2000 legacy l looking to be a rsk

[Bostonboy65]

hey guys ive been watching b4 rsk videos and i want one! ive read that the ej20tt is not a great platform and that a single turbo is better. Basically i have an auto 2.5 with a diy ganzflow intake and the sport mode mod always on. Its been a huge change over stock but i want more!!! What can i do to make this thing act like these b4 videos? I was looking at the 4th gen legacies with twin turboed h6s and single 2.0s. I can get a blown 2,0 with turbo, guy said it had a bad knock, for 200???

[02_Legacy]

With the amount of knowledge that you are showing in the post above I would say you are not ready for any kind of swap right now, your best bet would be to buy something that already has the power you are looking for so you don't have to mess with it. I know this is not an option for most people so if you really want to do a swap for more power you need to read. and then read some more, and then find some more to read. No one is going to spoon feed you this stuff when you just post a thread asking about "twin turboed h6s and single 2.0s"

[MonstarMotorsports]

the twin turbo doesnt work over here because it wont fit in a LHD car, thats why people convert to single. twin vs single in a rhd car has a lot of pro's and con's. just depends what you want your car set up for.

theres a Sti swapped legacy out on craigs right now for 11,500. So lets make this simple. can you afford to buy that car right now? If you can, go buy it. Will save you a lot of head aches. If you cant, stop thinking about a swap. its out of your budget lol.

But in all honestly. I wouldn't ever talk any one out of trying a swap. I love doing subaru swaps, they honestly arent that hard if you do them right and have the correct parts. You ever need help, feel free to message me. I've done dozens of swaps and sell complete swaps often.

[Bostonboy65]

Yea im a noob when it comes to mechanics but in looking at being an engineer so I figured the swap would help. Right now I'm looking at building an engine and transmission to swap it in may. I can get a knocking ej251 for cheap (not sure exactly). Also I'm trying for a blown ej205. Would it be worth it to build the ej251? Could I get similar power with a h6 build? Im willing to read/learn by I want help from experienced people.

[Garrison]

EJ251 + Sti internals (crank, rods, pistons) and then turbo it.

[Bostonboy65]

That's what I was thinking. It I've heard that its open and that the stis are closed so I might have problems? Also should I do Sti turbo and stuff or go aftermarket? I'm in class so it's har to read up on stuf now.

[MonstarMotorsports]

the EJ257 is semi closed. the only closed deck block is the EJ22T from the early 90's boosted legacys.

finding a blown motor to rebuild is going to be your hardest route to go honestly. (although i understand why you want to do it, and im not saying dont try it)

this goes back to doing it the right way to save a bunch of troubles. explanation to what i mean:
if you find a blown motor, thats probably all your going to find, and your not going to have everything else you need to do a swap. crossmember, wiring, ecu, radiator, mounts, etc.... and some times it gets really difficult to piece that shit together. and a uncut wiring harness is extremely hard to find, but takes soooo many head aches out of a swap.

how ever, if you just save up and buy a complete swap.. we'll you've made your life a billion times better. Example:
I sell Ej205 complete swaps for $2,000. they include the complete motor/turbo, crossmember, ecu, uncut harness, Motor Mounts, and intercooler. and the radiator if i have a good one to throw in.
now if you bought that swap ^ and did all the labor your self, your only additional cost is going to be a downpipe, new exhaust and fluids. theres going to be minor expenses like maybe wiring connections, electrical tape, etc... but minor stuff. shouldnt cost you more than $2500 bucks for a full wrx swap.
rebuilding a motor how ever... well you might sink $2500 into just buying a blown 205 and rebuilding it... and then you dont have any of the other stuff you need... and your probably going to spend another grand or more and months searching for everything.

now the easiest way you can possibly do a swap. buy a complete swap like i listed. start with taking your seats, center console and carpet out, pull your entire dash out, including the dash bar. move onto the motor, pull the motor, then start removing the wiring. you wont have to cut anything, just unplug it and start feeding it threw the holes and threw the firewall into the car. then pull pull it out of the car. jack it up and pull out the crossmember, theres a few bolts, but its not to difficult to figure out. when the new crossmember is in, drop the new motor in. putting in the new harness is going to take a little work since its molded for a wrx, you have to figure out what its going to take to make it go where it needs to go, out threw the firewall and into the engine bay. But honestly thats preschool work lol. once the connectors are all in the bay you can start plugging your motor back in. and buttoning up the engine bay. once your back inside its a matter of putting your interior back together. the only wiring your going to have to do is minor compared to trying to merge a couple engine harnesses. its a matter of just making door locks and window switches work, and your hvac work. all pretty basic and realtively easy to figure out. Since everything you just put in is all from the same wrx, its just a matter of turning the key, firing it up and go driving. no tuning, no problems. its pretty straight forward and pretty simple.

doing it any other way just be prepared to possibly do twice the wiring, have massive head aches from not being able to figure it out, spending $400-1000 bucks for tuning just so you can drive your hybrid, tons of headaches figuring out whats going to work with this and that, and what isnt... its just a lot more work. might be worth it in the end, but tipically its going to nickle and dime ya to death.

so hope that provides a little more insite into it... like i said, you got questions just ask. theres tons of knowledgeable people on here.

[Garrison]

That's what I was thinking. It I've heard that its open and that the stis are closed so I might have problems? Also should I do Sti turbo and stuff or go aftermarket? I'm in class so it's har to read up on stuf now.

Here we go:

Your plans should shoot for 10-12psi, and tune from there. The sti block, yes it's true, is a closed deck, (my bad, it's semi-closed) but I've seen the open deck ej25d hold 40psi (Skully's build) without the cylinders ovalling.

Oem sti stuff is fine, but it will cost you. Make a true plan, and list of parts before you just start buying sh1t you think will help you.

[MonstarMotorsports]

other thing to think about when you do hybrids vs a complete swap. is when it breaks down or needs work, your going to have to remember what everything came from and figure out what you need from which car. you've got so many interchanges it might get a little difficult sometimes. where as if it was all complete from the same car. you can just pull into the dealer, say its a 02 wrx. treat it like one. plug in the select monitor and the computers going to think its looking at a 02 wrx. simple as that.

my rally car is a prime example. Im running a EJ25D motor, a 1.8L flywheel/clutch, and a wrx transmission that i had to convert to push type clutch. so its just a mix match of random shit. if i break my clutch fork, slave cylinder, or burn out my clutch, and someone read the numbers on the wrx tranny, and ordered the part based on those numbers.. we'll they'd be buying a part that wouldnt work. where as say i had a complete wrx drivetrain, no hybrid crap its as simple as read the numbers, order the wrx stuff, your off and going again. Im not knocking hybrid stuff by any means, it has its advantages... but it also comes with its complications. just be well informed and pay attention to what your doing.

Also forgot to hit on transmissions. you dont have to swap trannys for a motorswap. Unless you want too (assuming your auto and maybe wanting to go 5spd) but again, the more complete the drivetrain swap. the easier your lifes going to be. your going to make it even easier yet, if it comes from the same car as your motor swap.

[Bostonboy65]

I can get a complete ej205 with 5 speed trans and everything like shafts and all. It makes roughly 300hp. he wants 4k. The problem i have is that im broke and not even 18 yet lol. I was looking at buying a blown engine and rebuilding it spread the cash out and i figured if i had a factory ej205 id eventually put in new rods and such lol. Theres a guy with a blown ej205 with turbo for 200 but he wont replay!

[MonstarMotorsports]

been there and done that one too. its obviously possible. it just takes a long time, and in the long will probably cost more. But bout the same principal as financing a car. takes ya 5 years to pay it off, you pay thousands more in interest... but you still end up with the same result. I just dont have the patients any more now days to drag a build out that long lol. I have to make sure i can complete it in a year or less.

[Bostonboy65]

I here you and the guy replied he said he sold the coil, oil pan, and turbo. Said it had a bad know which he drove on it till he did a swap. What do you think could be wrong and what am I looking at doing to fix it? Should I get a stock turbo or something better?

[02_Legacy]

once your back inside its a matter of putting your interior back together. the only wiring your going to have to do is minor compared to trying to merge a couple engine harnesses. its a matter of just making door locks and window switches work, and your hvac work. all pretty basic and realtively easy to figure out. Since everything you just put in is all from the same wrx, its just a matter of turning the key, firing it up and go driving. no tuning, no problems. its pretty straight forward and pretty simple.

I can't believe that you would say that all the interior wiring is just basic. Now for you and me who i'm sure both have extensive training in automotive electrical, yes it would be easy. But for your average person, most don't even know what a wiring diagram is or how to read it. And even if they get that far they still need put what they know into practical use, finding tracing wires, connector pinouts, making solid connections, and then last but not least finding problems that they have created. I'm not saying it would be impossible, but I am saying it would be far from basic for your average person.

[Bostonboy65]

I completely re did the stereo in my car. Re ran all new wires to the doors, tapped into the vss for my gps and know how to hook stuff up. Itd be a challenge but I think I could figure it out. I just need to know if I should buy this ej205 for $200 with no turbo, oil pan, or coil. If some one Pam's me there number I can send pics.

[Dead91silvia]

the twin turbo doesnt work over here because it wont fit in a LHD car, thats why people convert to single. twin vs single in a rhd car has a lot of pro's and con's. just depends what you want your car set up for.

theres a Sti swapped legacy out on craigs right now for 11,500. So lets make this simple. can you afford to buy that car right now? If you can, go buy it. Will save you a lot of head aches. If you cant, stop thinking about a swap. its out of your budget lol.

But in all honestly. I wouldn't ever talk any one out of trying a swap. I love doing subaru swaps, they honestly arent that hard if you do them right and have the correct parts. You ever need help, feel free to message me. I've done dozens of swaps and sell complete swaps often.

One f the guys n here from Brazil did a TT swap on a LHD car. Cant remember what he did, but it's a Twin Turbo LHD car. Just thought I would toss that in the mix...

[MonstarMotorsports]

One f the guys n here from Brazil did a TT swap on a LHD car. Cant remember what he did, but it's a Twin Turbo LHD car. Just thought I would toss that in the mix...

you have to completely refab the exhaust system and move the second turbo. its a major pain and not worth it by any means lol. They dont fit because the steering rack on the lhd cars hits the second turbo.




I can't believe that you would say that all the interior wiring is just basic. Now for you and me who i'm sure both have extensive training in automotive electrical, yes it would be easy. But for your average person, most don't even know what a wiring diagram is or how to read it. And even if they get that far they still need put what they know into practical use, finding tracing wires, connector pinouts, making solid connections, and then last but not least finding problems that they have created. I'm not saying it would be impossible, but I am saying it would be far from basic for your average person.

i think wiring a door lock switch is basic compared to trying to merge two engine harnesses together is all i was saying. Far less wires to deal with, trace, splice, etc. maybe "basic" was the wrong word. lets go with easier.