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mike-tracy
05-29-2012, 08:03 PM
Story: Friend's mom has an 01 Legacy L wagon w/ 4eat. Her house was broken into when they were asleep, and thieves stole her purse and keys. And the Subaru.

Two days later they find it parked in the woods, not too much worse for the wear. No keys though. So the friend's mom goes to the dealership with her registration and gets new ones made. They work perfectly in the doors, with either side up. Steering wheel was locked by thieves by turning it after the key was removed.

Sounds simple right? Put the key in, and wiggle the steering wheel and it should work, right? Nope.
Took the column's plastic off and pushed the interlock switch while turning the key and a friend rocked the steering wheel back in forth. No luck either.

So I'm thinking, maybe it's not fully in park, so I pushed in the shifter lock switch, and tried the above in "N" and also back in "P." No dice.

I believe the ignition cylinder is in good shape, because the thieves had the car's key, and also because I can feel the replacement key start to turn before it hits the interlock. Doesn't feel like the key's teeth are hitting mangled metal, but that the whole cylinder is blocked from moving.

Additionally, the horn beeps once after I have been working in the car for a while, lock then close the driver side door. Seems like it has an alarm, but there's no led in the normal spot for these cars. Edit: Called owner and she said it had keyless entry but no alarm.

Let me know what you think. They're towing it to my house presently.

mike-tracy
05-29-2012, 10:41 PM
Or maybe I should approach this from a different angle. Say I was at a junkyard, and had no key or battery. How would I unlock the column then?

Huffer
05-30-2012, 10:52 AM
You'd remove the ignition switch and key barrel...

Sometimes, if I hard park my car on a hill, I have to put the key in, and turn it a little further in the direction of full lock, then my key will turn fully and release the lock on the steering wheel.
If the car was stuck in the woods, in soft dirt, it might not have been able to roll into full lock. Just a thought.

Dead91silvia
05-30-2012, 01:24 PM
Something is up with the key part of the ignition for sure. It should roll over with, or without power. The interlock is only for the shifter release. I know my 98 BD is like that, I would test on my BH, but my car is a stick, but I know the ignition does roll over with 0% power on both cars...

What might have happened is some how they may have rolled the ignition past the pin. I have seen it happen on a few different cars.

Another thing that might have happened is they just might have been super stupid morons that took it and some how beat the crap out of the lock on the column. That can jam things up also.

You can pull the whole unit off with a flat head and a hammer. Just knock the pins off on the column clamp and it should come right off... them you can figure out what is going on with it off the car.

Ether way, it sounds like 90% chance of it being mechanical, or electronic... but I could be wrong...

mike-tracy
05-31-2012, 08:39 PM
Got the shear bolts drilled out. The ignition cylinder has a bar that sticks out into the steering column when the key is removed, and that bar WAS just really jammed in there. Functions fine now. Just waiting on the new shear bolts from the dealer.

Wiscon_Mark
05-31-2012, 10:46 PM
The interlock is only for the shifter release.

For releasing the shifter, yes, but your car shouldn't give your key up if it's not in Park. Does it not do this?

Glad you got it solved, Mike.

Dead91silvia
06-01-2012, 02:36 AM
Was the key stuck? If so I missed that part... haha... Yes, it needs to be in park in order to take the key out, unless it's really worn out...

Mike, why dont you just cut a slice in the end of the bolts and use a flat head to install it? If it's for anti theft, they are not even gonna notice it.... Just wondering..

Wiscon_Mark
06-01-2012, 08:24 AM
Was the key stuck? If so I missed that part... haha... Yes, it needs to be in park in order to take the key out, unless it's really worn out...

No, but I was thinking they probably use the same system to lock the key in as to keep it out, yes? Or am I confused (maybe I am).