WRX

[Oldbravada19]

Does any one know if it is an easy swap to put the Brand New WRX calipers with the white lettering on a 97 legacy GT wagon

[belladonna]

you should compare the rotor size first

[Perdue]

The 4-pots you're speaking of (the red brakes that come on the 06+ WRX) are realatively the same as the V5/6 STi 4 pots that I have. You'll also need pad to fit them of course, and the rotor size is the same as the 02+ WRXs. The fronts will bolt up, but the rears require a new hub, backing plate, or something along those lines. HTH

[Oldbravada19]

THANKS JUST LOOKING INTO POSSIBLE UPGRADES FOR THE lEGACY I DONT EVEN HAVE YET HAHAHAH. THE REASON I ASK IS THAT THEY WILL PROBABLY BE CHEAPER THAN A WILWOOD OR STOPTECH SYSTEM AND I LIKE RED CALIPERS. AND PAINTING FLOATING CALIPERS IMHO IS RICE WHICH I AM TRYING TO AVOID

[scottzg]

tip: when using the internet, shouting and giving worthless thread titles is not reccomended.

[Wiscon_Mark]

WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT US?

It would require quite a bit of modification, hubs, bigger wheels to fit the 4pots, etc

[phi11]

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/07/caplock-1.jpg

[scottzg]

WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT US?

It would require quite a bit of modification, hubs, bigger wheels to fit the 4pots, etc

hubs?

only non 02-05 wrx wheels for the front ones.

[Wiscon_Mark]

hubs for the rears, I meant.

reiterating what Perdue said, as he has experience with installing the 4 pots on a Legacy.

[2.5GT]

one question related to this topic.

any ideas if a sti or just plain wrx rotors will fit the BD without any problems? using same calipers and pads on the BD?

[blackgtbeauty]

one question related to this topic.

any ideas if a sti or just plain wrx rotors will fit the BD without any problems? using same calipers and pads on the BD?

nopi.

[2.5GT]

one question related to this topic.

any ideas if a sti or just plain wrx rotors will fit the BD without any problems? using same calipers and pads on the BD?

nopi.

Fact or Opinion?

[scottzg]

one question related to this topic.

any ideas if a sti or just plain wrx rotors will fit the BD without any problems? using same calipers and pads on the BD?

sti stuff will not fit without changing calipers and brackets. Not every year sti rotor will work either.

Wrx stuff might work on gt calipers if you get wrx caliper brackets. If you have the same brakes as a 97-2000 2.5rs, then it will. This would trade stopping distance for thermal capacity; so if you've never cooked your brakes anyway, it wouldn't be a good idea.

the best thing you can do is get good pads, like minex, axxis ultimates or MM's, or hawks. They bolt in and there's almost no downside.

[blackgtbeauty]

one question related to this topic.

any ideas if a sti or just plain wrx rotors will fit the BD without any problems? using same calipers and pads on the BD?

sti stuff will not fit without changing calipers and brackets. Not every year sti rotor will work either.

Wrx stuff might work on gt calipers if you get wrx caliper brackets. If you have the same brakes as a 97-2000 2.5rs, then it will. This would trade stopping distance for thermal capacity; so if you've never cooked your brakes anyway, it wouldn't be a good idea.

the best thing you can do is get good pads, like minex, axxis ultimates or MM's, or hawks. They bolt in and there's almost no downside.

my wordS exactly, not an opinion.

[ivwarrior]

[quote="2.5GT":1l4f5knp]one question related to this topic.

any ideas if a sti or just plain wrx rotors will fit the BD without any problems? using same calipers and pads on the BD?

nopi.

Fact or Opinion?[/quote:1l4f5knp]

Newer (05? and up) STi rotors definately won't work without a lot of work as it uses a different bolt circle than most of the rest of the Subaru line-up. You have to change hubs and wheels minimum. Probably more.

[2.5GT]

one question related to this topic.

any ideas if a sti or just plain wrx rotors will fit the BD without any problems? using same calipers and pads on the BD?

sti stuff will not fit without changing calipers and brackets. Not every year sti rotor will work either.

Wrx stuff might work on gt calipers if you get wrx caliper brackets. If you have the same brakes as a 97-2000 2.5rs, then it will. This would trade stopping distance for thermal capacity; so if you've never cooked your brakes anyway, it wouldn't be a good idea.

the best thing you can do is get good pads, like minex, axxis ultimates or MM's, or hawks. They bolt in and there's almost no downside.

my word exactly, not an opinion.

If you were a little more elaborate of what you're saying, then i would understand.

Im thinking of upgrading my brakes so i ask.

Thanks tho :eek:

[scottzg]

my word exactly, not an opinion.

huh?

[blackgtbeauty]

my word exactly, not an opinion.

huh?

i was just saying that from what i know and understand, i agree with what you said, that's all.

with the rears i'm 100% that if you change the rear caliper bracket, you can use a WRX rear rotor, but you just need a 16" wheel. i plan on doing the same soon i hope.

[scottzg]

why would you swap to wrx rear brakes? they're the same as what you've got.

[blackgtbeauty]

i'm just going by what i've seen and what sean @ rallitek told me. be it what it be.

is it true you cannot put anything smaller than a 16" on a wrx? if you can, then I stand corrected.

[AussieDan]

The WRX front brakes won't fit under anything smaller than 16", I'm running them with a set of 16" RS 5-spokes right now.

The WRX rears are the same as stock LGT or RS rears, the H6 rears are larger diameter, and AFAIK won't fit under a 15" rim.

[Perdue]

The STi Brembo Front Calipers will bolt up in front. You need to change the backing plate for both the Version 5/6 rear calipers (the 4 pot style), or the newer brembo rear caliper. Brembo however makes a caliper, of the same style, that will bolt up to the stock backing plate...price is up there.

The Red Calipers cost more than the regular black ones. I'm not sure why. You can spend the same money and get a Racing Brake setup for the front from Boxer4Racing. The plus side to the Racing Brake setup is that it bolts up, uses the same pads and rotors as the 4-pots (now a OEM item in the US, so it won't be hard to get the pads and rotors for years to come), and they fit under any OEM Subaru 16" wheel (makes the search for winter wheels a lot easier).

Any brake kit that will simply bolt onto the WRX will fit the Legacys to my knowledge, with the exception of the V5/6 2-pot Rears or STi Brembo Rears.

If there's any other questions, I'll try to answer them.

[Oldbravada19]

Sorry guys i wasn't trying to "Shout" at my work all the typing we do is in Capitol letters. so my keyboard was on capslock. sorry for the confusion. thanks for the replies.

[subieyacht]

kartboy makes that adapter for the two pot rears. i guess you have to call them though

[rougeben83]

Most effective brake upgrade is to address the front brakes.

Most cost effective brakeupgrade is to change the pads and bleed the fluid.

[scottzg]

Most effective brake upgrade is to address the front brakes.

Most cost effective brakeupgrade is to change the pads and bleed the fluid.

+1

[subieyacht]

for the 4 pots, you can run a 16 inch wheel, but it has to be atleast 7in(?) wide, like the 98 rs 5 spokes.

[Zubi Zubi]

Correct: you must run at least a WRX 16x7... but perhaps this may be of assistance?

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?t=3657

[rougeben83]

4pots WRX brakes will clear 15"...15" rally-specific wheels what is.

[Zubi Zubi]

And just in case you missed it...

Voilà!

'93 GX
WRX 16x7
4 pot brakes (w/ vented slotted rotors)

As you can see, plenty of clearance behind those wheels to accomodate 4 pots, so don't let anyone tell you it can't be done! :grin:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/

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Pads (Bendix Ultimates) still need to bed in but should be OK within a few hundred km. Coupled to the Cusco brake booster... :shock:

This mod probably gives an equal bang for buck (and Grin Factor!) as installing a big rear swaybar (20-22mm) I was giggling like a moron all the way home... :grin:

[Wiscon_Mark]

Those aren't WRX wheels...at least not here in the states, those are 2.5RS wheels.

[Huffer]

Those aren't WRX wheels...at least not here in the states, those are 2.5RS wheels.

Doesnt really matter - they are Subaru's premiere 97/98 wheels - and are 16" diameter, and they fit 4pot brakes.

[Zubi Zubi]

Thanks Huffer :grin:

While I get your point Wiscon_Mark (and the point of this thread was to illustate how easy it was to swap WRX calipers on Legacy's) in Australia these cars aren't called Legacy's either but we all know we're talking about the same thing :wink:

Ergo...

... whether they are or aren't "WRX wheels[...] in the states" is not the point: the point is that these are 1. Subaru factory wheels (available throughout the World) and 2. Will take Subaru 4 pots. So if these wheels happen to be 2.5RS wheels 'in the states', substitute accordingly *sigh * shakes head *

[Wiscon_Mark]

Honestly, dude, I wasn't paying attention, and didn't realize you were from Australia. My apologies, and a tongue (or key) lashing well deserved.

[Zubi Zubi]

Liberty, Legacy... WRX, RS...

It's all Subaru my friend :smt041

[Huffer]

Sweet avatar Zubi!

[Zubi Zubi]

And here's my inspiration...

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l1/Il_dottore/Subaru/SubaruDavideI.jpg

(Sorry for off topic, Mods! :wink: )