OEM JDM BD/BG GT-B/RS Limited photos!

[Dead91silvia]

Hey guys, I'm trying to figure out all I can about the GT-B Limited's and JDM RS Legacy's. I cant really find too many photos of stock ones around. I was hoping that some of you guys in Japan and maybe Australia/NZ could help me out.

I'm basically trying to build a USDM RS B. Spec Limited... I'm planing on doing everything but a RHD conversion. I'm doing the same thing I did with my S13 and building what we "could" have had, if they would have been imported. No body kit, just OEM parts. I'm trying to locate and figure what I need to save for the parts... I dont even know if they made Limited RS Sedan's, but thats what I'm building...

Keep the info coming! This could be a great thread!

Thanks for the help guys...

Alright, this will be a work in progress...
JDM/USDM parts difference and interchange for BD/BK/BG

-Head lights (all lights have different bulbs and plugs)
USDM 95-97 AND JDM 93-97 one piece (JDM has opposite beam pattern)
98-99 2 piece (different plugs)
JDM 96-97 Projectors (one piece, wiring needed)

JDM GT-B head light (note: has USDM grill)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/DSCF1264-1.jpg

USDM 95-97 head light
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/01/IMG_4780-1.jpg

USDM 98-99(working on getting a pic)

-Side trim/molding
USDM 95-99 high profile/dome plastic filler pieces (some painted, some black plastic) Also
JDM Low profile with marker light in fender (note: appears to be available in clear and amber)

USDM Painted (never mind my flaky paint)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/IMG_0885-1.jpg

JDM amber marker and flat side molding
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/DSCF1261-1.jpg

-Tail lights
USDM 95-99 Red/Amber (all side lights, SD, WG)
JDM 93-95 Red/Clear (all side lights, SD, WG)
JDM 96-97 Red/Smoked (all side lights, WG)
USDM Wagon Center "Subaru"
JDM Wagon Center "Legacy" (Direct bolt on)
USDM Sedan Center "Subaru"
JDM Sedan Center "Legacy" (note, deck lids are different, WILL NOT INTERCHANGE)

USDM Sedan and Wagon
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/IMG_6210-1.jpg

JDM Wagon
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/DSCF1258-1.jpg

-Bumper front
USDM All will interchange (Note: Outback and GT bumpers are "tall" grill. All other bumpers are "Short" grill)
JDM 93-95 "short grill"
JDM 96-97 "tall grill" (but still shorter than USDM)
JDM GT-B Limited (has an extra set of large fog lights)

USDM GT 97-99
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/IMG_8267ps-1.jpg

JDM GT-B Limited
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/DSCF0956-1.jpg

USDM Outback/SUS 96-99
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/01/IMG_4783-1.jpg

USDM L, LSI bumper 95-97?
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/08/IMG_4810-1.jpg


-Fog lights
USDM 96-99 Outback bumper only
USDM 96-99 GT bumper (possible fit to JDM bumper, but why?)
JDM 96-97 Projector fogs (need modification to fit USMD bumper. Wiring needed)

Outback 96-99
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/01/IMG_4782-1.jpg

USDM GT 97-99
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/IMG_231511-1.jpg

-Interior
All center console pieces seem to interchange.
Door cards (inserts)? Looks like they will interchange
Any insight on Airbags?

JDM/ADM OEM dash
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/interior06-1.jpg

USDM light color wood grain
JDM light and dark colors wood grain. Center pieces seem to interchange, master window switch will not.

-Mud guards/rocker covers
USDM 96-99 Outback (L, LS, and LSI should be the same)
USDM GT 96-99 black plastic or painted rocker covers, no mud guards
JDM years 94-97 Mud guards Will they interchange?

JDM Mud guards
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/DSCF1261-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/DSCF1259-1.jpg

-Skid plates
USDM Outback Diff plate (rare)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/reardiffplate2-1.jpg

JDM/ADM front plate (pic in thread, will move later)

Random cool JDM stuff!
Rear netting for wagon
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/DSCF0810-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/DSCF0813-1.jpg

Rear seat w/fold down console
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/DSCF1272-1.jpg

Cup holders
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/DSCF1271-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/DSCF1269-1.jpg

rear seat
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/DSCF1298-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/DSCF1296-1.jpg

Front seats
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/DSCF1273-1.jpg

[phi11]

side door molding is different.
rear window wiper.
the shifter surround has the card holder.
aero guards
(I have all four!)

that's all I can come up with for now.

[phi11]

doesn't the GT-B have the "duel fog" button.
I've been looking for that for awhile now.


edit: rear trunks are different.

[slaytalera]

Yup they have a fog selector switch, and if you want extra authentic points, figure out how to wire up the outside lights to turn on(and stay on) with the signal lights(example:turn on left blinker, left outside light turns on to illuminate the corner).

Door cards and seats are also different....dunno how in depth you were looking to go though.

[Dead91silvia]

I did know about the side molding and the deck lid... Both things low on my list. I wont be changing the side molding as of now. The deck lid will be later...

Do you have pic of the Aero guards? That sounds interesting! And are they for or fit a sedan?

rear wiper and different fog switch is interesting... I have a line on a OEM Limited Fog switch, but dont know about any others...

[Dead91silvia]

Yup they have a fog selector switch, and if you want extra authentic points, figure out how to wire up the outside lights to turn on(and stay on) with the signal lights(example:turn on left blinker, left outside light turns on to illuminate the corner).

Door cards and seats are also different....dunno how in depth you were looking to go though.

Yeah, I'm trying to do all the lights as they should also... just waiting for the time to wire up my sides and the rest of the heads at the same time... Seats.... ehh... maybe some day. I like the ones I have, I just wanna convert them to heated... haha :grin: I'm going for practical mods at this point, but wanted a comprehensive list of everything different. I keep finding new things on my own, but if someone has ones of these, or knows the stuff already it would be nice! Maybe later on turn this into the BD/BG/BK JDM thread...

The only thing I would like is pics of everything. It's easy to find JDM GT-B pics, but not Limited or RS pics... Also looking for things from different years and such...

[slaytalera]

Paging Reuben, Reuben come in. He's pretty much got photos of his car from just about every angle inside and out, you should speak to him

[Yamazaki]

Only the GT-B limited has the dual fog selector switch and the card holder is only on automatics. Dead91Silvia, considering there's a '97 GT-B limited sitting outside in my driveway that's mostly stock, I'll take a bunch of pictures and send them to you. Give me a couple days for the weather to behave. However, the RS is a sedan version of the GT-B, not the GT-B limited. I'll dig up Subaru brochures from the era and scan those for you too.

[Dead91silvia]

Only the GT-B limited has the dual fog selector switch and the card holder is only on automatics. Dead91Silvia, considering there's a '97 GT-B limited sitting outside in my driveway that's mostly stock, I'll take a bunch of pictures and send them to you. Give me a couple days for the weather to behave. However, the RS is a sedan version of the GT-B, not the GT-B limited. I'll dig up Subaru brochures from the era and scan those for you too.

You rock! :smt023

Like I said, I'm building a car that the US never got, so I'm not going 100% JDM. A slight mix if you will... Any and all details would be awesome! I think I read some where, the GT-B Limited was only in Wagon form. As of now, I have all the USDM parts that could go on a BD that came from Subaru America. Heated mirrors and Heated seats are the last and thats just wiring, I have all the parts...

I'm also toying with the idea of doing a digi HVAC... Any input on that? I have seen the conversions done on S13's a few times and I know they are a challenge...

[Yamazaki]

For the digital HVAC stuff, do a search in these forums. I sent info to somebody else who did it and I think they posted about it...

As far as I can tell from looking at them, the only difference between the GT-B limited and GT-B is the front bumper and foglight setup. The same goes for the TS-R limited, etc.. The "limited" bumper was only on wagons. I've posted a listing of all the 2nd and 3rd Gen Legacys that were offered here (Japan). I recommend you check that out so you better know what is available to borrow ideas from.

[Dead91silvia]

I'll see if I can find any info on it. I plan on keeping this car for a while. I need to do a heater core soon also, so that might be a good time to do it if I can find the parts...

I was wondering what the difference was with the Limited's and the regular GT-B's. Your pics will help out big time also. I really want to see what the interior differences are. I saw one members car from NZ or AU with some cool looking carbon/marble style interior trim. Looked stock, but figured the driver power window switch is mirrored and wouldnt work, but not sure. I'm a nut about detail. One reason I want "RS" badges for my car also.

Is this the tread you referring to?
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17559 (http://www.sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=17559)
I read this one a while back. Good stuff!

[Yamazaki]

PM sent with a link to photobucket album. I wasn't going to post 40+ pics....

[httrdd]

Why not! Post link then. Lol

[harrymaneuvers]

JDM cars have a "brushed aluminum finish with a hint of olive green" Its still plastic and scratches just as easily.

From chuckthefucks old BD... not a very good pic:

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3442/dsc01068tbu.jpg

Rubens GT-B limited:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/seq9-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9872


Also, didnt I see a LONG time ago that someones BD had the retractable antenna on the bumper that is for parking???? Maybe I am thinking of something else.

Oh yea... and you could get a factory legacy skidplate too... they pop up every now and then... mainly on Australia ebay... postal vehicels here in the US sometimes have them too.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/10/P5241559JPG-1.jpg

[slaytalera]

The only cars I've seen with retractable parking antennas were 90's Mercedes, I've never seen a suby with them

[harrymaneuvers]

Then yea that was my 92 190E 2.6L.


Sorry bout that.

[Yamazaki]

Retractable parking antenna is an aftermarket thing. You can get them on any car here. And we didn't have any skidplate option here. I'm guessing Australia is different though.

We have both dark and light woodgrain. Depends on the trim level. GT-B had dark, but GT and 250T had light.

[hansvonaxion]

And we didn't have any skidplate option here. I'm guessing Australia is different though.

They do have them here, after reading some articles on intercoolers I was gonna get one, but then found I have a plastic one which probably does the same as the alumi with regards to airflow.

??? ??????? ?????????? (http://www.upgarage.com/upgarage/stock/1/2/0908018001678/018)

[Yamazaki]

I stand corrected. I don't have the "option parts" catalogue with that in it and I'd never come across one, that why I was sure we didn't get it...

[hansvonaxion]

If you want the wood trim you might want this? (http://www.upgarage.com/upgarage/stock/stock.php?detail=1&data_kubun=2&shouhin_cd=1110020002188&tenpo_id=020)

On second thought half of it wouldnt fit. Shame. You could probably find someone to swap with though, the wood is not cool.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/1110020002188s1-1.jpg

[Dead91silvia]

I'm adding some random notes as I think of them... Kinda trying to put together an easy USMD/JDM interchange tread... Might make it easier for some of us to figure out what will work and what wont without going crazy looking things up asking a question that might never get answered...

YamazakiSubaru, got me some excellent pics that I'll get posted... This is kinda turning into a what do we all have out there, in every country thread.... haha

[arumdevil]

Hey, I stumbled across this thread whilst searching for pics of GT-Bs, random!

anyway, this looks like an interesting project, respect for putting in all the effort. I live in the UK and U currently own a 1996 JDM GT-B, but I previously owned a 1997 GT-B Limited, which I am currently breaking for parts. The remainder of it will be going to the scrap yard soon.

The differences between GT-B and limited are more than just the bumper and extra fogs, although of course as you've probably found with these JDM models what's standard is hard to pin down as there seems to be so much variation and many exceptions to the rules.

What my Limited has/had that my GT-B doesn'/didn't (I put it like that because I have swapped many of the Limited parts to the older GT-B now) are:

• Front bumper with extra fogs, 'limited' badge on lower grill.

• "Fog select" switch next to the front fog light switch (I have this if you want to buy it, no need for it now).

• dark, almost black 'wood effect' trim on stereo/AC surround, window switches.

• wood (walnut I think) gear stick nob and steering wheel (partial leather).

• slightly different seats and material.

• cup-holder in rear armrest.

that's all as far as I can remember.

If you're interested i any parts let me know ASAP. I'm going away for christmas to italy and then back through the alps for some snowboard action (yes, in the GT-B, ready with new set of nokians!) so wont' be back until the 15th Jan, but when I do get back I will be cleaning up the rest of the old LTD and getting it taken away, so if you do want anything I'd have to make sure I take it off for you before that. Bear in mind that a lot of it's already gone, and certain things like the bumper and extra fog lights I've transferred to the GT-B.

I do have the steering wheel available - it's got some surface mould from sitting for over a year but it will clean up nicely with a good clean and some disinfectant.

Also you might be interested in the 'fog select' switch which is extremely rear. I have no need for it as I am using an extra standard fog switch instead.

Do let me know if you want any of that, or if there's anything else you're after I can see if I have it still. I have lots of photos too so if you want to see anything specific let me know.

I'd be interested to keep an eye on this as it progresses, so if you could keep updates going in this thread that would be great as I'll get email notification - I won't be checking the rest of the forum.

merry christmas time!

arum

PS, here's some pics of the Limited:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/dmr_01-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/dmr_02-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/dmr_03-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/snow_01-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/snow_02-1.jpg

and the GT-B that replaced it:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/IMG_6016-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/dmr_01-2.jpg

and with the Limited bumper and foglights:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/12/photo1-1.jpg

[chuckthefuk]

I like the thread +1 !

I fixed the dash insert description and photo.. its a "brushed aluminum finished with a hint of olive green" stupid plastic.. stupid ebay making it sound like real aluminum..

Also the bumper antenna is called a "Parking Pole" and Peugoby's has it on his car => viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6401&start=120 (http://www.sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6401&start=120)

[Dead91silvia]

All corrections are welcomes, just like I told Yamazaki. I'm dyslexic so I miss stuff all the time with miss spellings and such. Also if there is a discrepancy as well. I want this thread to be 100% correct. :smt023

I have more info, just havent had the time...

[Dead91silvia]

Hey, I stumbled across this thread whilst searching for pics of GT-Bs, random!

anyway, this looks like an interesting project, respect for putting in all the effort. I live in the UK and U currently own a 1996 JDM GT-B, but I previously owned a 1997 GT-B Limited, which I am currently breaking for parts. The remainder of it will be going to the scrap yard soon.

The differences between GT-B and limited are more than just the bumper and extra fogs, although of course as you've probably found with these JDM models what's standard is hard to pin down as there seems to be so much variation and many exceptions to the rules.

What my Limited has/had that my GT-B doesn'/didn't (I put it like that because I have swapped many of the Limited parts to the older GT-B now) are:

• Front bumper with extra fogs, 'limited' badge on lower grill.

• "Fog select" switch next to the front fog light switch (I have this if you want to buy it, no need for it now).

• dark, almost black 'wood effect' trim on stereo/AC surround, window switches.

• wood (walnut I think) gear stick nob and steering wheel (partial leather).

• slightly different seats and material.

• cup-holder in rear armrest.

that's all as far as I can remember.

If you're interested i any parts let me know ASAP. I'm going away for christmas to italy and then back through the alps for some snowboard action (yes, in the GT-B, ready with new set of nokians!) so wont' be back until the 15th Jan, but when I do get back I will be cleaning up the rest of the old LTD and getting it taken away, so if you do want anything I'd have to make sure I take it off for you before that. Bear in mind that a lot of it's already gone, and certain things like the bumper and extra fog lights I've transferred to the GT-B.

I do have the steering wheel available - it's got some surface mould from sitting for over a year but it will clean up nicely with a good clean and some disinfectant.

Also you might be interested in the 'fog select' switch which is extremely rear. I have no need for it as I am using an extra standard fog switch instead.

Do let me know if you want any of that, or if there's anything else you're after I can see if I have it still. I have lots of photos too so if you want to see anything specific let me know.

I'd be interested to keep an eye on this as it progresses, so if you could keep updates going in this thread that would be great as I'll get email notification - I won't be checking the rest of the forum.

merry christmas time!

arum



Very cool! As soon as your back from your Holiday, you should post some pics up in Members Rides and do an Intro thread! Looks like a clean BG! It's cool to see someone from the UK.

[camroncamera]

Awesome thread, loving the GT-B Limited look! The profile of the Limited bumper, especially, really transforms the Legacy. But taken together (Limited bumper, grille, projectors, folding mirrors, BG5 17" wheels, spats, smoked tails (non-amber), rear bumper lip, Bilstein lowered sport suspension, sport seats...) these JDM details absolutely *make* the look of the car, compared to all the USDM models. I'm looking into making this cosmetic conversion on my wife's '98 black USDM LGT BK wagon. So far, I've got the JDM projector headlights and a JDM RFRB grille installed (not GT-B Limited accurate, I know, but it beats the pants off the USDM grille IMO). I've just received a very nice set of unpainted black JDM Aero Guards/Mud Guards/Spats/Bungs (whatever they're called lol) from the UK. I welcome any other leads to reasonably-priced, excellent condition GT-B and Limited cosmetic conversion parts. Our LGT BK wagon is an excellent-condition Black Granite Pearl metallic automatic. I'm uncertain if this was a paint code offered in the Japanese market, however.

I do prefer the USDM BK smooth-roof wagon vs. the BG stepped roof... but I suppose for accuracy, a stepped-roof USDM Outback Limited could just as easily be converted to this GT-B look? I think the USDM Outback Limited roof rails match the JDM model as well, whereas the USDM BK wagon rails are shorter and thicker. I don't know if the two-tone color on the USDM Outback body panels is painted or if the lower cladding is some sort of sheet/applique?

[Dead91silvia]

It's one thing to build a complete GT-B/RS replica, but another to make it yours.

I'm not doing a 100% perfect replica, I'm building a what if. It's like in Japan, they didnt have Silvias (coupes) with flip up head lights and we didnt get Silvia front ends. I'm building a "RS-Limited" that neven was produced, but the way I like it. I'm still rockin' my USDM SUS grill.

And yes, you be a true GT-B, you would need a BG roof style car with dual sun roofs, but thats what makes it a little more unique is having the BK low roof car over here and matching them to t a GT-B. This thread is for giving people the info needed for the JDM counter parts so they can find the parts they want and what all the differences are.

[arumdevil]

It's one thing to build a complete GT-B/RS replica, but another to make it yours.

I'm not doing a 100% perfect replica, I'm building a what if. It's like in Japan, they didnt have Silvias (coupes) with flip up head lights and we didnt get Silvia front ends. I'm building a "RS-Limited" that neven was produced, but the way I like it. I'm still rockin' my USDM SUS grill.

And yes, you be a true GT-B, you would need a BG roof style car with dual sun roofs, but thats what makes it a little more unique is having the BK low roof car over here and matching them to t a GT-B. This thread is for giving people the info needed for the JDM counter parts so they can find the parts they want and what all the differences are.

The thing is, even all the official GT-Bs (never mind the limited models) tend to vary so much from one example to another, that there really is no definite spec list for them. I am a member on UKlegacy.com and there are quite a lot of them on there, but it's rare to find two the exact same spec. The engines are basically all the same (the earlier GTs are different, kind of like the difference between WRX and STi on the imprezas), but in terms of fit and finish, so many variations.

Twin sunroofs are not always present either. Both my Limited and my current GT-B had them (after having them the first time I really wanted them again, so I held out until I found what I wanted), but many of them don't. They all have the higher roof though.

I still have a few parts if anyone needs anything, although most of the good stuff is gone and the rest is going soon. I have a Limited bumper that has some damage. It's repairable, but not ideal. If anyone's interested I am open to negotiating a price but bear in mind I'm in the UK so shipping might be an issue, particularly as it's already a bit frail.


I'll try to get the car cleaned over the weekend, get some nice pics, and post an introduction thread up.

[Dead91silvia]

If you got more pics, please feel free to post them up! Even more so interior pics! Finding that there are a few differences with USDM and JDM. Would be interesting to see what you UK guys got!

[arumdevil]

Can't get pics of the limited other than what I have archived, will see what I've got.

[Dead91silvia]

Well after having Yamazaki look at my car in person, we both realized some interesting differences.

-very few cars had adjustable intermittent wipers
-JDM cars have a alarm sensor were the map lights are
-We are not sure about the rear seat and if the JDM cars fold down or just have a pass through for the BD's
-my leather seats are in off black, not black like JDM ones
-USDM cars did not get the grab handles in the later years...

Just a bunch of odd stuff for sure...

[arumdevil]

-very few cars had adjustable intermittent wipers

Both of my GT-Bs had this and I believe most do, but I don't think UKDM do.

-JDM cars have a alarm sensor were the map lights are

It's not an alarm sensor as JDM Subarus of that era don't have alarms fitted from the factory. It's a sensor for the remote locking. There's also a very cool keyless entry system whereby you prgrAmme a PIN and use the drivers handle to enter said PIN which then opens the door. I now leave a spare key INSIDE the car (well hidden of course).


-We are not sure about the rear seat and if the JDM cars fold down or just have a pass through for the BD's

Yes all JDM wagons of this era the seats fold down flat. I have been known to sleep in the back on occasion.


-my leather seats are in off black, not black like JDM ones

I've never seen a JDM legacy of that era with leather seats. Always velour or half alcantara.

Just my observations. We have lots of these JDM models here due to them beIng RHD.

[MarkSubi]

If you want the wood trim you might want this? (http://www.upgarage.com/upgarage/stock/stock.php?detail=1&data_kubun=2&shouhin_cd=1110020002188&tenpo_id=020)

On second thought half of it wouldnt fit. Shame. You could probably find someone to swap with though, the wood is not cool.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/1110020002188s1-1.jpg


Holy crap Id love to have this. Well the the wood grain parts I don't have I mean and if its the same wood grain as mine.

[hansvonaxion]

That's an aftermarket kit so I don't think it matches the JDM wood let alone the USDM wood.

Something I just noticed earlier in the thread, the "black aluminium finish with the hint of olive green" is only for the limited, the regular GT-B just gets matte black plastic.


-We are not sure about the rear seat and if the JDM cars fold down or just have a pass through for the BD's
Yes all JDM wagons of this era the seats fold down flat. I have been known to sleep in the back on occasion.

Actually he's talking about the sedans there (BD), don't know if they had folding rear seats.

[arumdevil]

ah sorry, wasn't sure hence why I made sure I said wagons :)

hansvonaxion, recognise that username ;)

[hansvonaxion]

ah sorry, wasn't sure hence why I made sure I said wagons :)

hansvonaxion, recognise that username ;)

Yeah it wasn't that clear in the OP. I thought the same as you at first but I think it was referring to the sedan.

What happened, you take a wrong turn and end up on the wrong side of the pond? :smt006

[Yamazaki]

To clarify, I have made my "corrections" in red below.

Well after having Yamazaki look at my car in person, we both realized some interesting differences.

-very few cars had adjustable intermittent wipers (talking about sedans here, not wagons. All wagons had intermittent)
-JDM cars have a alarm sensor were the map lights are (I said it was a keyless infrared sensor, as opposed to keyless radio signal sensor)
-We are not sure about the rear seat and if the JDM cars fold down or just have a pass through for the BD's (again, talking about sedans here [which is why he says "BD"]. All wagons have fold down obviously)
-my leather seats are in off black, not black like JDM ones (the only trims that offered leather seats were the GTs and the 250T [I'm not counting Grandwagons or Lancasters])
-USDM cars did not get the grab handles in the later years...

Just a bunch of odd stuff for sure...
(We also noticed that the US cars got lights by the vanity mirrors. I thought that was cool)

[Dead91silvia]

Yeah, I was a little vague... But yes, Yamazaki is right and I agree...

-Few USDM cars got the adjustable wipers (includes all USDM, L, GT, OB, not just sedan though).
-The key thing, I couldnt remember what it was called... I knew it had to do with keys and locking and all the fun stuff... hahah
-Yes, I forget some people dont know body/chassis codes.... my bad... lol... Reference was to Sedans...

Motivates me to look at some more stuff and see what other little things are different that we have missed... Oh yeah, light visors to me are no big thing, but apparently it was only the US that got them. Can someone verify this for me?


To clarify, I have made my "corrections" in red below.

Well after having Yamazaki look at my car in person, we both realized some interesting differences.

-very few cars had adjustable intermittent wipers (talking about sedans here, not wagons. All wagons had intermittent)
-JDM cars have a alarm sensor were the map lights are (I said it was a keyless infrared sensor, as opposed to keyless radio signal sensor)
-We are not sure about the rear seat and if the JDM cars fold down or just have a pass through for the BD's (again, talking about sedans here [which is why he says "BD"]. All wagons have fold down obviously)
-my leather seats are in off black, not black like JDM ones (the only trims that offered leather seats were the GTs and the 250T [I'm not counting Grandwagons or Lancasters])
-USDM cars did not get the grab handles in the later years...

Just a bunch of odd stuff for sure...
(We also noticed that the US cars got lights by the vanity mirrors. I thought that was cool)

[chuckthefuk]

my canadian GT BD9's have adjustable wipers.. (but i believe all canadian subarus are USDM feature spec)

[Dead91silvia]

my canadian GT BD9's have adjustable wipers.. (but i believe all canadian subarus are USDM feature spec)

If it was built in Indiana, they should be US spec, other then a few little things like maybe running lights. I know S13's in Canada had them, but we didnt.

It was mostly just the Limited that had the adjustable wipers. Some of the L's and LSi's I think I had them also, but not many.

[arumdevil]

I was of course referring to JDM models (or UK models where I mentioned) as I have no experience of USDM models at all (well, only one brief up-close encounter last may). I thought you were reffering to JDM above hence my replies.






ah sorry, wasn't sure hence why I made sure I said wagons :)

hansvonaxion, recognise that username ;)

What happened, you take a wrong turn and end up on the wrong side of the pond? :smt006

Well, my mother is american so I have dual citizenship, but that's really nothing to do with it as it happens. I was searching on google images for photos of GT-Bs, can't remember the exact search terms now but they brought me to this thread which I found interesting, and thought the OP might have a use for some parts from my old Limited, so I signed up. Total randomness :)

[Dead91silvia]

I was of course referring to JDM models (or UK models where I mentioned) as I have no experience of USDM models at all (well, only one brief up-close encounter last may). I thought you were reffering to JDM above hence my replies.






ah sorry, wasn't sure hence why I made sure I said wagons :)

hansvonaxion, recognise that username ;)

What happened, you take a wrong turn and end up on the wrong side of the pond? :smt006

Well, my mother is american so I have dual citizenship, but that's really nothing to do with it as it happens. I was searching on google images for photos of GT-Bs, can't remember the exact search terms now but they brought me to this thread which I found interesting, and thought the OP might have a use for some parts from my old Limited, so I signed up. Total randomness :)

Wrong turns are good! :smt023 I dont think we have too many people here from the UK....

And what parts do you have for that car anyway? I have most of what I need, but I'm just wondering. I also have a friend with a Wagon that might be interested. Last part I looking for right now is the sedan/saloon rear window with wiper... and maybe side trim... :grin:

[arumdevil]

most of the good stuff is gone, I have some parts stripped off for spares or sale. The rest of it's going to the scrapyard (junkyard) next week (long since overdue). It's a wagon (sedans/saloons were known as RS or RS-B rather than GT/GT-B) so I have a wiper but I'm sure it wouldn't fit a sedan rear window.

[hansvonaxion]

You have your avatar and sig up, looks like you're gonna stick around.
:smt023

I know someone who's after the plastic moulding on the doors (the one about halfway down) if you still have it.

[arumdevil]

yep still got that.... send me a PM with exact details of what and I'll be sure to get it off before the car is taken away (if I can get it off without damaging!)

[Dead91silvia]

yep still got that.... send me a PM with exact details of what and I'll be sure to get it off before the car is taken away (if I can get it off without damaging!)

HA! Thats my best friend thats trying to get the side trim! :smt005 I think he PMed you about it. To get it off is a pain, but not too bad. Most likely you will brake the clips, but thats not to big of a deal. Just make sure to slide a knife or something down the side and dont pull to it too far out. They will warp, but man that would be really cool! I'm kinda wanting some now!

If you still have:
-Fender side markers
-power folding mirrors
-trunk/boot badges
-front bumper
-tail lights and center
-side trim
-mud guards
-roof rails
-grill
-headlights
-seats

These are all parts people are looking for, if you had the time to pull off and ship, that would make a lot of happy Legacy owners over here! The rear wiper for the rear is different then a BD though... Sadly... I'm sure there might be some cool odd bits on the inside as well. Would you be interested?

Just an idea... Maybe make a few bucks and help some people get cool parts! :grin:

[camroncamera]

Arumdevil, could you show us a photo of the Dual-Fog Selector Switch? I'm looking to source a GT-B Limited Bumper and may be interested in your switch, though I'm not sure what it actually looks like.

EDIT: Found a picture in Reuben's thread (photo credit is his, I hope he will allow me to reproduce his image here):
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/IMG_55531-1.jpg

Photo originally found here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9872&start=60 (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9872&start=60)

[arumdevil]

yep that's the one. I'm afraid I already sold the switch to someone else on here..... :lol: :)

[arumdevil]

what are those clocks? not the OEM JDM clocks that's for sure. not GT-B ones anyway. Sti so I'm assuming impreza clocks.

[camroncamera]

yep that's the one. I'm afraid I already sold the switch to the OP of this thread. :)

Ah, thanks for the info!

[chuckthefuk]

STi impreza version 3/4 .. mechanical speedo... :-(

[Dead91silvia]

yep that's the one. I'm afraid I already sold the switch to the OP of this thread. :)

umm... that wasnt me... LOL... :roll:

[arumdevil]

yep that's the one. I'm afraid I already sold the switch to the OP of this thread. :)

umm... that wasnt me... LOL... :roll:

ah sorry man, and to think all this time I thought it was you....

:smt090

[Dead91silvia]

Nope. I was gonna get one from a guy in NZ but I ended up not. It's ok, I'm going to do something different anyway. :smt023

[phi11]

I was the one that bought the switch!

[camroncamera]

I have a GT-B Limited bumper on the way from Japan, woot! It's from the same ebay seller that Dead91silvia spotted selling Limited bumpers and various other GT-B stuff. As the JDM bumper beams are considerably lighter than those of USDM, I am interested in knowing if there is a way to "Frankenstein" a JDM Limited bumper cover over a USDM bumper beam in order to maintain the higher standard of crashworthiness of the USDM car. This is for my wife's daily driver LGT Wagon, and I am adamant about not downgrading the car's safety. (I briefly mention this scenario in Brad's '97 Legacy 2.5 GT wagon Member Rides thread. (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=23201&start=72))

If this were possible, I suspect that the stock GT bumper beam will not make a good fit to the Limited bumper cover, due in part to the different profile between the two designs. However, I wonder if perhaps the bumper beam of a Legacy Outback/SUS might make for a possible starting point for this fitment. The Outback bumper and the JDM GT-B Limited bumper have a very similar external profile. Mounting points for the JDM dual foglight brackets would have to be fabricated.



JDM GT-B Limited
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/DSCF0956-1.jpg

USDM Outback/SUS 96-99
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/01/IMG_4783-1.jpg

[chuckthefuk]

I can tell you from unfortunate experience that the front bar will not provide additional safety.. Its used for low impact bumper to bumper cost effective insurance methods..

I had a JDM bar and was involved in a head on collision with barely any issue from the impact since its not the bar that absorbs the energy its the crumple zones..

But to answer you question.. yes its possible to modify the USDM bar to accommodate the JDM bumper, however this will involve lots of grinding and possibly some re-welding. Overall they are the same shape they just happen to be made out of different thickness (jdm is lighter and thinner, usdm is heady and thicker)

When you get the bumper try a test fit... Majority of people who swap JDM bumpers go with the JDM bar since it weighs nothing and safety is an after thought.

-Chuck

[hansvonaxion]

True, I really don't think the bumper beam will be providing much (if any) real protection if the impact is serious enough to cause injury. It may help protect your radiator etc in a less serious collision though.

[chuckthefuk]

and the timing :-( all that money for bearings, belts, pulleys.. :-(

[hansvonaxion]

Tell me about it, just had my timing belt etc done, plus both inner CV boots... $1,800!

[camroncamera]

This is awesome feedback, thanks guys! :smt023

[camroncamera]

My Limited bumper is here!!!1! It's in beautiful shape! WOW!

Pics to come shortly!

[Dead91silvia]

Tell me about it, just had my timing belt etc done, plus both inner CV boots... $1,800!

Good God! :shock: I do 2.5 N/A belts and water pumps for about $1000 parts and labor! Axles are super easy to do also...


My Limited bumper is here!!!1! It's in beautiful shape! WOW!

Pics to come shortly!

Would love to see this! Post it up...

Also, about the bumper bars I do agree with the guys on this. In a head on, there will be more damage with the JDM one, but I really dont think that it will be life and death.

As for wight, I want to know what a limited bumper is off the car with all the fogs and what a USDM GT bumper is also. I think they wight about the same due to the lights.

[camroncamera]

My Limited bumper is here!!!1! It's in beautiful shape! WOW!

Pics to come shortly!
Would love to see this! Post it up...
Here are just a couple pics so that I don't clog up Dead91silvia's thread (additional pics on my Member Introduction Thread here (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?p=286366#p286366))
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/IMG_2060-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/IMG_2064-1.jpg

It's in AMAZING condition with just a couple scuffs and one broken face on the Limited round foglights (I already have a spare pair in perfect condition). All of this was disclosed in the auction before purchase. It is also missing the Limited badge that would be found on the bumper grille mesh.

Also, about the bumper bars I do agree with the guys on this. In a head on, there will be more damage with the JDM one, but I really dont think that it will be life and death.
As for weight, I want to know what a limited bumper is off the car with all the fogs and what a USDM GT bumper is also. I think they wight about the same due to the lights.
I just weighed the complete JDM Limited bumper with beam and dual fogs and it is exactly:
33.4 lbs / 15.15 kg.
I will try to get weights on the individual components (cover, JDM beam, foglights) and USDM bumper later.

[hansvonaxion]

I just weighed the complete JDM Limited bumper with beam and dual fogs and it is exactly:
33.4 lbs / 15.15 kg.
I will try to get weights on the individual components (cover, JDM beam, foglights) and USDM bumper later.

Thanks for that, nay come in handy in future.

[Dead91silvia]

I just weighed the complete JDM Limited bumper with beam and dual fogs and it is exactly:
33.4 lbs / 15.15 kg.
I will try to get weights on the individual components (cover, JDM beam, foglights) and USDM bumper later.

Thanks for that, nay come in handy in future.

Yeah, good stuff!

That badge shouldn't be too hard to come by. If you have to buy a grill at the same time, let me know, my buddy could use a nicer one.

I'm telling you guys, that place has good deals on big parts, and they are nice parts too!

[arumdevil]

I'm pretty sure I have a LIMITED badge somewhere, not sure I have the clips though. can have a look if you're interested. I took it off when I fitted the bumper to my GT-B as it's not 'really' a limited, but I don't object to anyone else fitting it :D

[camroncamera]

I'm pretty sure I have a LIMITED badge somewhere, not sure I have the clips though. can have a look if you're interested. I took it off when I fitted the bumper to my GT-B as it's not 'really' a limited, but I don't object to anyone else fitting it :D
Heck yeah, I'm interested! :smt023 I spied some of your other GT-B items for sale on UKLegacy.com awhile back, has everything sold?

[arumdevil]

the shell was taken away last friday, but I still have a few bits and pieces, including the badge (ummmm, now where did I put that?!?), sideskirts, rear bumper skin, JDM front subaru badge, GT badge (no bilstein badge), I have a Limited bumper too although it's sustained some damage so needs repair and it's only the plastic part, the metal backing and brackets are on my car.

[Dead91silvia]

the shell was taken away last friday, but I still have a few bits and pieces, including the badge (ummmm, now where did I put that?!?), sideskirts, rear bumper skin, JDM front subaru badge, GT badge (no bilstein badge), I have a Limited bumper too although it's sustained some damage so needs repair and it's only the plastic part, the metal backing and brackets are on my car.

That sounds like some good stuff right there...

Not sure if you ever did see the car I have I started the tread for... Almost done with parts needed...
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=19150 (http://www.sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=19150)

Funny thing is, the JDM "GT" badge for the BG is the same for the USDM BH.

How bad is that Limited bumper you have? Any pics? I know Matty2hotty is looking for one, or at least was...

[arumdevil]

no I never saw that thread, nice job. Hahah, you put it on a saloon (sedan). I'm 99.9% sure they never had a sedan version of the Limited, only the wagon, Still, looks much better with all that JDM goodness on :)

The bumper isn't toooo bad, ie it's repairable but needs some attention. The bottom splitter has, um, split off and there's a few bugles and splits etc. I still have the splitter so it's mainly a case of heating it up and straightening it out and then grafting the splitter back on.

This photo show's with the splitter missing:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/IMG_4270-1.jpg

and these show better closeups of the other damage:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/IMG_2769-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/IMG_2770-1.jpg

[Dead91silvia]

Thanks and you are right, they never had them on saloon's. Oh, I'm also a vintage Volvo guy, I know the term saloon well... haha

That bumper took a good hit! not sure how much it's worth with that amount of damage though. The last 2 guys got on here were under $400 shipped with fogs... I paid too much for mine, but what ever... haha

[Reuben]

Lol, I was doing some googling and happened upon this thread, forgive the bump. I do find it funny chuck, saying saftey is an afterthought with the JDM bumper bars!!! Just cause the rules are different!! You insult people with stock JDM cars :P (just giving yah shit/joking ;))

Anyway, the woodgrain BG trim bits.... Anyone have more info on that? I'm after some BC/BF woodgrain trim bits, to restore my girlfriends BF, that came with a whole heap factory, but only a few remnants remain... Was that stuff bought new like that, or is that a woodgrain vinyl on top of factory trim? Please tell me it's the latter!!!

[Reuben]

Also, Dead91silvia, just to tripple confirm, Ltd's were wagon only, so you're making something that's pretty unique!!!

Any pics you do find of sedans with Ltd bumpers, I can gurantee you, those pumpers were put on after they rolled off the factory floor!!!

Also, I'll add to the pool of knowledge. Limiteds were essentially almost identical to standard BG5C GTB's, and i'm pretty sure they got the same seat fabric etc, and same rear cupholders as normal GTB's. There's something else to note, they were C rev only, meaning, late 97 till early 98, only. GTB's have been around since the B rev, in late 1996. The different seat fabric and arm rest holders was a BG5C vs BG5B thing, and not a GTB Ltd. vs GTB thing. And it's the same case with the black woodgrain effect trim, again, BG5C, not Ltd.

Also, things such as sunroofs, the moulded mudflaps, the woodgrain momo, were all optional. My Ltd. didn't come with the woodgrain momo, because it was optioned with dual airbags, meaning it got the special dual airbag momo, which is quite different to the single airbag momo, and the dual airbag wasn't avail in woodgrain. But, beast did come with the woodgrain momo shift knob, which i flicked in favour of the red stitching leather STi knob. My Ltd. also lacks the mudflaps and sunroof (as desired, i hate sunroofs, they add weight, leaks, and potential rust spots)(but i'd love the mudflaps)

And some technical knowledge for you, the GTB Limited applied model code was "BG5C5ED", which interestingly enough is an "STi" applied model number, "5ED" was the model code for STi wagons. "4ED" for sedans. There was never an STi BG, unlike every other generation of legacy, so a Limited is essentially as close as once can get to an STi BG. Do note, they had identical engines to the standard BG5C GTB's, so they aren't up on power or anything, it's purely applied model number bragging rights, that's all. Btw, standard GTB's were "BG5C5CD"

As for interior stuff, have a look here. "Power Concent" was an option too btw, not a standard Ltd part. "Power Concent" is basically an inbuilt power inverter, offering a jap/us plug at 100v/100w, and an additional lighter socket, the inverter lives in a box under the front passenger seat.

http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa20 ... 0interior/ (http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa208/Pilot_Reuben/GTB%20interior/)

Oh, one last thing to clear up, the little black square between the map lights has nothing to do with alarms, AFAIK, no BG came from factory with an alarm! It's keyless entry, it's the infrared receiver for the factory key fob. point key at square, click button, car is unlocked... It was also used to reset the keyless keyless entry. You could set a code with the door handles, like, 2, 4, 1, 3, for example. Lift handle 2 times, pause and wait for beep, 4 times, pause-beep, 1 time, pause-beep, 3 times, pause-beeeeeeeeep, the car unlocks. You needed the infrared key to set your personal code, it's on my shopping list of things to get!!! (i received my GTB with only the spare key)(a new key from subaru is like $300, but I WILL get one!!!).

[Reuben]

And some pics for yah.

(these first two are from 4-5 years ago, when beast was only a 9 year old!)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/IMG_4883-2.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/IMG_4875-2.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/IMG_8174-2.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/IMG_8178-2.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/IMG_4941-2.jpg

Single vs dual airbag momo's for 96-98 (including impreza - N/A impreza's for the single, WRX's and STi's got the dual - version 4 only!)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/IMG_5118-2.jpg

[Yamazaki]

There were four (eight if you double the amount for A/T) options with the GT-B ltd.
1) Sunroof
2) Dual airbag
3) Premium audio
4) Nothing extra
5) All of them came with ABS and the "winter package"

[arumdevil]

what was the winter package?

[Reuben]

Heater strips under the wipers for melting frost and heated wing mirrors.

[Dead91silvia]

Good stuff! This is what i'm talking about! This thread is for all the details.

Any more pics of these other wheels and the keys? I was wondring if they had a cool JDM key. They did some cool stuff with Nissan keys.

Also, what are all the color's they had?

Info on all the other models is also welcome. such as...
-Grand Wagon
-RS
-TSR
ect....

[Reuben]

You may be interested in this 91sivl....

http://a15ff11300g.sakura.ne.jp/catalog ... wagon.html (http://a15ff11300g.sakura.ne.jp/catalogue/BDBGlegacy/97.9%20legacy%20touringwagon/97.9%20legacy%20touringwagon.html)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/97920legacy20touringwagon05-2.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/97920legacy20touringwagon20-2.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/97920legacy20touringwagon21-2.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/97920legacy20touringwagon24-2.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/97920legacy20touringwagon25-2.jpg


Note the brochures seem to indicate the GTB and GT did indeed get the older darker seat trim, and the LTD the newer lighter one, but in reality, MOST of the BG5C standard GTB's have had the same light trim as my Ltd.

[Reuben]

Oh, and standard stuff that was available on pretty much all GT's, GTB's, TS-R's, 250T's etc.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/97920legacy20touringwagon19-2.jpg

[Dead91silvia]

Damn it, I hate side scrolling... LOL

Call me crazy... I'm have been in love with that Twinky Yellow for a long time! hahaha

[camroncamera]

USDM Sedan and Wagon
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/IMG_6210-1.jpg

JDM Wagon
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/DSCF1258-1.jpg
So Dead... how easy do you suppose it would be to make an add-on bit for a USDM GT rear wagon bumper lip to give it a JDM GT-B rear bumper look? The JDM GT-B bumper lip has a bit of a protrusion at the rear to give it a sportier look, but the lip and bumper itself are molded as one piece together, making it impossible to simply replace only the lip on a USDM bumper... one must replace the entire USDM rear bumper with a JDM GT-B bumper.

What about a replacement reproduction JDM-look lip or "adapter" that fits over the USDM GT wagon bumper lip? Bonded on with 3M tape, etc.? Could something like this be easily made? Suppose an aftermarket part for sale could be easily manufactured? Seems silly to replace the whole bumper when it's only the rear of the lip that looks any different between the USDM and JDM models.

[Yamazaki]

So Dead... how easy do you suppose it would be to make an add-on bit for a USDM GT rear wagon bumper lip to give it a JDM GT-B rear bumper look? The JDM GT-B bumper lip has a bit of a protrusion at the rear to give it a sportier look, but the lip and bumper itself are molded as one piece together, making it impossible to simply replace only the lip on a USDM bumper... one must replace the entire USDM rear bumper with a JDM GT-B bumper.

What about a replacement reproduction JDM-look lip or "adapter" that fits over the USDM GT wagon bumper lip? Bonded on with 3M tape, etc.? Could something like this be easily made? Suppose an aftermarket part for sale could be easily manufactured? Seems silly to replace the whole bumper when it's only the rear of the lip that looks any different between the USDM and JDM models.
You could find a lip like the one I put on a Brighton (same as US bumper) here: viewtopic.php?p=232497#p232497 (http://www.sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?p=232497#p232497)

[arumdevil]

I have a spare JDM bumper, BUT: 1) it's got a small cutout where the tow-hitch passed through, and 2) it's silver, 3) it's probably going to be expensive to ship to the US from UK...

[Dead91silvia]

ags18 found one from a guy in CA for like $100 shipped, I think.

I also have his car at my shop and I'm sure I can get Red85celica to bring his BK over to compare the difference.

I have looked at the JDM and USDM for BD's and I cant justify getting a JDM one, they are the same. or at least look the same.

[ags18]

Did some good digging around today and founds some goodies!

My main goal was looking for Parking/Bumper Pole info and locations so I can use it on my wagon. Here is some of the good stuff I found! Too many B4's to post...in g-damn Japan they are selling for $1-$2K (for BG's) and $3-5K (for BH's..even B4's). I'm going to abuse the living S#!t out of the 25 year rule here in the US...it hurts to have to wait. :/

BG STUFF:

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/185186_687282932994_1625109726_n.jpg
*1 piece headlights but, pretty much the same as the 95-97 USDM ones
*Parking/Bumper Pole
*Black "L7" Logo Mesh Grill

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/247744_687282942974_1564800365_n.jpg
Soo much win back here!
*Red and Clear Tails
*3rd Brake Light in Trunk Lid
*Rear Window with Wiper! (Dead91Silvia...sorry to frustrate you even more! I know you are trying not to think about this mod cause it is so fragile and hard to come by.)

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/644697_687283057744_1915968579_n.jpg
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/581569_687283067724_1641430399_n.jpg
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/267752_687283027804_1826011756_n.jpg
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/389376_687283012834_1720161946_n.jpg
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/602410_687282957944_2007549072_n.jpg
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/197411_687282982894_1310956598_n.jpg
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/409335_687288826184_2075893097_n.jpg

[aalam]

Pictures are clearly describe that how beautifully they use to capture these pictures. No one car is particularly design for an executive look which I can reveal. Anyway these have their own display and seeming nice.
Actually I am looking for luxury car.

[AdamH]

...Any pics you do find of sedans with Ltd bumpers, I can gurantee you, those pumpers were put on after they rolled off the factory floor!!!


Although they never made a Limited version of the BD5 RS, the BD5C was offered with the additional Limited-style fog lights as a factory fitted optional extra, and cars with this option had the same front bumper as the Limited. The only difference was the "Limited" badge was not fitted to the black mesh grille in the bottom corner.

My friend Tom has one of these cars and having looked closely it is clear it was fitted at the factory as the wiring for the additional fog lights is part of main loom and runs through the main fuse box.

http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/04.png

OK, the wheels, brakes and yellow tint of the fogs are not standard, but the rest is how it came!

[Dead91silvia]

Now thats interesting...

I dont think I ever posted a pic of my BD as she ended up after I started this thread....

This is my USDM 98 BD 2.5GT
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/04/IMG_9407-1.jpg

[AdamH]

I have another friend (paul) who has a BD5B RS in white. That car came with the standard bumper from the factory but he has since fitted the Limited bumper and extra fog lights himself. He has also painted the centre section on the bumper to black and it looks amazing contrasting the white. You should try that!

I will try to find a photo...

Edit: This is the only photo I can find. I'll be seeing him next week so I'll try to get a better one.

http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/05.jpg

[Dead91silvia]

I have thought of doing the black thing, but I cant sell myself on it.

Could you maybe get some rear shots of that car though? Since I own a JDM GT-B now the front stuff is easy to get, but would be great to have some detail pics of the rear interior and everything else.

[AdamH]

Paul's car will be useless for interior shots... He has fitted Impreza seats, front and rear, and the carpets are from a BPE 3.0R Spec-B. To my surprise it works quit well but it's a long way from being standard!

I know several people with a BD5 RS, what exactly are you looking for as I should be able to get photos from one of them?

[Sub-Goon]

Wow! There's some great info in here! Personally, I'd like to find get some of the usual suspects for my Outback (JDM fender markers & tails; maybe even projectors) and some of the interior pieces (console w/6 switch openings, shifter console w/trap door, door panels w/grabhandles).... nothing as major as some of you are going! Hell, there's even USDM GT stuff that I'm looking to put on (door courtesy lights, leather Momo wheel, leather auto handle, leather P-brake)

BTW, nice cars guys!

[Bip]

Hi everyone, I am Tom and i own the Cashmere yellow RS with the limited front bumper.

I can confirm Subaru never made a limited saloon, however, they did have the optional extra front fog lights which meant they had to fit the limited bumper without the limited badge.

I will get some more photos today and post them up later.

[couchfuzzy]

^yes!

[chuckthefuk]

Yay!! more rarenesss!!

[Sub-Goon]

I keep seeing people post a number next to the BD/BG/BK etc, Like above and havent been able to find any explaination of what these numbers mean.... My VIN plate shows BG5 or BG6, if I recall.... Please direct me where to locate this info, so as to not siderail this thread! Thanks!

[Dead91silvia]

Hi everyone, I am Tom and i own the Cashmere yellow RS with the limited front bumper.

I can confirm Subaru never made a limited saloon, however, they did have the optional extra front fog lights which meant they had to fit the limited bumper without the limited badge.

I will get some more photos today and post them up later.

AWESOME! Great info! Looking forward to more pics!

Cant help but notice the mods in your sig... Is there a good UK forum? Figuring out how to tune a EJ20R for more power in a country that never got them is not easy... haha

And welcome! :smt023

[chuckthefuk]

I keep seeing people post a number next to the BD/BG/BK etc, Like above and havent been able to find any explaination of what these numbers mean.... My VIN plate shows BG5 or BG6, if I recall.... Please direct me where to locate this info, so as to not siderail this thread! Thanks!

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/vin.html

But for your model the 5 = 2.0ltr turbo | 7 = 2.2ltr non-turbo | 9 = 2.5ltr non turbo

[Bip]

Hi everyone, I am Tom and i own the Cashmere yellow RS with the limited front bumper.

I can confirm Subaru never made a limited saloon, however, they did have the optional extra front fog lights which meant they had to fit the limited bumper without the limited badge.

I will get some more photos today and post them up later.

AWESOME! Great info! Looking forward to more pics!

Cant help but notice the mods in your sig... Is there a good UK forum? Figuring out how to tune a EJ20R for more power in a country that never got them is not easy... haha

And welcome! :smt023

Yes I am also a member of UKLegacy.com. Another great friendly forum. :smt023

[Bip]

By the way, I took some pictures today. I just need to upload them and I will post them soon.

[AdamH]

I keep seeing people post a number next to the BD/BG/BK etc, Like above and havent been able to find any explaination of what these numbers mean.... My VIN plate shows BG5 or BG6, if I recall.... Please direct me where to locate this info, so as to not siderail this thread! Thanks!

As said above, it's the first part of the Applied Model Code which is found on your VIN plate and identifies which model you have. Unlike the VIN number, it just codes details of the car's spec and does not identify each individual car.

If you have a JDM car, most of the codes are programmed into this [LINK HERE] (http://http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/technical/appliedmodel.php) website so it will show you what you have. Not many codes of USDM cars though.

[camroncamera]

Cant help but notice the mods in your sig... Is there a good UK forum? Figuring out how to tune a EJ20R for more power in a country that never got them is not easy... haha

And welcome! :smt023

Yes I am also a member of UKLegacy.com. Another great friendly forum. :smt023

I am in the US and I've been a member of UKLegacy.com for a year or so... Once in a while a UKLegacy.com classifieds parts seller will ship JDM parts to the US and usually the selling price is substantially lower than what you'd find for the same part coming from overseas on ebay.

[Bip]

Here are the pictures I promised earlier.

http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/01.png

The rear wiper
http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/02.png

Electric aerial
http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/03.png

http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/04.png

Notice my rear view camera, it's a replacement unit for the number plate light. It has lights in it so I don't loose illumination on the plate.
http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/05.png

http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/06.png

The brushed effect trim
http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/07.png

Stainless sill covers
http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/08.png

http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/09.png

http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/10.png

http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/11.png

http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/13.png

http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/14.png

I know I said Subaru never made a limited saloon but I managed to acquire a limited badge and fitted it because I like the way it looks. :cool:
http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/15.png

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/04/16png-1.jpg

AdamH asked me to post this pic to show off his wheels and 8 pot brakes. :smt023
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/07/17png-1.jpg

[Sub-Goon]

I keep seeing people post a number next to the BD/BG/BK etc, Like above and havent been able to find any explaination of what these numbers mean.... My VIN plate shows BG5 or BG6, if I recall.... Please direct me where to locate this info, so as to not siderail this thread! Thanks!

[quote="Sub-Goon":1h10pj63]I keep seeing people post a number next to the BD/BG/BK etc, Like above and havent been able to find any explaination of what these numbers mean.... My VIN plate shows BG5 or BG6, if I recall.... Please direct me where to locate this info, so as to not siderail this thread! Thanks!

http://www.cars101.com/subaru/vin.html

But for your model the 5 = 2.0ltr turbo | 7 = 2.2ltr non-turbo | 9 = 2.5ltr non turbo


As said above, it's the first part of the Applied Model Code which is found on your VIN plate and identifies which model you have. Unlike the VIN number, it just codes details of the car's spec and does not identify each individual car.

If you have a JDM car, most of the codes are programmed into this [LINK HERE] (http://http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/technical/appliedmodel.php) website so it will show you what you have. Not many codes of USDM cars though.[/quote:1h10pj63]

Thanks guys for the quick answers! Confirmed Vin as a BG6, which the above link states as either 2.2l or 2.5l. Now I know just a lil more!

[chuckthefuk]

Ouch dead91silvia. Yama is going to have a fit... Its the "identification plate" not vin plate. And the model is not in the vin itself . its in the model section
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/04/readme_appliedgif-1.jpg

[Sub-Goon]

Here are the pictures I promised earlier.

http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/16.png

That looks really nice! If someone told me they were going to put red wheels on a yellow car I would have laughed, but it looks amazing!

[Bip]

That looks really nice! If someone told me they were going to put red wheels on a yellow car I would have laughed, but it looks amazing!

Thanks! :grin:

These pictures don't show the wheels very well but they are OZ Racing Superleggera's in orange.

I always loved the look of the Superleggera wheels but were always just out of my price range until these came along in orange. I guess the colour put a lot of people off, plus they were missing the centre caps which I have since replaced. I originally bought them with the intention of refurbishing them in black. But before I did, I fitted them on the car to make sure there was enough clearance over the 4 pot brakes and the wheels were not buckled or bent. I didn't like how bright they were when I first fitted them, but over the next couple of weeks the look really grew on me so they have stayed the way they are. :grin:

Here's a pic I took of them not long after I bought them.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/04/4DB670089DD14ED495C3DC6B499749ED53270000-1.jpg

[hansvonaxion]

Did you spell your name wrong?

[Sub-Goon]

That looks really nice! If someone told me they were going to put red wheels on a yellow car I would have laughed, but it looks amazing!

Thanks! :grin:

These pictures don't show the wheels very well but they are OZ Racing Superleggera's in orange.

I always loved the look of the Superleggera wheels but were always just out of my price range until these came along in orange. I guess the colour put a lot of people off, plus they were missing the centre caps which I have since replaced. I originally bought them with the intention of refurbishing them in black. But before I did, I fitted them on the car to make sure there was enough clearance over the 4 pot brakes and the wheels were not buckled or bent. I didn't like how bright they were when I first fitted them, but over the next couple of weeks the look really grew on me so they have stayed the way they are. :grin:

Here's a pic I took of them not long after I bought them.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/04/4DB670089DD14ED495C3DC6B499749ED53270000-1.jpg

I can see it as orange much better there! Between monitors and cameras both having poor color balance and yellow and red/oranges being hard to tune right, it sometimes real difficult to represent them correctly! Looks good!

[Dead91silvia]

Hi everyone, I am Tom and i own the Cashmere yellow RS with the limited front bumper.

I can confirm Subaru never made a limited saloon, however, they did have the optional extra front fog lights which meant they had to fit the limited bumper without the limited badge.

I will get some more photos today and post them up later.

AWESOME! Great info! Looking forward to more pics!

Cant help but notice the mods in your sig... Is there a good UK forum? Figuring out how to tune a EJ20R for more power in a country that never got them is not easy... haha

And welcome! :smt023

Yes I am also a member of UKLegacy.com. Another great friendly forum. :smt023

I just tried joining... Apparently they do like me... :smt022 ... Keep getting re-directed to UK.Police! :smt005

[Bip]

:smt005

Thats very strange. Never heard of it directing people elsewhere.

[camroncamera]

I just tried joining... Apparently they do like me... :smt022 ... Keep getting re-directed to UK.Police! :smt005

:smt005 Thats very strange. Never heard of it directing people elsewhere.

Check you browser cookies. They may need to be eaten. (BTW, are "browser cookies" called "browser biscuits" in the UK? :smt005 )

[Dead91silvia]

I just tried joining... Apparently they do like me... :smt022 ... Keep getting re-directed to UK.Police! :smt005

:smt005 Thats very strange. Never heard of it directing people elsewhere.

Check you browser cookies. They may need to be eaten. (BTW, are "browser cookies" called "browser biscuits" in the UK? :smt005 )

WTF...?! Eaten??? What the hell does that mean!?

Still wont work. I get to making the screen name and try to go to confirmation, and then I get sent to the Police... :-( I dont want to go to Police...

[Bip]

Try this as a link

http://www.uklegacy.com/forums/

[Dead91silvia]

Try this as a link

http://www.uklegacy.com/forums/

Still not working... sad..

[Bip]

That is very strange, have you tried using a different Internet browser?

[Dead91silvia]

That is very strange, have you tried using a different Internet browser?

Yep, just tried it.. 99% of the time I use Firefox, but tried using Internet Explorer. No go... :smt017

[Bip]

Have you tried using another device?

[Dead91silvia]

No, but my phone is a pain when it comes to that stuff..

[camroncamera]

My Limited bumper is here!!!1! It's in beautiful shape! WOW!

Pics to come shortly!
Would love to see this! Post it up...
Here are just a couple pics so that I don't clog up Dead91silvia's thread (additional pics on my Member Introduction Thread here (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?p=286366#p286366))
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/IMG_2060-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/IMG_2064-1.jpg

It's in AMAZING condition with just a couple scuffs and one broken face on the Limited round foglights (I already have a spare pair in perfect condition). All of this was disclosed in the auction before purchase. It is also missing the Limited badge that would be found on the bumper grille mesh.

Also, about the bumper bars I do agree with the guys on this. In a head on, there will be more damage with the JDM one, but I really dont think that it will be life and death.
As for weight, I want to know what a limited bumper is off the car with all the fogs and what a USDM GT bumper is also. I think they wight about the same due to the lights.
I just weighed the complete JDM Limited bumper with beam and dual fogs and it is exactly:
33.4 lbs / 15.15 kg.
I will try to get weights on the individual components (cover, JDM beam, foglights) and USDM bumper later.

Sorry, slightly off-topic
Dead and Thom - and any other bodyshop buds - what sort of estimates should I expect to get this white bumper painted Black Granite Pearl to match the wife's wagon? Portland, OR / Vancouver, WA market. I need to get this thing installed already. Kind of a shame to paint over it it's in such great shape! Maybe Dead and Red85 you two can work something out where I straight trade for Red's Black Granite Pearl Limited bumper and Dead gets a lovely factory white Limited bumper for his JDM RHD Leggy :) Not sure how Red makes out on that one, though lol.

[wentz912]

Here are the pictures I promised earlier.



AdamH asked me to post this pic to show off his wheels and 8 pot brakes. :smt023
http://scoobyprojects.co.uk/forumpics/bip/17.png




I can't really be the only one that noticed this, can I?

[srt6]

Where did you get the rear telescoping net?!?!?! I want one so bad for my legacy

[MarkSubi]

Anyone on here think they can help me get ahold of a GT-B or GT-B limited front bumper, JDM projector headlights, and a JDM grill.

[MarkSubi]

My Limited bumper is here!!!1! It's in beautiful shape! WOW!

Pics to come shortly!
Would love to see this! Post it up...
Here are just a couple pics so that I don't clog up Dead91silvia's thread (additional pics on my Member Introduction Thread here (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?p=286366#p286366))
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/IMG_2060-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/IMG_2064-1.jpg

It's in AMAZING condition with just a couple scuffs and one broken face on the Limited round foglights (I already have a spare pair in perfect condition). All of this was disclosed in the auction before purchase. It is also missing the Limited badge that would be found on the bumper grille mesh.

Also, about the bumper bars I do agree with the guys on this. In a head on, there will be more damage with the JDM one, but I really dont think that it will be life and death.
As for weight, I want to know what a limited bumper is off the car with all the fogs and what a USDM GT bumper is also. I think they wight about the same due to the lights.
I just weighed the complete JDM Limited bumper with beam and dual fogs and it is exactly:
33.4 lbs / 15.15 kg.
I will try to get weights on the individual components (cover, JDM beam, foglights) and USDM bumper later.

Sorry, slightly off-topic
Dead and Thom - and any other bodyshop buds - what sort of estimates should I expect to get this white bumper painted Black Granite Pearl to match the wife's wagon? Portland, OR / Vancouver, WA market. I need to get this thing installed already. Kind of a shame to paint over it it's in such great shape! Maybe Dead and Red85 you two can work something out where I straight trade for Red's Black Granite Pearl Limited bumper and Dead gets a lovely factory white Limited bumper for his JDM RHD Leggy :) Not sure how Red makes out on that one, though lol.





I need this :smt007

[Dead91silvia]

There is one floating around on the forum (GT-B Limited bumper), but it's upwards of $650+.

The other parts are pretty easy to get.

[srt6]

I just bought a pair of jdm headlights 200 shipped from Japan on ebay. Came with pigtails and all very good condition.

[camroncamera]

USDM Sedan and Wagon
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/IMG_6210-1.jpg

JDM Wagon
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/DSCF1258-1.jpg
So Dead... how easy do you suppose it would be to make an add-on bit for a USDM GT rear wagon bumper lip to give it a JDM GT-B rear bumper look? The JDM GT-B bumper lip has a bit of a protrusion at the rear to give it a sportier look, but the lip and bumper itself are molded as one piece together, making it impossible to simply replace only the lip on a USDM bumper... one must replace the entire USDM rear bumper with a JDM GT-B bumper.

What about a replacement reproduction JDM-look lip or "adapter" that fits over the USDM GT wagon bumper lip? Bonded on with 3M tape, etc.? Could something like this be easily made? Suppose an aftermarket part for sale could be easily manufactured? Seems silly to replace the whole bumper when it's only the rear of the lip that looks any different between the USDM and JDM models.

Today I finally got a JDM GT-B wagon rear bumper with the fancy integrated lower lip. The plastic is in good shape, but I will probably need to completely strip off the original paint and start from scratch for prep and paint. It would still be cool if there were a way to make a JDM-style lower lip replica to fit USDM GT wagon bumpers. I've included some reference photos from the inside area to see how the bumper and lip are all molded together as one piece:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/02/IMG_9318_zps28bf07d1-1.jpg (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/camroncamera/media/IMG_9318_zps28bf07d1.jpg.html)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/02/IMG_9317_zps922ac31a-1.jpg (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/camroncamera/media/IMG_9317_zps922ac31a.jpg.html)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/02/IMG_9319_zps6bf9e24b-1.jpg (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/camroncamera/media/IMG_9319_zps6bf9e24b.jpg.html)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/02/IMG_9315_zpsa29d998e-1.jpg (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/camroncamera/media/IMG_9315_zpsa29d998e.jpg.html)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/02/IMG_9308_zps8d02e320-1.jpg (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/camroncamera/media/IMG_9308_zps8d02e320.jpg.html)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/02/IMG_9310_zpsb7110f79-1.jpg (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/camroncamera/media/IMG_9310_zpsb7110f79.jpg.html)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/02/IMG_9311_zps84eadb2a-1.jpg (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/camroncamera/media/IMG_9311_zps84eadb2a.jpg.html)

[betterforeign1]

Wow that plane white one had the same rime mine does!

[Dead91silvia]

I'm working on a much more up to date and less cluttered thread to replace this one. Lots of good info here, but a little hard to understand... Please feel free to add more info to this one though! The more info, the better. ;)