.google.com/search?q=stealing+my+car+back&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)

[BG5guy]

^^ will most def happen, the tow company wont want to be liable for a stolen vehicle and will def call 50, who will in turn drive by his house and see it parked. Oops on his part.

[SOREN]

this is a funny one, and happy ending!
http://people.tribe.net/c78a1192-506f-4 ... cc78e94795 (http://people.tribe.net/c78a1192-506f-48a8-a0c7-85310fac19eb/blog/cfd5a084-323a-41f4-8dc7-28cc78e94795)

[BG5guy]

there is a local story here in oregon just posted of guy who "took" back his impreza that was towed and i facing felony charges and up to 3 years inprisonment. Granted he ran over the tow truck driver and got attempted murder but still, made me think of this guy lol

[stirally8]

Well a cop called me which I find it funny that a borough cop can reach me by telephone on a line that is not even in my name after I retrieve my car. But yet the state police could not contact me before they have my car towed. He said if I don't pay that they may file theft by deception charges against me. I don't know how deception comes into play. I guess I'll see them in court. Atleast I have my car back.

[BG5guy]

id recommend just paying, $90 bucks is still cheaper then attorney fees

[harrymaneuvers]

Hi five for trading a $90 tow fee for a conviction...

You are not going to win this one... ESPECIALLY IF YOU REPRESENT YOURSELF!!!!

Again, what are you going to say to the judge when they ask you if you knew that you needed to pay the $90?


Either you are going to lie (under oath) or you are going to say that you did know that you owed the fees, in which case you just plead guilty to the charges...


What amazes me is that you reached out to us for advice and still went against what everyone said...


Why did you even ask the question if every response you got was telling you not to do it and you still did?


I hope they throw the book at you man... dont ask for advice if you arent going to change your mind anyways...

[harrymaneuvers]

Oh yea... Have fun with your charges... Looks like a felony to me...

http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthr ... 642&page=1 (http://www.expertlaw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1642&page=1)



Pennsylvania Criminal Law
Theft by Deception is defined as follows:
Quoting Pennsylvania Statutes Chapter 39 § 3922. Theft by deception.
(a) Offense defined.--A person is guilty of theft if he intentionally obtains or withholds property of another by deception. A person deceives if he intentionally:

1. creates or reinforces a false impression, including false impressions as to law, value, intention or other state of mind; but deception as to a person's intention to perform a promise shall not be inferred from the fact alone that he did not subsequently perform the promise;

2. prevents another from acquiring information which would affect his judgment of a transaction; or

3. fails to correct a false impression which the deceiver previously created or reinforced, or which the deceiver knows to be influencing another to whom he stands in a fiduciary or confidential relationship.

(b) Exception.--The term "deceive" does not, however, include falsity as to matters having no pecuniary significance, or puffing by statements unlikely to deceive ordinary persons in the group addressed.
Penalties are outlined in a separate statute, and depend upon the facts of the offense:
Quoting Pennsylvania Statutes Chapter 39 § 3903. Grading of theft offenses.
(a) Felony of the second degree.--Theft constitutes a felony of the second degree if:

1. The offense is committed during a manmade disaster, a natural disaster or a war-caused disaster and constitutes a violation of section 3921 (relating to theft by unlawful taking or disposition), 3925 (relating to receiving stolen property), 3928 (relating to unauthorized use of automobiles and other vehicles) or 3929 (relating to retail theft).

2. The property stolen is a firearm.

3. In the case of theft by receiving stolen property, the property received, retained or disposed of is a firearm and the receiver is in the business of buying or selling stolen property.

(a.1) Felony of the third degree.--Except as provided in subsection (a), theft constitutes a felony of the third degree if the amount involved exceeds $2,000, or if the property stolen is an automobile, airplane, motorcycle, motorboat or other motor-propelled vehicle, or in the case of theft by receiving stolen property, if the receiver is in the business of buying or selling stolen property.

(b) Other grades.--Theft not within subsection (a) or (a.1) of this section, constitutes a misdemeanor of the first degree, except that if the property was not taken from the person or by threat, or in breach of fiduciary obligation, and:

1. the amount involved was $50 or more but less than $200 the offense constitutes a misdemeanor of the second degree; or
2. the amount involved was less than $50 the offense constitutes a misdemeanor of the third degree.

(c) Valuation.--The amount involved in a theft shall be ascertained as follows:

1. Except as otherwise specified in this section, value means the market value of the property at the time and place of the crime, or if such cannot be satisfactorily ascertained, the cost of replacement of the property within a reasonable time after the crime.

2. Whether or not they have been issued or delivered, certain written instruments, not including those having a readily ascertainable market value such as some public and corporate bonds and securities, shall be evaluated as follows:

i. The value of an instrument constituting an evidence of debt, such as a check, draft or promissory note, shall be deemed the amount due or collectible thereon or thereby, such figure ordinarily being the face amount of the indebtedness less any portion thereof which has been satisfied.

ii. The value of any other instrument which creates, releases, discharges or otherwise affects any valuable legal right, privilege or obligation shall be deemed the greatest amount of economic loss which the owner of the instrument might reasonably suffer by virtue of the loss of the instrument.

3. When the value of property cannot be satisfactorily ascertained pursuant to the standards set forth in paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection its value shall be deemed to be an amount less than $50. Amounts involved in thefts committed pursuant to one scheme or course of conduct, whether from the same person or several persons, may be aggregated in determining the grade of the offense.

(d) Definitions.--As used in this section, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this subsection:

"Manmade disaster." - Any industrial, nuclear or transportation accident, explosion, conflagration, power failure, natural resource shortage or other condition, except enemy action, resulting from manmade causes, such as oil spills and other injurious environmental contamination, which threatens or causes substantial damage to property, human suffering, hardship or loss of life.

"Natural disaster." - Any hurricane, tornado, storm, flood, high water, wind-driven water, tidal wave, earthquake, landslide, mudslide, snowstorm, drought, fire, explosion or other catastrophe which results in substantial damage to property, hardship, suffering or possible loss of life.

"War-caused disaster." - Any condition following an attack upon the United States resulting in substantial damage to property or injury to persons in the United States caused by use of bombs, missiles, shellfire, nuclear, radiological, chemical or biological means, or other weapons or overt paramilitary actions, or other conditions such as sabotage.

[BG5guy]

wow, 3rd degree felony, no bueno

[TGX4776]

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/04/sj_popcorngif-1.jpg

[ElbryanWolf]

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/04/sj_popcorngif-1.jpg

LOL :lol:

The suspense! The drama! What will hapen next? Stay tuned and see!

[BG5guy]

hahaha

[httrdd]

Wow man you are seriously going go pursue this? Good luck and tell bubba I said hi!

[TGX4776]

Wow man you are seriously going go pursue this? Good luck and tell bubba I said hi!


I sense a story coming on :wink:

[httrdd]

Lol. Shit that came out wrong.

[GTDrifter]

Yeah dude...honestly don't fight it, just pay the $90 and be on your way. Court fees and getting this on your record is worse than $90. Trust me, I fought cops in the court and have won WHEN THEY WERE ACTUALLY WRONG. You are definitely fighting a losing battle just to save $90.

If you dont have $90 then sell your intake/grille/front lip/carbon fiber trim to get the damn money.

[d1giPhux]

$90 bux aint shit, your better off just paying it. Fighting the legal system is a waste of time, and you wont win. $90 is pretty cheap for a tow charge. Once i got towed (by a guy who later got busted for towing people illegally) and he charged me around $250. So.. feel lucky it wasn't more and just pay it up. Then take them to court, you will look much better in the judges eyes.

[DarkPhoenix]

The OP has just reinforced, in my eyes at least, that he is a no good oxygen thief!


Retard, pay the god damn fine.

[phi11]

But he didn't do anything wrong,
he's never wrong!

When the cops saw his car on the side of the road, empty,
they should of filled it with gas for him.
(plus a car wash and wax, I mean, these cops have nothing better to do)
Then the tow guy could pick it up, and drop it off at his house,
FOR FREE.
:tool:

[mycargoesvroom]

I can has car when you go jail?

PS: Don't drop the soap.

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

WOW dude! Can't believe you actually did this!

[stirally8]

Such haters. Lol I never said I was always right and if you read the description of the charge it will be a 2nd degree misdemeanor category plus there was no deception involved. It's not like I parked in a handicap space or right under a no parking sign I had off the side of a secondary road not even a highway it was only there overnight and I had a sweatshirt hanging out the window(the universal sign for I will b right back). There was no reason for it to be towed. It would be different if I was bitchin and did this and I was parked in a firelane.

[harrymaneuvers]

Dont try to downplay your charges bro... If you think they are going to file charges of a $90 theft... you are crazy. The car was in there possession, you took the car from their possession.


"(a.1) Felony of the third degree.--Except as provided in subsection (a), theft constitutes a felony of the third degree if the amount involved exceeds $2,000, or if the property stolen is an automobile, airplane, motorcycle, motorboat or other motor-propelled vehicle, or in the case of theft by receiving stolen property, if the receiver is in the business of buying or selling stolen property.

"They basically stole it and I may just steal it back."

You already admitted to stealing your car from them...

Your F***ed...

[phi11]

it was only there overnight and I had a sweatshirt hanging out the window(the universal sign for I will b right back).
A. I have never heard of this.
B. Did you go right back, no.
C. Hater, sure. You asked us a stupid question, and went ahead a did the opposit of what we told you.

Winning!

[peter]

it was only there overnight and I had a sweatshirt hanging out the window(the universal sign for I will b right back).
A. I have never heard of this.
B. Did you go right back, no.
C. Hater, sure. You asked us a stupid question, and went ahead a did the opposit of what we told you.

Winning!

+1 cause I agree with all the points you said and +1million for use of winning! haha

[DarkPhoenix]

Like Charlie Sheen, the OP is full of winning.

[MRLancaster]

Im curious if he actually did this...
If he thinks we're haters...good thing you didnt post on nasioc... :lol: From the replies here, we clearly stated its not a good idea your going to get into big trouble. Nasioc on the other hand.....

[BG5guy]

Those darn police officers shoulda known he was starting a new trend with the white shirt being code for " Ran out of gas, be back in less then 12 hours, dont tow me" lol.

[harrymaneuvers]

hahahahahaha

[httrdd]

Something in the window that is light in color is known as "vehicle disabled" just so you guys know.

[Huffer]

No, a hood propped open is universal for "vehicle disabled" or hazard lights blinking.

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/br ... neral.html (http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/breakdown_advice/general.html)

Hanging something white in the window is not a universally recognized action.

[StatGSR]

Something in the window that is light in color is known as "vehicle disabled" just so you guys know.

I guess i missed the memo :smt017

[httrdd]

No, a hood propped open is universal for "vehicle disabled" or hazard lights blinking.

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/br ... neral.html (http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/breakdown_advice/general.html)

Hanging something white in the window is not a universally recognized action.

Ok mister know it all! :smt019 I mean you see cars all the time with something jambed in their windows. Go ahead and take a drive I will wait. :smt020

[MRLancaster]

Thats what I've always seen in VA and states surrounding, a white shirt or towel in the window, means disabled or somethings wrong. I would have done the same.....minus stealing the car back.

[BG5guy]

httrdd it is a sign for a disabled vehicle, not the sign for " ill be right bacl" as he put it. I wish the guy luck in all this, he shoulda just listened to our advise rather then asking and not listening, thats why everyone is chiming in on this thread., its been 3 days and he already has more responses then some threads that have been on here for months lol.

[phi11]

Well a cop called me which I find it funny that a borough cop can reach me by telephone on a line that is not even in my name after I retrieve my car.

um, did you call the tow company with your cell phone?????


I call them up
:smt044

maybe lay off the weed for awhile,
better yet, quit buying weed, so you can buy gas and/or pay off tickets.

[Huffer]

Ok, I think we're done now. Everyone's had their fun, let's just wait for the news report or court report.