Opinions on best tires

[weonlylivetodie]

So I just realized exactly how bald my tires really are so i need some help deciding what i want for my car. I have a '96 Subaru legacy outback, im looking for all season passenger tires (size p205/70r15) so if anyone could give me like a top 5 list of the best tires, price isn't a problem...ive heard that this tire is the best then i hear that this is the best....i need something that is good in snow since i live in montana and something that is good in rain since it seems to be pouring all the time now and im tired of hydro planning....so any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks

[Tris_STi]

Get some RE-92s, I hear those are EXCELLENT.

[sheepdog]

I'm running all season Pzero nero's on my accord and I am extremely pleased with them

[Tris_STi]

Accord? :lol:

PZNeros are kickass, from what I hear, but they don't handle snow.

Look, kid, you're not going to find tires that perform well and can handle Montana winters. . . you may want to think about sets of tires instead. Wet handling tires are great for wet and slippery conditions, but don't perform as 'stellar' as you'd like in the snow. You may just need snow tires for when the occasion arises.

[Plays_with_Toys]

I agree with Tris.

No all season tire is going to be good at anything. Its going to do everything just kind of ok. If you can afford it now, a set of snow and winter tires actually saves you money because your tires stretch for a longer wear time. Snow tires are a softer compound, so you won't want to keep them on during the hot/dry months.

[Perdue]

I've been told that the P-Zero Nero M&S is a damn good tire for year round driving as long as you're not in more than a couple inches of snow. These are the tires I plan on putting on my 17s in november if I don't find a decent pair of OEM 5-spoke 16s for a fair price. Gotta clear those 4-pots.

[gator gt]

I'm guessing that since he is in Montana...he's seeing more than a couple inches. I'd also side with Tris. Once you embrace the lifestyle of sets of tires, you'll never go back to all seasons. especially when you have each set on their own rims!

Try looking at Nokians. Cold climate tire.

Try Gislaveds as well. I've had mine for two seasons and they ROCK. Nordfrost 2 studded. Studs are well worn due to my commutes but when they were fresh....WOW! They were stellar.

Summers? Depends on what you want to spend.

cheaper: Avon Tech M500 Asymmetrical (non-A/S)

not cheaper: Goodyear GS D2 is getting some pretty high reviews

ol standby: Bridgestone Potenza Pole Position S-03

Don't know too much about Pirellis.

GGT

[Pwise2326]

I'd go with the two sets of tires if you are in Montana. You'll need something that will do battle with a good amount of powder I would imagine. As far as summers go, look into Hankook Ventus Sport K104's, they were rated amongst the best for top grip, dry/wet traction, tread life, etc in European Car magazine. They won't cost you an arm and a leg either. Otherwise Nokians and Avons are good choices as well.

[Wiscon_Mark]

We have a set of Michelin Pilot Alpines on our Honda Odyssey in the winter....they grip really well....I've seen em on an Outback too. They're great in snow and on ice (as well as any tire can be on ice) and they're a pretty good performance tire too (in warmer weather on dry pavement). The only problem with using them "All Season" is they wear fairly quickly and they're expensive. Get yourself two sets of tires. You could make these your winter ones.

[shortlid]

The Bridestone Potenza RE92 taht came on my Mom's '03 Legacy GT Sedan are JUNK! They are AT the wear bars at 29k, they have been rotated every 7,000 miles keep at correct pressure and my MOM DROVE IT!! They have also developed dry crack inbetween the tread and on the outer egdes of the side wall! :evil:

Does any one have any experence puting the Hankook or Kumho tires that tirerack.com loves so much on a Legacy GT sedan? How are they holding-up. I just want a quiet, soft riding, long wearing tire for my Mom's car. :)

[scottzg]

I've run a couple sets of michelin energy mvp+'s on my car, and i really like them. They're not much of a 'performance' tire, but they break away very smoothly and are easy to drive, so good enough. They're spooky quiet, handle snow just fine, and last a damn long time (10k a set) compared to what tires normally last me (3-4k). They're not really cheap, but i would reccomend them for everyone but the magasine racer or track/autoxer.

[Wiscon_Mark]

10k a set? Holy crap! Scotty, you must use that suspension of yours a lot :twisted:

[Disturbed_beast]

I bought Yokohama Avid Touring for an All season tire they are excellent in the winter time, hold on see for yourself

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... id+Touring (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=Avid+Touring)

[Disturbed_beast]

I bought Yokohama Avid Touring for an All season tire they are excellent in the winter time, hold on see for yourself

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... id+Touring (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=Avid+Touring)

[Disturbed_beast]

I bought Yokohama Avid Touring for an All season tire they are excellent in the winter time, hold on see for yourself

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... id+Touring (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=Avid+Touring)

[Disturbed_beast]

I bought Yokohama Avid Touring for an All season tire they are excellent in the winter time, hold on see for yourself

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... id+Touring (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=Avid+Touring)

[gator gt]

HOLY CRAP Disturbed....a quadruple posting!!!!

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

easy does it with that return key....

GGT


:lol:

[scottzg]

HOLY CRAP Disturbed....a quadruple posting!!!!

I think the moderator can fix that... :wink: :wink: :wink:

[MR.MCSICK]

So far im pleased with my Goodyear Assurance Trippletread. They have a good hydroplane resistance and i hear theyre great in the snow,( ill have to wait to test that.) For an all season tire i think they look sweet. Very aggressive tread design. I would definately NOT recommend Yokohama Avid H4S. Maybe its just me but they have mad sidewall flex and suck, I mean SUCK, in the snow.

[Jonathan]

Nokian WR Winter tyres.

Good traction in snow - almost as good as a true snow tyre, yet good enough on dry pavement that you wont wear them out in 2 years.

True "ALL SEASON" tyres are a compromise to the point where they basically "suck" in all seasons.

[Huffer]

I loved the Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3's on my Impreza. They are expensive here though, most retail around the $147 per wheel price. Yeeowch. But they were awesome for dry/wet (ultra hiperf summer) and I would run them year round in NZ (no snow). They werent very good in gravel or loose dirt. :twisted: I have over 50,000km on them, and I have dead even wear across all four.

I think Kumho's represent the best value for money in summer tyres - their Ecsta 712s are very reasonably priced, and hold grip well. They will probably last most of us at least 2 years of summer driving.

I had an opportunity to test some Falken ZIEX's on an 05 LGT the other week, they are very good in the dry, and great in the wet, no hydroplaning at all. Sidewall flex is noticeable, but it isn't going to roll off the rim. $67 a pop from Discount Tire w/ price matching from Sears? Good deal.

[Aczwild]

I'm running BFGoodrich Traction T/A's and they are sweet. Kinda costly at $110 per, but definitely worth it.

[95LegacySTI]

I have Yokohama Prada Spec-Cs and I love them. I've pushed them pretty hard and have never heard a noise out of them, never lost traction (except in the rain and snow by pulling th e-brake) BTW, these are bad news for snow. They stick really nice in the rain and even better when its dry. The only complaint I would have about them is when you catch a groove in the road it grabs on to you and tries to rip the wheel out of your hands.

[Sarra]

Rain tires actually perform really well in slush or fresh powder. Rain tires with no tread left don't get grip on anything but dry. ;)

Let's do a comparison... My Legacy had brand new Kumho HK11 rain tires on it, and my mom's Outback had brand new studded snow tires on it. My Legacy got much better grip, stopped faster, turned better, and accelerated faster than the Outback.

I'm going to get some studdable snow and ice tires, and another set of summer tires. Summer tires for summer, and winter tires for winter.

[HFSDevil]

I got Nitto Neo-Gens on my car. Absolutely awesome tires. I use them all year. Work in the 3 feet of snow that we get here in Colorado. Also great on the track :D

[shazapple]

Brand new studded tires are the worst. its like youre driving on marbles. It gets better with wear but you still sacrifice everything but ice traction. I have studs which im used to, but Im not sure how non studded tires would handle in icy conditions. I think Id rather sacrifice a bit of everyday traction for emergency traction.

[jey]

Rain tires actually perform really well in slush or fresh powder. Rain tires with no tread left don't get grip on anything but dry. ;)

Let's do a comparison... My Legacy had brand new Kumho HK11 rain tires on it, and my mom's Outback had brand new studded snow tires on it. My Legacy got much better grip, stopped faster, turned better, and accelerated faster than the Outback.


I've noticed the same phenomenon on paper w/ the Tirerack tests. On a 2006 325i, all the snow tires took about 103-108 feet to stop from 50 mph in the dry, and 131-139 feet to drop in wet pavement.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/bs_blizzak_revo1_c.jsp

In comparison, the mushy Grand Touring All-seasons on the same car stopped in 89-97 feet in dry, and 101-114 feet in wet pavement!
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/co_nextgen_grandtour_c.jsp

Snow tires perform awful in anything but snow! I don't know if I want to be on snow tires when I'm on the highway and it's been plowed and it's just wet, and I have to haul the car to a stop suddenly - might be kinda scary!

[bakergtt]

Car and Driver has an article on some tires you guys may want to check out. Just saw it today while reading through but I didnt get a chance to read it yet. Its the issue with the Viper vs. Z06