Do any manual transmissions hook up to the h6 3.0?

[99BKLOutbackWrx]

I have a cpl h6 3.0 motors was wondering if I could drop in any of my 5mt outbacks? I have a 96,99,03 all 5mt. Also a 99bk L, 3 ll bean h6 3.0, 99 OBS. Only the LL Bean are automatic. Can I put the 3.0 in any of those as a 5mt? Thank you.

If this has been covered I appreciate the link. I'm traveling for the holidays hard to browse on phone. Thank you

[Muse]

Well, it's essentially an EJ20 with two more cylinders, so it should be able to... But I really don't know how much work it would be, all told.

[amgarrety]

I'm no expert, but as far as I understand, the normal 5mt from a EJ20 or EJ25 won't work due to the number of splines. There is a 5mt for the 3.0 though, from the EZ30R.

[86bratman]

It's been done in a few imprezas, there isn't a manual h6 transmission of any kind. Use your choice of ej 5mt and matching clutch and flywheel.

[99BKLOutbackWrx]

It's been done in a few imprezas, there isn't a manual h6 transmission of any kind. Use your choice of ej 5mt and matching clutch and flywheel.

Is the stock 5mt in a 96 2.2 or 99, 00,03 2.5 outback qualify for your premise? I'm thinking up swapping the 00 2.5 with the 3.0. So ill have a 00 outback limited 5mt with a 3.0 for offroading and a 2.5 Ll Bean so I get the 4cylinder gas mileage with the Ll Bean luxury for traveling. I also have a 2002 wrx 5mt sitting here if that's what it will take for the 3.0.

[86bratman]

The wrx tranny would probably hold up better in the long run, but the gearing would be lacking.

[99BKLOutbackWrx]

I'm no expert, but as far as I understand, the normal 5mt from a EJ20 or EJ25 won't work due to the number of splines. There is a 5mt for the 3.0 though, from the EZ30R.

Following on this premise if there's a trans for the 3.0 would said trans fit up to a 99,00,03 outback? I'm sure it would be the gearing and all that would to need match and those type of things.

[99BKLOutbackWrx]

The wrx tranny would probably hold up better in the long run, but the gearing would be lacking.


I saw something where I would need 4.44 I think on some impreza project. Using that trans the other fellow was speaking of that ez30 or whatever. I just want lots of off road torque and towing in a stick plus the limited double roofs and leather.

I got a 99 outback Colorado package 5mt, a 00 limited 5mt, 03 outback basic 2.5 5mt, 01 h6 Ll bean, 01 h6 Ll bean, 02 h6 Ll bean. I want to make a 2.5 ll bean, a 3.0 limited 5mt, put a 2.2 in the 99, sell one Ll bean to fund projects and use the 03 as the donor for the 2.5 Ll bean. It sounds easy but I'm sure tons of work and money.

[86bratman]

There is a 4.44 5mt, most commonly available from a 04-08 Forester XT. The ez30 never came with a manual transmission from the factory, but it shares the same bellhousing and crank bolt patterns as the ej series engine, mechanically it will all bolt together. Certain years, later than what you're talking about, the wiring and ecu makes it all but impossible to manual swap, yours should be fairly simple. There is more info on this type swap on rs25.com

[GTDrifter]

There is a 4.44 5mt, most commonly available from a 04-08 Forester XT. The ez30 never came with a manual transmission from the factory, but it shares the same bellhousing and crank bolt patterns as the ej series engine, mechanically it will all bolt together. Certain years, later than what you're talking about, the wiring and ecu makes it all but impossible to manual swap, yours should be fairly simple. There is more info on this type swap on rs25.com
JDM gc8 sti were also 4.44. At least the type ra were

[99BKLOutbackWrx]

There is a 4.44 5mt, most commonly available from a 04-08 Forester XT. The ez30 never came with a manual transmission from the factory, but it shares the same bellhousing and crank bolt patterns as the ej series engine, mechanically it will all bolt together. Certain years, later than what you're talking about, the wiring and ecu makes it all but impossible to manual swap, yours should be fairly simple. There is more info on this type swap on rs25.com
JDM gc8 sti were also 4.44. At least the type ra were


Makes sense I keep seeing RS swaps with RA trans and 4.44


-Bratman you think those forester trans will fit in a 99, or 00 outback. I'm sorry if I'm being lazy and not browsing if all this heavily discussed somewhere. So is that what you are saying go with? Get a forester trans to hook to the ez30 and put that in a 00 outback limited? Or get a forester already 5mt and put the 3.0 in that and have a offroader? If I just find a blown forester 5mt drop the 3.0 in that instead of swapping engine and trans on a 00 outback that seems cheaper? Maybe not? Thanks

[86bratman]

I'd swap the outback to a manual honestly. I can't see being any more than 1500-2000 into a manual swap of the newer era stuff(honestly I'd be upset if it was that much but I like to shop around and find some really good deals). I picked up a complete manual swap from another member last month for just over $100 for my 97. But the newer transmissions are more expensive than the older.

[99BKLOutbackWrx]

I'd swap the outback to a manual honestly. I can't see being any more than 1500-2000 into a manual swap of the newer era stuff(honestly I'd be upset if it was that much but I like to shop around and find some really good deals). I picked up a complete manual swap from another member last month for just over $100 for my 97. But the newer transmissions are more expensive than the older.


So you think make the Ll bean manual by like putting a clutch pedal and all that? Or I have 3 outback already manual just put the 3.0 in one of those? I have 00 outback 5mt I want to put the 3.0 in that's where the idea comes from. They look the same the 00 outback limited 5mt and the 01 Ll Bean. Thanks.

[Subafreak]

I would say your best bet is to put a manual tranny into one of the LL Beans. As long as you have a manual parts car you will have everything you need to do it, and it would require the least amount of wiring. But even so the ECU will still throw a check engine light for the tranny not being there. As far as I have been able to find there is no cure for this other than running a full stand alone ECU.
It woulndt cause a run problem but you would never be able to get it though emissions.

[GTDrifter]

I would say your best bet is to put a manual tranny into one of the LL Beans. As long as you have a manual parts car you will have everything you need to do it, and it would require the least amount of wiring. But even so the ECU will still throw a check engine light for the tranny not being there. As far as I have been able to find there is no cure for this other than running a full stand alone ECU.
It woulndt cause a run problem but you would never be able to get it though emissions.
You can always remove the bulb lol. Also he lives in Michigan eoth no inspections or emissions so no issue there :smt023

[Subafreak]

Oh....in that case go for it! Lol.

[dodik]

i'd suggest installing 5mp into already running LL Bean, this will minimize the work that needs to be done. Swapping engines will requrie merging or swapping harnesses and then making 5mp work.
From what i know any EJ tranny will bolt up to EZ motors with no issues. your hardest part will be wiring to fool the car into not knowing that AT has been removed.

On this forum find Ketlik did it, and you can also search nasioc conversions h6 resource thread
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=12871 (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=12871)

[Wiscon_Mark]

But even so the ECU will still throw a check engine light for the tranny not being there. As far as I have been able to find there is no cure for this other than running a full stand alone ECU.

Xcntrk75 had a fix for this - he plugged the TCU back in and just left it there. This may not work on a newer 4EAT/5EAT to 5MT swap, his was on a 97GT 4EAT, IIRC.

[99BKLOutbackWrx]

You guys are all awesome. Tons of help. It allows a more focused research. Okay ill take a 5mt out of the yards somewhere and do it. Instead of tearing up 2 cars. Like Harry said what emissions? Factory city over here. I will just get everything out of a wrecked car for the swap then ill have a extra 4eat laying around for the other h6 cars. Sweet. Thanks again.


I'm thinking ill need a 4.44 trans possibly? Maybe not just a stock 01 outback 5mt? Maybe a uk version? If that exists? Just few things I ran across. Possibly a JDM 5mt? But then are we talking rear axle swaps if not a 4.44 trans? Hmm

[dodik]

4.44 was an outback only if im not mistaken, stock h6 is 4.11 so i'd keep it at that

[Subafreak]

Well if your going for Off-road then you want the lowest gears possible. Ideally a duel-range 5 speed, but those are pricy and hard to find.
The cheapest way is to just go with the stock 4:11 gears. The 5 speed outbacks and legacy GT,s would be the tranny to look for to match the LSD rearend that is already in your H6 outback. ;)

[99BKLOutbackWrx]

Well if your going for Off-road then you want the lowest gears possible. Ideally a duel-range 5 speed, but those are pricy and hard to find.
The cheapest way is to just go with the stock 4:11 gears. The 5 speed outbacks and legacy GT,s would be the tranny to look for to match the LSD rearend that is already in your H6 outback. ;)

I wouldn't say serious offroad but definitely 2 tracks and loose stuff nothing mud bogging or climbing. Possibly pulling a trailer. Prob need a trans cooler just to be safe.



Does year matter? I have a 2002 wrx tranny, a 99 2.2 tranny? And I also have a 99 outback and a 00 outback. I know 96-99 then 00 is new design. Im gonna locate a 01 5mt since the Ll Bean is a 01 I'm using. I'm not worried about emissions so it sounds like other than the clutch pedal and shifter housing should be relatively straight forward. Famous last words!



-anybody within 6 hours or so of Detroit thinks they could xyz this swap together if I supply the parts and cover labor let me know. Rather spend it in the sli community than at a shop.

[Muse]

I think you'll need the brake pedal, too, since the manual brake pedal is significantly smaller than the Automatic's. Not sure if you could just swap the footplate of the pedal, or if you need the whole arm.

[86bratman]

The clutch and brake pedals are part of an assembly. They unbolt from the firewall together.

[oskar_subaru]

It's been done in a few imprezas, there isn't a manual h6 transmission of any kind. Use your choice of ej 5mt and matching clutch and flywheel.

Fourth gen, the 3.0R (usa) and Spec B (europe) had a optional 6speed without DCCD

[rkrenicki]

No.. There was no H6 in the USA with a manual gearbox in any year. Just in Europe and I think one Japanese model.

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[oskar_subaru]

No.. There was no H6 in the USA with a manual gearbox in any year. Just in Europe and I think one Japanese model.

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a good friend of mine took delivery of a used usdm import 3.0R and that had a 6speed

[Wiscon_Mark]

a good friend of mine took delivery of a used usdm import 3.0R and that had a 6speed

It wasn't stock or it wasn't USDM, then.