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Sarra
12-25-2006, 03:53 AM
My first Legacy Wagon, a 1995 L, had no spoiler or anything at all on the top of the rear gate. The rear window got kinda dirty during normal driving.

Mom's 2003 Outback Limited has a dust strip, a little plastic strip above the top of the rear gate, that blows dust and crap off the rear window. That thing keeps the rear window pretty clean, unless it's really raining hard.

My 1998 Legacy 2.5GT Wagon has the sporty spoiler, and wow, the rear window is freaking filthy after just a few days! Does the spoiler on the back create a negative pressure zone right on the rear window or otherwise cause water/dirt/whatever is on the ground to get sucked up and stuck to the rear window that badly? I also noticed that when driving, the car has a huge roostertail in the rain. I've never had a car that did that before, my Sedan hardly kicked up spray at all when driving, even through heavy rain.

So, the question is, does the rear spoiler effect how dirty the rear window gets and how fast, or should I be looking at my tires instead? The tires are siped, and have no tread left. If the tires are kicking up lots of spray/dust/dirt, for whatever reason, would putting some mud flaps on help keep the windows cleaner?

And, last bit, I know there are no "made to fit" aftermarket rally-style mud guards, but I've seen people with home-made or custom mudflaps. What material to use, and where to get it? I can figure out where to make the holes, and how to affix them to the car, just would like to know about materials. I'd like flexible, durable flaps that hang down nearly to the ground, I figure that if they're that big, they'll prevent any nasty chips in the paint from when I drive on logging roads, and if they're flexible, they won't break if I hit a bump or otherwise compress the suspension and lower the body closer to the ground.

ah_alex_
12-25-2006, 11:15 AM
im not really sure the spoiler is the cause of the dirty window and more of just having a sedan. I had some stock mudflaps on until one broke(look on the passenger side)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2006/08/e922d048-1.jpg
so i took both off and i havent really noticed my window getting any dirtier. Could also be i clean my car about once a week :grin:

Plays_with_Toys
12-25-2006, 02:46 PM
I asked this a while ago, and the answer was that it is just a subaru aerodynamics thing that the back of the wagons get tons of spray on them. Even with my HUGE mudflaps, I get lots of spray swirling back to it. Here's a pic to show you:

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/1558/img2845vo3.jpg

I have 18x12 truck mudflaps from Advance auto. They are a thin plastic, and while they are quite durable, they make a very loud noise when they scrap along the ground (hard turns or lots of passengers). Its gone away moreso now that I've scraped off the bottom some, but with a full car it'll start scraping again in the turns. I will actually probably be selling these, since they won't fit with my suspension drop that's going to be installed in the next few weeks. They are already drilled and ready to go for the car, and the fronts already have curve fitted a little better (a result of highway driving, they now have a contour).

They do keep a HUGE amount of water off the sides of the car, like along the bump strip and below that. I had to pull them off because the snow was so deep I didn't want to rip them/my bumper off driving with the flaps on, and the car is now filthy.

I am probably going to pick up some red urethane flaps from rallylights.com. They sell just blank squares of the material, and these will be rubber and far more flexible (no scraping noise when cornering hard).

Sarra
12-25-2006, 04:54 PM
Haha, that's an awesome pic.

I was planning on a thick rubber, not plastic, which would make less noise and they would flex during normal driving, no rubbing on the ground.

Oh, rallylights.com I have that website bookmarked, I'll drop by them later.

Next question is, how do you actually affix them to the car? My old Legacy had 2 metal screws holding the stock mudflaps on, this car has the side skirts and there's only one metal screw accessible, the other screws are plastic. :( I was thinking about making a mounting bracket, using two verticle screws, it would then hold the top of the mud flaps against the rear of the wheel wells. A screw with a wide washer would hold them on the other side...

ah_alex_
12-25-2006, 05:33 PM
wow i totally misunderstood the question you were asking Sarra, I thought you had a sedan, my bad.

Sarra
12-25-2006, 08:23 PM
lol I had a BE sedan, that's been sold. I've got a 1998 GT Wagon now. ;)

Speaking of BE, I have two front stock mud flaps from my old BE. Anyone want 'em? I'll send them free, just pay shipping. One has a little chunk removed from it, the other looks okay.

Plays_with_Toys
12-25-2006, 09:27 PM
They both are fixed with two screws and fender washers (1" in diameter). The front has a screw up high and another one about 5-6" inside of the fender. The rears are both located closer to the outside of the car, allowing the rear to swing a little more freely.

Sarra
12-26-2006, 01:14 AM
I'm giong to have to take part of the side skirts off to get to the mounting screws, it looks like. :(