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cinnamon_girl
03-12-2007, 10:31 PM
Hey all, I've been searching for a new, reliable car and due to riding in Mark's subaru and the amazing control and reliability in winter I definitely have been looking for a subaru of my own and I have finally come across one that, to me, seems like a great deal. It's a listing in Auto Trader magazine and before I call I'd like some opinions: it's a 2000 subaru legacy(sedan) awd, auto, new tires, new batt, remote entry & start, ac, all power, 42,500 mi, (green/gray, yea yea) garaged during winter months since 2002. and...9,000 or best offer. Basically I'm wondering if this is "too good to be true" and if not, what kinds of things I should inquire about if i contact the individual. Thanks much everyone!

Superu264
03-12-2007, 10:43 PM
Wiscon_Mark?? If so I assume he has already given you every piece of Subaru information ever. :wink:

cinnamon_girl
03-12-2007, 10:46 PM
Yep, the one and only, and the subaru is a popular subject for conversation let me tell you...he was pretty excited to take it out yesterday. But concerning the ad, i haven't gotten any word back from him yet which is why I posted, cause he'd get a kick out of it and despite all he's told me, I'm still not very car savvy.

Wiscon_Mark
03-12-2007, 10:52 PM
Hey dear,

I would ask why he garaged it during winter of all seasons :lol:

IBOMGHI2U

(aka yes, this is my girlfriend)

sheepdog
03-12-2007, 11:02 PM
Lol. "dear" gave it away.

Wiscon_Mark
03-12-2007, 11:05 PM
quiet you :grin:

SilentRacer
03-12-2007, 11:07 PM
(aka yes, this is my girlfriend)

Damn....I think I just lost a bet.




NOTE: All people who post stuff about me in general, be aware that I DO moderate this section...
love,
Wiscon_Mark

Wiscon_Mark
03-12-2007, 11:08 PM
And you!!!!


:grin:

cinnamon_girl
03-12-2007, 11:08 PM
HA!

cinnamon_girl
03-12-2007, 11:11 PM
apparantly you were doubted....

SilentRacer
03-12-2007, 11:16 PM
I didn't say the bet was related to you :smt019

Wiscon_Mark
03-12-2007, 11:17 PM
I didn't say the bet was related to you :smt019

Just posting random crap, huh?

cinnamon_girl
03-12-2007, 11:17 PM
I didn't say the bet was related to you :smt019

very true

ivwarrior
03-13-2007, 12:08 AM
Mark has a girlfriend?

shazapple
03-13-2007, 12:22 AM
So much for this post! :lol:


Im sure you've already heard about the headgasket issues. Hopefully the coolant addative recall has been done. It seems to be working for my moms 2000 outback

Wiscon_Mark
03-13-2007, 12:36 AM
Mark has a girlfriend?

As of April 22nd, we'll have been "seeing each other" for 2 years.

I forgot about that coolant conditioner. I'll keep that in mind.

sheepdog
03-13-2007, 01:15 AM
ok... now that we're done with the probe of Mark's personal life.... haha

Perdue
03-13-2007, 09:51 AM
Hey all, I've been searching for a new, reliable car and due to riding in Mark's subaru and the amazing control and reliability in winter I definitely have been looking for a subaru of my own and I have finally come across one that, to me, seems like a great deal. It's a listing in Auto Trader magazine and before I call I'd like some opinions: it's a 2000 subaru legacy(sedan) awd, auto, new tires, new batt, remote entry & start, ac, all power, 42,500 mi, (green/gray, yea yea) garaged during winter months since 2002. and...9,000 or best offer. Basically I'm wondering if this is "too good to be true" and if not, what kinds of things I should inquire about if i contact the individual. Thanks much everyone!
OMGHI2U!!1! Just to appease Mark :lol:

As far as the car, 9k seems somewhat low for price, but they may just want to move the car. I'd do a carfax and try to see if it's been in any accidents. Depending on how Wisconsin does things, it may say rebuilt, recontructed, or salvage on the title and registration if it has been and the state knows about it. If the car is in fact clean, good running, and everything is in check, I'd make an offer.

Huffer
03-13-2007, 10:32 AM
Offer $8k for it. That's low mileage for a 6 year old car.

42k over 6 years = 7000 a year?!?

d1giPhux
03-13-2007, 11:09 AM
^ +1 .. id definitely work on the 'or best offer'. Offer him $7500.. that will allow him space to move up if you are shooting for $8k.

Also, check out carfax for sure, and do a little research on the seller if you can, as well as maybe try to get some information out of subaru if you can obtain the VIN #. While im not sure if they will give it to you, just use a little bit of reverse engineering / human manipulation! I did it.. and got good results! :grin:

You can also find things to convince the seller to lower the car price.. any rust / body damage. Condition of struts / tires. Interior condition / cleanliness. Look for things that 'need to be fixed' then tell him, and make an offer. I would shoot for a lower offer then what he is asking, in order to give him headroom to 'increase the price.' Also, if you mention CASH, he is more likely to accept the offer.

By the way, good luck on the purchase! Hope you enjoy your new car, no matter what you get!

Huffer
03-13-2007, 11:24 AM
Also, check out carfax for sure, and do a little research on the seller if you can, as well as maybe try to get some information out of subaru if you can obtain the VIN #. While im not sure if they will give it to you, just use a little bit of reverse engineering / human manipulation! I did it.. and got good results! :grin:


You can just email SOA - they will give you any factory service records or tell you if any recalls are open on the VIN.

shazapple
03-13-2007, 12:24 PM
Also, check out carfax for sure, and do a little research on the seller if you can, as well as maybe try to get some information out of subaru if you can obtain the VIN #. While im not sure if they will give it to you, just use a little bit of reverse engineering / human manipulation! I did it.. and got good results! :grin:


You can just email SOA - they will give you any factory service records or tell you if any recalls are open on the VIN.

Really? My local dealer won't tell me shit cause the car isn't registered in my name :roll:

Wiscon_Mark
03-13-2007, 12:44 PM
That's retarded to say the least. Unless you stole it (:lol:) they really don't have any reason not to treat you like you were the only owner of the car, ever.

Huffer
03-13-2007, 01:09 PM
Really? My local dealer won't tell me shit cause the car isn't registered in my name :roll:

Yep, I've done it a bunch of times. I just email using the links off mysubaru.com

John Mergen is usually the guy that replies. He's real nice about stuff, even sent me (via mail) remote reprogramming instructions.

d1giPhux
03-13-2007, 01:14 PM
Yup.. they wont give out any information about the car registered under a VIN # here as well, unless you can PROVE you have the registration to the vehicle.. which is not possible until you buy the car and bring it into the shop. I had to manipulate them into telling me information.. hence the tip. :wink:

Huffer
03-13-2007, 01:16 PM
Manipulation-schmation.

I simply said I was interested in buying the vehicle, and wanted to know if there was anything SOA had on its records. :lol:

d1giPhux
03-13-2007, 01:19 PM
Manipulation-schmation.

I simply said I was interested in buying the vehicle, and wanted to know if there was anything SOA had on its records. :lol:

Me as well, and they promptly, and sort of rudely told me they could not help me with anything if i was not the owner of the car. This was a local subaru dealership though, and most subaru dealerships i have been to, as usual, are full of ass holes. I have yet to meet a good subaru dealership in this area.. or when i lived in orlando, FL either. This is why i would not rely on this tactic to work at most dealerships.. and you might want to just email them instead.. sounds much easier.

Huffer
03-13-2007, 01:20 PM
Manipulation-schmation.

I simply said I was interested in buying the vehicle, and wanted to know if there was anything SOA had on its records. :lol:

Me as well, and they promptly, and sort of rudely told me they could not help me with anything if i was not the owner of the car. This was a local subaru dealership though, and most subaru dealerships i have been to, as usual, are full of ass holes. I have yet to meet a good subaru dealership in this area.. or when i lived in orlando, FL either. This is why i would not rely on this tactic to work at most dealerships.. and you might want to just email them instead.. sounds much easier.

You're not reading my posts are you?
I don't contact the dealership - I contact SOA. Subaru Of America.

d1giPhux
03-13-2007, 01:25 PM
Manipulation-schmation.

I simply said I was interested in buying the vehicle, and wanted to know if there was anything SOA had on its records. :lol:

Me as well, and they promptly, and sort of rudely told me they could not help me with anything if i was not the owner of the car. This was a local subaru dealership though, and most subaru dealerships i have been to, as usual, are full of ass holes. I have yet to meet a good subaru dealership in this area.. or when i lived in orlando, FL either. This is why i would not rely on this tactic to work at most dealerships.. and you might want to just email them instead.. sounds much easier.

You're not reading my posts are you?
I don't contact the dealership - I contact SOA. Subaru Of America.

Yes.. i read your post.. i gave the tip as advice to getting a stealership to give you the information, SOA might be a different story all together. Although i would rather not deal with them either.. as i hear most of them are jerk offs! :wink: :lol:

Huffer
03-13-2007, 02:07 PM
You never mentioned anything about dealerships. You just said subaru. :wink: :|

d1giPhux
03-13-2007, 02:28 PM
Just for the sake of argument.. i did. i said 'SHOP' as well as 'DEALERSHIP'... so there! :glasses5:

Reason
03-13-2007, 09:05 PM
(aka yes, this is my girlfriend)

Damn....I think I just lost a bet.




NOTE: All people who post stuff about me in general, be aware that I DO moderate this section...
love,
Wiscon_Mark

Mark are you trying to steal my thunder??

Welcome Mark's girlfriend. :smile:

cinnamon_girl
03-13-2007, 09:31 PM
Wow, what a response I've generated, LOL. Thanks everyone, I'll definitely look into all that, I really hope it works out because I've already got a place for the car i'm currently driving in. Basically now it's just waiting until we can actually get to Neenah and check her out in person. Once again, definitely appreciate all the advice. :)

Wiscon_Mark
03-13-2007, 10:40 PM
That car she currently drives in is awful...

Reason
03-13-2007, 10:46 PM
Wow, what a response I've generated, LOL. Thanks everyone, I'll definitely look into all that, I really hope it works out because I've already got a place for the car i'm currently driving in. Basically now it's just waiting until we can actually get to Neenah and check her out in person. Once again, definitely appreciate all the advice. :)

Dude's are macking on Mark's chic lol

All post by females get special attention here....I wonder why?????

Wiscon_Mark
03-13-2007, 10:47 PM
Because this site is comprised of mostly guys? It's like that everywhere. Ever been to an engineering school? :lol:

Reason
03-13-2007, 10:50 PM
Because this site is comprised of mostly guys? It's like that everywhere. Ever been to an engineering school? :lol:

Yea New England Tech was like that. Mostly guys there, but when the nursing program is in session it was GREAT

cinnamon_girl
03-13-2007, 10:53 PM
well girls are certainly no better, goodness, put a guy among even a small group of girls and they're nuts.

Perdue
03-13-2007, 11:25 PM
All girls go nuts over my sexy body...I'm too sexy for my shirt, too sexy for my shirt, so sexay ye...sorry.

Wiscon_Mark
03-14-2007, 12:00 AM
All girls go nuts over my sexy body...I'm too sexy for my shirt, too sexy for my shirt, so sexay ye...sorry.

Can we ban him?

(It's a terrible song too)

Huffer
03-14-2007, 12:52 AM
temporary ban FTW.

He's too nice of a guy to ban forever.

Does Marks girl have a name, or do I just call her "Sugar" because it goes well with cinnamon?

Sarra
03-14-2007, 02:27 AM
All girls go nuts over my sexy body...I'm too sexy for my shirt, too sexy for my shirt, so sexay ye...sorry.

Can we ban him?

(It's a terrible song too)

I read that as "Can we brain him?" I think that would be ideal, though not legal.

My Ex drove a really crappy car, but wouldn't listen to reason. :(

Wiscon_Mark
03-14-2007, 09:56 AM
Does Marks girl have a name, or do I just call her "Sugar" because it goes well with cinnamon?

No, I just call her "dear" :lol:

Her name is KC (pronounced like the name Casey).

cinnamon_girl
03-14-2007, 08:42 PM
Does Marks girl have a name, or do I just call her "Sugar" because it goes well with cinnamon?

No, I just call her "dear" :lol:

Her name is KC (pronounced like the name Casey).

i dunno...i could get used to the "sugar" thing ;) btw, saw a gorgeous black WRX at work today....me, timmy, and ryan had to take a few moments to stare :)

cinnamon_girl
03-18-2007, 04:52 PM
I'm sad, it was already sold :( guess i need to keep looking

d1giPhux
03-18-2007, 05:15 PM
What price range are you looking in?

cinnamon_girl
03-18-2007, 05:26 PM
depending on mileage I can probably go as high as 9000 because the loan has to be out in my mom's name if i get it anytime soon

d1giPhux
03-18-2007, 05:48 PM
depending on mileage I can probably go as high as 9000 because the loan has to be out in my mom's name if i get it anytime soon

Theres someone here on the boards selling a pretty sweet one. Maybe he'd hook u up with a deal. Make mark drive out here and get it! Hahaha. But yea.. wow. $9k.. shit, u could get a wrx for that much.

Wiscon_Mark
03-19-2007, 07:06 PM
shit, u could get a wrx for that much.

While that would be totally cool, she won't find a WRX for that price in this area, and it's not the car she's looking for. Plus she doesn't want a manual.

Not my influence of course :lol:

We'll keep looking. There's so many damn Subarus in the Point area and I can't find very many for sale :mad:

cinnamon_girl
03-19-2007, 09:49 PM
Hey now, i'd be a lot more open to a manual if i actually knew how to drive one!....maybe once you get your car back, we'll actually be able to get a couple more lessons in within a realistic time frame rather than weeks apart for 5 minutes. ugh, i can't wait for the subaru to be home again :)

StatGSR
03-19-2007, 10:03 PM
she won't find a WRX for that price in this area, and it's not the car she's looking for. Plus she doesn't want a manual.


they do make auto WRXs ya know.....

cinnamon_girl
03-19-2007, 10:06 PM
As awesome as that would be, I really just need something reliable for traveling back and forth to school. I don't want something too showy because I don't want to worry about having it parked and stuff, maybe in a few years.

StatGSR
03-19-2007, 10:12 PM
^ i hear ya, nothing wrong with that.

Wiscon_Mark
03-19-2007, 10:18 PM
she won't find a WRX for that price in this area, and it's not the car she's looking for. Plus she doesn't want a manual.


they do make auto WRXs ya know.....

For sure, but they're not very common.

cinnamon_girl
03-19-2007, 10:23 PM
goodness, now i'm hooked on this site too....i'm becoming quite unproductive...oh well, car shopping is much more satisfying than english

d1giPhux
03-19-2007, 11:04 PM
haha, oh man, mark is like 'SHE DOES NOT WANT THIS'.. maybe mark and the girl are one and the same.. hes just trying to make us think hes got a girl! Come on mark.. we know the truth! :lol:

haha, just messing with you.

Damn, for the budget you are looking for tho, one the guys on the forums here has a nice car! =]

Oh yea, i taught myself how to drive manual.. so at least you have someone to give you those 5 mins to teach you stuff..!

StatGSR
03-19-2007, 11:30 PM
^ the one thing hes got going for him is that he met the girl pre car forum. my last gf i met through a car forum and local meets.... it was a great for a few months, but man, it became bad news after that haha.

cinnamon_girl
03-19-2007, 11:34 PM
^ the one thing hes got going for him is that he met the girl pre car forum. my last gf i met through a car forum and local meets.... it was a great for a few months, but man, it became bad news after that haha.

bad news? how so?

StatGSR
03-19-2007, 11:36 PM
actually it mostly came down to long distance relationship, and little things like me trying to give her car advise or trying to help her with random car stuff, that usually led to me getting bitched out....

cinnamon_girl
03-19-2007, 11:40 PM
ah..yea, as much as I hate that i'm really not very car knowledgeable, I guess it helps because i'm always more than happy to listen to his car ramblings and attempts to teach me everything there is to know, i'm good on the basics, but yea... I'm lucky he's patient and trusting enough to teach me manual driving with the subaru, and i'm doin the best i can not to screw it up.
***and i like to think i don't really get bitchy :D***

Wiscon_Mark
03-20-2007, 08:12 AM
***and i like to think i don't really get bitchy :D***

You're not.

Yeah, KC is definitely not the same person as me. I could post a photo of us if you really want.

d1giPhux
03-20-2007, 10:19 AM
*see's mark busting out the photoshop right now*

haha, im just messing with you! lol. :lol:

This is what happens when you get bored at work!

cinnamon_girl
03-20-2007, 09:37 PM
HA, when i get bored at work I clean....

d1giPhux
03-20-2007, 09:46 PM
HA, when i get bored at work I clean....

I work with computers.. so, when i get bored.. i either take things apart, or post on the forums! haha. I saw this guy today near here with a orange subaru wagon with some rims on it.. was thinking about leaving a little note of paper that says 'www.sl-i.net/FORUMS/ on it for him!

cinnamon_girl
03-20-2007, 10:09 PM
an orange one?! that's awesome, not gonna lie, that'd be pretty sweet. Grr...i want a Subaru too. But I guess now we're looking more at toyotas and hondas for better gas mileage. not bad by any means, but it's just not the same :(

d1giPhux
03-20-2007, 10:12 PM
an orange one?! that's awesome, not gonna lie, that'd be pretty sweet. Grr...i want a Subaru too. But I guess now we're looking more at toyotas and hondas for better gas mileage. not bad by any means, but it's just not the same :(


Get a CRX =] they are awesome! other than that.. hmm, subarus got a bit more creature comforts.

cinnamon_girl
03-20-2007, 11:10 PM
completely agreed. I've got the Forester growing on me now; go figure, completely out of my price range of course. Who falls in love with something they can actually afford?

StatGSR
03-20-2007, 11:46 PM
^ kia owners???? haha

Wiscon_Mark
03-20-2007, 11:51 PM
:lol:

d1giPhux
03-21-2007, 08:32 AM
Forester now huh!?! Wow.. ur all over the place with this car buying business... sounds like ur gonna rush into something. I'd just take a step back and find what you REALLY like.. and then start looking. I see LGT's for sale here everywhere.. and i live in the middle of nowhere. Also, check online forums, and other places! You will find a good deal, and probably something for less then what you are going to pay if you just rush into buying a car.. but hey.. its your money after all.. haha, do what u want. Just trying to save u a few $$ (few meaning thousand).

If you are willing to travel at all (come on.. its fun!) .. then you are going to save some big $ as well.

Superu264
03-21-2007, 09:31 AM
I see LGT's for sale here everywhere.. and i live in the middle of nowhere.

Don't you live in New England? People here defend their Subaru's with their lives I assumed it would be worse up there.

d1giPhux
03-21-2007, 09:56 AM
I see LGT's for sale here everywhere.. and i live in the middle of nowhere.

Don't you live in New England? People here defend their Subaru's with their lives I assumed it would be worse up there.

There are tons of subaru's here for sale.. always. Anywhere from junk, to brand new.. mostly outbacks and stuff though.. and lots of wagons. And yea, im located in the north east.. bout 7 hours north of you or a little more.

Wiscon_Mark
03-21-2007, 01:05 PM
How is looking at Foresters and Legacys being all over the place?

d1giPhux
03-21-2007, 01:16 PM
How is looking at Foresters and Legacys being all over the place?

legacy's, foresters, hondas, and toyotas.. not really 'all over the place'.. but i know the feeling of trying to just find a car quick. I was just suggesting find what you REALLY want, and then try to do a more exclusive search just for one of those cars... is all i was saying. Basically dont rush into a car, just because you want to buy one.. cars are big investments. I felt the sameeeee way when i was looking for a legacy again.. i started thinking 'hmm, maybe i would like an impreza'.. but now i look back and say THANK GOD i never purchased one.

Wiscon_Mark
03-21-2007, 01:19 PM
Honestly, the used car market around here is flooded with domestic cars with lots of miles and tons of rust - finding a decently priced Japanese car with reasonable miles is not easy, so you have to look around. Nobody said she was buying it this instant, and I've been talking her into a better car for the last year and a half.

The good thing is, she's got a buyer for her car (her mom wants the car to go to her little brother). I wouldn't buy a used car without an inspection and a test drive anyways.

d1giPhux
03-21-2007, 02:19 PM
Honestly, the used car market around here is flooded with domestic cars with lots of miles and tons of rust - finding a decently priced Japanese car with reasonable miles is not easy, so you have to look around. Nobody said she was buying it this instant, and I've been talking her into a better car for the last year and a half.

The good thing is, she's got a buyer for her car (her mom wants the car to go to her little brother). I wouldn't buy a used car without an inspection and a test drive anyways.

I bought a car without inspection, or test drive.. flew out to chicago to pick it up.. and it works great. I just did a lot of research about the car / buyer before making any plans to even check it out. If buying long distance.. just ask tons of questions. If they are lying, you will catch them up in their lies eventually.. and when you see it, if its crap.. well, you can always go home. Luckily, the car i bought was in great mechanical, and bodily condition.. so i was happy! :grin:

Wiscon_Mark
03-21-2007, 02:21 PM
Keep in mind that she's is in HS, is going to college, and cannot afford to get screwed. You have to be a bit more cautious, people can and will pull that kind of shit.

Kraziken
03-21-2007, 03:05 PM
How about a 95 or so Camry.

Parts are cheap. You can go to any wrecking yard and pull parts.

The 4 banger version is pretty cheap on the gas too.

My in-laws, were in a bit of a financial bind. I bought them a 96 camry for 2k. Sucker runs great. I got a deal on it because of the amateur body repair, but the interior and the guts were in great condition when I had it checked out.

If you really wanted that AWD, some of the older camry's, tercels also came in AWD. Besides the rust issues, I loved my All-trac Camry. :grin:

There appears to be an abundance of the All-trac's on the East coast too. When I couldn't find one around here, I bought my All-trac from New York.

Wiscon_Mark
03-21-2007, 03:15 PM
Not many All tracs around here...like Subarus, AWD in general took a long time to take off around here.

But I will definitely look.

A FWD car with good snow tires would be just fine for her anyways - her current car is FWD with awful tires and a V6...it's not the best in snow. I think a 4 banger camry or accord would work well.

d1giPhux
03-21-2007, 04:02 PM
Not many All tracs around here...like Subarus, AWD in general took a long time to take off around here.

But I will definitely look.

A FWD car with good snow tires would be just fine for her anyways - her current car is FWD with awful tires and a V6...it's not the best in snow. I think a 4 banger camry or accord would work well.

helllllllll no on the accord..those things SUCK! You'd be better off getting a civic, or the camry...or hell, even a hyundai or nissan. Most of toyotas cars are pretty sweet.. also, civic hatch, or sedan, nissan has some good cars too, and you can find them for cheap.. but yea, i hate the accords, i think they are junk. Especially any between 94-97.. JUNK! CRX = awesome car. Too bad its super hard to find any in decent condition, or not all riced out.

Wiscon_Mark
03-21-2007, 09:24 PM
Explain to me how the Accord is junk. I know several people that are very satisfied with them. I know you've spouted your prejudices before, but my girlfriend isn't looking for a high performance monster, just a competent, reliable car that gets decent mileage.

Huffer
03-22-2007, 08:59 AM
I rocked an 84 Accord for a long time. That thing was a tank - but it sipped the juice. Maintenance was a doddle too.

StatGSR
03-22-2007, 10:15 AM
dude, i just checked for subys on auto trader near stevens point, there is a ton of cars! so i dont know what this, "there isnt anything around here" nonsense is about cause, it looks like a pretty huge selection in your area.

d1giPhux
03-22-2007, 11:02 AM
I just hate the 94-97 accord.. another before 94 was a good accord.. and im not so sure about the new ones.. except they are fat, and i think they are ugly. :lol:

I just dont like them, because the one i had.. did NOT have 'honda reliability' written all over it like the other nice honda cars i owned.

Huffer
03-22-2007, 11:18 AM
There's a lemon in every batch dude.

Superu264
03-22-2007, 12:05 PM
dude, i just checked for subys on auto trader near stevens point, there is a ton of cars! so i dont know what this, "there isnt anything around here" nonsense is about cause, it looks like a pretty huge selection in your area.

I only found 4 within 50 miles of Steven Point. (Legacys, that is.)

d1giPhux
03-22-2007, 12:07 PM
There's a lemon in every batch dude.

Yup, a big fat, overweight, underpowered, ugly ass lemon. This is true. Well how bout you trade your car for an accord then.. you might enjoy it more then the suby! :wink:

Huffer
03-22-2007, 12:19 PM
Sure, you give me a new 07 Accord, you can have my Suby.

Or, I'll do you a deal. Acura TSX for my sub. Bargain!

d1giPhux
03-22-2007, 12:48 PM
Sure, you give me a new 07 Accord, you can have my Suby.

Or, I'll do you a deal. Acura TSX for my sub. Bargain!


The TSX i'll be keeping for myself.. you can have the 07 accord *barf*. :lol:

StatGSR
03-22-2007, 01:40 PM
I only found 4 within 50 miles of Steven Point. (Legacys, that is.)

well yea cause 50 miles is nothing... try 100 and 200, which are still more than reasonable distances imo.

Wiscon_Mark
03-22-2007, 02:54 PM
The TSX IS an Accord, dude.

I'm being a little picky about the Subarus I look at - there is a price range, and I'd like to stay away from the 96-99 EJ25.

d1giPhux
03-22-2007, 03:22 PM
The TSX IS an Accord, dude.

I'm being a little picky about the Subarus I look at - there is a price range, and I'd like to stay away from the 96-99 EJ25.

Yes, but if its a decision between shit or shit.. i want the acura! haha.

Wiscon_Mark
03-22-2007, 03:24 PM
Neither are...seriously man, a Honda is a Honda, unless it's the Honda passport...

d1giPhux
03-22-2007, 03:28 PM
Neither are...seriously man, a Honda is a Honda, unless it's the Honda passport...

This is true.. id just rather get a civic hatch then an accord. I mean, if someone was going to give me one.. hell, id take anything. I think if i was going to buy a new honda, id get the civic hatch si.. oooh hellsss yea! Too bad they stopped the crx line.. or you'd see me at the bank right now getting a loan out!

Wiscon_Mark
03-22-2007, 03:31 PM
Hey, I love the CRX too, but it's impossible to find one around here without rust all over it.

d1giPhux
03-22-2007, 04:02 PM
Hey, I love the CRX too, but it's impossible to find one around here without rust all over it.

Yea, its pretty much impossible to find a decent clean looking one anywhere. Thats why when someone has a really nice one, with NOTHING wrong with it.. sells for like $9k! I wish i would have kept mine.. it was super nice.. back when it wasnt such a big deal to have a nice one, i sold it for only like $3500.. damn, stupid move! haha. Only place to get nice ones for decent prices is cali.. and that would be quite the drive back, unless you wanted to pay the $1200 for shipping! Maybe when i get more $ i will get one and completely fix it up..those cars rock. Plus.. get they get like 35mpg+ easy.

Reason
03-22-2007, 04:06 PM
9k? dude unless it has a perfect body turbo swap and some other mods thats ridiculous. It's like this dealership asking 16K for the SVX, never going to sell it.

d1giPhux
03-22-2007, 05:01 PM
9k? dude unless it has a perfect body turbo swap and some other mods thats ridiculous. It's like this dealership asking 16K for the SVX, never going to sell it.

Yea, i know thats insane.. but thats what a perfect body stock crx gets on ebay.. its fucking CRAZY. You can however get some decent crx's with mods and stuff for like $5-6k.. but still, thats a lot for a car they stopped making in 91. When i say 9k.. thats for a car with EVERYTHING in perfect condition, and like 30k stock. Basically a collectors car. Hell, if i was rich, id buy one just to keep!

dodik
03-22-2007, 08:52 PM
well ill be damned but this is the longest advice for a newb i ahve ever read!! :shock:

SilentRacer
03-23-2007, 07:32 AM
I'd have to say go with toyota, there are many many to choose from used and they are pretty good vehicles.

Reason
03-23-2007, 07:38 AM
If you want a crx theres one for $500 selling over here. Another with an integra front end conversion. It needs a hood tho and I seen a clean 87 CRX for cheap.

d1giPhux
03-23-2007, 08:14 AM
If you want a crx theres one for $500 selling over here. Another with an integra front end conversion. It needs a hood tho and I seen a clean 87 CRX for cheap.

Werd.. yea, im just looking for one thats not TOO beat. I did see the one with the integra front end.. but GOD DAMN thats ugly! Haha.. id have to replace that whole front end just for it to look good again! LOL. I'm specifically looking for a 91 Si if possible... they seem pretty hard to find in good condition, without honda cancer of course.

cinnamon_girl
03-23-2007, 08:45 PM
well ill be damned but this is the longest advice for a newb i ahve ever read!! :shock:

yea, i'm quite proud of myself :)

d1giPhux
03-23-2007, 09:29 PM
well ill be damned but this is the longest advice for a newb i ahve ever read!! :shock:

yea, i'm quite proud of myself :)

Well at least you know SL-i folks will always give you the proper leg humping! :lol:

Reason
03-23-2007, 09:44 PM
well ill be damned but this is the longest advice for a newb i ahve ever read!! :shock:

yea, i'm quite proud of myself :)

Well at least you know SL-i folks will always give you the proper leg humping! :lol:

Says the guy with the most replys in this thread lol

scottzg
03-23-2007, 09:55 PM
omgz a girl in a car forum omgftwwootbbq!

canihaveyournumberyou'rethecoolestgirleverdoyouhaveaboyfriendcanibeyourboyfriendwecangooutandtalkaboutsubarusandicanparadeyouaroundsubarumeetsandalltheguyswillbesojealoussowe'llgohomewherewecandiscussmodzandbestpaintwheelcombosandrace22bsonxboxandafterwecanmakeoutandtheandthen*gaaaaasp*faint.


excuse me. Do you have a boyfriend?

d1giPhux
03-23-2007, 10:13 PM
well ill be damned but this is the longest advice for a newb i ahve ever read!! :shock:

yea, i'm quite proud of myself :)

Well at least you know SL-i folks will always give you the proper leg humping! :lol:

Says the guy with the most replys in this thread lol

Hey.. you know how it is.. i gots to come proper! :lol: I think i have a ton of replies in every thread.. and most of them dont mean shit! LOL I just love confusing myself!

Reason
03-23-2007, 10:38 PM
u are a post whore :smile:

d1giPhux
03-23-2007, 10:48 PM
u are a post whore :smile:

In other words.. extremely fucking bored! LOL. :roll:

cinnamon_girl
03-23-2007, 11:12 PM
omgz a girl in a car forum omgftwwootbbq!

canihaveyournumberyou'rethecoolestgirleverdoyouhaveaboyfriendcanibeyourboyfriendwecangooutandtalkaboutsubarusandicanparadeyouaroundsubarumeetsandalltheguyswillbesojealoussowe'llgohomewherewecandiscussmodzandbestpaintwheelcombosandrace22bsonxboxandafterwecanmakeoutandtheandthen*gaaaaasp*faint.


excuse me. Do you have a boyfriend?

i don't even know what to think about this, lol

cinnamon_girl
03-23-2007, 11:18 PM
I'd have to say go with toyota, there are many many to choose from used and they are pretty good vehicles.

I definitely agree with you here, i haven't had a whole lot of luck on the subaru search (and for the record I am by no means "jumping into things" or the type to just buy the 1st thing that looks good-there are a lot of things i have to consider, location, being a major issue. It's awesome that y'all can travel extreme distances for your car, but a mother, and co-signer for a loan that isn't digging that) anyways, back to the point, i've found a lot more good toyotas near me that I may check out.

Oh, and i really have appreciated all the good advice from everyone :smile:

Wiscon_Mark
03-23-2007, 11:57 PM
excuse me. Do you have a boyfriend?

You rang?

d1giPhux
03-24-2007, 12:18 AM
excuse me. Do you have a boyfriend?

You rang?


BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA. :lol:

Grant me 3 wishes!

Huffer
03-24-2007, 12:40 AM
"Sugar" - don't go on a co-signed loan.

Try to trade whatever car you have, up, into a cash+trade situation to get out of a loan deal. Loans are the worst, especially if someone else is literally banking on you to help make payments.

Cosigning sounds like a good deal, but if you end up forfeiting (for whatever reason) on the car/loan, it trashes both credit records. That's a 7 year black mark, and these days it might even prevent you entering some schools. That's right, schools are doing credit checks on students AND parents now.

scottzg
03-24-2007, 02:18 AM
excuse me. Do you have a boyfriend?

You rang?

hahaha obviously i didnt read the thread. I'll rephrase the question:

Do you want a NEW boyfriend?

d1giPhux
03-24-2007, 10:09 AM
"Sugar" - don't go on a co-signed loan.

Try to trade whatever car you have, up, into a cash+trade situation to get out of a loan deal. Loans are the worst, especially if someone else is literally banking on you to help make payments.

Cosigning sounds like a good deal, but if you end up forfeiting (for whatever reason) on the car/loan, it trashes both credit records. That's a 7 year black mark, and these days it might even prevent you entering some schools. That's right, schools are doing credit checks on students AND parents now.

This man is abso-fucking-lutely correct. Loans suck in general as well.. trust me, i know. With 50k in school loans, i dont think life will ever be the same. Dont get a loan.. a piece of crap junk car that you OWN beats a loan car any day. It will save you from the stress.. trust me.. you dont need it that bad.

Wiscon_Mark
03-24-2007, 09:42 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't having your car payed off lower your insurance?

KC doesn't really have the time to work her way up to paying cash for the whole thing, this is kind of her investment for college, consider it a replacement for living in the dorms (she's thinking of commuting, and this is what spurred her new car search) which would drive her into debt much faster than a car. She goes into college this fall.

It's not like she can't make a hefty downpayment (with money saved up as well as the money she'll get for her car) and minimize the debt, but having a good car and living at home is a better debt option than taking out more than one loan just to pay for college + dorms. The dorms here are as expensive (if not a little more) than the tuition, it's ridiculous. Stafford Loans have their limits, and even with the expanded loans next year, they won't pay for everything - she's likely have to take out an additional loan to pay for living, one that may or may not need to be payed immediately.

When you're going into college, unless mommy and daddy are paying for everything, there is going to be debt. There's really no way around it.

cinnamon_girl
03-24-2007, 09:56 PM
yea, it's kind of ridiculus how the only way to become a successful, useful member of society I need to have a thorough education. However, in order to get the high paying job, i have to be buried under thousands of dollars on loans. and we just got our financial aid stuff from school...yea, mom's not thrilled. I'd better get some of the scholarships i've sent in!!! I'll be super pissed considering the hours i spent on them.

But yea, hopefully I'll find a way around the dorm thing....

Reason
03-24-2007, 10:30 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't having your car payed off lower your insurance?

Nope, but you have the option to drop full coverage. But if you have a newer car it's kind of a bad idea. Look at what happened to me, I was assed out.

Wiscon_Mark
03-24-2007, 10:34 PM
Yeah, you were.

d1giPhux
03-25-2007, 01:23 AM
yea, it's kind of ridiculus how the only way to become a successful, useful member of society I need to have a thorough education. However, in order to get the high paying job, i have to be buried under thousands of dollars on loans. and we just got our financial aid stuff from school...yea, mom's not thrilled. I'd better get some of the scholarships i've sent in!!! I'll be super pissed considering the hours i spent on them.

But yea, hopefully I'll find a way around the dorm thing....


Thats the lie they would like you to believe.

Wiscon_Mark
03-25-2007, 10:52 AM
Thats the lie they would like you to believe.

Well, you could get lucky and inherit mom & dad's small business, or just their money, but other than that, you're really not going to make a living wage with just a high school diploma unless you go into a factory job, which is not a very secure position these days.

d1giPhux
03-25-2007, 11:13 AM
Thats the lie they would like you to believe.

Well, you could get lucky and inherit mom & dad's small business, or just their money, but other than that, you're really not going to make a living wage with just a high school diploma unless you go into a factory job, which is not a very secure position these days.

I wish i had anything to inherit.. the only thing i'll ever inherit will be bills. :lol: And thats not true.. most people who eventually get rich, its because they spent their time researching and executing a business plan, rather than wasting 4 yeats at college getting a degree. You see.. no one cares that you have a degree once you have one..so basically you are back at square one with no fry-cook experience to even help you. SURE you may get a decent job.. but you usually need to know someone to get you in, or have a lot of experience to show what you are doing... its really a catch 22 if you ask me. While college was cool and everything, i sometimes think my degree is a $50,000 piece of toilet paper. I could have been making money in so many other ways then just spending it on an 'edumacation' that i didnt even need. Look at most of the worlds richest people.. they didnt even finish going to college. I think by not going to college it really allows you more time to figure out WHAT you enjoy, and WHAT you are good at.. rather than just being chewed up in the system and spit out back at square one. A college degree is only useful in some situations to get in the door. So if you like serving coffee while having 50k + in loans.. by all means, go for it. I'm going to paying this off for the rest of my life.. so, in the end, i give college a negative review. Maybe some day this piece of paper will mean something to someone.

Wiscon_Mark
03-25-2007, 11:18 AM
I think you'll find that a VAST majority of the rich and sucessful you referred to have at least a 2 year business degree, if not a lot more.

Hell, even Georgie W has a degree, and his businesses never did all that well.

d1giPhux
03-25-2007, 11:38 AM
I think you'll find that a VAST majority of the rich and sucessful you referred to have at least a 2 year business degree, if not a lot more.

Hell, even Georgie W has a degree, and his businesses never did all that well.

I look at business degrees like 'liberal arts' degrees. Most people just choose that, because they DONT know what to do. While some people do have business degrees and are successful, i think that there are a lot more people without degrees at all who are very successful as well. Hell, i know i could have taken the 50k i spent on school, and probably made a lot more money opening a business then where im at now.. which is broke. :lol:

And yes.. GWB is a business failure.. his best business yet is the war!

scottzg
03-25-2007, 12:53 PM
I wish i had anything to inherit.. the only thing i'll ever inherit will be bills. :lol: And thats not true.. most people who eventually get rich, its because they spent their time researching and executing a business plan, rather than wasting 4 yeats at college getting a degree. You see.. no one cares that you have a degree once you have one..so basically you are back at square one with no fry-cook experience to even help you. SURE you may get a decent job.. but you usually need to know someone to get you in, or have a lot of experience to show what you are doing... its really a catch 22 if you ask me. While college was cool and everything, i sometimes think my degree is a $50,000 piece of toilet paper. I could have been making money in so many other ways then just spending it on an 'edumacation' that i didnt even need. Look at most of the worlds richest people.. they didnt even finish going to college. I think by not going to college it really allows you more time to figure out WHAT you enjoy, and WHAT you are good at.. rather than just being chewed up in the system and spit out back at square one. A college degree is only useful in some situations to get in the door. So if you like serving coffee while having 50k + in loans.. by all means, go for it. I'm going to paying this off for the rest of my life.. so, in the end, i give college a negative review. Maybe some day this piece of paper will mean something to someone.

if i had finished my degree before going out and working in my preferred field id have a 60k/yr kick ass job right now- i was offered the position, and it was then rescinded when they found i didnt have a degree... I'm back in school

you have to go out and chase something once you have the degree, but you need the degree to be in the running.

d1giPhux
03-25-2007, 02:02 PM
I wish i had anything to inherit.. the only thing i'll ever inherit will be bills. :lol: And thats not true.. most people who eventually get rich, its because they spent their time researching and executing a business plan, rather than wasting 4 yeats at college getting a degree. You see.. no one cares that you have a degree once you have one..so basically you are back at square one with no fry-cook experience to even help you. SURE you may get a decent job.. but you usually need to know someone to get you in, or have a lot of experience to show what you are doing... its really a catch 22 if you ask me. While college was cool and everything, i sometimes think my degree is a $50,000 piece of toilet paper. I could have been making money in so many other ways then just spending it on an 'edumacation' that i didnt even need. Look at most of the worlds richest people.. they didnt even finish going to college. I think by not going to college it really allows you more time to figure out WHAT you enjoy, and WHAT you are good at.. rather than just being chewed up in the system and spit out back at square one. A college degree is only useful in some situations to get in the door. So if you like serving coffee while having 50k + in loans.. by all means, go for it. I'm going to paying this off for the rest of my life.. so, in the end, i give college a negative review. Maybe some day this piece of paper will mean something to someone.

if i had finished my degree before going out and working in my preferred field id have a 60k/yr kick ass job right now- i was offered the position, and it was then rescinded when they found i didnt have a degree... I'm back in school

you have to go out and chase something once you have the degree, but you need the degree to be in the running.

More like you need experience to be in the running. Or at least in most jobs.. they will hire someone with experience, over someone who has a degree and no experience. It really depends what you are doing i suppose.

Wiscon_Mark
03-25-2007, 04:59 PM
And without experience, or a degree, how do you get in the running?

Family or friends, that's the only way.

cinnamon_girl
03-25-2007, 05:46 PM
And without experience, or a degree, how do you get in the running?

Family or friends, that's the only way.

pretty much-and while family/friends helped me get the job i have now..my "connection"/people skills really aren't going to get me a pharmacist job.

Now don't get me wrong, i have seen a handful of people who make good money w/o a degree, simply by moving up in their field, but as previously mentioned a lot of that is a family/friend or a factory/hard labor job where you can move up w/ experience, and while i'd be more than willing to take a factory job, we're not all able to do that. I'm not all that hyped up about goin' to college, but i think it'll have more benefits than consequences

scottzg
03-25-2007, 05:54 PM
More like you need experience to be in the running. Or at least in most jobs.. they will hire someone with experience, over someone who has a degree and no experience. It really depends what you are doing i suppose.

I have the experience, no degree-- no job.

cinnamon_girl
03-25-2007, 05:56 PM
so you said you were going back to school then? what type of degree are you looking at? associates?

d1giPhux
03-25-2007, 06:20 PM
[quote="Wiscon_Mark":16rx5tna]And without experience, or a degree, how do you get in the running?

Family or friends, that's the only way.

pretty much-and while family/friends helped me get the job i have now..my "connection"/people skills really aren't going to get me a pharmacist job.

Now don't get me wrong, i have seen a handful of people who make good money w/o a degree, simply by moving up in their field, but as previously mentioned a lot of that is a family/friend or a factory/hard labor job where you can move up w/ experience, and while i'd be more than willing to take a factory job, we're not all able to do that. I'm not all that hyped up about goin' to college, but i think it'll have more benefits than consequences[/quote:16rx5tna]

Ahh, a classic choice, the pill pusher. There is money in this field after all.. since america is pretty much a country full of pharm companies constantly pushing drugs on people that dont need them, and an endless list of users who will be hooked to them for life because they think they do. Mis-diagnosis is this fields best friend.. so as long as doctors keep getting a cut from the pharm companies.. you will be in business. At least you will have money... probably more then i will ever make. I should have chose a field like this.. selling drugs would NOT be a problem in this day and age at all!

Wiscon_Mark
03-26-2007, 12:19 AM
I wouldn't describe a pharmacist as a pill pusher - the doctors and psychologists are the one prescribing them.

Huffer
03-26-2007, 07:42 AM
I worked a part time job from the time I was 15, each week, and full time during the summers. I still traveled during summer break (roadies are fun!) and went to college without a loan. I lived at home and worked part time also.

Sure, it's tough, but it's way better than graduating and having to find a good job in 6 months to pay back a bunch of loans.

People just have to be patient.

d1giPhux
03-26-2007, 09:20 AM
Hey mark.. this is pretty close to you. Looks nice too!

http://tinyurl.com/ypjcpz

Wiscon_Mark
03-26-2007, 09:23 AM
dude, she's not driving to Cleveland to buy a car. Not everyone is as faithful as you.

Huffer
03-26-2007, 09:41 AM
I've considered that for the girl, but she's into the BE style. Specifically the red ones.
:lol:

d1giPhux
03-26-2007, 09:45 AM
dude, she's not driving to Cleveland to buy a car. Not everyone is as faithful as you.

How far is it from you? Faithful.. what? LOL was just throwing up a link.. haha, its cant be THAT far. its not like your driving to california or something! You should drive for her! :lol:

Huffer
03-26-2007, 09:47 AM
It's 10hours.

Wiscon_Mark
03-26-2007, 09:47 AM
That's a good 500 miles, one way.

d1giPhux
03-26-2007, 09:55 AM
That's a good 500 miles, one way.

bah. LOL. sounds like a road trip to me! :cool: .. hey, its better than driving back 18 hours in horrible weather, after being in airports / on planes all day! hahaha

cinnamon_girl
03-26-2007, 09:08 PM
as hot as the car is, I just can't drive to Ohio for a car, the cost of getting there and back isn't worth it, sorry guys. appreciate the efforts though...it really is a nice looking car.

And as for the "pill pusher"- I want to be a pharmacist for the research and the connections to immunology. I do think it's ridiculus how people abuse Rx drugs and cause everyone to become immune and diseases mutate, causing more problems. I want to do the research, and have the extensive knowledge base behind the prescriptions and how what fights what in the body and teach people how to use them appropriately. Eventually I'd love to become a professor or become a lab rat, maybe find a cure, or at least a better regiment to cure my brother's disease JRA. So yea, I have my reasons for needing college-expenses or not.