fwa's '08 Legacy 3.0R Limited - A new beginning

[fwa2500]

Well, I finally got something newer. The wagon was really starting to show its age and was no longer reliable. I was originally looking for a third gen of some flavor, either a Baja Turbo or an H6 Outback but between the known issues with that gen turbo engine and the outback only coming with beige interior I settled on a 4th gen. Again, wanting more power but also not wanting turbo issues there was really only one option. The 3.0R Limited.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/03/16583108069_4d22f51a71_c-1.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fwa2500/16583108069/)


Basic Stats
2008 Subaru Legacy 3.0R Limited
-Obsidian Black Pearl
-3.0 DOHC n/a (EZ30)
—245hp
-5EAT Sportshift w/ SI-Drive
-AWD
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/03/349579png-1.jpg (http://www.fuelly.com/car/subaru/legacy/2008/fwa2500/349579)

Modifications
Interior
-Dashcam
-LED door/puddle lights
-LED map and dome lights
-Tint (20% sides and rear)
-WeatherTech all-weather floor mats front and rear

Exterior
-HID low beams (35W, 5000K)
-LED high beams (80W)
-LED license plate lights
-LED reverse lights
-LED tail lights
-Morimoto XB LED fog lights
-JDM K2 Gear LED twin-tube mirror indicators
-Black wrapped tail light trim
-Black dipped grill “wing”
-"TapTurn" module
-V-Limited replica front lip

Engine and Exhaust
-JDM battery cover
-AEM panel filter
-Turbo XS axelbacks
-Kartboy XL exhaust hangers

Suspension, Wheels and Tyres
-Andros Spec D 18x8"
—235x40R18 Dunlop Direzza DZ102 (summer)
-JDM Legacy GT-B 5-spoke 17x7"
—215x50R17 General Altimax Arctic (winter)
-StopTech Street Performance brake pads
-Whiteline 20mm rear sway bar
-AVO rear sway bar bracket
-KYB Excel-G struts
-H&R Sport lowering springs
-Whiteline Com C front top hats
-Paranoid Fabrications saggy butt spacers

To-Do (Stuff that is ready to be done)
-Light smoke tinted tail lights
-Wingless trunk
-Partial de-badge (will leave the 3.0R)
-CyberSport trunk lip spoiler
-Small rear window visor spoiler

Planned (Stuff that might happen eventually)
-Front sway bar
-Solid endlinks
-’06-07 Outback hood with “power bulges”
-Mesh grill
-JDM double-din radio surround w/ hazard switch
-Aftermarket double-din radio
-JDM/EUDM final revision HID headlights or custom alternative

[soba noodle]

Niiiice, not a bad upgrade I have to say: 2nd gen ---> 4th gen facelift :thumbleft:

[fwa2500]

Not to mention the jump from a 2.2 H4 putting out 135hp (when new, supposedly) to a 245hp 3.0 H6 with a small mountain of torque. This thing is like a rocket ship in comparison and I love it. It is also considerable more fuel efficient than my wagon has become.

[Lancaster6]

Hey now, all you had to do with the H6 Outback is swap the interior out. And that job is really easy and totally not a pain in the ass. /sarcasm

Hahah, seriously though these 4th gen 3.0 Legacies are really nice looking. Congrats on the new purchase!

[98legwag]

Very nice. You and I did the same upgrade except both my cars are a year newer. I highly recommend a Tribeca FSB and a bigger RSB with reinforcement brackets on the 3.0R. The mounting brackets for the RSB on the 4th gen are pretty weak and can bend easily with an upgraded RSB.

[geckoboy86]

Yay for more 4th gen 3.0Rs.

[98legwag]

Oh and since your car should have the Bilstiens, lowering springs will be limited. The Bilstiens have a different front top hat from the GT KYB struts. Some springs are designed for one or the other. All will bolt on to both sets, but the front may sit higher or lower depending on which the springs are designed for and used on. From what I have read, the springs people like most for the Bilstiens are the JDM pinks and Swifts. There is good info on legacygt.com, but that site can be kind of similar to Nasioc with the way people respond.

[Hinyo]

=) yay for the new car. hopefully you aren't planning on letting the old girl go?

[fwa2500]

A couple better photos:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/03/16583108069_4d22f51a71_c-1.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fwa2500/16583108069/)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/03/16146951764_7682900290_c-1.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fwa2500/16146951764/)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/03/16743373406_ab6eb20556_c-1.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fwa2500/16743373406/)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/03/16149329823_cc617b02d9_c-1.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fwa2500/16149329823/)
(Had that guy in the back window of the wagon for about the past 5 years)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/03/16581870490_c7dba55ffb_c-1.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fwa2500/16581870490/)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/03/16561995857_a7a5070b07_c-1.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fwa2500/16561995857/)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/03/16561996927_05e7cd29dc_c-1.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fwa2500/16561996927/)

It really could use a full detail, but I am quite happy with it so far.


Oh and since your car should have the Bilstiens, lowering springs will be limited. The Bilstiens have a different front top hat from the GT KYB struts. Some springs are designed for one or the other. All will bolt on to both sets, but the front may sit higher or lower depending on which the springs are designed for and used on. From what I have read, the springs people like most for the Bilstiens are the JDM pinks and Swifts. There is good info on legacygt.com, but that site can be kind of similar to Nasioc with the way people respond.

I used to be on there but I left a few years ago after a new moderator pulled some BS and stole a FAQ that I put together without crediting me, unpinned my topic and locked it...I was starting to look into going aftermarket with the suspension again, but whatever I end up doing is still a long ways down the road, I have other things that I need to take care of first (and it is kinda nice having a comfortable car again).


=) yay for the new car. hopefully you aren't planning on letting the old girl go?

Unfortunately that is likely what will happen. I need to see first how much the repair on it will cost before I decide if I will sell it or part it out, but that is yet to be determined.

[soba noodle]

She's soooo virgin...:o

[98legwag]

I like the OBP. And your wheels are definitely darker than mine. I knew they came in silver and a gunmetal like color. I much prefer yours.

[Huffer]

Looks nice man! What did you do with the waggy?
I really miss trunk space with a sedan... #longrooflife

[Navi271]

What's the mileage on this one?
I like that a few of us have moved from a wagon to sedan, but I'm the odd one out with the turbo lol.

Congrats on the new car!

[Yamazaki]

Somehow I missed this thread earlier. Yay for more 3.0L Legacys!
It looks real good too...

[Reuben]

Sad that my USDM broskie for beast may be no more, that BK and my BG are what kicked off our friendship all those years ago. But onwards and upwards, you've picked a bloody nice replacement, I fricken adore the EZ's! Don't worry, Beast is in no danger of going anywhere, and you'll def be given the keys when you finally come say hi!

First mod. Getatunelol :D (there is so much untapped potential in those motors!)

[fwa2500]

I'd love to see this thing continue on with someone else that can give it the love it needs (maybe even swap it!), parting out is the last resort...and to be pedantic, I think X-Plane started it all....holy shit, what has it been, nearly 12 years now? It looks like I joined the .org in '04 but I can't remember if there was time before that. Ah, memories...

Side note, fix your signature! Links are broke-as :tongue10:


Put in LED license plate bulbs in last night, the quest for a modern and comfortable cruiser has begun!

[Reuben]

I tried to the other day, but the profile UI makes no sense... *shakes cane at frustrating new technology*

[98legwag]

Put in LED license plate bulbs in last night

When I did that it was a nightmare. I kept dropping the LED in the compartment for the bulb. Once it was done and I got used to how bright the LEDs were I was pleased.

[fwa2500]

LEDs are almost all in, low/high are done, license plate lights are done and I have the indicator bulbs. I'm still not thrilled with the performance of the projectors, there wasn't as much of a performance boost over the halogens as I was hoping for (not near as much as with my friend's 2015 WRX)...but holy balls the high beams are like turning on two mini-Suns on the front of the car :lolz: I also swapped the fogs to yellow bulbs as I have grown to like them on the wagon. I'm just waiting on the controller to arrive before swapping the turn indicators over as well. I ordered a unit that will allow for one tap indication (one tap=3 flashes along with several other functions) like you find on lots of modern Euro cars. I'm not sure if I will swap the tails to LED or not, they are pretty solidly bright as is, I'm also torn on doing the interior lights and door puddle lights.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/03/LfiMjyt-1.jpg

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I also found a playmate for it...

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/03/crTrbKF-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/03/1InEM1g-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/03/G99gvBQ-1.jpg

Such a sexy beast....


This afternoon I will also be changing out the front rotors and doing pads on all corners just to have a fresh start as well as putting in new front wheel well liners as they were slightly torn up (I think the previous owner munched them on a parking curb).

[98legwag]

Hot damn, thats a nice playmate. What LED kits did you go with for the lows and highs? I swapped my interior LEDs over from my wagon when I bought my 3.0R. I recommend putting them in. There are pics in my thread linked in my signature.

[rkrenicki]

Side note, fix your signature! Links are broke-as :tongue10:


I tried to the other day, but the profile UI makes no sense... *shakes cane at frustrating new technology*

I fixed your signature a few days ago, not sure if you noticed.. In fact, I fixed everyones signatures one by one. No more broken sig links.

[fwa2500]

What LED kits did you go with for the lows and highs?

They are both the 80W bulbs from NewBrights on Amazon, they highs are great but I think I'm going to switch the lows to HIDs and return the H7 LEDs, I think the lack of performance is due to the LED unit being better suited to reflector housings as opposed to projectors.

[98legwag]

OK. Thanks. I may look into the high beams.

[Navi271]

All my interior lights are LEDs. I'd recommend doing it if you're still on the fence. I love the bright puddle lights the most, being able to see far away at night when I open my door.

[soba noodle]

+1 for interior LEDs

[soba noodle]

Have these for map lights, one panel for each side: http://www.ebay.com/itm/331086497423
Two of these panels for the main dome light: http://www.ebay.com/itm/231112786654 and two more5 panels in the trunk(bright enough, no need for LED strips or anything).
Some basic LEDs for door lights.

[fwa2500]

I had most of the internal lights in the wagon converted to LEDs, the warm white I had in the dome lights were fine, but I just wasn't a fan of the cool white on the interior.

[fwa2500]

On Friday I swapped the reverse lights over to LEDs, love the result, Saturday I tried putting LED switchback bulbs in the front corners and blew a couple fuses, so I think I'm just going to go back to normal bulbs for the turn signals. I think the slower flash suits a Japanese car better anyway (ze Germans can keep their crisp LED turn signals...). Yesterday I swapped the brake lights to LEDs, those I like a lot.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/04/TLP5LTF-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/04/qd2Ymix-1.jpg

I'm also experimenting with LED interior lights but am not sure I like them, I will be keeping the LED puddle lights though (you can kinda see them in the background of those pics).

[fwa2500]

So as it turns out the HID bulb bases on the new-style Morimoto bulbs are *JUST* too long to clear the caps. Grrrrr...Back to halogens until I can figure something out, might order a pair of DDM bulbs as those still have the traditional bulb base style. I will also be going back to standard bulbs for the turn signals, just not feeling the LEDs there, I'm currently looking for some of those mirror-coated ones but haven't found any that have decent reviews yet. Next up: tyres, I keep going back and forth between a couple different ones but will likely get the same model Hankooks I have on the JDM wheels from last summer.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/04/17205051555_ca20d8e3a2_c-1.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/fwa2500/17205051555/)

[geckoboy86]

Few questions.

What dash cam did you go with and did you hard wire it?

And what "TapTurn" module did you use?

[fwa2500]

Few questions.

What dash cam did you go with and did you hard wire it?

I got one of these (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F2GMUPU/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3EOB49LGWP1FK&coliid=IA0FQ9X5FNWUR&psc=1) cheapies from Amazon a while back for the wagon and transferred it over to the 3.0R, I haven't gotten around to hardwiring it but I am debating saving up for a better unit.


And what "TapTurn" module did you use?

I got one of these. (http://www3.telus.net/s_mcphee/orderTAP.html) It also solves the hyperflashing issue with LEDs which was part of the reason I got it, but now I decided to go back to standard bulbs for the turn signals.

[soba noodle]

Is that TapTurn module direct plug'n'play? Cheers

[fwa2500]

Yep! Just unplug the stock relay and plug that in and away you go.

[geckoboy86]

Did you get the strobe package with yours? How would you rate this product? Does it work well?

[fwa2500]

I just got the basic one and so far I like it. The only issue I have had is my own not being used to just tapping the stalk, once you get used to how lightly you tap it isnt bad at all. A bit expensive, yes, but I dig the features and have always wanted one-touch functionality like this.

[fwa2500]

Now with 20% tint on the sides and rear.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/05/kOFsw2i-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/05/DLIeccC-1.jpg


I am also still trying to find something that will completely remove all the baked on brake dust, the stuff I have works great if you stay on top of it but not so well when it is as baked on as it is now. Next up: new tyres.

[fwa2500]

Hit 077,077 miles today and finally got the HIDs going. I had to order bulbs from a different manufacturer since the new Morimoto ones are too long for the stock caps.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/05/LnlbriL-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/05/ZJks5LE-1.jpg

Next up is swapping the turn signals back to standard bulbs, I never did get the switchback LEDs to work correctly...

[98legwag]

Sweet. I am assuming you had to drill into the caps for the wires? What brand bulbs did you go with?

[fwa2500]

Ya, same deal as on the wagon, I ends dup grabbing some 5000k "Kensun" bulbs off Amazon, they have the normal generic bulb base and clear the caps just fine.

Today a mystery box from Japan showed up…

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/05/vAv7QY4-1.jpg

Before:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/05/SKdZM1G-1.jpg

After:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/05/sCG2aU8-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/05/CtkPsL3-1.jpg

Still need to track down the cover for the other side but it is still a big improvement!

[SpeedmanRC]

looks real good, have always loved the 4th gen sedan. Going H6 will be a nice upgrade.

[geckoboy86]

Here is an idea for ya. One of the thing I did to detail my engine bay was go over all the yellow caps with a black sharpie so that anything raised in the cap was black.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/04/IMG_7618-1.jpg

[fwa2500]

Picked up a Whiteline 20mm rear sway bar from a local guy on friday and installed it today, the thing is massive compared to the stock bar.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/05/O9DoOLl-1.jpg
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While swapping the bars the mufflers needed to be disconnected…so naturally I had to see how it sounds. Holy crap exhaust has bumped WAY up the "to buy" list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l_26N45yME

[soba noodle]

Haha that's what my one sounded like with the Kakimoto mid section :D
Noticed any improvements in handling? Don't think my stock bar was that small though O_o

[98legwag]

Haha that's what my one sounded like with the Kakimoto mid section :D
Noticed any improvements in handling? Don't think my stock bar was that small though O_o

Your car probably had the stock JDM 20mm rsb. Over here we got a 16mm rsb. And for FWA, I recommend adding a Tribeca front sway bar. It makes a big difference on these cars. But you will need to unbolt the headers to do the swap.

[soba noodle]

Your car probably had the stock JDM 20mm rsb. Over here we got a 16mm rsb. And for FWA, I recommend adding a Tribeca front sway bar. It makes a big difference on these cars. But you will need to unbolt the headers to do the swap.

I think mine was 18 or 19, noticeably smaller than 21mm Z/S that replaced it.
I'd recommend some good swaybar links too.

Dropping the headers wasn't too bad (with some help of a mighty breaking bar :D)

[fwa2500]

The bar made a massive difference, I'm sure the reinforcement and endlinks will help even more. I will also eventually get a beefier front bar (might as well go with a Tribeca bar again, loved it on the wagon) and endlinks too.

Some better photos with the tint and HIDs:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/06/17662880313_63bb61192d_c-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/sUNSXc)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/06/18257037326_d9fcc33115_c-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/tPj68C)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/06/18097289009_45169d232c_c-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/tzckwi)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/06/18097292959_bb219e3eb8_c-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/tzcmGp)

I'm still failing at getting all the brake dust off the wheels though...that is as clean as I could manage.

[fwa2500]

I got a thing!

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/06/ssX0wQS-1.jpg

[98legwag]

I think I know! Mainly because if its what I am thinking, I ordered that too a while back.

[fwa2500]

I got another thing! (or four…)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/06/ru4eXKm-1.jpg

They will be going on a little later in the summer after doing something with the suspension (might just do springs for now and the struts in a year or so).

[98legwag]

Very nice. Details on the 4 things?

[fwa2500]

They are Andros Spec Ds (made for and bought from Tire Rack) in 18x8. They are pretty light for their size at 19.5lbs. I will be going with 235/40r18 summers and doing at least springs at the same time. The AVO bits are, as I suspect you guessed, rear sway brackets. I'm hoping to have all of this on and done in the next month or so. All the other cosmetic stuff like wingless trunk and "power bulge" hood I am shooting for next year though I am sure something will sneak into this year...

[98legwag]

Those wheels should look nice when they get installed. I was thinking they were the rsb brackets. Have you decided on which springs you will go with?

[fwa2500]

Right now I'm leaning toward Swifts, they seem to be the best option for the Bilsteins without being too expensive or hard to find like the JDM STi pinks.

[Wagonista]

Wait a minute, the Levorg is actually a thing now!?

[fwa2500]

It would seem so, yet another model we will never get here :(

http://www.subaru.jp/levorg/levorg/

[fwa2500]

Soon.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/07/jibtdmr-1.jpg

Getting closer...

[fwa2500]

Lip installed:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/07/FJKIpKM-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/07/EeudoPd-1.jpg

It definitely needs moar low...


AVO sway bar brackets installed:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/07/9YinxBN-1.jpg

The plan is to put the wheels and tyres on on Monday.

[98legwag]

Looking good. Which brand lip is that? I have been considering a lip for my car. Even found one local but passed on it.

[fwa2500]

Today's mission was a success.

Loaded everything up and went over to a friend's shop:

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https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/07/ttXdUBG-1.jpg

I am very happy with how they look on the car.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/07/B9CwhJw-1.jpg

Up next: suspension.

[98legwag]

Looks good. What are you planning on for the center caps?

[fwa2500]

I had been hoping I could make the stock caps work but they are *JUST* too small. I think I'm going to try to track down some Subaru stickers for the ones that came with the wheels and just go with that.

[98legwag]

That is a good idea. I am still trying to decide on what wheels I want. I may wait till next spring at this point and kill off the tires I currently have since they are feathered. The previous owner of my car apparently didn't believe in alignments. The tires have been feathered since I bought it.

[geckoboy86]

I finally got to your PM. Sorry for the late response.

[fwa2500]

On Saturday I blacked out the chrome strips on the tail lights, I definitely like the look but I have discovered I am complete crap at vinyl. I need to co back and re-do them for the 5th time...

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Strut and spring upgrade has been a complete success. Now rolling on brand new KYBs with H&R sport springs. The swap was done on Sunday with the help from a couple friends and we also knocked out brake pad an oil changes on their cars.

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Front gap before:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/08/1CtTebT-1.jpg

Front gap after:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/08/8UQstXX-1.jpg

Rear gap is just a hair lower than it was before but nowhere near as spongey, also now has saggy butt spacers resulting in a slight forward rake, just the way I like it.

On the alignment rack at TIC:

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End result:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/08/ddzTYC4-1.jpg

This feels SOOOOOOOO much better than the stock Bilsteins and still quite comfortable (better ride than the coilovers on the wagon were which were better than the STi stuff before that). I'm not spending any more for a little while, next up in a month or so will be figuring out something with the exhaust.

[98legwag]

Very nice. I think geckoboy86 wants some Bilsteins....for the right price. Any particular reason you chose to go to the KYBs instead of keeping the Bilsteins? I am assuming you got the right top hats for the KYBs as well.

[98legwag]

Oh, there is someone on legacygt.com selling SPT mufflers.

http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/slc-ut-spt-sedan-mufflers-244177.html

Edit- I saw in your plans that you want an 07 Outback hood. The 05-07 hood is different and does not fit the 08-09.

[fwa2500]

The part numbers I'm finding for the scooped and flat hoods appear to be the same from 05-09, I don't see why the bulge one would be any different. The non-USDM facelift Outbacks also came with them while ours got those horrid chrome-trimmed things:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/08/Subaru_Outback_front_20080202-1.jpg

(I also really want a set of those headlights but they are quite hard to find as it turns out...)

[soba noodle]

I like how it sits now!

Re: Bilsteins.
I found them to be a bit harsh when you go over small road cracks at lower speeds. That was causing some interior squeaks, especially the vents under the windscreen always came to alive. Ohlins solved this for me, never had any squeaks since then, even at the firmest settings.

Re: headlights.
Seen some on Yahoo for something like JPY20,000-30,000 a few times (that's for a pair).

[fwa2500]

I found the US-spec Bilsteins to be way too soft, they felt horribly under-dampened to me and would wallow about after going over a bump. Not to mention the nose dives under braking and squat under acceleration. The KYB/H&R combo has cured all of that. I'm quite happy with how it feels now (though I would still like to get Kartboy end links and Tibeca front sway bar again at some point). As for the lights, every time I have looked on there and on Croooober it always seems they are selling just the left or right lights. The one time I saw a pair listed in the US they were asking something crazy like $1200 for them, no way I am paying that. I'll keep looking, but as with all the other planned mods I am in no rush and quite happy where the car is now :)

Speaking of that, I just ran out for a couple quick photos…

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/08/20531792180_f1261c87fc_c-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xhjNuU)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/08/20693560506_f7a9b050fb_c-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xwBUzY)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/08/20098861263_0eb3404744_c-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/wC4VdK)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/08/20531805030_c001c11558_c-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/xhjSjs)

I need to invest in a new graduated ND filter, it will come in handy now that I have a black car.

[98legwag]

Such nice photos. And yeah, the USDM Bilsteins are equvilant to the JDM GT Rev C Bilsteins, not even any JDM Spec B Bilstiens. The US spec cars are much softer. With that said, I do like them. But I want the front to sit a touch lower. Maybe someday I will get JDM GT Pinks or try to track down some Eibach/Epic springs (discontinued) and get Konis.

[98legwag]

I am curious, any rubbing issues with the new wheels/tires and suspension set up?

[fwa2500]

None that I have noticed, it seems to be just about perfect. Fills out the guards nicely while also not having any clearance issues. I might be able to get away with 245s but these tyres should last for a couple more summers. I'm not a big fan of stretched tyres and the 235s ended up slightly more stretched than anticipated, but it really isn't bad. One of my friends is slightly lower with Konis and Swift springs on his Spec B also with no issues:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/08/T3af8tQ-1.jpg

[98legwag]

OK. Thanks for the info.

[98legwag]

Hey man, I was going back over your thread and have a question. The Morimoto HID bulbs that did not fit with the caps, are they from the Morimoto Elite HID kit?

[fwa2500]

Yes, they are the ones from the Elite kit. If they were 1cm shorter it would have been perfect but it was not to be. Their new style bulbs have a plug directly on the base of the bulb, which is nice so you wouldn't have to pull the whole pigtail out of the cap when changing bulbs, but it makes it too long. Oh well, the standard HID bulbs fit fine and work great with the Morimoto ballasts and harness.

[98legwag]

OK, thanks. I am satisfied with my halogen bulbs (Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited) for now. But in the future who knows.

[soba noodle]

Correct me if I am wrong, no HID for USDM 3.0?

[98legwag]

Correct me if I am wrong, no HID for USDM 3.0?

That is correct. As far as I know most USDM Legacys never got HIDs. Finally the 2015s have HID headlights on the 3.6R.

[fwa2500]

Yep, it is one of the many ways that we got screwed by SoA. We also never got digital climate control until halfway through the third gen. Legacy cycle and even then it was an optional extra as far as I can work out. There was digital climate control in the first gens in JDM-land...I think the only good stuff we have gotten here that is special in any way are the closed deck EJ22 turbo engines in the first gen SS and the Baja family, everything else seems to be watered down and worse versions of what the rest of the world got.

[Reuben]

Yup, even my shitbox BF3 1.8 ti daily has digital climate control. Why did SOA hate you guys?

[98legwag]

At least all our BRZ/FRS/GT86s come with 17 inch wheels. In Japan the lower specs have 16 in alloys or 16 inch steelies.

[fwa2500]

Yup, even my shitbox BF3 1.8 ti daily has digital climate control. Why did SOA hate you guys?

They still do...and because they are based in New Jersey, nothing good ever came out of there.


At least all our BRZ/FRS/GT86s come with 17 inch wheels. In Japan the lower specs have 16 in alloys or 16 inch steelies.

Most of the people I know with FRS/BRZs either replaced the wheels or painted/powder coated them a solid colour, no-one likes the two-tone look, but they were kinda pitched as a tuner car anyway with the expectation they would be customized.


On Saturday I plastidipped the "wing" on the grill black as a temporary solution, I'd love to go with a mesh or honeycomb grill at some point.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/09/gsCC5JB-1.jpg

[98legwag]

Yeah, my buddy with a Spec B has a DIY mesh grille. Its looks awesome.

[fwa2500]

Now with more noise. I like it.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/09/JmkqK5r-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/09/Slpdoch-1.jpg

I think I am going to get longer Kartboy hangers again, I would like a little more bumper clearance.

[soba noodle]

Nice, what do they sound like? Really like the burned tips!

[98legwag]

I have the Kartboy hangers on mine. I like them. I am assuming you went with Turbo XS? Since mine are the prototypes they don't have the burnt tips.

Edit- just saw the boxes.

[soba noodle]

I have the Kartboy hangers on mine. I like them. I am assuming you went with Turbo XS? Since mine are the prototypes they don't have the burnt tips.

Edit- just saw the boxes.

You can do the burned tips yourself, gas torch is the only thing you need ;)

[98legwag]

You can do the burned tips yourself, gas torch is the only thing you need ;)

Eh, I like them the way they are. I just need to polish them.

[fwa2500]

Toothpaste worked great on the Prodrive oval-tip I had on the wagon, and then it smells minty fresh afterwards as a bonus!

[soba noodle]

We have this great stuff called Autosol, metal polishing paste. Made in Germany I believe and should be available in the states too. But yeah for light polishing some toothpaste will do, as well as some domestic cleaning pastes like Jiff.

[98legwag]

I think I have some metal polish in the garage. I need to look.

[fwa2500]

I hate deer. That is all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NYQMm_2tgo

[98legwag]

Holy crap. Well done sir.

[98legwag]

How is the clearance on the inside of you wheels? I keep getting conflicting info on legacygt.com about what will fit without rubbing if I decide to get JDM Pink springs. I don't want rubbing on either side.

[fwa2500]

Ohio autumnalness is in full swing

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/10/22238628376_5350414566_c-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/zT9Mrb)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/10/22251857632_5aa1a2e56a_c-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/zUjA2N)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/10/22275190711_c8003ddbfb_c-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/zWob9g)

As far as suspension clearance goes, there is plenty with my setup, same with the fender. I think I could get away with 245s without spacers or rolling the fenders next time but 255s might need them and a mild roll:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/10/YeL2lRk-1.jpg

[98legwag]

Sweet. Thank you sir.

[fwa2500]

Over the past couple weeks I replaced the stock fogs with Morimoto XB LED units, I like them a lot, they actually do something now.

Before:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/12/B0JNxf7-1.jpg

After:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/12/pmVgLTi-1.jpg


I also got winter tyres mounted on the 17"s from the wagon, went with General Altimax Arctics again though based on how the winter is going so far might be a bit overkill…

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/12/0NOBtTc-1.jpg

[98legwag]

The stock fog lights are pretty lame. I may look into those fogs more in depth. I glanced at them before.

[Navi271]

Hahaha! We finally got snow here, but yes, there hasn't been a big need for snow tires this year. What size tire do you have on there?

[98legwag]

Did you get the universal Morimoto LED fogs or the kit made for Subarus?

[fwa2500]

Running 215/50R17s, same outside diameter as my summer setup. The fogs are the same as the GR WRX/STi for our 08-09 Legacy, the 05-07 are different though

[98legwag]

OK. When I looked at the Subaru kit it says it has an H11. I just realized that is a different kit from the GR WRX/STi kit. Thanks for the info. Something else for me to consider.

[soba noodle]

Are those LEDs straight bolt-on/plug'n'play or require a bit of fiddling to fit?
I've been looking for a decent LED replacement for a while now. Some more details will be greatly appreciated. Cheers

[fwa2500]

They are a direct replacement, don't need to do anything other than plug it in. Really the only issues I had was due to ground clearance, I'd recommend just taking off the bumper cover, it is cake otherwise.

https://www.theretrofitsource.com/complete-headlight-fog-light-housings/morimoto-xb-led-fog-lights-wrx-sti-gr.html#.VorKsTYopTc

[98legwag]

So they bolt right into the factory mounting? This is getting more tempting.

[fwa2500]

Yep! The mounting bracket is identical to the factory ones, unbolt and unplug those units, pop in the Morimoto ones, bolt and plug them in and be amazed at how much better they are than the stockers.

[98legwag]

Stop making me want to spend my money.....

[98legwag]

By chance, do you how much the stock wheels weigh?

[fwa2500]

I don't know exactly what they are but based on what the other 18" stock wheels weigh I would guess something in the 22-25lb range

[fwa2500]

Car's first little play in the snow:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/01/bEmDllO-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/01/kDUhVrh-1.jpg

[98legwag]

Those fog lights look super bright in that first picture.

[Merc6]

Looks happy in the snow. Way happier than mine is right now w/o an engine.

[fwa2500]

I made a small JapanParts purchase…got a set of K2 Gear mirror indicators. I went for them because I am not a fan of all the wasted space on the stock ones.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/03/ZZSJxz5-1.jpg

Compared to the stock lights:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/03/yuQLR9J-1.jpg


Illuminated:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/03/7aScD1S-1.jpg

[Muse]

Very nice looking.

[98legwag]

Thats sweet. How do you go about changing them out?

[fwa2500]

It is prety easy, remove the mirror panel and then the outer cap (has 5 tabs that clip it into place), then it is just two screws holding the light in place. Took all of 5 minutes per side, I think I spent longer trying to find my screwdrivers, lol.

[foohfooh]

Very cool.

[fwa2500]

Did a wash, clay, polish and wax to get rid of the residual winter nastiness...

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/03/1UzkhHt-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/03/RSMxw2p-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/03/pOSuEmg-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/03/P9hl0dt-1.jpg

[foohfooh]

Amazing. Good spot for photos. What products do you use?

[fwa2500]

Most of it is just stuff that I had around, the only new stuff really was going to Harbor Freight and getting a DA buffer (this one (http://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-57-amp-heavy-duty-dual-action-variable-speed-polisher-69924.html)) and various pads. Here are all the other products I used:

Wash soap: Turtle Wax Ice
Clay: Mothers California Gold
Polish/compound: Meguiar's 205
Wax: Sonax Liquid Wax Hybrid NPT
Wheel cleaner: Sonax Wheel Cleaner Plus
Tyre treatment: 3M Auto Essentials

Definitely a learning experience using a DA machine, I had never used one before. The time and effort was definitely worth it, I was able to remove the majority of the light swirls that were in the paint. There are still a ton of deeper marks, but it is a start!

[peugoby]

Looks so good! Great pictures, too. I would like to get my hands on a DA buffer myself.

[fwa2500]

<$70 at Harbor Freight! So worth it. Cheers!

[98legwag]

Any recent updates?

[fwa2500]

Nothing to update but another 7.5 hour detail (unless you want to count a new dashcam and relocation of Grumpy Cat). Naturally, being a black car it has already attracted all of the dust. -_-

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/06/27358533134_a12165349d_c-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HFzCK9)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/06/27358537464_7590cc4a49_c-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HFzE2N)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/06/27869610192_75f65d411c_c-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/JsK39y)

Bonus accidental selfie
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/06/27869608892_0ba28e6390_c-1.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/JsK2L9)

The paint definitely isn't perfect, but at least you can see the metallic flake in it now.

[soba noodle]

What's the offset of your rims? Just trying to find out if 18x7.5 et35 will cause any rubbing issues.

[98legwag]

It looks so nice. I believe his wheels are 18x8 et48.

[Tylerhartman]

Lookin' good :thumbright:

[fwa2500]

What's the offset of your rims? Just trying to find out if 18x7.5 et35 will cause any rubbing issues.


It looks so nice. I believe his wheels are 18x8 et48.

Yep, you are correct!

Thanks guys!

[fwa2500]

Apologies for the massive photos, I'm not able resize on my phone.

Added a reverse camera, it was a surprisingly simple install, definitely an awesome upgrade for well under $20

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/07/rMPcckV-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2016/07/P69dJbC-1.jpg

[Hinyo]

Under 20?

Is this an OEM option? bluetooth? how is it powered?

[fwa2500]

Power is piggybacked of the reverse lights, it was cake to wire it was the factory nav unit and works like OEM. There is a good write-up over on lgt, I'll post more once I get home

[98legwag]

And I don't have factory nav.....

[soba noodle]

Mine was about that much too or even cheaper off ebay. Works well after more than a year of use. Wiring is pretty easy, just tap into reverse gear signal wire in passengers footwell and into rear lights harness for power/ground. Mine is connected to a 2din aftermarket stereo though. Plug and play pretty much.

[peugoby]

That is likely the best $20 mod on the planet. The resolution looks pretty good too!

[fwa2500]

Car is for sale as I am moving and can't bring it with me. Check the classifieds for a listing soon.

[98legwag]

Awww. Where are you moving to?

[Reuben]

A place where JDM cars are plentiful. Sad to see her go, but I dear say there could be some exciting drives in your future.

[98legwag]

Like a 3.0R Spec B with 6MT?

[fwa2500]

Only time will tell ;)

For sale thread: https://sl-i.net/FORUM/showthread.php?19819-2008-Legacy-3-0R-Limited&p=283665

[fwa2500]

Holy necro-bump batman! No updates on this car from the buyer unfortunately; I do still sorely miss it. What I have instead is a gift from the past, for the longest time I thought I didn't save any videos after I did the exhaust but I have good news. While visiting the states back at the end of January I grabbed some of my old SD cards and hard drives to sort though and in that mess of data I found one. Sorry it is not a drive-by or anything but hey, it is still better than nothing!


https://youtu.be/qM2JlX_cd5g?t=50

[Reuben]

Whats this, an email from SL-i… With a post update from FWA2500… What the dickens?!

[ryu_haneda]

Whats this, an email from SL-i… With a post update from FWA2500… What the dickens?!

Reuben. Now that's a username I've not seen in a long time. Long time. :)

[Reuben]

We need a forum revival. Stuff facebook.

[rkrenicki]

We need a forum revival. Stuff facebook.

I fully agree, but the traffic just isn't there.

[ryu_haneda]

I fully agree, but the traffic just isn't there.

I've been more consistent in the past week than I have been in the past couple of years :grin:

Man... it's been years since this place was popping off. But Lord willing it can do so again :)

[Reuben]

Well i’m on here all the time. I get messages and PM’s multiple times a week from my TT info threads. So this place certainly is living it’s second life as an archive for information, something facebook is incapable of doing.