Sybir's '97-99 OB v.hooptydeux (11/13/14)

[sybir]

I'll spare you the dozens of build pages (and sets of wheels), here's how she currently sits, and a relatively accurate mod list.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/08/hoopty_ce28_1-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/08/59936_440902974384_653134384_5035555_178-1.jpg

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Mod list:

Interior/Exterior
Momo Daytona Carbon, 350mm, on Dai Kei hub, with functional cruise
Aluminum gauge surround
JDM WRX E-brake, leather w/ red stitching
JDM BG STi pedal kit w/ dead pedal, gold/red.
Tint, rears 5%, driver and passenger 50%.
Hella 500 amber fogs, yellow Stongard, etc
JDM amber sidemarkers
JDM BG rear lights
Hippo Sleek replica mesh grill
Morette headlights (Hella projector low beams, Hella driving pattern highs)
Yakima Doublecross towers
Tein BG hood struts
Zerosports replica radiator shroud


Audio/Electronics
Pioneer Premier DEH-P7200BT
(F) 6.5 inch 3-way coaxials (need to install my Premier components)
(R) 6.5 inch 3-way coaxials
Alpine MRV100m mono sub amp, mounted under rear load floor
Kicker Solobaric 10" in fiberglass box
Hella Supertones
Valentine 1 (hardwired)

Suspension/Brakes:
Tein Flex coilovers, 04 STi fitment
Whiteline Race ALK
Whiteline 22mm front sway bar
Whiteline rear swaybar links (18mm bar)
Whiteline rear strut tower bar w/ QR's
4pot/2pot (GD takeoffs) and rear hub swap
Wheels, wheels, wheels.

Power (ha!):
Port/polished JDM heads
Borla SS headers
2.5 inch header-back w/ hi-flo cat, into a Magnaflow muffler.

Lots of other little things that aren't important.
If you've got any questions, ask :D
She's beat, but she's got 280k+ on her, so I figure I'm ok with that ;)

[pdawg]

nice :twisted:

[Huffer]

Hawt. I'd take her, even with the mileage. Nothing a refreshed engine can't work out.

[blackgtbeauty]

wow. that's one of the nicest outbacks i've seen.

[badbasser98]

The first pic with the black wheels = teh sex....

[phi11]

The first pic with the black wheels = teh sex....


yaZ^^^^^what he said.

[EXP1787]

I have a LOT of pictures of your car saved on my home PC. I love the look.

[Wiscon_Mark]

Hehehehehe, I just love staring at that car :smile:

[Huffer]

Momo Daytona Carbon, 350mm, on Dai Kei hub, with functional cruise

Yakima Doublecross towers

Tein Flex coilovers, 04 STi fitment


Could you do a little more indepth about those mods^^^?

[sybir]

Sure thing.

The Momo is a standard 6-bolt hub. I originally had one of the common Momo hubs, designed for non-airbag Scoobies, that bolts up, but requires you to remove the clockspring (the unit behind the steering wheel that rotates and keeps all the connections with the airbags, horn, and cruise). I had to fab a horn wiper out of a Bic pen clip, but I had no signal cancels, and no cruise. I happened on the Dakei hub on Ebay, and picked it up for a song ($10, they retail for near $200) and bolted it on. It's got a cutout to allow the clockspring to remain in place, and interfaces with the signal cancels on the clockspring. It also has a jumper harness for the horn. You still have to ground out the other lead for the horn on any aftermarket wheel, but I just ground it to the hub, no issues. Ran like that for about 3 months, then thought "there's space in the center of the hub, I wonder if I can make cruise work?" I had previously messed with emulating cruise with external buttons but gave up Turned out, all I had to do was rearrange the horn jumper connector, the unused airbag connector, and the cruise unit for the stock wheel in the center of the hub, and I could make it point out of the hub straight down. I did kind of a hack job on the trim ring for the Daikei to get clearance, but it works, and it was kind of messed up anyways. All factory parts except the hub. It's definitely something I'll carry over to the next car. I asked at Autobacs when I was in Osaka and I was told Daikei had stopped manufacturing and I should hold onto it as it was probably one of the only ones in the states.

This thing I love aobut this wheel is it's almost the exact same design as the JDM cars, but the hub area is smaller (becuase it bolts to an aftermarket hub) and has the trick little carbon horn button. I can also run it without the pad with a normal Momo horn button for a more racy look.

Old interior pic, without the cruise (it tucks behind the bottom spoke, you can only feel it, not see it), the STi pedals, the JDM visors, painted center console (flat black, don't worry), etc.
http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF1390.JPG




Time to head home from work (yay for 70 mile commutes) so I'll address the rest when I get home. The DoubleCross towers are a standard Yakima part, and are actually the exact same as the OEM Subaru round crossbar setup.......only the Subaru set is cheaper :p

[sybir]

And, my favorite part, the Flex's.

There's always conflicting info about what parts are compatible between Imprezas and Legacies. Subarus are like Legos - remember that statement. If individual parts don't fit, the whole unit usually will. Yes, top hats and spring diameters have changed. Yes, the orientation of the tophats in front is different between the BD/BG/BF/BC/BF/BE/BH/BP/BL?GC/GM/GF and the '02-up Imprezas, but that's relatively easy. You've got two options. Get a suspension setup designed for one of the former cars, get a set of tophats for your specific supesnsion setup that fit one of the former cars (and has the right spring diameter, if you're using a standard spring), or get an '02+ setup, and swap the front hats side to side. Now, the only time this matters is if you have camber plates.

Here's why: the only difference is about 30 degrees in orientation. The bolt spacing is the same, it's jsut rotated. Try to mount up a WRX setup, and camber plates point towards the center of the radiator. Swap the left and right hats, and all of a sudden they're only slaned ~10 degrees, meaning you just get a hair less caster if you're running the plates all the way negative, which most will never do on a street car.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/08/DSCF2066JPG-1.jpg

So, why a WRX setup instead of a GC, or unobtainium JDM Legacy setup?
Easy. Selection, price, and common weight. I've got a set of Flex's designed for an STi. An STi weighs about 3300 pounds. A WRX wagon weighs about 3100. My wagon weighs around 3150-3200. You can see where I'm going with this. It's even better on a sedan, but, in my experience, with a fully loaded car (and I'm talking about ~1300 pounds not including my fat ass), the car barely sags, is still controlled, and doesn't get saggy wagon butt. You can barely tell it's loaded. Yet, becuase the spring rates and damping are designed for a car of the same weight, the handling is so improved it's scary. Ask any of the guys in my local club with WRX's who try to either pull away from me in twisties, or try to keep up.......there isn't a car Subaru makes that has better wight balance than a Legacy wagon, and you better beleive it makes a difference. Additionally, WRX coilover setups are all over the used market; I got Flex's from a friend at the market rate of $1000 with about 3k on them because he got an '05 and needed a new set. Compare that with AGX's for 500 (charitable), decent springs (250) and Group N tops to prevent pogo, and to me it's a no-brainer if you're concerned with making the car handle instead of just looking good. You adjust ride height without eating into available travel, and you get a much better damping setup than an adjustable strut that has to work within the confines of stock springs and god knows how many different aftermarket setups.

Issues with fitment, that you'll run into with any WRX coilover: The Legacy front suspension is a bit taller, so to get the same ride height you have to raise the coilover quite a bit; this means that almost any WRX coilover even at it's highest setting may not be able to get to stock height. If you're lowering your car anyways, this shouldn't be an issue. Corollary to this is that there's less hood clearance above the strut tops, because the shock towers are higher. Shouldn't cause an issue for any mechanically-adjusted coilover, but the electronic setups may be too tall once the motor is bolted onto the top (Tein Flex w/EDFC, Cusco Zero-2E, etc.) I test-fit and fund that it was too close for comfort, but it takes me 30 seconds to adjsut all 4 corners in a wagon anyways, so I don't really care. Electronic adjustment jsut aids setup on sedans, you're not going to change it once you get it dialed (at least in my experience)

I've also run Ground Control setups on both WRX struts and GC V5 struts, and can offer some advice if anyone's thinking about going that way on spring rates and free lengths (a friend of mine, who I used to work with at a shop, is the guy that did all of GC's kits back in the day, so I've got a pretty good grasp of what rates and lengths to use for specific setups. That said, my recommendation for someone looking to run a GC setup is to save your money and get an integrated coilover system: Tein Super streets are cheap even new and will be worlds better and quieter.


That's my 2 cents; take it, leave it, put it in your pipe and smoke it, and feel free to ask away if there's anything else you're curious about. I've been doing performance work with Subarus for about 4 years in additiona to monkeying with my own beast, so I can probably help ;)

[sybir]

Some wiseacre in my intro thread asked me to document all the wheels on the car :p

Here goes, 56k, die.


Stockers (sold)
http://neurosybir.net/sybir/DCP_0678.JPG

99 RS wheels (first set, later PC'd black and put on our racecar)
http://neurosybir.net/sybir/DCP_1575.JPG

Gram Lights (traded for the P1's)
http://neurosybir.net/sybir/DCP_1582.JPG

WRX 16's (winter wheels, sold)
http://neurosybir.net/sybir/PB030168.JPG

Second set of 99's (winter wheels, lived a short life on our shop drift car)
http://neurosybir.net/sybir/DSCF0758.JPG

Rota Actions (relegated to track wheels, whenever I start tracking)
http://neurosybir.net/sybir/DSCF1251.JPG

01 RS wheels, rattlecanned black (very temporary, now on one of the shop Leg Turbos.)
http://neurosybir.net/sybir/DSCF0956.JPG

Prodrive P1's
http://neurosybir.net/sybir/DSCF1293.JPG

SDR's, flat black. these stay with the car when I sell it.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/08/DSCF2257JPG-1.jpg

Superleggeras, 18x8, keepin' em for the next car.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/08/DSCF2966JPG-1.jpg

Boosts, 17x8. Keepin' em for the next car. Favorite wheels yet.

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF3021.JPG

Not pictured:
Silver '01 RS wheels, never made it onto my car before being put on a shop car.
Gunmetallic SDR's, new winter wheels that will clear Stoptechs (these are the ones that got powdercoated below)
2 sets of White Rota Attacks, my total ricer wheels. Never got good pics :(
Gunmetallic Torques, sold to a buddy. (warranty replacements for the white Attacks)


Okay, so maybe I do have a sickness :)

[Huffer]

And, my favorite part, the Flex's.

There's always conflicting info about what parts are compatible between Imprezas and Legacies. Subarus are like Legos - remember that statement. If individual parts don't fit, the whole unit usually will. Yes, top hats and spring diameters have changed. Yes, the orientation of the tophats in front is different between the BD/BG/BF/BC/BF/BE/BH/BP/BL?GC/GM/GF and the '02-up Imprezas, but that's relatively easy. You've got two options. Get a suspension setup designed for one of the former cars, get a set of tophats for your specific supesnsion setup that fit one of the former cars (and has the right spring diameter, if you're using a standard spring), or get an '02+ setup, and swap the front hats side to side. Now, the only time this matters is if you have camber plates.


That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for. :twisted:

Nice to hear it from a guy who's done it.

[blackgtbeauty]

There's always conflicting info about what parts are compatible between Imprezas and Legacies. Subarus are like Legos - remember that statement.


and the fact that soooo many parts are swappable among subie's, i like to refer to them as "life size legos".

:grin: hahaha... that's funny...

[Wiscon_Mark]

Some wiseacre in my intro thread asked me to document all the wheels on the car :p

:grin:

Well done!

[driftsub]

Subarus are like Legos - remember that statement.

Man...
whoever originally said that musta been smart ;)

funny I find this site today and see this.
I still love that car, and you sir, have a wheel addiction


1 vote for wheels annonymous for U!

-you know who... lol

[sybir]

Subarus are like Legos - remember that statement.

Man...
whoever originally said that musta been smart ;)

funny I find this site today and see this.
I still love that car, and you sir, have a wheel addiction


1 vote for wheels annonymous for U!

-you know who... lol

Dunno, guy's alway's seemed kinda.....off :p

:grin: :grin: :grin:

[bgwagon]

damn, finally a wagon that makes me want to do more to my car!!! I NEED THAT GRILLE!!! and perhaps some new headlights....hmmmmmmmm damn you man!!! I've got the full hippo sleek kit except the grille

[driftsub]

man I should post pics of the drift leg, with its new and improved fender thanks to loaning it to he sister in law ( yes dani, she popped the motor in her wrx, so I loaned out the car , stupid me )


ur cars looking good though man! whats this about selling?

[sybir]

man I should post pics of the drift leg, with its new and improved fender thanks to loaning it to he sister in law ( yes dani, she popped the motor in her wrx, so I loaned out the car , stupid me )


ur cars looking good though man! whats this about selling?

Hey, I have dibs on the black car :p


Buddy in Montana who manages a Scooby delaership wants to buy it, do an '05 STi swap in it and turn it into a Perrin project (he's friends with Jeff). Going to grab something for the next year or so from him, then when I'm back up in Sac he's going to hook it up on a new LGT. I'll finally (well, again, technically) have a turbo wagon :p

Tell dani the black car's mine this time :p

[JPaul99GT]

Okay, so maybe I do have a sickness :)

my girlfriend likes shoes too........ :wink:

but reguardless your car is TEH SEX when it comes to outbacks, good work

[Mr. Xevious]

man I should post pics of the drift leg, with its new and improved fender thanks to loaning it to he sister in law ( yes dani, she popped the motor in her wrx, so I loaned out the car , stupid me )


ur cars looking good though man! whats this about selling?

wow.. talk about random

btw.. your website is back up again.. give me a call when you have a chance, I think we are going to be moving stuff soon since this hosting sucks ass.

[pitten]

I have to admit I did a little jump of joy as well when I saw sybir(you) joining this board, don't have to say that I'm all over his(your) outback as well, just one of if not the nicest, subtle, non-rice, "my kind of" suby..my hard drive is stuffed with pics of the lgnwgn too ;)
and I couldn't resist some photoshopping and dreaming of my new car, hope i can finally start working for some serious money and dumping it into my ride ;)
hopefully sybir(you) is(are) okay with using me his(your) intelectual property and pics..

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/08/DSCF296220-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/08/DSCF3001_superturismogold-1.jpg

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https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/08/DSCF3001_superturismowhite-1.jpg

so long,
regards from the motherland,
Pitten

[subieyacht]

that was some good info o the coils. so im assuming the rears just bolt right up then?

[subieyacht]

oh yeah and i rember seeing your car on nasioc way back in the day, and almost crapping my pants. this was when i had an outback, so i imdeatly feel in love. hahaha. the picture im thinking about was one of the ones under the bridge with the actions.

[sybir]

that was some good info o the coils. so im assuming the rears just bolt right up then?

Yep. Fronts technically bolt up, I just did some rearranging to make things work better.

Pitten, if I was concerned about what people did with/to my pictures, I wouldn't be such a picure whore. Feel free, there's some comical images that have come out of photoshops with my car in the past. Your pics are broken, though, but I'd like to see them ;)

Plus, it means a lot when someone uses your car as a template; I built the car for myself, but it's always been cool to hear that other people like it, too, since it is so different from the sea of WRX's and stuff out there now.

On the (theoretically) plus side, I'm going to be holding onto this car for the foreseeable future, as the guy who wanted to buy it came into some financial difficulties, and I didn't want to sell it anyways. I'll keep driving it until the wheels fall off, then probably bolt them on again and keep going. ;)

Picking up some new seats (again) this weekend, and ordered some new plates since the whole LGNWAGN thing doesn't really work when the car's not turbo ;)

I'll clean up the car and get some pics with the new seats; need to get some amber fogs again, too; PWT, you still have yours around with the rockblocker?

[Wiscon_Mark]

What are you doing with the old seats, and what seats are they?

[sybir]

Old seats are stockers, in leather. The driver's side has a 1/2" tear starting downt he center of the bottom cushion, so I figured it was time for new seats before the car started looking more ghetto.

As with most things, I've gone through a nubmer of setups on the car; put in '02 bugeye WRX seats, which were a vast improvement but didn't match, took those out, ran stocks, bought some red Recaro SRD's but never got around to putting them in the car, then got into selling mode and flipped a lot of my extra stuff. Stealing the '05 WRX seats (black, and super-comfortable for big guys) from the buddy I sold the recaros to, so with some door-panel reskins and maybe the rear seat down the road, I should be good to go. I hate leather anyways.

[Wiscon_Mark]

damn, I hate leather too. I was hoping you still had those bugeye seats ;)

[pitten]

hmm..dunno why it doesn't work..try "show image" in firefox or go to
http://pittensvirld.blogspot.com/
just another page with pics of your car ;)
looking forward for new pics..

pitten

[blueb3]

I hear ya on the seats. I am rocking a set of 2002 outback sport seats. (grey tweed) and they are the business!

[blackgtbeauty]

yeah i got rid of my leather asap. they sucked.

[sybir]

hmm..dunno why it doesn't work..try "show image" in firefox or go to
http://pittensvirld.blogspot.com/
just another page with pics of your car ;)
looking forward for new pics..

pitten

That one with Phaeton wheels looks surprisingly better than I thought it would :D

[subieyacht]

^iknow, it kind of suits it

[Plays_with_Toys]

I love the OZ super tourers. I thought you actually had them on there when I saw the picture, then I saw the 4 bolt pattern. My dream wheel is an 18 spoke wheel in white. Maybe a 17?

[sybir]

Anyone who knows me knows this thread should have a 56k warining......on that note, some pics I snapped tonight at the pretty end of my neighborhood. I hate my commute, but I can't complain about the view ;)

Only new mods are the '05 WRX seats, which sit super-high; they're even higher than bugeye seats in the BG's, and if I didn't have the raised OB roof, I couldn't even use them. As it is, I look like Lurch driving the car, but my stockers were giving up the ghost after 220k, and these hold me in a lot better.

Onto new pics!

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/09/DSCF3116JPG-1.jpg

I can never get decent interior shots for some reason, so that'll have to do.
The outside ones came out a lot better ;)

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF3118.JPG

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF3129.JPG

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF3141.JPG

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http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF3187.JPG

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF3204.JPG

[Wiscon_Mark]

I really think you should colormatch the black part of your front bumper to match the slate metallic color of the bumper/sides. It looks hot on '99 limiteds, IMO.

ie:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/09/SubOB9830thAnnivLtdJPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/09/OutbackLimited-1.jpg

[sybir]

I'm not sure. I really like black trim, and there's enough unpainted or satin black on the car that I think it would break up the flows the car has if the whole front was painted. As it is, the lower is essentiually flat black, thegrill and lights are flat black, the side bumpers and rear bumper lip are black, the rails are black, etc. Painting the front end makes it look (to my eye) that the whole fog surround is an add-on piece, where the way the bumpers are stock looks more....organic. The unfinished surfaces gives the car a "harder" look.

Every tuned car ends up getting all colormatched un the US; I've always loved the German tuning style that leaves black rub strips and trim, as it makes the car look more like it was designed that way; the VW guys call it OEM+, where you're using factory parts to accomplish a differnet look, but one that could have conceivably come fromt he factory that way. Other issue is that I tear the everloving shit out of my lower bumper on a regular basis, and paint wouldn't last a week with a car as low as it is. That said, I always appreciate feedback :)

The main reason I'd never paint it is becuase I decided long ago I wanted it to visually remain an old Outback, as I love the impact it has on people that it's a completely stock body (grill and lights are the only mods) set off with simple and tasteful mods; no extra colormatching, blending, smoothing, restructuring, etc. I do love the front fender treatment on bgwagon's car, though, and I'd consider it if I ever had to redo the front end.

I want to find a decent-condition factory bumper off a 96-98 OB, so that I have the original laminate finish that holds up through a lot more than paint; this bumper is just getting hashed and the lower is demolished. If anyone knows of one, or sees a decent shape-one in a yard that won't have to be repainted to match, let me know, I've got money ;)

[sybir]

Here's what I mean. At our old shop, when another 97 limited was in for service, I snapped some pics. Now, ignoring all the bumper stickers and stuff, this is exactly what my car looked like stock. The only external difference is that I removed pinstripes, lowered the car, changed the lights, and put on different wheels.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/09/P1010006JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/09/P1010007JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/09/P1010009JPG-1.jpg


It looks like a different car. People don't even identify my car as an Outback, and I always find that kind of intriguing, yet cool.

[Huffer]

Yeah, still loving it. :D

Only thing it's missing is Spec B 6 speed, and maybe a swapped motor. But hey, can't have everything.

I just love the styling too much!

[sybir]

Couple of new pics, even though it's drty as hell. 750 miles a week builds up a lot of bugs :(

For PWT, who hooked me up with some super-yellow 500's :D

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF3274.JPG
http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF3271.JPG

And a really crappy pic of my current seating. I sold the '05 WRX seats as they jsut sat way too high. Current setup is a Recaro Speed/SRD for me, and an old bugeye WRX seat I had lying around.

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF3269.JPG

I'll get some better pics cleaned up and in better light. If anyone knows of a black/white Speed/SRD FS, let me know, I can't keep rolling ricer styles :D

[JMoney]

Absolutely love the wagon. I'd put the SDR's back on and keep the stock fogs, but hey, maybe I'll get the chance to do on OBW one day.

Hawt. :smt060

[Plays_with_Toys]

I feel honored something of mine is on such a sweet car! They look really light in those photos for some reason, because I know they are a deep deep yellow when the lights are off because of the rock blocker.

[sybir]

haha, thanks :)

I actually pulled a bonehead move and left the lights on from the night before. They are a nice deep yellow and look perfect on the car. Will look good when I put the SDR's back on for winter, too :)

[shazapple]

I agree that theres enough unpainted stuff that if you painted the bumper it would look out of place (specifically the morettes)

Where did you get that red hazard button. Me likey!

[sybir]

Haha, when I pulled out all the dash trim to paint it flat black, I covered the hazard button with red vinyl, and then took an xacto and cut out around the center depression.

I was actually just testing to see if I liked the S201 look, but the vinyl came out decent and won't chip, so I just left it.

[speederfly]

I REALLY like your car! :tongue3: Simple yet effective mods=one freaking sweet-looking muh-cheen! WAGONS RULE!!!

[Reason]

Not sure if I missed it somewhere, but why are you selling her? Too many miles?

[sybir]

Long story, but basically, a guy made me an offer that I couldn't refuse on a trade for another car and an uber-hookup on a new one (was a dealer) but he flaked and I'm keeping the damn thing :D

Just rolled 227k.

[sybir]

Oh, remounted the SRD nice and low with some new brackets, much better.

Sold the SDR's and I'm picking up some black BBS's in about 2 weeks for winter :D

[Wiscon_Mark]

damn you and your california climate. No salt = no rust :cry:

[sybir]

Got hooked up by a local club guy on a drop-in HID setup for my Morettes, so my low-beams now have some nice 6k HID action. I actually had the car clean for once, and the light was killer this morning, so I snapped some pictures around the corner from the house since I'll be swapping to the new wheels for winter soon, and I wanted to get some nice shots with the gold.

Moar pics! (56k, run while you still can)

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF3278.JPG
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/09/DSCF3280JPG-1.jpg
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http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF3293.JPG
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/09/DSCF3294JPG-1.jpg
http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF3301.JPG
http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF3302.JPG
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/09/DSCF3304JPG-1.jpg
http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF3306.JPG
http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/DSCF3313.JPG
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/09/DSCF3317JPG-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/09/DSCF3326JPG-1.jpg

I think I'm finally happy with the exterior, though the GB on CF hoods might make me do something stupid, since the paint on the hood is demolished and half-gone anyways.

[Plays_with_Toys]

Super sexy! Those HID's look intense. What are the inner lights on the morettes then? Fogs or highbeams?

[Huffer]

I do not like being in envy this much!! :lol:

[sybir]

The inner lights are driving pattern/high beam.

[blackgtbeauty]

I would like to order the "HID's at night pics" entre with a side of "give me your car now" please.

[outbackmike]

Some wiseacre in my intro thread asked me to document all the wheels on the car :p

Here goes, 56k, die.


Superleggeras, 18x8, keepin' em for the next car.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/08/DSCF2966JPG-1.jpg


Okay, so maybe I do have a sickness :)




Thank You So Much!
now i know what rims i need to put on my outback,Superleggeras!!!



*edit
sorry :oops:

[Wiscon_Mark]

Outback Mike- Please remove the pictures from your quote, having Sybir whore all of those pictures is bad enough for most broadband connections, much less having them twice! :lol:

[mr_choung]

holly crap.....u got as much rims as i have :grin: anyways...lovin' the wagon.... :twisted:

[Perdue]

Sybir, what shift knob is that? I think I'm going to paint my stuff flat black again...the silver is getting old.

[sybir]

It's an old AC Autotechnic setup; no buttons, the top compresses down on a spring.

Not sure if they're still available, I special ordered it from a local shop many, many moons ago. I'm planning (heh) on using a pipe cutter to cut downt he shift lever so I can drop it as low as it will go. I'm thinking a pipe cutter will let me get rid of the excess metal tube, and then I can trim the actual plunger with a dremel to fit. We'll see how motivated I get, shift lever has been on the car for 5 years :D

At this point, it's not like it's ever going back to stock anyways, as I think it'd be well-nigh impossible ;)

I painted the window controls a semi-gloss black, but I need to get some more bumper paint (that's what I used on the center console) as it's super-flat, and has enough flex agent in it that it has a soft touch almost like the S203 dash pieces (or a VW, if you're feeling vulgar :P)

I'm debating how much of the rest of the stuff to paint at the same time. Becuase I'm bored, I'm may try some crinkle red on the rad splitter and intake and see how it comes out. I'm not doing expensive mods on the car right now, i figure I've spent enough and it's time to finally fix some of the little random things and try some of the DIY stuff I never got around to before.

We'll see what happens.

[sybir]

And some shots from Thill last night ;)


https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/12/IMG_2828-1.jpg
http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/IMG_2891.jpg

[Huffer]

outoffocus!

[Aken]

Yeah jeez Aaron, crappy pictars. *shakes head*

:twisted:

[The Korean]

I've decided one of these days you are going to come to Colorado and let me borrow your waaaaagon... :grin:

Hey and how low are you again? What springs? Compared to that stock Outback you look pretty much slammed.

Looking good as always though... :twisted:

[Wiscon_Mark]

He's on Tein Coilovers.

[sybir]

Yeah, my excuse is tha tI didn't take the pics, or I would have used a tripod. I really need to grab a DSLR one of these days. :D

Car's on Tein Flex (thanks for the assist, Mark) and it's dumped......umm, a lot. I never measured it at stock height with the RS 16's, but I'd say I had roughly 5-6 inches of wheelgap, and now with the shorter 235/40's there's about 3/8" of fender clearance on all 4 corners.

I took a picture and can't find it, but I parked up next to a stock OB of the same year on the 18's, and the top of my mirrors passed under his with about half an inch to spare.......car's about 3/4" lower to the ground on these wheeels, so that sounds about right.

Still waiting on my buddy to finish my wheels, my paint finally came in so I aborted the funky color I was going to do temporarily and I'm going with a classic black as I miss the black wheels on the car.

[drano]

It's an old AC Autotechnic setup; no buttons, the top compresses down on a spring.

Not sure if they're still available, I special ordered it from a local shop many, many moons ago. I'm planning (heh) on using a pipe cutter to cut downt he shift lever so I can drop it as low as it will go. I'm thinking a pipe cutter will let me get rid of the excess metal tube, and then I can trim the actual plunger with a dremel to fit. We'll see how motivated I get, shift lever has been on the car for 5 years :D


did you have to modify the knob any, like file the inside, or was it a direct fit....i found someone who has these shift knobs

[sybir]

Was a direct fit with no filing, IIRC, though it's been almost 6 years. Only other thing I did was run a couple lengths of grey heatshrink down the shift lever to the base of the shift knob to disguise the bare metal and make the diameter more even.

[sybir]

So, apparently, I can't win.

I bought a Legacy Turbo, from an old buddy (one of my old cars). Another buddy is fixing some stuff on it because I don't have time, as it won't smog, etc. As is, can't drive it legally.

Last night, HG's went on the hoopty. Temp spikes, black coolant, limp it home, it's done.

Arg. My commute is 160 miles/day.

Couldn't possibly be two more weeks, so I had the second car, or 6 months when I'd have the STi and time to do an EJ20 or 25 swap.

Oh well, time to find an EJ25 longblock with the quickness.
Good thing I can telecommute.

/rant

[blackgtbeauty]

Meh, at least It'll still look great sitting in your driveway :-?

[Huffer]

Why not just take the heads off, drain the block, install new HGs, and run it in?

Much cheaper than a new longblock.

[sybir]

Heads have 240k on them, leaky valve seals, bad lifters, worn valves and valve seats, and the bottom end has ~180k on it and is beginning to get a bit of rod knock :D

Not worth saving, need a lower mile longblock. This is gonna stay my NA beater for a while.

[Wiscon_Mark]

That's one hell of a nice looking beater :smile:

[sybir]

Meh, at least It'll still look great sitting in your driveway :-?

Haha, this thing will stay tucked in the garage. Got a friend's Taco for a couple weeks, until I can track down a new longblock or get the Turbo up and running (god, I can't wait to have a 5MT again)

[strat81]

ever since i first saw your wagon, i have loved it!

looks amazing! almost makes me wish i would have kept mine...

[Plays_with_Toys]

I haven't gotten a friend's taco in months... :lol:


Oh tacoma. Yeah. Sorry to hear about the car! That really sucks. What are your plans for the older turbo leg once you get it running?

[Wiscon_Mark]

I haven't gotten a friend's taco in months... :lol:

I was thinking that too :lol:

[sybir]

To be perfectly honest, I'll probably goof aorund with the red car and then flip it for a profit. I bought it because a friend needed money, it doesn't make sense to start another project car with the STi on the way and the OB getting full project status at that point.....along with picking up a truck, I don't need 4 cars and 3 scoobies :p

Found a local JDM importer that's hooking my up on a 50-60k longblock, swapping headgaskets so they're covered under their warranty, and does bench testing on the motors to make sure they're solid, so while it's not a chunk I wanted to drop, should be up and running with a nice low-mileage longblock in short order and for under $2k with the help of one of my buddie's scooby shops. Merry Christmas to me :p

[sybir]

So, check this **** out.

Blew my headgaskets Thursday night.
About 10 miles from home.
12/14/2006.
Car is at 240k, almost on the dot.
Buddy lent me his Tacoma until I can get it up and running. If it's not back in a few weeks, i'll have a second Subaru wagon at my disposal (the red car)

About 4 years ago, I was in college and headed down to my GF's for Festivus break.
Blew my headgaskets pulling into town.
About 10 miles from my GF's place.
12/14/2002.
120k on the odo.
Parents lent me their Tacoma until I could get it up and running. It wasn't back in a few weeks, so the dealer gave me a Subaru wagon.

*tinfoil hat*

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/12/tinfoilhat-1.jpg


One of my buddies:
[21:25] max_xevious: ok.. you are so bringing a old priest and young priest to work tomorrow.. you got the devil inside.


:D:D:D

[shazapple]

So the next time it will be at 480k!

[Huffer]

Just proves how routine your life is, and how much like a clock Subaru's are. :lol:

[sybir]

So, as of midnight last night, it's running, for the first time in almost 2 months :D
Some little stuff to get cleaned up, then I get it back Monday.

Some blurry teaser shots from a friend's cameraphone (I haven't seen the car myself in 3+ weeks)

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/IMG00153.jpg
http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/IMG00154.jpg
http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/IMG00155.jpg
http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/IMG00156.jpg

Yes, that's wrinkle red valve covers and intake manifold and a black block with ~40k on it every seal replaced, with rock-solid compression, leakdown and oil pressure (better than factory). Yes, I'm a ricer. Yes, I can't wait to get my car back.



And.........



Yes, I sold the BBS's before putting them on the car because a friend fell in love with them, and I picked up some bronze Rota G-Forces in 17x8 since that color looked so awesome before; I'll probably end up with some gunmetal 17x8 Torques shortly too.

I'll post pics once I get it back and cleaned up (there's another surprise :p)

[Wiscon_Mark]

No surprise there...Sybir has another set of rims :lol:

[Plays_with_Toys]

Motor looks immaculate!

[sybir]

Yeah.......and it'll stay that way for a while longer. My buddy thought he was doing a me a favor in changing out my tranny fluid......but in doing so the tranny that was already on its last legs after 240k died completely; car will barely move.

Motor sounds nice though :p

[Huffer]

Time for the STi RA w/ mechanical DCCD swap...

[Wiscon_Mark]

The close ratio gears of the STi gearbox would be excellent on an N/A engine.

[sybir]

I'll take my STi gearbox wrapped in an STi bodyshell with less body damage and less than a quarter-million miles ;)

Something like, oh, this, which I pick up in June/July:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/02/DSC01417-1.jpg


I'll have this car forever, I swear, but I already passed up my swap, it's jsut not worth it it with this much wear and tear. I found a local yard witha low-mile 4.11 auto, so I'm tossing a 4.11 rear end in and rolling with that for better mileage on the freeway anyways, and for $400 with a warranty, I'm not complaining as I just want the hoopty back on the road.

[OutbackGT]

Pshh. Sellout. :grin:

What Subarus do you currently own?

[sybir]

Sellout, hell. The OB isn't going anywhere, and I've owned Subarus for almost 10 years (and the OB was in my family from new).
I currently have the OB, and a 92 Legacy Turbo wagon with a 5spd swap, TD05-16G, coilovers, etc etc etc.

I'm also the don of the Wagon Mafia, so I'll have your ass whacked :p

[OutbackGT]

Sellout, hell. The OB isn't going anywhere, and I've owned Subarus for almost 10 years (and the OB was in my family from new).
I currently have the OB, and a 92 Legacy Turbo wagon with a 5spd swap, TD05-16G, coilovers, etc etc etc.

I'm also the don of the Wagon Mafia, so I'll have your ass whacked :p

I don't believe I've seen your turbo wagon got pics? And whose yellow WRX is that?

[Plays_with_Toys]

Whose flipping the birds in the background?

Remember, if you ever ditch the amber hella's, I have first dibs haha. I'll have enough money this summer to do an outback bumper swap and paint to make room for those.

[sybir]

That dapper, slender gentleman in the back, subtly expressing his inner feelings, is me ;)

I don't have pictures of the Turbo becuase it's still sitting at a friend's house getting the engine bay un-rigged (long story; I sold the car 3 years ago to a buddy's sister in law, it got sold to another guy who did a number on it, and I took it back as a charity case/second car that I'll flip when I pick up the STi from another friend). It also needs some paint and bodywork (the rear bumper was replaced..........with a mauve one, lol). I'm thinking about doing a slate lower on it to tie everything together instead of trying to match faded burgundy, but we'll see. It's got an old set of 99 RS wheels PC'd flat black, so a dark lower color might work.

[sybir]

And the WRX is my buddie's old car; it's been replaced with a white '05 WRX wagon. Not shown is his wife's '01 white RS coupe, or my other friend and old roommate's blue bugeye sedan or replacement, another '05 AW STi ;)


So yeah, at one point, 4 people, 4 Subarus, and a total of 7 Scoobs between us over a 2-year period ;)

It's a sickness. We used to hold weekly meets there as well, so there would be 20 Subarus in front of the house every week :D

[OutbackGT]

Sounds sick.

[Huffer]

Tein Super streets are cheap even new and will be worlds better and quieter.

sybir - given the rougher roads in my area of the country, what do you think of the following for a 98 GT wagon?

Tein Type BASIC: # DSS60-LUSS2 - Retails for $990
For : 04+ SUBARU Impreza, GDA
Spring Rate F/R : 5 / 5 kgf/mm 280 / 280 lbs/in
Ride Height F/R : -57 / -38 mm -2.2 / -1.5 in
SPRING RATE ADJUSTMENT RANGE
Front Rate Max/Min : +56 / -56 kgf/mm +1.0 / -1.0 lbs/in
Rear Rate Max/Min : +56 / -56 kgf/mm +1.0 / -1.0 lbs/in
RIDE HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT RANGE
Front Range Max/Min : -45 to -70.78 mm -1.8 to -2.8 in
Rear Range Max/Min : -16 to -51.65 mm -0.6 to -2 in
EDFC Part # :

Do you think I have enough of a spring rate for the vehicle?
I plan on using the wagon to haul, plus handle enough for a light autox or two.

[mranlet]

5/5 is probably going to be a bit understeer. I'd reccomend at least 6/5 if not 7/5 or 8/6 (Megan Street rates), but ride harshness will begin to play a part. Anything over 5 or 6 kg/mm is going to plenty in the rear to keep from having the rear end sag when fully loaded.

If it means anything, my wagon feels GREAT with 12/10kg springs, but I also track my car very often and don't really care abuot ride stiffness.

[sybir]

^^
Spot on. You don't need to run 12/10's or even the 8/6's that are onmy setup, but i'dlike to see something a bit firmer on the front than a 5k; i'm not so concerned with understeer as blowing through all your travel if you're lowered. When I was running GC's I started out with a 315/250 setup, and while the back was fine, the front really needed to be a bit stiffer.


On another note, i'm starting to get twitchy. The yard tranny i grabbed was horked up and is now getting rebuilt, but i just want my car back. :|
Should be in the next week or two....

[Huffer]

Aight. So what's the next step up in the Teins? I don't want anything that's going to kill my kidneys.

This is Ohio, salt-pothole land.
I'll probably only ever be running 17s max, and most likely 16s on the street.

[sybir]

The next step up is the Super Streets; they aren't as adjustable as Flex's, but they're the same spring rate as the basics.

The biggest problem in this application is your tower heghts are different, especially in front, and that causes problems with a WRX coilover that's not independently height adjustable. WRX's are shorter than Legacies; this means you'll essentially top out a WRX coilover trying to get the Legacy up to a regular ride height. In all the pictures of my car, I could only raise it about 1/2-3/4" from that height before I wouldn't be leaving enough thread in the bottom knuckle mount. I beleive Megan Racing has a "street version" with 8/6 rates, which isn't as bad as it sounds. I've put 50k on my Flex's with 8/6k rates, and, while it's firm, I love the control I have.

It's really important to understand the difference between the two types of adjustment on coilovers, so I'll touch on it here.

The most common type of adjustment is an adjustable spring perch. This is what you see on Ground Control sleeves, Tein basic/super streets, etc. Here's the kicker; it's not a ride height adjustment. It's sold that way, because everyone wants "adjustable ride height". What you're doing when you''re moving that spring perch is adjusting spring preload (raising the perches compresses the spring lifting the car as long as the springs support the weight of the car and dampers don't "top out" or become fully tensioned; you don't want your damper that's not designed as a travel limiter to be used that way. By the same token, lowering the spring perch reduces preload on the spring, or, in most lowering applications, puts slack in the free length of the coilover. This means the car then sits lower in its travel because the spring doesn't get loaded until the car is farther into its travel.
This is how you "lower" a car using the spring perch height. It takes your available travel. It's why I ran 450lb springs on my GC's with shorter struts, to try and keep as much motion confined in my new smaller dynamic travel area as possible; you go from a 4" shock throw to 2 inches or less, which means it's that much easier to sit on your bumpstops. This is why excessively lowered cars understeer; the spring rate in the front effectively goes infinite because you bottom out on the strut bumpstop and you have no travel left.

This limitation in adjustment is what makes them a bad idea for a "roll your own" application like putting WRX stuff in a Legacy. Tein specs its base coilovers with springs that lower a bit and don't need to be adjusted; you're essentially doing small preload adjustments for corner weighting, etc. As soon as you have to raise the perches two inches to keep your wheels out of your fenders, your axles off your unibody, etc, you're topping out the setup. This is the same reason guys put WRX lowering springs on their legacies and it slams them on the ground; it looks cool, but the Legacies are designed differently.
GC kits (which pretty much have to be custom for a Legacy application, btw) allow you to work around this by speccing a taller spring (so I'm not topping out my adjustment on the sleeve trying to raise the car) but you still end up needing to run firmer rates to keep from bottoming, My first setup on WRX struts was a 8" spring in front and a 9" in the rear. My second set (on the shorter V5 struts) was a 6" 450lb setup becuase I had it around, and it worked well; but the shorter spring meant that i had a lot of free play when the side of the car lifted, so they clunked around a bit. Not the end of the world, but annoying.

So, what do we do to solve this?
We make the whole coilover body adjustable; it threads into the knuckle assembly on the bottom, and moves up or down. It only affects the position of the wheel and lower control arm relative to the coiolver body. This means I set my spring preload correctly, then I actually adjust the wheel to where I want it in the fender. This is how most higher-spec coilovers are set up, like Flex's, the Megan Racings (which are rebranded A'pexi units), the upper spec HKS/Cusco/KW/Whiteline Group 4's.

It allows me to make my ride height changes independently of my spring rate/preload changes, and means the car is more easy to dial in, and safer. I keep all my travel, becuase all I'm doing is moving my wheel up, not shortening the spring. Again, witha WRX coilover, you have the raise them quite a bit just to even out the car in the front; this means they're good if you want the car lowered quite a bit, but not if you want to be able to raise them to stock height in winter or whatever.


That's probably full of typos, but the logic's there, and I just woke up. Is your concern more with budget or dail-driver friendliness? Nothing exists in a vacuum, I know, but the Group 4's from whiteline are supposed to be one of the nicest daily driver setups available for WRX's. The KW Variant 3's are supposed to be nice as well; I haven't run on those, but will be checking out a set before I decide what's going on the STi (though I'll likely go with Flex's there too.) For what you're looking for, the Megan racings are probably going to be the best option; they're independently adjsutable and pretty cheap; the nice thing is if you buy something and end up not liking it, it's pretty easy to sell to a WRX owner......

Arg, and now I have to figure out suspension for the other new legacy I'm picking up.......I'm going to be trading the red wagon for a buddy's RWD (gasp) Leg Turbo sedan........ :twisted:
I really need 3 cars.... :shock: :grin:

[sybir]

After all the trials and tribulations of past shop screwups, shoddy work, broken parts from dismantlers, delayed shipments, et cetera, she's back in my hands, and it feels damn good.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/IMG_0350JPG-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/IMG_0360JPG-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/IMG_0365JPG-1.jpg

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/IMG_0394.JPG

Apologies for the crappy pics and dirty car, I'll get it cleaned up later when it's not about to rain.

[shtbxr22]

Did I read that right? you have a 5mt 1992 turbo wagon?......ARGH!!! I want it! Trade me :wink:

[Wiscon_Mark]

Did I read that right? you have a 5mt 1992 turbo wagon?......ARGH!!! I want it! Trade me :wink:

No, he has a sedan.

The wagon pictured above is his wagon.

[sybir]

Yeah, I had a 92 wagon as well but traded it for the sedan as the sedan was in much better shape and a buddy owed me a favor.

Plus, I already had the hooptywagon :D

[shtbxr22]

Sellout, hell. The OB isn't going anywhere, and I've owned Subarus for almost 10 years (and the OB was in my family from new).
I currently have the OB, and a 92 Legacy Turbo wagon with a 5spd swap, TD05-16G, coilovers, etc etc etc.

I'm also the don of the Wagon Mafia, so I'll have your ass whacked :p


this is what I read.... :-?

[Wiscon_Mark]

Well, I guess stuff changes in 2 months. I didn't realize he ever had a turbo wagon with a 5MT...they're pretty rare (as they'd not be stock).

[Plays_with_Toys]

Something like 6 wagons in the US with 5speeds right? I think there were only 1 or 2 ever rightfully sold from the dealer in the US.

I have to say I liked your previous wheels. The gold six spokes. Those were the best on the car to date.

[Wiscon_Mark]

No, there were never any turbo wagons sold stock with a 5MT.

It would either be a dealer special, or a swap.

[sybir]

Yeah, I think any wagons with 5-speeds were dealer specials if they were bought "new" like that. Mine had a Forester 5MT in it.

It's kind of funny, I owned that damn red wagon twice without ever getting to drive it much (I actually haven't drivien it in 3 years, lol) or getting any pictures. This last time, I bought it sight unseen for a beater DD in case something happened to the OB (heh), and it ended up being in much worse shape than either of us thought; my buddy who was going to try and get it back into decent shape (and was the owner before me, the first time, and the one who did the swap and mods) just never had time, it got a quarter window broken out of it by vandals while in his yard, and he just gave me the black car instead as he had moved on to drifting 240's instead of the black sedan, and it was in great shape with a new tranny and perfect interior. The red car was just more of a project than I wanted to mess with when my daily commute is 160 miles, and the SS will go to a good home when I get the STi...

[sybir]

Oh, and on the wheels, I still have the gold Boosts, and they're my favorite set on the car too, but I wanted a second set to put all-seasons on, and I missed the bronze Actions and the understated look they gave the car, so these were perfect. The price was right, too. ($350 from a buddy with tires)

I should collect shoes, it's cheaper, this makes 19 sets on this car with another 2 on the SS, lol.

[sybir]

Ok, this kills me. I fatfingered and typed my domain into google instead of the address bar, then figured I'd scroll through and see if anyting goofy came up.

http://foros.hondaclub.com.ar/showthread.php?t=23369

What I wasn't expecting was an Argentinian Honda club memember chronicling my build and wheel changes :grin:


In other news, busted Morettes suck, but a guy in Quebec needed stock lights and is hooking me up with his old Morettes with burned reflectors in exchange so I can do a rebuild and get one good set together. +1 for cool Legacy peeps.

Anyone running expensive lights, ston-gard them now. I did it 3 years and 100k ago on roads with heavy debris (just look at the rest of the car), and it took a golf-ball sized rock to finally do any damage, and it only took out my outer lens and held the integrity of the light so I can still drive with it and use it.

I added an MRT front strut bar, and have an MRT axleback in the garage as well, but I should probably pass smog before I do more exhaust mods, seeing as how my tags expired in February :p

[Wiscon_Mark]

Yep, I feel much better with rockblocker on my headlights :grin:

[Perdue]

Maybe that honduh guy is claiming that car as his own...oh well.

I still love your wagon, and everytime I see it, I want one just like it. I need to save a few grand up for another BD or BG. Glad you got the car back though!

[Reason]

Sybir, they are just admiring the rims and your car in general. One of the guys wants the black rims. They also made a comment of the 2 suby's in the garage.

[Huffer]

sybir, I still hate you. :D
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... Ft%3D23369 (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fforos.hondaclub.com.ar%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D23369)

[sybir]

I still love ya, cupcake :D

I speak enough spanish to get the drift (i live in CA, after all), itjust made me smile.

[sybir]

*picwhorealert*

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/rfrsnaps/IMG_0701.JPG

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/rfrsnaps/IMG_0654.JPG

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/rfrsnaps/IMG_0665.JPG

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/rfrsnaps/IMG_0668.JPG

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/rfrsnaps/IMG_0729.JPG

New wheels are growing on me, I wasn't sure about the spoky look to start with. Debating whether I should make these satin black like the SDR's were.

[Wiscon_Mark]

I think you should leave them that color, they match the slate color really well.

[badbasser98]

I think you should leave them that color, they match the slate color really well.
+1 :wink:

Looking good as always...

If anyone needs to know what different wheels look like on their wagon, they need not look further than this thread :razz:

[Aken]

Sexy as usual :cool:

[Tazmaniandevil]

Man I love that car.
Where did you get your headlights etc.? They really make the difference. We don't have many decent custom kit vendors here in the UK. They all seem to think it's OK to charge crazy prices for kit, and only keep stock for Imprezas, Hondas and other fairly common cars. The Legacy is still quite a rarity over here compared with other 'sporty' type cars.
I was toying with the idea of getting a set of classic Imp morettes and modding them for my '92 wagon, but if it's possible to buy them ready made for my car I would rather go down that route.
Oh and did I say your beast is awesome?

[Wiscon_Mark]

Dude, you have more access to Legacy stuff than we do :lol:

The morettes are made in France, that's about all I know. They're no longer sold in the US, and they were uber expensive when they were sold.

Impreza Morettes would be a stretch on the Legacy, but if you really want to go for it, good luck.

[sybir]

Thanks for the comments, glad you like the car :D

I actually got the Morettes from Demon Tweeks a number of years ago, through a US retailer.
As far as I know, Morette only made fitments for the BD/BG Legacies, not the BC/BF's. A guy I knew was playing with putting a set of aftermarket Civic projectors in his BF, but I'm not sure how far he got; he said the shape was much closer, though.

My headlights are a blessing and a curse; I love them, but I'm pretty much screwed for replacement parts on them; I lucked out and I'm waiting on some lenses now, but I don't think I'll be that lucky in the future.

[Wiscon_Mark]

Oh, Christ, I'm sorry, I was thinking he had a BG/BD...

Yeah, a retrofit is your best bet.

[Tazmaniandevil]

Ahhh Civic eh? I'll have a look at those as well then.
The problem over here is there are millions of Imprezas around with plenty mods, but few modded Legacies. Most Leggie owners tend to keep them stock, and go for the stealth approach. That being the case, custom kit for older Leggies is harder to come by, and comes at stupid prices.
I grew up in the era of heavy customisation where roofs were being chopped and cars were drastically jacked in the rear or lowered to inches from the ground. I like individuality.
I overlaid a photo of the classic Impreza morette kit on my Gen 1 lamp unit, and it is fairly close. Some glass fibre and bondo should do the trick, but if the Civic is closer.......
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l150/tazmaniandevil_1503/uklegacy/Impreza-Aftermarket-Overlay.jpg
Unfortunately with 2 teenagers running around the house, money is not as plentiful as I would like so mods for the car take a back seat. My wagon currently looks like sh1t because I'm partway through treating the rust on the body panels, and don't have anywhere under cover to work.
I would love to have a 'shop to work in, to keep my baby looking mint. I can't even rent a place because of the stupid bye-laws etc.
Keep up the good work though fella, and I'll keep drooling over the results.

[HotBoxer]

was this the car on the cover of subiesport in 2005 or 2006. I thought it looked familiar. Definitely the sweetest OB ever. even the sublety of removing the pinstripe sets it off so much. good work sybir.

[Reason]

was this the car on the cover of subiesport in 2005 or 2006. I thought it looked familiar. Definitely the sweetest OB ever. even the sublety of removing the pinstripe sets it off so much. good work sybir.

I think you are thinking og the kid with the maroon and gold outback. I think he is a NASIOC guy.

[sybir]

Yeah, you're thinking of Russell with his "show car" :wink:
To each his own; Russel's car is actually a 99, so it's the maroon color with a tan lower instead of the black/slate. Haven't seen it lately, not sure what happened to it. The show scene isn't really my thing, I can't get that into all the paintwork and politics with judging, etc.

I just like driving my car, that's why it normally looks hammered :grin:
I prefer it that way. Cars are supposed to be enjoyed, not polished with a diaper and rolled out at shows only. My car only gets entered in shows when it makes admission to an event cheaper or gives me free parking :D

Best SUV in Class:

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[stanz]

Did you paint the Morettes? They seem to be color matched to the bumper now :wink:

[sybir]

Wazzat?

I think I hit them with some satin black at some point int he last couple years since the ABS was fadign a bit, yeah. They definitely don't match the bumper, but the grille, lights, and hood scoop insert are all the same satin black finish these days.

[stanz]

ok on second look they definitely dont match the slate color lol. but they're lookin more on the gray side probably cuz of the sun and some fading.

myyy bad

[sybir]

Ummm........new rims. :oops:

The hoopty is finally legal...this is set 21 :grin:

17x8 Hyper Black Torques, with a cheater 235/40/17 Nexen A/S (it's as wide as the 245/40 Pirellis on the STi, pretty beefy). No rubbing yet but I haven't pushed it. These tires are close to half an inch wider than either the 070's or the 235/40 Ventus RS2's I had on the Boosts (which will stay as the summer wheels). The G-forces are up for sale with used-up 070's, I'd rather not ship but if anyone's set on them, let me know.

Yes, it's dirty, it's parked outside again, so I've pretty much given up. After a quarter-million miles, it can be dirty :D
Apologies for the crap pics, my dad is playing with my XTi, so I'll get better ones in a few weeks with the wagon cleaned up to boot.

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Also some engine bay shots (even dirtier) since I never snapped them before and so people can see (hopefully) how easy the grill is to install.

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[sybir]

Took some real pictures in the hoopty's current state; she's been pretty neglected since I started focusing on the STi, so I cleaned her up a bit. Finally got replacement Morette lenses, need to get them rockblocked before I put them in. Picked up another STi CBE and will mate it with some equal-length headers to put the exhaust system back where I want it.

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[dplacencia]

Very nice pics! :grin:

[Plays_with_Toys]

I was just about to post a "Where's Sybir?" thread. :lol: Still looks amazing!

[that one legacy]

I was just about to post a "Where's Sybir?" thread. :lol: Still looks amazing!

Sybir will always be looking for his next set of wheels while he's sitting here telling himself (and everyone else) that "this is the last set!" :grin:

looks good as always sybir! but seriously man, you need to sell that car or something, cause that's gonna be the only thing that'll keep you from buying more rims! :cool:

[sybir]

I'll never sell the car :D

[livestrong14]

looks so sick! Needs a Cobb intake, and a nice exhaust!

[suba-rude]

dude your car is so sexy! I want those headlights!!!!

[ryu_haneda]

Since I did WinterKnoll's GT, and felt a little artsy, I figured I'd give you a little gift. Enjoy! :grin:

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[WinterKnoll]

LOL that's great.

[sybir]

Dude, I'm dying over here :D

That's great, thanks!

[Mr. Sociable]

One of the hottest Legacy/Outbacks I've ever seen.



Wow. Just Wow. :love10:

[sybir]

**** stupid kids in hondas.

Came home, buddy was parked in the driveway so I parked across the street. Figure "i'm just leaving in a few hours anyways."

An hour later....
*Whack*
*alarm going off*

"that sounds like my alarm, mother ****er....."

Walk out and sure enough, two kids are sprinting away from an old CVCC that didn't make the corner.

The kid who was a passenger came back and gave me his info
driver was nowhere to be found.......even though he lives like a block or two away according to CHP....heh.

CHP towed his ****box, looks like I get to test AAA's attack dog skills.

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Toll is at: hatch, bumper, JDM center lights.

The rear of the wagon is......not happy.


Luckily, Andy has a rear light setup that I can get and hopefully get reimbursed by insurance.

[deadlydave]

That sucks man. I hope the bastard gets what's coming to him. I wish the hooptywagon a speedy recovery.

[Reason]

That hurts to see the wagon like that. Hope all goes well!

[ryu_haneda]

Sybir,

Sorry to hear about this. A judge once said (paraphrased): "A lot of people will give you advice on what to do regarding legal matters. However, you will find that most people will not pay the fine for you or do the time for you."

That being said, here are some things my life experience will advise you to do:

1. From here on in, make sure you get everything humanly possible in writing.
2. When you catch up with the driver, be as civil and straightforward as possible in resolving the issue. (The driver chose to run, so legal counsel may be necessary to not only choose a wise course of action, but to help conduct any kind of mediation or resolution services.)
3. Again - get everything humanly possible in writing.

Here's hoping all works out for you. The hit to your hatch doesn't look so bad, but I don't think that's the point. The driver could have hit your car harder, or could have hit a person instead and ran. (I thank my parents that they didn't let me get away with stuff when I was a kid.) I hope that this driver understands that they are going to have to face what they did sooner or later.

[sybir]

Yep. For what it's worth, in Cali it's not too much of an issue. Insurance is required to register a car. Insurance also has lawyers that go after registered owners. I have insurance for a reason, and uninsured motorist coverage for a reason; it's so that when crap like this happens, I file a police report, talk to the police, and then take it to a body shop, pick up a rental car, and go on my way. No reason to try to track down the kid, etc, when the car was towed, when the CHP will take care of their punishment, etc. My time and personal safety are worth more than some sort of justice against stupid kids. My car's still parked outside; if I tried to do something, I'd just be asking for retribution.

In terms of documentation, it's all covered through the system; the nice part about my car being parked legally on apublic street and the other driver taking off (but leaving his car) is that what I say goes from a legal perspective. I made my report, the registered owner refused to answer his door (apparently lives a few blocks down), so I don't have any worries about getting it taken care of except for a possible $250 deductible. On the plus side, I get a hashed rear bumper replaced and a new hatch. Ya win some, ya lose some.

[dplacencia]

Sorry to hear that. Hope everything works out.

[sybir]

Status report:

1997 Legacy Outback: obtained from body shop after 4 weeks.
HHUUUURRRRR: returned to the foul depths from whence it came.
Impossible to source JDM Legacy rear light section (thanks, Andy, it worked out OK): installed.
Retint at Eclipse, on body shop's dime: scheduled.
New wheels for wagon: waiting in corner of freshly tiled garage.
Hooptywagon: back in action.

Sybir: excessively happy about a 10 year old car with a quarter million miles on it.

check.
check check.

we pimpin.

:grin: :grin:

[Plays_with_Toys]

I was waiting to hear about wheels. Why did it have to go to the body shop?

[auspex]

Spoddyoddydopealicious, yo! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[sybir]

I was waiting to hear about wheels. Why did it have to go to the body shop?

Bada bing.

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With an emphasis on the "bing", courtesy of a stolen Civic, while the wagon was parked outside my house.

Oh well, rear of the car looks like new and AAA waived my deductible, so I'm ok with that.

Need to toss the new wheels on, will see what people think; another set of 17x8's with 235/40's. :D

[Plays_with_Toys]

did the guy in the civic take it off a jump? How'd he end up there?

[_RM_]

assholes in their stolen Hondas...damaged a really nice Legacy :evil:

[sybir]

It was parked across the street becuase my roommate was unloading rock in the driveway....only 2 hours it's been parked outside the driveway in 6 months...........oh well, these things happen. First time the car's been hit in 252000 miles.

I didn't see it, only heard it, and the kids were gone by the time I got outside, but they tried to make a corner in the rain, and, umm........didn't. Instead of just straightening out and driving over a lawn section on the corner, they kept the wheel turned and skated left to right along the back of the car. It kicked the car up ontot he curb (luckily, it was raining and it was a rolled curb, so no damage to the suspension). There was only a touch of paint transfer on the right corner that buffed out, all the damage was isolated to the hatch and bumper....still, a 3k repair bill, and then the glass guy at the bodyshop fucked up the seal on the glass transferring it over and had to replace it with a new window because the seal is integrated.....hence the retint. Will be around $4k all in, but I don't have to pay a dime, so I'm happy, and the car seems fine so far; I had the back apart swapping the lights tonight and all the work was done well, and they resprayed the wing that had unrelated damage as well.

[Huffer]

Does this mean the Boosts are for sale? ;)

[deadlydave]

Damn, that sucks. At least she'll be sittin' pretty on someone elses dime. :smile:

[ryu_haneda]

This thing is like the bionic car.

"We can rebuild it... make it stronger..."

[sybir]

Boosts are not for sale.......they're the summer wheels. ;)

New wheels will go on in the next few days.

[Plays_with_Toys]

You live in california. What does the windshift direction when winter comes? :lol:

[sybir]

You live in california. What does the windshift direction when winter comes? :lol:

Hush, you ;)

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[stanz]

stock lights and grill?

[_RM_]

Morettes not found :?: :?: :?:

[stanz]

stock lights and grill?

oh duh i remember these pics. they be old-er. he was provin a point that in snows in about 3 spots in the whole state :)

[sybir]

Front pic especially is pre-suspension. I have family and friends in Reno and Tahoe, which are like 90 minutes away, and I grew up in the snow. I'm usually too busy driftoring around like a jackass to take pictures :p

Not having snow tires is not an option, even if I'm not forging my way through salted roads every day. :D

[LunchBox04V]

Hey Sybir.......all I can say is WOW! Nice Wagon. Honestly, I would like to do the TEIN Flex coilovers on my BK. I think that you are on something else now, but I was wondering if you could get a picture of the rear strut tops. If I understand correctly, there is a little modification needed to make the TEIN's work. I would just like to have an idea of what I will need to do to the upper part of the rear suspension to make this happen. Got to love new jobs!!

Thanks again for the help.

[Reason]

You live in california. What does the windshift direction when winter comes? :lol:

Hush, you ;)

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Snow in cali pssh, nice photoshop skills :wink:

[sybir]

Still on the Flex's. No mods in the rear, and I just swapped the front strut tops side to side...........that's all you have to do.

;)

[LunchBox04V]

Thanks for the info there Sybir. One more........ You used TEIN Flex from a '04 STi. What was the part number from TEIN? I looked it up Part numbers and found this: '04 Impreza GDF WRX STi (Rim P.C.D.=100) Number: DSS40-6USS1.

I am not totally sure what the Rim PCD=100 means........ Are these the ones that you are using? I have a '99 BK, 30th Ann. Non Outback. Thanks for the help, it will really make things easier once the snow leaves in April.......at the latest.

[sybir]

I don't have the part number offhand, but those will bolt up. You'll have to adjust the fronts considerably higher than the Tein specs as the Legacy uprights are way taller; that's the only part I don't like.

The PCD = 100 means it's for a 5x100 STi, IE a US '04, which means the lower knuckles are the same Subaru knuckles from 89-onward in terms of bolt spacing and alignment. The '05 STi knuckles are different and require different lowers, hence the distinction.

I will be perfectly honest and say that the Tein setups are pretty car-specific; I've had a few other cars running the correct fitment for the car (a 92 Legacy Turbo, and my '05 STi, as well as driving a few friends with WRX and Legacy GT (05+), and they ride a lot better than the wagon; I don't know that I'd drop $1800 on new Flex's given they're not technically the right fitment and there's some compromises in the front (not as much thread engagement, etc).

Expect a firm ride and that you'll need to be pretty low in front to be safe (or add a lot of preload, which isn't optimal). The pictures of my car in the last 2 years or so (SDR's, Superleggeras, Boosts, G-Forces, Torques) are all at what is probably a touch higher than you should ever go in the front; in other words, it's maxed out heightwise; I just lowered it about 1/2" so I could sleep at night, and it'll rub the fornt fender liners on hard bumps witht he fat 235's on there. The tires and wheels are a pretty aggressive fitment, though, so I wouldn't expect everyone to have that issue.


Just keep in mind that you're going to be ending up with a compromise no matter what you mount up, and you'll be fine; we're the stepchildren of the US Subaru world anyways ;)

[LunchBox04V]

Wow, thanks again for the help there Sybir! That is what I needed to know. I have a buddy that bought some Flex's for is '04 STi, then recked the car before they got to his home (Subaru Abuse, we constantly remind him). He was going o sell me them for $1100, friend to friend kinda thing.

I was planning on running just 205/50/17 (it was either 50 or 45) or 215/45/17 so I think that I should end up ok, even running them a little lower in the front like you did. Thanks again for the help, it will save hours of headache!

[sybir]

What have we here?


Oh yeah, crappy pictures. I'm headed out of town, but she's back to 100%. Re-tinted, readjusted, rewashed :oops:

And, like it's any surprise, new wheels, that are growing on me. :D

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[peugoby]

Nice to see its back on the road! I'm really liking those winter rims... What are they? They match the color of the car very nicely.

[4n70n1n0]

WOW!!! I usually don't like OB's, but this one is AWESOME.

I thought that they were Rota Slipstreams, but they are not.

[sybir]

Actually, they are ;)

17x8, ET48 Steel Grey Rota Slipstreams. No longer made, so I figured I'd try them out and I was pleasantly surprised.

They're on the same 235/40/17 allseasons that were on the torques; it's a wide 235 (like how an S03 or a RT-215 runs)

They tied in nicely with the lower color, I'll have to get some better pics when I have more time. Just glad to have the car back.

[2.5GT]

I think you should try a set of JDM projectors :eek:

[_RM_]

I think you should try a set of JDM projectors :eek:
I enjoy the Morettes better though...it just gives his car a more aggressive look. Not sure how I can describe it lol :razz:

[sybir]

I think you should try a set of JDM projectors :eek:

I'm not down with the RHD cutoff, plus I now have a full spare set of Morettes for parts, and I'm running HID's that wouldn't convert over, IIRC. The JDM projectors are a great option, but would be a step backward for the car (though certainly cheaper).

[caoutback]

hey Sybir, those new rims REALLY fit the car well style wise and all. Nice. Very nice.

[sybir]

Yeah, I think I might have to keep them, they're growing on me.

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Next item to search for is a new steering wheel; the Momo is trashed after a very long life on multiple cars, which sucks since it fits the car perfectly. I can't decide what to go with.

[DOOK]

car is looking really good sybir... glad to see I'm not the only wheel whore who owns a subaru. i've owned my subaru for a little over a month and already own 3 sets of wheels and 3.5 sets of tires haha.

[sybir]

The slips are the 22nd set of wheels for this car, lol.

[Reason]

The slips are the 22nd set of wheels for this car, lol.

lol Do you also have commitment problems in relationships?? lol

[Mr. Sociable]

The slips are the 22nd set of wheels for this car, lol.

At say an averaga of $1000 per set of wheels (and that could very well be a lowball average :roll: ) Thats $22000 in wheels. At $1500/set it goes up to $33000.



:shock:

[sybir]

That's assuming I kept all 22 sets. You're also assuming that it's over $1k per set, I think I've paid that for 4 sets of wheels, tops, with tires. I flip sets and keep tires, buy takeoffs, move stuff around. I have hookups on new tires, hookups on takeoff sets (I've bought a total of twenty near-new RE070's for a sum total of $500), etc. The wagon has over 250k miles on it, too; assuming 20k out of performance tires, tops, that's an easy 12 sets of new-> corded tires over that timeframe. For a recent example, I sold the new Torques that I ran for a bit (and paid wholesale for) to a buddy for $450, and paid the same amount for the Slipstreams. $30 to swap and rebalance tires at a buddy's shop, and that's another set of wheels on the car what is essentially a $0 investment.

Honestly, I buy and sell and keep things pretty even; with the exception of the necessity for new tires, my total investment for wheels in this car (initial cost + money I lost with sellin cheap and buying new wheels) I'm probalby not over $2500 over the life of the car, or $250 a year :D

It's all in the game ;)

[DOOK]

it's all about part slangin. I often do that still on the nissan forum if i know something is priced far below what it's worth. I'll pick it up dirt cheap in hope I would need it or know someone who did. Sometimes it works out, sometimes someone posts a urgent need to buy parts thread and I make a little...

[Mr. Sociable]

Damn. Well I'm still impressed Sybir, and it's stil one of the best looking Legacies ever.

[sybir]

Found a new wheel, for now (tracked down another Daytona Carbon here as well, which I'm very thankful for....)

Momo Race somethingorother, custom black alcantara doorcard inserts by chipLRX (thanks, bud, came out perfect) and a lot of dust, dirt, etc.

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Next up is phasing out the 2g ipod and running integration into the glovebox for a new one, to clean up the center console a bit. Also need to track down a set of spare coilovers, as the Flex's are coming up on 80k and one is finally leaking.....time for a rebuild and I'm not putting the car on jacks, but I don't think any of my rolling stock will clear stock suspension...owned.

I really can't wait for it to stop raining for a bit so I can wash the car and have it clean for more than a day, heh. Also considering a wheel change (shocking!) as I'm missing black wheels. Will probably switch it up this summer while I'm on the boosts, so the Slips will be up for sale/trade at some point in the near future.

That's about it for now, lol.

[deadlydave]

Awww, and I liked the slips on there too.

Your interior is really nicely done. Both classy and pimp-tastic at the same time. :cool:

[sybir]

Awww, and I liked the slips on there too.

Your interior is really nicely done. Both classy and pimp-tastic at the same time. :cool:

Gotta be the gold pedals :grin:

The slips will stay unil I find something else, I just can't justify a $350 powdercoat job on a $450 set of wheels, lol.

[dplacencia]

Very nice interior. :grin:

[sybir]

Thanks :D

I figured I should take some pictures with the car clean (damn pollen) before they come off for spring/summer.

I know, new pics, me, big surprise. Try to contain your disbelief. ;)

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Herra Frush!

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[Tadashisan]

herra frush for real man thats sexy, ima need to go to norcal and steal yer headlights.

[WinterKnoll]

Still the nicest wagon on this website, hands DOWN.

[2.5GT]

Is that a STi dead pedal? where you score that at? :grin:

[sybir]

Full STi AT pedal set including dead pedal, scored by a Japanese friends years ago.

[dplacencia]

Great Pics!!

[Wagonista]

How did you remove the pinstripe? Haha sybir your wagon has always made me feel better about my car choice.

[Plays_with_Toys]

^^^ not to mention it's his car in your avatar!

[Wagonista]

^^^ not to mention it's his car in your avatar!

Haha technically. It's one of his stickers on my car.

[Plays_with_Toys]

A sticker designed from a photo of his car. That's why he's the don. :wink:

[sybir]

hehehe. :D

I removed the pinstripe very, very tediously, pulling it off one, cracking, frustrating bit at a time.
I have a cool eraser wheel that jsut pulls up vinyl, but it was too risky to buzz the rest of the lower trim vinyl so I had to do it all by hand.

Use a heat gun (or a blowdryer if you can't find one, though Harbor Freight usually has a basic one for $20 and they're great to have around) and it'll go easier; just get a section up and proceed slowly so you pull up as much adhesive as possible. Then go back with goo-gone and get the rest of the residue off, changing to a new rag frequently so you're not dragging any dirty adhesive across your paint, it'll destroy it.

[Wagonista]

Thanks for the tip. I think I'll try that when it gets warmer out.

[DOOK]

wagons... gotta love em... i love mine.

[chipLRX-SLI]

nice man i love the wagon . thanks man . if anyone is interested in door cards i have a set awaiting fabric or paint . alos a custom jdm grill . pm me for pics. sorry for hustling all my random parts . once again amazing leg man . by far the sweetist outback i have ever seen .

[1-3-2-4]

haha finally found this thread again

Those area Hella 500 fogs right? How are they compared to the OEM fogs?

And another question where in the heck do you find a rear spoiler for the wagon? the one I saw are all for the 2000+ model year and the other was for the GT sedan and SUS model.

[sybir]

It's been so long since I shelled out one of the OEM fogs I can barely remember; this is like the 3rd or 4th set of 500's in there, lol. To be honest, you can't see much difference on a good fog setup because they're set low enough to not interfere with main beams; the 500's throw a wider path than stock for sure.


On the spoiler, dunno if you can get them anymore; I tracked mine down when they were clearing them out of dealer stockback in '04, painted and everything. Not sure where you could track one down now.

[1-3-2-4]

It's been so long since I shelled out one of the OEM fogs I can barely remember; this is like the 3rd or 4th set of 500's in there, lol. To be honest, you can't see much difference on a good fog setup because they're set low enough to not interfere with main beams; the 500's throw a wider path than stock for sure.


On the spoiler, dunno if you can get them anymore; I tracked mine down when they were clearing them out of dealer stockback in '04, painted and everything. Not sure where you could track one down now.

How did you get the lights to stay in? And they are not a sealed beam is it?

At least you have a better color to work with.. mine would be green/tan Limited never knew a the spoiler might be hard to find.

[sybir]

Lights are in with custom brackets; they're actually mounted upside down but they're fogs so it doesn't matter. They're not sealed beams, they use the same bulbs as stock.

[Kansei]

I just wanna know what the paint code is for that car.....

I want my sedan in either that color set or white.

[1-3-2-4]

crap custom bracket.. something I have to make myself or it's ready made?

[sybir]

You can make it yourself........noone makes parts for these cars. It's basically just an L-bracket, it's not rocket science.


I can grab the paint code, it's Black Granite Pearl in Subaru parlance. Can't remember the name for the lower color.

[1-3-2-4]

That sounds pretty easy have another week to wait for the car so plenty of time to grab parts to be ready.

[caoutback]

On the spoiler, dunno if you can get them anymore; I tracked mine down when they were clearing them out of dealer stockback in '04, painted and everything. Not sure where you could track one down now.
At least you have a better color to work with.. mine would be green/tan Limited never knew a the spoiler might be hard to find.
I got one earlier in the year from http://www.car-part.com/ in the used body parts section. Can usually find one in all the factory colors but prices vary. Mine was $75 shipped but they only had White (the yard I called that is).

[sybir]

New updates; I haven't had the car for about 3 months; lent it to a few friends who had downed scoobies of their own and needed a driver. It's got 260k on it, what's a few miles between friends? :D

Back on golds. New 18's are waiting for powdercoat.
Smoked Morette corners
Almost clean (heh)
Equal-length headers into 2.5" resonated header-back with a Magnaflow. The car is loud again, and quicker, but lost some of the boxer rumble.
New plates, since the car is staying NA.
Got nominated for the car show for our big yearly meet in CA, so snapped some new pics.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2008/07/IMG_4258JPG-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2008/07/IMG_4247JPG-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2008/07/IMG_4246JPG-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2008/07/IMG_4233JPG-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2008/07/IMG_4162JPG-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2008/07/IMG_4106JPG-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2008/07/IMG_4130JPG-1.jpg

[DOOK]

looking good as usual bro.

[Huffer]

Sweet plate sybir!

[BE-Fresh]

Hahahaha, looks nice and the plates are a great touch

[sexystover]

soundclip/videos???? btw ur car is teh sex

[deadlydave]

haha, nice plate sybir.

And, a fantastic car as always. 2-tone FTW.

[oskar_subaru]

i LOVE this wagon :smt007:

so much in fact, that i´m getting the same wheels for mine :oops:

[Perdue]

Again...this car is sex. You make me hate my truck even more.

[Kansei]

all I can say is.......



ITS NOT FAIR!!!

[Kansei]

what are the upgrades on youre suspension and brakes?

Asking on here because my PM was ignored....

[Huffer]

what are the upgrades on youre suspension and brakes?

Asking on here because my PM was ignored....

Read the first pages of the thread. It's all in there.

[Kansei]

AH ok!

[sybir]

Sorry I missed the PM, I really try not to ignore anyone. You wouldn't believe how many PM's I get on here, on NASIOC, and on I-club where I'm an admin about all the different setups and how they're done and what springs someone should run, and what online store sells all the parts on my car, etc. I try to keep up but sometimes something slips through. That's why I try to write everything up as much as I can, so at least I know it's out there somewhere. I'm not an expert, I just play one on TV. ;)

And if you want good comedy, consider this scenario (and I'm not complaining, mind you): I have 3 Subarus (the wagon, the STi, and the black RWD legacy) plus a GC racecar that people associate with me and think are cool, and the wagon alone has had 25 different sets of wheels; the STi has 3 different sets of bronze wheels, right?

I get PM's like the following, quoted verbatim:

"hey man.. saw your suby on the wheel tread. what finish is that?"

*bangs head against wall*
That will trigger a chain of 10-20 PM's trying to narrow it down unless I send a PM with a picture and description of every wheel I've ever had that's bronze on every car I've had, lol. I get at least 1-2 PM's like that a week.

I need to go back and update my first post, but the big hits are Tein Flex coilovers for an STi ('04, 5x100), front whiteline swaybar, front and rear strut bars (MRT/Whiteline), an ALK, and endlinks on th suspension side, and stoptech 328's in front with power-slot rotors and upgraded pads out back.

[Kansei]

thanks alot man! I think my BD will be seeing some stuff once I get that new job!!!

[sexystover]

still wiating on a video/soundclip of the exhaust =D

[sybir]

You'll be waiting a while....I don't have a DVcam or a point&shoot that does video/audio, I use a DSLR.

Sorry. Imagine a Honda with a little bit of boxer thrown in. It's not what I prefer in terms of sound, but it feels nice and I just turn up the stereo ;)

[nosbocaj]

Wow, great looking car sybir! I love the wheels! Keep up the good work!

[sybir]

Zero gap with 18's, heh. Time to bust out the roller for the front.

Subtlety is not one of my strong points, but hey. OE color on these too, got them for next to nothing from a guy who decided he couldn't pull it off. Yes, they're cheapies, and no, I don't care. They're dual-bolt pattern, so they're going on the STi next to perturb more people.


https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2008/08/IMG_4295JPG-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2008/08/IMG_4294JPG-1.jpg

[Huffer]

I like em. Tonka toys FTW!

[1-3-2-4]

I like it!

[nosbocaj]

I like them too. They look really good.

[1-3-2-4]

lol almost thought it was photoshopped cuz of center caps lol

[sybir]

Nope, centercaps are real too :)

[rougeben83]

Zero gap with 18's, heh. Time to bust out the roller for the front.

Subtlety is not one of my strong points, but hey. OE color on these too, got them for next to nothing from a guy who decided he couldn't pull it off. Yes, they're cheapies, and no, I don't care. They're dual-bolt pattern, so they're going on the STi next to perturb more people.



Haha, I hate to say it, but I kind of enjoy trolling people almost as much as receiving compliments too... :twisted:

[Kansei]

you should really hook me up on some of your old wheels... I need something that doesnt look so small.......... 14's suck....

[sybir]

I've got 18's that need a paint job, that's about it. I don't actually have 25 sets of wheels in the garage, just, ummm, 4 spare sets between the cars.

These are up FS but I want to keep it local as I don't have boxes and don't like the hassle of shipping wheels. Also, one os OD green, one's gold, one's white, and one's flat black, as I was playing with colors. 18x7.5 ET45. Clears stoptechs, I don't have 5x100 Brembos to test on. Crappy pics.

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/dronell1.jpg

http://www.hooptywagon.com/img/dronellwhite.jpg



I'll shut up now, lol.

[rougeben83]

I've got 18's that need a paint job, that's about it. I don't actually have 25 sets of wheels in the garage, just, ummm, 4 spare sets between the cars.

These are up FS but I want to keep it local as I don't have boxes and don't like the hassle of shipping wheels. Also, one os OD green, one's gold, one's white, and one's flat black, as I was playing with colors. 18x7.5 ET45. Clears stoptechs, I don't have 5x100 Brembos to test on. Crappy pics.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/



I'll shut up now, lol.

dude, I would so rock a 4 colored wheel scheme :lol:

[Kansei]

me too!

[Okin DaVanh]

me too!

Ohhhh No! Harlequin rims!!! Look, See what you started oh mighty Wagon God!! j/k :grin:



With the +45 off set, was (could) there be any rubbing with out a roll? I forgot. (and I just tried a search)

[Kansei]

you guys seen the volkswagon harlequin?

I would actually drive one of those. what year did they come out?

[sybir]

On a 7.5 with a 215 or narrow 225, should be fine with a light roll if you're low.......I rolled my fenders originally because I was rubbing on a wide 215.....heh.

That said, I spent my morning adjusting coilovers and rolling the front fenders as well as stretching/reprofiling the fender liners so I could clear the 18x8 ET45's on 235/40/18's ;)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2008/08/IMG_4313JPG-1.jpg

It was a little close for comfort and is much better now.


I keep saying it, but I can't guarantee any setup will fit on any car, I can just say what can be done (in my experience) in most cases with a little work...

[1-3-2-4]

still looking pimp!

[4n70n1n0]

dude your car is amazing. your car is why I want to buy a wagon and your car will be the inspiration behind it.

[1-3-2-4]

yep when I found this thread it made me change my mind from getting the sedan then it set in that I would have to haul A/V equipment like dual 20" subs..