Is there any significance to the name Lancaster with subarus

[MarkSubi]

I'm just wondering? was it someone who helped create and design some of the Subaru's or what?

[amgarrety]

All I know for sure is that it is the term for the Legacy touring wagon (what the non-outback wagon would be here). I don't know the origin of Lancaster though.

[Yamazaki]

No. The Lancaster was the Outback, not the regular wagon.

[amgarrety]

..... You're right..... I don't remember where I read differently but I just researched it again.

[Yamazaki]

I also looked through the Lancaster brochures I have to see if there's a name origin story, but no such luck.

[hansvonaxion]

I immediately think Lancaster bomber, that seems unlikely but stranger things have happened (especially in Japan).

[MarkSubi]

Yeah I knew about the wagon witch is one reason why I asked. Idk I've just seen it with the wagon and seen user names of others with Lancaster in it. Also my ex's entire family were Subaru drivers witch was badass and there last name happened to be Lancaster to lol well it was spelled that way but they pronounced it differently.

[Dead91silvia]

You know, I wanna know too! Japan has a way of coming up with some interesting names for cars and such. I mean look at Nissan and Toyota! Silvia, Cedric, Noah, Surf... they have a lot of odd ones. Most of the American cars have some type of meaning like the Mustang, Silverado, Tahoe, and Road Runner.

So yeah, I wanna know also!

[Yamazaki]

Well, why not ask where "Impreza" came from. Or why our cars are named "Legacy" in the first place? I'll do a quick search to see what, if anything, I can find regarding the Lancaster. But I'm not expecting to come up with anything.

[Dead91silvia]

Well, why not ask where "Impreza" came from. Or why our cars are named "Legacy" in the first place? I'll do a quick search to see what, if anything, I can find regarding the Lancaster. But I'm not expecting to come up with anything.

Thats also a good one! I think Legacy is self explanitory, but Impreza? Then we have the Forester, but that seems easy since it's a mini SUV, like the Ford Escape.

What about the Alcyone/SVX (spelling)? Or the Justy or Brat?

[redlegacygt]

Anyone thought of sending an email to someone at Subaru for possible answer? I'm sure if it was sent on behalf of the forum, then maybe they'd give us some sort of answer. I just think it would be cool to know.... lol

[amgarrety]

That would be really cool, but you might need to email SOJ? I would assume SOA just follows whatever SOJ tells them to name it, of course unless it conflicts with something else in the particular country.

But having the origin of the naming scheme available here would be cool. We should also ask about the origin of the L7 emblem. Haha

[Dead91silvia]

Anyone thought of sending an email to someone at Subaru for possible answer? I'm sure if it was sent on behalf of the forum, then maybe they'd give us some sort of answer. I just think it would be cool to know.... lol

That would be really cool, but you might need to email SOJ? I would assume SOA just follows whatever SOJ tells them to name it, of course unless it conflicts with something else in the particular country.

But having the origin of the naming scheme available here would be cool. We should also ask about the origin of the L7 emblem. Haha
Yamazaki, you up to maybe do this? You do speak it... :smt023

[Reuben]

That would be really cool, but you might need to email SOJ? I would assume SOA just follows whatever SOJ tells them to name it, of course unless it conflicts with something else in the particular country.

But having the origin of the naming scheme available here would be cool. We should also ask about the origin of the L7 emblem. Haha

It's not an L7 for one, it's two symmetrical L's, one's just upside down, under the first, to make like.. a lightning bolt sorta emblem. Nothing much to it, all the Jap Subies had their own emblem. The Impreza had a swooshy lower case i, and the forrester had a stylised F. Get what the letters mean now?

As for Lancaster, like the Brighton, they are towns in England with significant racing history is what I've been told. There's one or two other models too that I can't remember...

And there is a difference between the Grand Wagon and the Lancaster I think... FYI, Grand Wagon was the Jap name for Outback. I think the Lancasters got more leather and more options... Yamazaki is the man to consult on this one!!! Lexi... TO THE BOOKS!

[Reuben]

Doing some research... looks like they introduced the Lancaster in 1997, so for the BG9C, and it replaced the Grand Wagon. So it appears, plainly enough, that Grand Wagon, and then Lancaster simply are the JDM names for what the rest of the world knew as the Outback. AFAIK, Japan never got an 'Outback'. Any perceived luxuries they received over world market outbacks, are just the normal things the JDM's got that were stripped from the world market cars...

When the BG moved from Grand Wagon, to Lancaster, it got some 'world market' parts, like the orange tails, instead of the clears (keeping in mind the BG had been around in Japan since 1993, the Grand wagon was a LATE model BG9A introduced in 1995, not such thing as an EARLY BG9A). Looks like they also got the woodgrain single airbag momo like the GTB Ltd's got. And projectors too, which apparently the Grand Wagon didn't receive, even for the BG9B, when the GTB's and 250T's were getting them.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/97820legacy20lancaster06-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/97820legacy20lancaster09-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/07/97820legacy20lancaster11-1.jpg


(Side note, I find it funny how they used the BC GT/RS wheels, that they designed in 1989, on them. Nice wheels though, I can't wait till I get a set for my BC for his winter wheels.)

[Yamazaki]

Yeah, looked across the internet and Subaru books... No reasons given for any of the names. It'd be like asking Chevrolet why they chose the name "Camaro" or "Corvette". I mean hell, a corvette is a type of ship. Why would you name a sports car that?

As for the Lancaster and what it is... exactly what Reuben said (except that eventually Japan did call it the Outback with the 4th Gen and did away with the Lancaster name completely).

[Dead91silvia]

Hey! Thats an SUS grill! :smt026 And it has chrome door handels?! :smt017 Whats with the small wing? Thats new... to me anyway...

And I want that steering wheel! It would match the rest of my car! :grin:

So... Lancaster... Town/race track in England... Brighton as well...

L7 is a double "L" for Legacy... Did all Legacys/Libertys get them?

[Yamazaki]

No. You can see all the brochures when you get here. That'll answer all of your questions.

[amgarrety]

L7 is a double "L" for Legacy... Did all Legacys/Libertys get them?

As far as I know, only Legacy Turbos got them during the time period the US didn't have a trubo model. I know that part of the story and everything, i'm more curious on why they chose the design they did (I get the "L" is for legacy, I meant more specificly why they'd flip an L, if it had a meaning or it was just for fun), and more importantly, the significant of the different color options.

[Yamazaki]

Non-turbos got it too.

[amgarrety]

Really? From what i've read it was turbo only. Maybe that was after the D type front end? Becuase I know one of the prominant theories about the L7 is that the 7 is actually a styalized T, recognizing a turbo'd model.

[Yamazaki]

Nope. They were on non-turbo models as much as turbo models. And that was from the BD/BG era, through the end of the BE/BH era. Your TX grille backs that statement up.

[amgarrety]

Damn. You're right.

[Wiscon_Mark]

L = Legacy
7 = the 6 subsidiaries of FHI (+FHI themselves) from what I've read. There are also 6 stars in the Pleadies constellation.

[Reuben]

Yeah, L7 was on pretty much all JDM BD/BG's, and a lot of BE/BH's. But you could get different ones too. There was a limited 'Brighton gold' that got a gold L7 shaped badge, but on it were the stars. And my dads 98 BH GT twin turbo has a stars badge on it.

Guy's, you really should study these brochures, rather than listen to what the internet or your friends have to say, will clear up a lot of myths...

http://a15ff11300g.sakura.ne.jp/catalog ... logue.html (http://a15ff11300g.sakura.ne.jp/catalogue/catalogue.html)

[Reuben]

Hey! Thats an SUS grill! :smt026

Like I said, the BG lancaster got a few world market parts.

I've always said to the americans, the closest one can get town owning a JDM subie in the states, short of importing one, is getting a BG outback, they share a remarkable ammount of things with the JDM equivelants.

[Yamazaki]

Guy's, you really should study these brochures, rather than listen to what the internet or your friends have to say, will clear up a lot of myths...

http://a15ff11300g.sakura.ne.jp/catalog ... logue.html (http://a15ff11300g.sakura.ne.jp/catalogue/catalogue.html)

Well said.
That's an excellent site, by the way. I just wish the pages were bigger so I could read them better. I have most of those in hardcopy, but not all.

[amgarrety]

That is a great website. I wish I knew how to read Japanese so I could read up.