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outbackmike
02-05-2007, 11:43 AM
well it was -40 degrees celsius this morning,and during the night.i haven't plugged my block heater and this morning is didn't start.i was completely disappointed since the intrepid that i had last year started perfectly fine when it was that cold.
its plugged in now and we'll se how it does in an hour or two...

belladonna
02-05-2007, 01:05 PM
:-( awh man that stinks! it's pretty nasty cold here too. although i dont' know how you put up with temps that low...i enjoy my warm/hot weather too much! :lol:

Khanhfucious
02-05-2007, 01:16 PM
were at like..5F here..with a -15F wind chill..my Scoobaru starts fine int he morning..just takes a couple seconds longer to crank..

I remote start my car, then take my morning shower..its sooo coolldd!!

Wiscon_Mark
02-05-2007, 01:19 PM
It's only about -15* here...car starts, but it struggles for the 1st couple minutes running.

backpack09
02-05-2007, 01:20 PM
WHERE IS HERE?

Can everyone please put their location in their Profile or sig?

belladonna
02-05-2007, 01:21 PM
i think with the wind chill factor it's about -5 out right now....
my car did take a couple extra cranks to start this morning though...way too cold!

pdawg
02-05-2007, 01:38 PM
I thought it was cold here at 18 F . I guess I am lucky.

gil_ong81
02-05-2007, 01:44 PM
I thought it was cold here at 18 F . I guess I am lucky.
ya see. i TOLD YOU to beware of those crazy southerners.

belladonna
02-05-2007, 01:46 PM
holy poop! it's 18 in tennessee? good grief! and i was wishing i was living down south again...i guess no one is safe this time

Reason
02-05-2007, 03:04 PM
holy poop! it's 18 in tennessee? good grief! and i was wishing i was living down south again...i guess no one is safe this time

lol Jess said down south :grin:

warrior
02-05-2007, 03:16 PM
It's like -35°C with a windchill here which is like -31°F for you US folk.. my car started no problem.. gotta love Optima Yellowtop Batteries :cool:

Reason
02-05-2007, 03:19 PM
No matter the temp my Legacy started up easily. Colder weather around 35 and less it struggled a bit but nothing to be worried about.

02LGT
02-05-2007, 04:53 PM
well it was -40 degrees celsius this morning,and during the night.i haven't plugged my block heater and this morning is didn't start.i was completely disappointed since the intrepid that i had last year started perfectly fine when it was that cold.
its plugged in now and we'll se how it does in an hour or two...

-40 deg. celcius is hard to believe...if you convert... its same as -40F...still kinda hard to get to that level of coldness with ambient temp...you're talking about 40 degrees below freezing point...you must live inside an iceburg...jk

But i dont think its because of the boxer engine that you couldnt start your car...it may have been something else.

Perdue
02-05-2007, 05:25 PM
I never had a problem no matter how cold it was here. Is it possible that your problem lies within the battery?

Plays_with_Toys
02-05-2007, 06:32 PM
Hahaha... Colorado just came out of the cold snap. It was 40 or 50* F today. Tomorrow will be in the 60's. :twisted:

outbackmike
02-05-2007, 06:33 PM
i did think about that already,i might change the battery,I do want to change my spark plugs as well,any suggestions on what kind is the best?

Wiscon_Mark
02-05-2007, 07:01 PM
i did think about that already,i might change the battery,I do want to change my spark plugs as well,any suggestions on what kind is the best?

First off, tell us how it's not starting before you dive into plugs. If it were plugs, the starter would crank, but you wouldn't get fire....

NGK coppers are the best plugs.

outbackmike
02-05-2007, 07:51 PM
well just like you said,it cranks but theres no fire.
mark is there a spesific model of the NGK coppers for the ej25?

d1giPhux
02-05-2007, 08:13 PM
Yea.. i was actually thinking about that this morning.. subarus cold start up is pretty pathetic. My old 91 crx use to start up a hell of a lot better in the winter than my subaru does. While my suby doesnt have any probs.. its kind of annoying thinking that a 1991 honda crx did better in the freezing cold weather.. and it gets FREEZING damn cold here. Even my moms nissan altima starts up better. Its kinda sad. :cry:

backpack09
02-05-2007, 09:12 PM
WHERE IS HERE?

Can everyone please put their location in their Profile or sig?

Wiscon_Mark
02-05-2007, 10:18 PM
Yea.. i was actually thinking about that this morning.. subarus cold start up is pretty pathetic. My old 91 crx use to start up a hell of a lot better in the winter than my subaru does. While my suby doesnt have any probs.. its kind of annoying thinking that a 1991 honda crx did better in the freezing cold weather.. and it gets FREEZING damn cold here. Even my moms nissan altima starts up better. Its kinda sad. :cry:

CRX has a much smaller engine to crank.

Look at the NGK fit chart - it'll just give you a model year and engine.

d1giPhux
02-05-2007, 10:37 PM
Yea.. i was actually thinking about that this morning.. subarus cold start up is pretty pathetic. My old 91 crx use to start up a hell of a lot better in the winter than my subaru does. While my suby doesnt have any probs.. its kind of annoying thinking that a 1991 honda crx did better in the freezing cold weather.. and it gets FREEZING damn cold here. Even my moms nissan altima starts up better. Its kinda sad. :cry:

CRX has a much smaller engine to crank.

Look at the NGK fit chart - it'll just give you a model year and engine.

Yes.. yes.. this is quite true. 1.6 is definitely a lot smaller. Just seems like they SHOULD do a little better in the cold.. but eh... im not complaining.. bitch still starts up! thats all i care about!

Christopher Marks
02-06-2007, 12:25 PM
ahhh, it should be 81°F today.

rougeben83
02-06-2007, 12:38 PM
ahhh, it should be 81°F today.

I hope a coyote pees on your wheels.

:twisted:

SHOfast
02-06-2007, 05:15 PM
Poor starting seems to be a Subaru thing. I have seen cars with much larger and much smaller engines start on what seemed like half a turnover. I have also seen a few that start worse too, Mazda rotaries and Audi's come to mind.

Wiscon_Mark
02-06-2007, 05:22 PM
Poor starting seems to be a Subaru thing. I have seen cars with much larger and much smaller engines start on what seemed like half a turnover. I have also seen a few that start worse too, Mazda rotaries and Audi's come to mind.

I wouldn't say more cranks = poor starting. It's just the way it works. As long as it starts smoothly, I'm a happy man.

d1giPhux
02-06-2007, 05:37 PM
Poor starting seems to be a Subaru thing. I have seen cars with much larger and much smaller engines start on what seemed like half a turnover. I have also seen a few that start worse too, Mazda rotaries and Audi's come to mind.

I wouldn't say more cranks = poor starting. It's just the way it works. As long as it starts smoothly, I'm a happy man.

Yea.. its just embarassing when all your friends THINK there is something wrong with your car because it takes so long to turn over. But hell.. as long as it starts.. whatever.

backpack09
02-06-2007, 05:46 PM
Poor starting seems to be a Subaru thing. I have seen cars with much larger and much smaller engines start on what seemed like half a turnover. I have also seen a few that start worse too, Mazda rotaries and Audi's come to mind.

I wouldn't say more cranks = poor starting. It's just the way it works. As long as it starts smoothly, I'm a happy man.

A higher CR engine will typically fire up on fewer revs than a lower CR motor. But there are alot of factors that go into how you car starts. Something as simple as a pinhole leak in your gas tank or vapor recovery line, can cause your fuel system to loose prime. There for you have to crank the engine more to run your fuel pump to get some go juice into the engine.

Try it with a carborator. If I don't drive my truck for a couple of days, the fuel in the carbs bowls evaporates. The truck has a mechanical fuel pump driven off the cam. It sometimes takes me 5 of 6 tries to get her to fire. And god forbid I run out of gas without someone around to give me a jump or my battery will die before I get fuel up to the carb.

Dan

Brockley
02-07-2007, 01:27 AM
car starts, but it struggles for the 1st couple minutes running.

its like 0 here... same story tho..

yotabeater
02-08-2007, 11:43 AM
well just like you said,it cranks but theres no fire.
mark is there a spesific model of the NGK coppers for the ej25?

i just use ngk v-power plugs. i've always had good luck with them, period. don't use bosch's for the love of god. i tried bosch's twice in 2 different vehicles and my mpg dropped 2-4 mpg both times. just get the regular ngk v-power's from schuck's for like $2 each.

yotabeater
02-08-2007, 11:44 AM
well just like you said,it cranks but theres no fire.
mark is there a spesific model of the NGK coppers for the ej25?

i just use ngk v-power plugs. i've always had good luck with them, period. don't use bosch's for the love of god. i tried bosch's twice in 2 different vehicles and my mpg dropped 2-4 mpg both times. just get the regular ngk v-power's from schuck's for like $2 each.