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Garrison
05-30-2012, 12:28 AM
Care to guess what this could be?

1998 EJ25D 149,700 miles
Started the car for the first time in a few days and during the warm up period, the engine sounded a dead-ringer for a diesel engine.
EDIT: Could hear the sound definitely coming from the driver's side (#2 & #4 pistons AND/OR Heads)

After driving for a period of 10 minutes I pulled over to listen again and the sound was completely gone.

Ideas?

Huffer
05-30-2012, 10:52 AM
Heat shield w/ exhaust leak.

Garrison
05-30-2012, 11:31 AM
I removed the heat shield when I was working on the shift mechanism, but thank you for the guess.

I've done some more research, it looks like it's one of these three:

Piston slap (common on older subarus, fixed with replaced pistons)
Valve ticking (don't think so, but easy enough fix, adjust valves)
Timing-belt tensioner (sealed hydraulic unit, knocks like crazy when worn out/leaking; replacement is a swap of unit)

What say you sir?

Huffer
05-30-2012, 12:55 PM
I have piston slap on my 1998 EJ25, with 112k, goes away when the engine is warm. I figured you knew what PS was...

The fix for piston slap is to actually sleeve the cylinder, as the piston itself doesn't expand fast enough when the engine is started.

Garrison
05-30-2012, 01:24 PM
So if I'm planning to do a block swap later on, to an EJ222, now would be the time?


EDIT: Also, why sleeve the cylinders instead of sizing up the piston .06", or .10"? I would think piston swapping (as per SOA's traditional method of repair) would be the easier, more OEM friendly solution.

*Added information to original post*

anothernord
05-30-2012, 02:43 PM
Video of noise? Could be the traditional cold start piston slap. Even my old EJ25 that was new at the time did it on real cold mornings.

Garrison
06-06-2012, 08:32 AM
Well I've been waiting to get a good video, but the sound simply hasn't occurred since I first posted this thread. Am I being a bad owner by not worrying about it?

jjay03
06-24-2012, 07:59 AM
Mine is pretty noisy I think most of it though is from the header even though it is wrapped. I am going to check my valve clearances while I have my engine apart. You cant just adjust them you have to buy a shim of the correct size.

Garrison
06-24-2012, 10:15 AM
I think it's the wrist pin. I took a video of it when it showed up again and let a mechanic listen to it. He asked the symptoms and circumstances when it shows up; and wrist pin was his guess. He said to just drive it and not worry, and if I was going to replace the block, now's the time.

Garrison
06-24-2012, 02:14 PM
Here's the video I took. Finally got around to uploading it.

This is right after ignition.
http://static.photobucket.com/player.sw ... EO0008.mp4 (http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid1003.photobucket.com/albums/af158/Garrisonbowers/VIDEO0008.mp4)

Navi271
06-24-2012, 06:50 PM
Almost sounds like a little rod knock. Make sure you're full on oil!