Patrick Olsen
11-01-2013, 07:16 PM
I wasn't sure where exactly to stick this thread. I would guess the folks most likely to have swapped pumps would be the folks who've added forced induction, though, so this forum seems to make the most sense.
I started a thread in the Legacy forum on NASIOC, and Hondaslayer referred to a larger pump that older Legacys came with. He wasn't sure on the model years, but it looks like my '97 has what I think Hondaslayer was referring to. The plastic bag makes is kind of hard to see, but here's the new pump (from High Flow Performance - http://www.highflowfuel.com/ag-80849.81 ... -2-5l.html (http://www.highflowfuel.com/ag-80849.81166.81172.80667-1997-subaru-legacy-2-5l.html)) vs. the OEM pump:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/fuel20pump2020stock20vs20aftermarket-1.jpg
I haven't figured out how to mount the thing yet. The stock pump has a center outlet instead of an offset one, the filter options don't seem to make sense, and the lower cushion where the pump mounts into the bracket doesn't seem to work out right.
The stock lower cushion has an asymmetrical bump on the bottom that "locks in" with a hole in the bracket, like so:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/fuel20pump2020stock20lower20cushion-1.jpg
The lower cushion/sleeve thingy that HFP included with their pump has a bump on the bottom, too, which is basically just a U shape.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/fuel20pump2020aftermarket20lower20cushio-1.jpg
When it's seated in the bracket like that picture above, here's how the pump outlet lines up (or doesn't line up, to be more accurate) with the outlet hard line:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/fuel20pump2020hose20misalignment1-1.jpg
If I twist it a bit, and move the pump so that U-shaped bump in the lower cushion/sleeve lines up differently with the hole in the mounting bracket, I can get this:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/fuel20pump2020hose20misalignment3-1.jpg
That lines up a little bit better, but then I've got the pump sitting about 3/4-1" away from the bracket and not really held in place by anything other than the hose. And I'm not even sure the hose can deflect enough in that short distance to account for that offset. :smt017
And then there's the filter options. They included 2 different filters, the tiny one on the left, and the longer one on the right. However, the bigger filter mounts 180deg out (due to the location of the locking tab on it), which means it would never fit into the tank. :smt017
My very limited experience with aftermarket fuel pump installs was on my Mustang years ago, and in that case the 255lph Walbro pump was a direct swap for the stock pump, no changes to anything required. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with what I've got here for the Legacy, so I would appreciate any advice.
Thanks,
Pat
I started a thread in the Legacy forum on NASIOC, and Hondaslayer referred to a larger pump that older Legacys came with. He wasn't sure on the model years, but it looks like my '97 has what I think Hondaslayer was referring to. The plastic bag makes is kind of hard to see, but here's the new pump (from High Flow Performance - http://www.highflowfuel.com/ag-80849.81 ... -2-5l.html (http://www.highflowfuel.com/ag-80849.81166.81172.80667-1997-subaru-legacy-2-5l.html)) vs. the OEM pump:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/fuel20pump2020stock20vs20aftermarket-1.jpg
I haven't figured out how to mount the thing yet. The stock pump has a center outlet instead of an offset one, the filter options don't seem to make sense, and the lower cushion where the pump mounts into the bracket doesn't seem to work out right.
The stock lower cushion has an asymmetrical bump on the bottom that "locks in" with a hole in the bracket, like so:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/fuel20pump2020stock20lower20cushion-1.jpg
The lower cushion/sleeve thingy that HFP included with their pump has a bump on the bottom, too, which is basically just a U shape.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/fuel20pump2020aftermarket20lower20cushio-1.jpg
When it's seated in the bracket like that picture above, here's how the pump outlet lines up (or doesn't line up, to be more accurate) with the outlet hard line:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/fuel20pump2020hose20misalignment1-1.jpg
If I twist it a bit, and move the pump so that U-shaped bump in the lower cushion/sleeve lines up differently with the hole in the mounting bracket, I can get this:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/11/fuel20pump2020hose20misalignment3-1.jpg
That lines up a little bit better, but then I've got the pump sitting about 3/4-1" away from the bracket and not really held in place by anything other than the hose. And I'm not even sure the hose can deflect enough in that short distance to account for that offset. :smt017
And then there's the filter options. They included 2 different filters, the tiny one on the left, and the longer one on the right. However, the bigger filter mounts 180deg out (due to the location of the locking tab on it), which means it would never fit into the tank. :smt017
My very limited experience with aftermarket fuel pump installs was on my Mustang years ago, and in that case the 255lph Walbro pump was a direct swap for the stock pump, no changes to anything required. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with what I've got here for the Legacy, so I would appreciate any advice.
Thanks,
Pat