ok boys..heres another

[markv]

ok ladies, and men, I have another problem.

When I got my HID's (high beams the problem) the guy some how fixed it so when I flip on my fog lights switch, my hi beams go on too....

Now im stumped and I haven't gone to him yet cuz I dont wanna pay him another 100 or so to fix it....

If any of you fine people got sugggestions....just let them role. Im all ears

[blackgtbeauty]

What kind of Legacy is it?

[Superu264]

Make sure you post something only in ONE section.

[markv]

I have a 2006 Legacy GT 2.5L

[Wiscon_Mark]

Can you please be more detailed in what the guy did previously to your vehicle?

[blackgtbeauty]

I didn't think HID's involved tampering w/ stuff like that, just plu and play and done. Unless it's one that get power directly from the battery.

[Wiscon_Mark]

I didn't think HID's involved tampering w/ stuff like that, just plu and play and done. Unless it's one that get power directly from the battery.

It really shouldn't tamper with that stuff anyways.

It sounds like whoever did your install did something he shouldn't have (bungled it) and isn't being honest with you.

[GrassyKnoll]

I belive I know the problem.

Your HIDs are replacing your default headlights. With the newer legacys, when you turn your high beams on, your low beams STAY ON. This is something that makes a lot of sense but most cars don't do this (not sure why, gives much better visibility). Anyway, normally these lights are inline with the highbeams, the highbeam just connects the circuit. However, when you install HIDs, the highbeams no longer run off the same power line. Now your headlight power runs to your HID ballasts and it isn't a good idea to run this inline with your highbeams because they require different power consumption (providing inconsisten power to HIDs can damage the ballasts). Instead, what the previous installer did was ran the foglight circuit to your highbeam circuit. This is one option, but what I did for this is bought an extra lighting harness. This way, you can connect the harness directly to the battery for your highbeams and run your highbeam signal (one additional wire off your stock headlight connector) to the new harness to give it the 'ON' command. In this way, you can still have functional headlights without risking your HIDs.

Hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions.

[markv]

thanks grassy knoll.. i think i did understand what you sed.....question though.

Im new to the whole thing of modifying your car. What this guy did was show me what he called a "relay" he had to create so that it supposedly converted the power off the battery.

All i can sum up right now is that I have about six seperate boxes (about 2x1) that are supposed to play the role of relays.

(this happened when he put in my hids for my lo beams) he forgot to put in the relay so my lights would flicker like strobe lights (cop lights)

He theh told me that he put in a relay for my lo's and the problem was fixed. So right now I dont know whether he lyed to me about there ever being a relay..or he's just screwin* me over..?

[markv]

basically what im saying is that right now i have hid's for my hi beams....and my lo beams.....(lo's 8000k and hi's 10,000k.)

my fogs are reg. stocks. just a different brand

[GrassyKnoll]

Well a relay would explain that but I can't think of any reason that HIDs would be on relay. If HIDs were relayed then that would be quite bad for the lights themselves.

Based on your description it's hard to say how yours are set up now. However, buying a wiring harness for your type of headlight (I believe the 06 Legacys use H7s) would eliminate this problem. It would probably cost like $40 and would just run directly off the battery. Most simple harnesses allow you to plug your stock headlight plug into the harness and not deal with any custom wiring.

The other reason I did this is that it is the best reliable power supply to the HIDs. Analog HIDs (which is probably what you have, since digital HIDs just came out and only one company offers them) require a very specific and constant power supply becuase the ballasts are usually quite delicate (I've had two fail in my experience with HIDs). Direct linkage to the battery gives them a solid power supply and also eliminates the need to check fuses (althought this process isn't exteremely complicated :wink: ) to make sure the new HIDs have a proper rated fuse on the stock harness.

[GrassyKnoll]

basically what im saying is that right now i have hid's for my hi beams....and my lo beams.....(lo's 8000k and hi's 10,000k.)

my fogs are reg. stocks. just a different brand

Also, be careful not to flash your highbeams too frequently. Quick 'on-offs' on HIDs can also cause damage, especially in cheaper brands. Not sure what kind you have, just a warning :smile:

I'd like to see how those HIDs look in the 06 Leg. My Dad has one but he won't let me get near it with my HID kits :evil:

Post some pics once you get it working.

[Plays_with_Toys]

I thought HID's couldn't go high beam...?

[GrassyKnoll]

I thought HID's couldn't go high beam...?

A single set of HIDs can't do directional high-beams > meaning: 9007 (H4) bulbs can do low beam / high beam out of the same bulb. HID high beam only provides a smidge of extra power which brightens the light a tiny bit. No directional difference.

However, you can also install HIDs in a seaparate high-beam location (as with the Legacys 05+. It is possible, most people don't do it though. You can put anything you want in the high beams and they will work. Same situation with placing HIDs in high beams as HIDs in non-projection headlight casings. The light casing isn't made for the HIDs so the beam pattern isn't ideal. I can't really imagine a reason you would want HIDs as high-beams other than strictly for show becasue

A) it is harmful to view great distances with HIDs because the beam pattern doesn't allow your eyes to focus very well

B) it is extremely harmful to other drivers so you shouldn't have htem on when other people are driving by you

So even for show doesn't make a HUGE amount of sense ;)

Anyway, it is possible. All you have to do is put the HIDs in and run the power to them, same as any other HID installation :grin:

[markv]

hids can go hi beam you just a higher intensity output.....once i transfer my pics i'll put them on....the lo beams are bluish tint, and the hi's are pure white with a faint tinit of purple.

but thank you very much...just for reference.....each hid i think costed me about 150, cuz my guy got them for a good price supposedly. he sed for both a pack is 300..? maybe i got jipped....

[GrassyKnoll]

I hope for your sake you didn't. It is really a shame when Legacy owners get taken advantage of :wink:


I will tell you that is EXTREMELY cheap. Do you know what brand they are? I'm curious what you have for a set up. The cheapest HIDs I have found are Promax > www.buyHID.com (http://www.buyHID.com)

Anyway, let me know if you have more questions. HIDs are my specialy :razz:

[markv]

well let me see....mine were 300 for each kit

the hids are called california hid (sun shine)

[GrassyKnoll]

each hid i think costed me about 150, cuz my guy got them for a good price supposedly. he sed for both a pack is 300..? maybe i got jipped....

150 or 300 each ? :wink:

never heard of that brand though, so who knows.

[markv]

nah. it was 300 bucks for each kit. I have no clue. i did some of my research. and I never heard of them either.

all i no is that everything is working fine so far. my lo beams ive had them in for almost 6 months now and they're fine. The hi beams are looking good. and they haven't broken yet