Where to find the elusive JDM headlight connector? FOUND! [Archive]

camroncamera

03-17-2012, 10:59 PM

EDIT: Complete 2nd-gen '95-'99 Legacy JDM headlight conversion harnesses now available!:
DIY JDM Headlight Installation with JDM Harness Adapters page is HERE (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/showthread.php?15992-USDM-to-JDM-Headlight-Adapter-Harness-Official-Install-Guide). Questions and comments on the install and the product itself are encouraged in that thread :)

The JDM Headlight Adapter purchase signup page is HERE. (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=25573)

Thanks!

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As originally posted Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:59 pm:

I installed JDM projector headlights last year into our BK wagon and I love them. However, even though both headlights were complete from the bulbs to the female JDM plugs on the fixtures, for whatever reason I was only supplied with one of the two female connectors and pigtails that was snipped from the original JDM vehicle. This seems to be common from the threads I've read on JDM headlight installs.

It wasn't a show-stopper, and I was able to make do by wiring my projectors using insulated quick-disconnect terminals. However, I did very reluctantly have to snip off my stock USDM 9007 connectors in order to perform this mod. (I've since found out that male 9007 plugs are available; here is one: http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1409 )

The past few weeks hansvonaxian (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=15659), based in Japan, has been so kind as to look for JDM parts for me and others. I asked him specifically about this elusive car-side JDM headlight connector. He told me that this Subaru part at the dealership is listed only as a whole wiring harness, and that the plug itself was not available separately. I've searched these forums and have seen several others ask about the plug as well, but no one seems to know where to get replacements without buying another whole set of lights. I'm wondering if we can once and for all solve the mystery of where to find this connector.

Here are a few closeups of the one connector I did receive with my JDM lights:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/IMG_1742-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/IMG_1741-1.jpg

It is actually two parts - a white plastic housing, and a black plastic retainer (removed in this photo) for the terminals.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/IMG_1853-1.jpg

Although the plastic plug itself appears to be "male", it houses female terminals:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/IMG_1860-1.jpg

Just to clarify, this is the car-side JDM headlight plug. Or, in other words, the plug that would be "permanently" wired into the JDM vehicle that donated the light fixtures. My JDM headlight fixtures themselves both came complete with the female end of this type of connector. It is the male end that myself and other are often missing.

Here also is a closeup of the I.D. markings on this male plug:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/IMG_1863-1.jpg
"SJO" or SJD? (manufacturer, maybe?), then "A-12 MO4FW"

Could we find another source of these plugs - new or used? It seems that common auto parts stores in the US cannot get them, but maybe it is only a matter of part ID?
Could we determine the manufacturer of this plug, if not Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru Japan)? It does not have the FHI logo so I kind of doubt that it is made by Subaru itself.
Would there by any USDM vehicles - Subaru or otherwise - that uses these connectors? Possibly sitting in a junkyard near you?
Would there be any other JDM vehicles - Subaru or otherwise - that uses these connectors?
Would common auto parts stores in Japan carry these connectors, in the way that a US parts store commonly carries replacement 9007 plugs?

Finding an alternate source of these plugs would go a long way towards being able to easily make USDM->JDM adapter harnesses and eliminate the need to permanently cut on our stock wiring.

Thanks all for helping solve the mystery of the JDM headlight connector!

Huffer

03-17-2012, 11:58 PM

That actually looks like a fairly common connector found elsewhere on the Subaru harness..?

hansvonaxion

03-18-2012, 03:35 AM

This it?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/hansvonaxion/Parts/c2953496.jpg

Google is your friend.

The number M04FW I believe is;

M - M type connector
04 - 4 pin
F - Female
W - White?

Looks like there's a Nissan harness repair kit (for Altima, maybe 240sx) available for about $10 that includes the plugs?

Part code: 24342R
Part number: B4344-0CFW0
Part name: CONNECTOR ASSY-HARNESS REPAIR, 4P

http://www.courtesyparts.com/images/u13u/u13u_240-6.gif

As above, 1m Relay, also...

F/RR COMBINATION LAMP
F/LICENSE LAMP

Link (http://www.nissanpartszone.com/components/1997-nissan-quest_wiring-240-1489_8.html)

Like I said, these things are going to be generic parts.

I think I found a manufacturer here but it looks to me like you could source them over there, no?

camroncamera

03-18-2012, 11:34 AM

This it?

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/

Google is your friend.

WOOT WOOT WOOT! Google was not my friend but it sure was yours! Nice job Hans!

The number M04FW I believe is;

M - M type connector
04 - 4 pin
F - Female
W - White?

Looks like there's a Nissan harness repair kit (for Altima, maybe 240sx) available for about $10 that includes the plugs?

Part code: 24342R
Part number: B4344-0CFW0
Part name: CONNECTOR ASSY-HARNESS REPAIR, 4P

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/

As above, 1m Relay, also...

F/RR COMBINATION LAMP
F/LICENSE LAMP

Link (http://www.nissanpartszone.com/components/1997-nissan-quest_wiring-240-1489_8.html)

Sa-weet! Now I've got something to take to my local parts shops to see what they can source from this info!

Like I said, these things are going to be generic parts.

I think I found a manufacturer here but it looks to me like you could source them over there, no?

It looks like one manufacturer is Sumitomo Wiring Systems (http://www.sws.co.jp/en/index.html) and Yazaki Corporation (http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp/english/index.html) is another.

http://www.qcomponents.com/search-resul ... =6101-5041 (http://www.qcomponents.com/search-results.aspx?ext=1&part=6101-5041)
http://www.sumitomoconnector.com/index.html
http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/2 ... 44d33d29b0 (http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/25060mm-housings-c-19_567_568_575_576.html?zenid=fe18ea452a4449086ee00644d33d29b0)
http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/u ... _1305.html (http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/unsealed-m-type-housings-c-198_376_944_1296_1305.html)
http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/Y ... -8053.html (http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/Yazaki-58-Connectors-Unsealed-M-Type-4-Position-Female-Housing-Natural-p-8053.html)
http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/s ... -9157.html (http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/sumitomo-58-series-25060mm-4-position-female-housing-white-p-9157.html)

It does not surprise me one bit that there are other vehicles with this connector out there, but it's nice to get confirmation that they are found on at least one or two USDM vehicles. I hope to report back in a couple days if any of the parts stores in the US scan easily get these repair harness, and I'll do some further Google searching to see if I can find the connector by itself through any auto electrical suppliers as well.

Nice job, Hans, thanks again as always!

camroncamera

03-18-2012, 11:38 AM

That actually looks like a fairly common connector found elsewhere on the Subaru harness..?

I don't recall seeing any in the engine bay when I pulled the engine to do the headgaskets last year on my USDM BK. Is there somewhere specific within the vehicle I should have a look?

camroncamera

03-18-2012, 02:10 PM

Sumitomo 58 series 250(6.0mm) 4 Position Female Housing [White]
Part No. 6101-5041
http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/en/ho ... 6101504158 (http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/en/housing.asp?number_s=6101504158)
http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/s ... 68_575_576 (http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/sumitomo-58-series-25060mm-4-position-female-housing-white-p-9157.html?cPath=19_567_568_575_576)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/9157-1.jpg

Stopper/Retainer (only) for Sumitomo Socket:
Part No. 6918-0075

Yazaki 58 Connectors Unsealed M Type 4 Position Female Housing [Natural]
Part No. 7123-6040 (or PH571-04020 ?)
http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp ... &select=05 (http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp/yazaki-web/servlet/SubServlet_e?forward=7123-6040&plist=list&select=05)
http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/Y ... -8053.html (http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/Yazaki-58-Connectors-Unsealed-M-Type-4-Position-Female-Housing-Natural-p-8053.html)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/71236040-1.jpg

Retainer (only) for Female Socket:
Yazaki 58 Connectors Unsealed M Type 4 Position Term Retainer [Black]
Part. No. 6918-0075
http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp ... &select=XX (http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp/yazaki-web/servlet/SubServlet_e?forward=7157-6240-30&plist=list&select=XX)
http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/y ... _1296_1305 (http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/yazaki-58-connectors-unsealed-m-type-4-position-term-retainer-black-p-8090.html?cPath=198_376_944_1296_1305)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/7157624030-1.jpg

The link from which Hansvonaxian's photo comes:
http://www.best-sys.com/products/list.p ... ory_id=110 (http://www.best-sys.com/products/list.php?category_id=110)
http://www.best-sys.com/products/detail ... uct_id=262 (http://www.best-sys.com/products/detail.php?product_id=262)
(Google translate: http://translate.google.com/translate?u ... 1&ie=UTF-8 (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.best-sys.com%2Fproducts%2Fdetail.php%3Fproduct_id%3D262&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=UTF-8) )

The diagrams for the Sumitomo and Yazaki connectors above appear at first glance to have different dimensions, but I believe they are equivalent parts being measured along differing edges/flanges/locking tabs.

hansvonaxion

03-18-2012, 06:45 PM

The first pic has the retainer on it also.

camroncamera

03-18-2012, 07:52 PM

The first pic has the retainer on it also.
Hansvonaxian is correct.

I've spent half the day Googling these every way til Sunday, and although I've found a few distributors that may be able to supply them in quantities of 3500 (lol), I've yet to find any online retailers that can sell a few of these connectors at a time. I will probably also look into the Nissan repair harness at my local dealership, though it would be nice to find a direct line on the connectors alone.

harrymaneuvers

03-18-2012, 08:56 PM

I was searching for the harness side connector for the JDM wrx side markers... turns out it is the same as the foglight connectors... I searched for days and didnt even come up with these two manufacturers... Good to know for the future.

camroncamera

03-18-2012, 09:27 PM

No retailers found online yet that have them in stock and available in small quantities. Several wholesalers/distributors listed below.

Placeholder links (these may get deleted/edited as confirmed suppliers are found):

Distributors:
http://www.qcomponents.com/search-resul ... =6101-5041 (http://www.qcomponents.com/search-results.aspx?ext=1&part=6101-5041) (Sumitomo Qty. 3600, minimum order US$200.00)
http://www.qcomponents.com/search-resul ... =7123-6040 (http://www.qcomponents.com/search-results.aspx?ext=1&part=7123-6040) (Yazaki Qty. 5500, minimum order US$200.00)
http://www.ttiinc.com/page/search_advpa ... mp;utm=704 (http://www.ttiinc.com/page/search_advpart.html?partsNumber=6101-5041&mfgShortname=SUM&utm=704) (Request For Quote (RFQ))
http://www.hobid.com/electronic-component/61015041/ (various distributors RFQ page)
http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp ... elect=null (http://connectors-catalog.sys.yzk.co.jp/yazaki-web/servlet/PageRollServlet_e?e_page=2&e_s_select=XX:XX:115:010:XX:XX:00:00:XX:XX:&e_h_select=null) (Yazaki page)
http://www.aedelectronics.com/search.asp (RFQ) (search using part number 6101-5041 (Sumitomo) or 7123-6040 (Yazaki)) Shows quantities available.
http://www.odysseyelectronics.net/resul ... er=odyssey (http://www.odysseyelectronics.net/results.html?part=7123-6040%0D%0A&Submit1=Start+Search&search_db=true&user=odyssey) (7123-6040 Yazaki available/in stock, RFQ)
http://www.odysseyelectronics.net/resul ... er=odyssey (http://www.odysseyelectronics.net/results.html?part=6101-5041&Submit1=Start+Search&search_db=true&user=odyssey) (6101-5041 Sumitomo available, RFQ)
http://www.sourceesb.com/part.asp?part= ... lter=44774 (http://www.sourceesb.com/part.asp?part=7123-6040&manufacturer=Yazaki&sname=PNS&type=E&mfrfilter=44774) (Yazaki RFQ through http://www.initialelectroniques.com/ )

None of the above connectors but many other cool connectors:
http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/index.php/cPath/109

Cool crimp QA chart:
http://www.bmotorsports.com/download/pr ... -Guide.pdf (http://www.bmotorsports.com/download/products/wiring/Crimp-Poster-Guide.pdf)

Not very helpful SumitomoConnector.com website:
http://www.sumitomoconnector.com/index.html

More helpful Sumitomo Wiring Systems website:
http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/en/ho ... 6101504158 (http://swsct.sws.co.jp/components/en/housing.asp?number_s=6101504158)

9007 male connectors for building JDM-to-USDM adapters:
http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1409
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... ink:top:en (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160764988010&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en)

r3v_v3ng3

03-19-2012, 04:14 AM

Matty2Hotty

03-19-2012, 04:28 AM

You just need one connector?

camroncamera

03-19-2012, 04:53 AM

You just need one connector?
For me, yes. I just need one female connector (same as in the very first photos of this thread) to have a pair of tidy USDM-to-JDM conversion harnesses in my own BK wagon. I don't even need the wire pigtails, really - just the white plastic connector and the little black retainer that snaps to the back. Happy to buy one from you if you've got one for sale.

Right now I have individual insulated quick-disconnects going directly into the JDM connector of each of my JDM projector fixtures. It works fine but it's not a really elegant install.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/IMG_2017-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/03/IMG_2019-1.jpg

But what I'm really getting at is that it would be cool to have a consistent supplier of new JDM-style connectors in bulk so that others that are missing them can easily and inexpensively purchase them and build their own conversion harnesses as needed.

Matty2Hotty

03-19-2012, 03:24 PM

Double check but might of thrown mine away. If not I will have two on my subaru am splicing off for my morettes this week.

Huffer

03-19-2012, 04:52 PM

You could really use an four pin connector and just rewire both sides - the headlight side and the car harness side, then you'd have your nice snap together harness.

Or, you could still use the butt-end connectors, but enclose them in the same kind of waterproof box that Bosch ships with it's universal O2 sensors.

camroncamera

03-19-2012, 05:56 PM

Unless your very anal about your stuff, you can just go to a junk yard and go to the import aisle look around for a 4 wire connector (female/male) cut that piece off. Go home depin your wires and transfer them to the connector. WaaaaLaaaa .
Make sure the connector hold the same gauge wire as your old one. Pick n Pull is your friend :smt023

You could really use any four pin connector and just rewire both sides - the headlight side and the car harness side, then you'd have your nice snap together harness.
Or, you could still use the butt-end connectors, but enclose them in the same kind of waterproof box that Bosch ships with it's universal O2 sensors.

Yes, these are workable options, thanks for your input. However, I still think it would be cool to develop a plug-n-play adapter harness to go from stock USDM wiring to JDM fixtures without cutting or depinning any of the stock wiring from either the car or the lights.

Such a harness would be also be useful in that it could
A) allow easy reversal back to USDM headlights should the need arise by simply removing the harness and plugging the stock headlights back in to the car's stock wiring
B) allow easy replacement of damaged JDM lights without having to again modify the wiring of the replacement fixtures
C) allow the simple integration of optional configurations for relays, low beam plus high beam combo, etc.

harrymaneuvers

03-20-2012, 01:06 AM

Realistically... you should just ask the seller of your next ebay JDM purchase to snip one and throw it in.

Yes it would be great to find someone who has 10 of those connectors for sale... but if a Google search doesnt easily turn up someone who has them cataloged in their inventory for sale... then it sounds like they were only made and supplied to the factory for automobile production and although the ability to make more exists, it would require an order large enough to justify another run (probably digging out a mold) So yes it is an option for anybody who wants them... but it would most likely be for someone who is making their own product for sale that would use that connector.

I know Elislider was missing one when he got his set and the seller mailed him a pigtail connector.

I am pretty sure the seller's name is newstars... which is who I actually got my lights from a couple years ago.

Legacy89

03-21-2012, 11:52 AM

Why not replace all the connectors?
https://www.deutschconnector.com/produc ... ctors.html (https://www.deutschconnector.com/products/deutsch_dt_4-way_connectors.html)
Weather proof, different clips for any aplication etc.

camroncamera

03-21-2012, 03:04 PM

Looks like there's a Nissan harness repair kit (for Altima, maybe 240sx) available for about $10 that includes the plugs?
Part code: 24342R
Part number: B4344-0CFW0
Part name: CONNECTOR ASSY-HARNESS REPAIR, 4P
http://www.nissanpartszone.com/componen ... 489_8.html (http://www.nissanpartszone.com/components/1997-nissan-quest_wiring-240-1489_8.html)
I stopped into the local Nissan dealership parts counter yesterday with the one JDM plug that I do have and a printout from the link above to ask about the Nissan Repair Harness. The parts guy was friendly and helpful and had no problem recognizing that the Nissan parts numbers were valid. While the front counter computer was occupied by another staff member, he disappeared for a good five minutes into the back room to check his inventory computer there. When he returned he told me that, although the parts numbers were valid, he was unable to get them, as his supplier had indicated that the items were No Longer Available. Even if they were available, the pricing would be a several dollars more than the prices on my printout sheet. His suggestion was that I should order the set from the online retailer on my printout, so perhaps I'll try that.

On a whim, I went directly across the street to the Subaru dealership parts counter (this area is known locally as the Vancouver Auto Mall, as there are about 5 new car dealers all jammed together on one-half mile strip of road) and showed the Subaru parts guy my connector. He also was unable to source the connector, but I'm glad I stopped in because he was very familiar with the popularity of JDM Subaru parts. He told me he was unable to source JDM parts, and that he cannot even enter valid JDM part numbers into the computer, as they don't come up... this conclusively answered the question I've had for some time whether USDM dealerships can order JDM parts. Even though the answer was an unsurprising "no," I'm no longer left to wonder lol.

After the dealership visits, I drove out to my town's Pick N' Pull to see if they had pre-removed parts ('95 USDM Leggy folding mirrors, Outback front bumper beam for my GT-B Limited bumper project). But since everything is pull-ur-self, I didn't pay to go into the yard with no tools on me in the pouring rain, lol. They told me that they had two Legacies on the lot, but they couldn't tell me what parts were still on the cars. I could see from the road that they had an Outback, but the front bumper was either gone or maybe stuffed into the back of the wagon (hard to see through the slats of a junkyard fence, lol). I didn't think of it at the time, but If the Nissan Repair Harness is applicable to several mid-90's USDM Nissans, maybe I'll try to see if there are any Nissans that have any of those connectors in place from the factory the next time I go. There is also a Japanese indoor wrecker in Portland I've been meaning to check out, so maybe I'll hit that place with these connectors in mind as well.

Why not replace all the connectors?
https://www.deutschconnector.com/produc ... ctors.html (https://www.deutschconnector.com/products/deutsch_dt_4-way_connectors.html)
Weather proof, different clips for any aplication etc.
That too is a good idea; the JDM headlight connectors are secure but not weathersealed.

Realistically... you should just ask the seller of your next ebay JDM purchase to snip one and throw it in.

Yes it would be great to find someone who has 10 of those connectors for sale... but if a Google search doesnt easily turn up someone who has them cataloged in their inventory for sale... then it sounds like they were only made and supplied to the factory for automobile production and although the ability to make more exists, it would require an order large enough to justify another run (probably digging out a mold) So yes it is an option for anybody who wants them... but it would most likely be for someone who is making their own product for sale that would use that connector.

I know Elislider was missing one when he got his set and the seller mailed him a pigtail connector.
I was hoping to do that with my order from Hans, but he was unable to source them. I've placed RFQ's with two of those US-based online vendors that specialize in selling hard-to-find connectors in small quantities. I'll definitely update everyone once I hear back from them.

Legacy89

03-21-2012, 03:38 PM

Use these at work on all of our Cat Eqipment.
When they can survive -45 to +90C in mud, snow and rain i they would most certanly survive in a enginebay.
They are rugged and easy to install and remove. Everything is re-usable except the pins/barrels.

camroncamera

03-29-2012, 04:52 PM

UPDATE!

Yesterday I heard back from New United Race Tech (http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/index.php?main_page=contact_us) with regards to my Request For Quote (RFQ). The good news... they CAN get the Yazaki-branded connectors :) The not-as-good news - minimum order on the
Yazaki 58 Unsealed M Type 4 Position Female Housing connectors (http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=8053) is 74 pieces @ US$1.58 (US$116.92 before shipping).
The minimum order on the
Yazaki 58 Unsealed M Type 4 Position Male Housing connectors (http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=8052) (only needed if you wish to replace the one on your JDM headlight assembly) is 44 pieces @ US$2.25 (US$99.00 before shipping).
I've confirmed that the retainer/stopper is a separate part and would also need to be ordered (don't yet have a price/min qty.). Still not an economical solution, but it is progress, lol.

BUT - The website has an awesome connector expert on its Live Chat feature - Justin really knows his stuff and was superbly helpful! I referred him to this thread today and explained what I am trying to accomplish. He seemed really impressed with the legwork we've done so far. He even was able to positively identify the manufacturer of the MO4F connector in my first photos in this thread:

Justin says:
that part in the image is a KUM CO part
Justin says:
a 3rd manufacturer source
Justin says:
... its SJD = Mitsubishi cable industrys = Korean machinest union
Camron says:
You are referring to my close-up photos of the connector and pigtail I have?
Justin says:
yeah
Camron says:
WOW, you know your stuff!
Justin says:
this is typical ... OEMs like toyota honda ect require 3 manufactures to make a part
Camron says:
The plot thickens lol
Justin says:
you have no idea
Justin says:
i got gravy over here
Camron says:
gravy... lol

Anyway, he was familiar with most of the distributors I mentioned in this thread, but agreed that I was unlikely to find any of them willing to sell in small quantities since they are wholesalers. Justin also suggested checking in 90's USDM Nissans and Hondas to salvage these connectors used. I was actually able to visit a third wrecking yard a few days ago with Nissans in mind (thinking of the repair harness mentioned a few posts back) but no dice thus far. Didn't really look in any Hondas yet.

camroncamera

04-06-2012, 08:35 PM

UPDATE

New United Race Tech (http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/) has managed to obtain a very small handful of the Yazaki connectors, with NO MINIMUM ORDER QUANTITY as long as your quantity is 5 or fewer (There was 10 in stock, but I bought 5 for myself, being sure to leave a few for you guys that would also like a couple).

The Yazaki female connector housing is sold for US$2.25/each: http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/i ... ts_id=8053 (http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=8053)
The stopper/retainer is sold separately, plenty in stock with no MOQ @ US$2.50/each: http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/i ... ts_id=8090 (http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=8090)
The proper B-type 0.250" female terminals are also available @ US$0.19/each: http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/i ... ts_id=8074 (http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=8074) Be aware that these terminals require a B-type crimp tool (the kind that makes those really nice OEM-style crimps).

Once the current handful of Yazaki JDM headlight connectors sells out, the next Minimum Order Quantity will be 74 pieces (@ US$1.58/each at quantity pricing).

I'd like to reiterate that Justin at New United Race Tech was extremely helpful and very knowledgeable about the many, many items he offers. I was notified that my order has shipped and I am very much looking forward to these parts. The Live Chat feature on his site puts you directly in contact with him, and this was really useful for getting these parts available. He also said that if, say, a vendor purchased the minimum quantity of 74 pieces, that after that point there would be no further minimum order quantity restrictions for additional customers afterward. The initial MOQ is used to cover his cost for getting the parts from his suppliers.

camroncamera

04-10-2012, 01:51 PM

My order from New United (http://www.newunitedracetech.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=198_376_944_1296_1305&products_id=8053) has arrived!
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/04/IMG_2608-1.jpg

Brand-spanking-new Yazaki JDM-style Headlight Connectors, Stoppers, Female 58-type terminals, and B-Crimp tool:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/04/IMG_2619-1.jpg

Old VS. New... looks like a perfect match, but the new terminals can use larger-gauge wire:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/04/IMG_2622-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/04/IMG_2624-1.jpg

Close-up comparison:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/04/IMG_2625-2.jpg

Thrilled with this order, ready to start relaying and wiring! ...er, oops I still need to order those 9007 male connectors lol:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... ink:top:en (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160764988010&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en)

hansvonaxion

04-10-2012, 06:38 PM

You should have bought at the bulk rate and become the go to man for connectors.

camroncamera

04-10-2012, 09:27 PM

You should have bought at the bulk rate and become the go to man for connectors.
It had crossed my mind, but once the initial bulk rate quantity is met, all the following orders would be no Minimum Order Quantity from that vendor after such an order - so anyone that needs only one or two connectors could then order just those one or two from New United. The only way to really make it work for me (or anyone else) to fulfill the MOQ would be to build and sell complete conversion harnesses for those that would rather not DIY...but I'd better build and test a couple of my harnesses first, lol.

Looks like the bulk minimum order quantity on the connector has gone up to 100pcs. at US$1.35, and the retainers are limited to 64pcs. in stock at the moment at US$2.50. And they are now down to 50 female terminals in stock at US$0.19, limiting the number of pairs to build to 6.

Lets see if my crappy math works out to make 6 pairs using the above info, lol...
58-series Yazaki Connector - 100pcs. @ US$1.35 = US$135.00
Yazaki Stopper/Retainer for above connector - 12pcs. @ US$2.50 = US$30.00
58-series Female Faston terminals - 50pcs. @ US$0.19 = US$9.50
Add also:
ebay 9007 USDM headlight adapters - 12pcs. @ US$4.99/pr = US$59.88 + US$6.70 Shipping to my ZIP code = US$66.58

At this point I'm up to US$241.08 (before shipping from New United), lets round that up to $250.00

So US$250.00 / 6 pairs = US$41.67 materials cost per pair, and this does not even include additional materials such as wire, fully insulated quick-disconnects (for making the harnesses expandable for relays, Hi+Low double ground, etc.), nor my time making them, packaging them and shipping them out.

Le sigh.

harrymaneuvers

04-11-2012, 12:18 AM

camroncamera

04-11-2012, 02:48 AM

You are honestly better off emailing 4-5 JDM parts sellers from Japan or NZ on ebay and asking for a favor.
I know Elislider was able to contact the guy he bought his headlights from and he sent elislider a pigtail.
Yeah, that totally makes sense if somebody just needs one or two connectors for their own conversion. If someone were to build and sell full conversion plug-n-play harnesses, I think that all-new components with heavier-gauge wiring would be a good selling point. It's just that the math doesn't work out very well until there are either no MOQ's or no constraints on the availability of related parts.

camroncamera

05-07-2012, 03:15 AM

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/05/IMG_3417-1.jpg

r3v_v3ng3

05-07-2012, 12:51 PM

^^ nicely done!

harrymaneuvers

05-07-2012, 01:35 PM

I like your style.

I put a few drops of silicone epoxy in the back of the blue connector to keep moisture out of the inside of the terminal openings.

Wondering where you got these at... I would bet they also have the pigtail connector for the JDM WRX side markers which is the same as the wrx fog light connector.

camroncamera

05-07-2012, 02:47 PM

^^ nicely done!
Thank you. They look quite simple, but I really did put a lot of thought into these adapter harnesses.

I like your style.
I put a few drops of silicone epoxy in the back of the blue connector to keep moisture out of the inside of the terminal openings.
Wondering where you got these at... I would bet they also have the pigtail connector for the JDM WRX side markers which is the same as the wrx fog light connector.
Good idea about the silicone sealant, though the terminals are crimped+soldered and are not likely to corrode anytime soon. Curious that the female version of the 9007 blue plug from the same ebay seller
( http://myworld.ebay.com/winter-worx-electronix/ ) includes rubber terminal stoppers, but these male connectors do not. The 9007 blue male plugs can also be found at http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=1409

I constructed the adapter harnesses myself using all brand-new materials, including the 9007 male adapters, Yazaki JDM connectors and B-crimp terminals, 6-inch 14-gauge leads between adapters, 9-inch 14-gauge ground lead with soldered ring terminal for simultaneous Low Beam + High Beam operation, 12-inch long 16-gauge blue wire for the small city light with soldered insulated quick-disconnect terminals to patch into the corner indicators. All terminals have been crimped+soldered, cables are color-matched to the JDM headlight wires, and laminated two-sided labels to easily identify each lead. This is starting to sound like a sales pitch so I will shortly be moving them to the classifieds section.... but before I do, I'm thinking of a Beta-tester - maybe an SL-i admin? Or one of you folk who've helped me so much here in this very thread?

camroncamera

06-11-2012, 07:31 PM

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/05/IMG_3417-1.jpg
My two prototype USDM-to-JDM plug-and-play Headlight Adapter Harness pairs quickly sold out, but a little birdie asked me to make more of these for sale through his online store. I've been asked not to drop any names just yet, but rest assured that it will be a legitimate, trustworthy Subaru performance web store. I've ordered the materials (all brand-new genuine JDM connectors and quality USA-manufactured terminals and cross-linked SXT auto wire), and I'll be making a limited production run of about 25 pairs.

I am determined to make a very high-quality product for a fair price. It is a substantial investment on my part, but popular demand has eased my concerns. If you'd like to help generate buzz, please be sure to spread the word for us such that we may not only recoup our investment, but also consider plug-and-play harness designs for other functions and other models of Legacies.

Pricing TBD. This is not a classified ad. I can only presume that once these go on sale that they will be found in the Vendor Classifieds (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewforum.php?f=24) section of SL-i.net.

Thanks for your support! If you'd like to express your interest in one or more pairs, please let us know below :)

Yokosilver

06-11-2012, 08:07 PM

Solid product. Looks very professional. Too bad the USDM-to-JDM headlight swapping community is so small, you could make a pretty penny selling this as extra income. Good luck with the store!

Reason

06-11-2012, 10:21 PM

That birdie is me, but I decided to make all profit go towards the forum vs my business.

camroncamera

06-11-2012, 11:45 PM

Solid product. Looks very professional. Too bad the USDM-to-JDM headlight swapping community is so small, you could make a pretty penny selling this as extra income. Good luck with the store!
Thanks for the kind words! I hope to make the production product even better, while simplifying it's manufacture. It definitely is a niche-niche market, lol. However, I am hopeful that, since it will make the installation of JDM lights much simpler, more BD/BG/BK drivers who haven't already done so will be encouraged to install JDM lights, and thus help expand our little market.

That birdie is me, but I decided to make all profit go towards the forum vs my business.
Alright, the cat's out of the bag and chasing that birdie, and I'm glad I can put a little excitement into the SL-i.net community :grin:

camroncamera

06-22-2012, 04:40 AM

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/06/IMG_3653-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/06/IMG_3763-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/06/IMG_3760-1.jpg

Reason

06-22-2012, 10:10 AM

Production time!!!

If anyone wants to clean up their install and help support SL-i contact me to order a pair.

SilverSuby

06-22-2012, 12:02 PM

Thank God someone found these.
-Logan

camroncamera

06-23-2012, 08:44 PM

Production of the adapter harnesses has officially started:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/06/IMG_3767-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/06/IMG_3772-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/06/IMG_3785-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/06/IMG_3784-1.jpg

camroncamera

06-25-2012, 12:48 AM

I've heard in the past that early model USDM BD/BG/BK's may not use a 9007 plug for connection to factory headlights, and that they use an H4 connector instead. I'm not sure where I got this impression, and it may not even be correct. Is anyone here able to tell me whether they had/have anything other than a 9007 connector? Thanks for the feedback!

mlitz

06-25-2012, 01:02 AM

Yeah I have an early 97 and it has a 9003/H3

camroncamera

06-25-2012, 03:55 AM

Yeah I have an early 97 and it has a 9003/H3
Thanks for the quick answer!

Do you mean 9003/H4 ? Does your car's stock headlight plug look like the male or female end of the harness found in this ebay auction?:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/H4-9003-Wiring-Harness-Socket-Wire-Connector-Plug-/280908004738?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item41676bfd82&vxp=mtr

mlitz

06-25-2012, 10:37 AM

It's a female end and yes sorry H4 lol

camroncamera

06-26-2012, 04:57 PM

Okay, so some of the harnesses will be JDM-to-9007, and the others will be JDM-to-H4. If anyone has leads to a supplier of reasonably-priced, quality H4/9003 MALE plugs (without wire pigtails), please chime in. Cheapy plugs are available on ebay, but that is the opposite direction in which I wish to head.

camroncamera

07-01-2012, 02:25 AM

Awaiting further supplies... (muzak... :smt020 )

In the meantime, enjoy these images of the blue city light wire during production...

Open barrel terminals nicely crimped:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/IMG_3800-1.jpg

Quick disconnects crimped & soldered:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/IMG_3806-1.jpg

With insulated sleeves in place (made in USA, by the way) :
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/IMG_3810-1.jpg

Female disconnect included for easy patching into your DRL wire:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/IMG_3811-1.jpg

This stack ready to go!:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/IMG_3814-1.jpg

camroncamera

07-17-2012, 08:22 PM

:smt031

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/IMG_4362-2.jpg

camroncamera

07-18-2012, 02:33 AM

Does anyone have any closeup photos of early model 2nd-gen Legacy ('95-'97) H4 headlight connectors on their car? I'd like to see which color wire goes to what slot on the headlight connector for the H4 version of this adapter. Driver and Passenger sides, if possible, thanks!!

Thomistopheles

07-18-2012, 03:45 AM

I can get you photos of my 97's connectors this afternoon.

camroncamera

07-18-2012, 12:18 PM

I can get you photos of my 97's connectors this afternoon.
That's terrific! Thank you!

Thomistopheles

07-18-2012, 04:44 PM

Previous owner had to replace melted connectors, but you can still follow the wires to the pins.

DRIVER
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/30b45978-2.jpg
Wire colors:
Red
Yellow w/ lt blue stripe
Red w/ lt blue or gray stripe

PASSENGER
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/6027d951-1.jpg
Wire colors:
Red
Yellow w/ lt blue stripe
Lt blue w/ yellow stripe

camroncamera

07-18-2012, 04:53 PM

Previous owner had to replace melted connectors, but you can still follow the wires to the pins.

DRIVER

Wire colors:
Red
Yellow w/ lt blue stripe
Red w/ lt blue or gray stripe

PASSENGER

Wire colors:
Red
Yellow w/ lt blue stripe
Lt blue w/ yellow stripe

:smt023 :smt023 :smt023

This is perfect, thank you VERY much!

Thomistopheles

07-18-2012, 05:03 PM

camroncamera

07-19-2012, 03:17 AM

You're welcome. I'll be keeping an eye out for when the h4 version is ready... it'll make it easier to justify spending $200 on projector headlights. :lol:

"But honey, I already have these adapters...they're not doing me much good without the headlights to go with them!"
You won't have long to wait on the H4 adapters because they're done!
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/IMG_4406-1.jpg

All my harnesses are built and ready for final QC and product photography.
Holy moley, that was a lot of work. :grin: LOL
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/IMG_4409-2.jpg

Baddog

07-24-2012, 04:56 PM

These work great! Picked up a set local from him.

camroncamera

07-26-2012, 11:30 PM

These work great! Picked up a set local from him.
Thanks for the kind words, Baddog!

Previous owner had to replace melted connectors, but you can still follow the wires to the pins.
DRIVER
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/30b45978-1.jpg
Wire colors:
Red
Yellow w/ lt blue stripe
Red w/ lt blue or gray stripe

PASSENGER
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/6027d951-1.jpg
Wire colors:
Red
Yellow w/ lt blue stripe
Lt blue w/ yellow stripe
Thomistopheles, thank you again for your photos... PM sent :)

I am now looking for someone local (Portland, Oregon area) with a Legacy equipped with H4 plugs for me to photograph an additional closeup image of the stock H4 connector to be included in the official installation thread/instruction sheet. It would be used to illustrate the difference between the H4 headlight connector and the 9007 connector. Or, if someone out there would allow your photo of the H4 connector reproduced, you may post it here, and PM me with how you would like your photo credited (i.e. real name or sl-i.net username). I'm looking to take an image of the H4 connector on the USDM headlight that resembles this photo of the 9007 connector:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/4Zero1Motorsports_LegacyJDM_Adapter4549-1.jpg

Thomistopheles

07-26-2012, 11:42 PM

I'll get you a photo like that one tomorrow.

Thomistopheles

07-27-2012, 08:10 AM

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/a30f7dce-2.jpg
Note, there may be a rubber boot covering the plug.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/b7049ac5-2.jpg

camroncamera

07-27-2012, 11:54 AM

Perfect! Thanks again!!
:wav:

camroncamera

07-27-2012, 03:51 PM

Can any '95-'96 owners with H4 headlight plugs confirm that the labels in my diagram are correct?
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/30b45978_Legacy_H4ConnectorWires_Labels_-2.jpg
Photo credit: Thomistopheles (labels by camroncamera)

Odycee

07-28-2012, 03:39 PM

camroncamera

07-28-2012, 06:36 PM

Compare connection to this link, you're correct for the driver side. The passenger side low/hi beam share same color code except power has black/yellow.

viewtopic.php?f=39&t=5941 (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=5941)
Thanks, I've been through that thread forwards and backwards, and most of the info is regarding the 9007 plugs (which I have on my car, so I'm good there). According to Thomistopheles' photos, H4 plug wires use the same color as the 9007 plug wires on the driver side, and my GUESS is that the color/function of each H4 wire matches the color/function of each 9007 wire. I'd love to be absolutely sure this is correct. There is one diagram in that thread that seems to confirm my thoughts: viewtopic.php?f=39&t=5941&start=60 (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=5941&start=60)

According to Thomistopheles' photo, the passenger side's H4 leads' don't have a black/yellow wire; it has a blue wire with yellow stripe. The other two wires (Yellow with blue stripe and Red) go to the same positions on the H4 connector as the driver's side.

Odycee

07-28-2012, 07:34 PM

You got me curious about passenger side black wire for the12V. Mine is 95 BK model, passenger does have black 12V wire. Sorry picture are taken with my tablet.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/20120728_160835-2.jpg

Driver side

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/20120728_160755-2.jpg

camroncamera

07-28-2012, 08:01 PM

Thanks for these pics, Odycee! So, Passenger Side looks like Red, Black (with yellow stripe?), and Yellow (with blue stripe?) ... is there a splice, and do the wires change colors below where it looks like there is electrical tape?

Driver's side, I think I see Red (solid), Red with Blue Stripe, and Yellow (with blue stripe?).

Odycee

07-29-2012, 05:16 PM

Camron,

No good deed goes unpunished, measure 3x and cut once. Since you're making a production line, you can't afford to make mistakes . Therefore, I'm going an extra mile for you.

The car is 100% stock, the black tape is factory wrap to keep it nice and neat, not splice. Head lights are stock with original rubber boot seen in previous pictures. I removed electrical tape in these pictures.

Driver side red solid, red with blue stripe, yellow with gray stripe.
Passenger side red solid, black with yellow stripe, yellow with with blue stripe. (Picture looks yellow with gray stripe, it's not)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/20120729_134458-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/20120729_134439-2.jpg

camroncamera

07-30-2012, 05:12 PM

Odycee, you are a rock star! Thanks again!

Dead91silvia

08-02-2012, 10:00 AM

camroncamera

08-02-2012, 01:33 PM

You know what I like about this Forum? People are do'ers, not talkers!

Excellent product! If I hadnt hard wired mine, I would have picked up a set... Only thing I would add would be some split loom or large heat shrink tubing to the wire, just to make it look more OEM. Still looks great! :smt023
Thanks for the kind words, Dead! I shot formal product photography last week, and those shots look really nice. Reason will be setting up a proper sale thread (or start with a pre-sale thread) soon, I expect the final reveal will take place there.

That's a great idea about the loom, I hadn't even thought of that. My supplier of JDM connectors suggested all black wires, but I wanted to retain the colors of the JDM lights (Red, White, Black, and Blue) to make it earlier to troubleshoot crossed wires if necessary. I've read reports where the wires of the JDM lights didn't come in the right positions in the JDM socket and caused all sorts of bad JuJu.