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warrior
04-22-2007, 12:03 AM
JDM Projector Install: Straight Splicing

Notes:
• Disconnect negative terminal from battery
• There are no removal instructions or assembly instructions as those should already be straight forward.
• There are four bolts to remove the USDM Headlights and only three to mount the JDM Headlights
• To remove the grill; use a flat screw driver to push the centre lever between the clips down until you hear a 'click'. The plastic lever stays down and this will allow you to remove the whole clip from the frame. The clips come off from the frame and stay mounted to the grill.

Part 1: USDM Electrical Wires Explained

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/jdmprojector01-1.jpg
Driver Side
Red = High Beam
Red/Blue = Power
Yellow/Blue = Low Beam

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/jdmprojector02-1.jpg
Passenger Side
Red = High Beam
Black/Yellow = Power
Yellow/Blue = Low Beam

Part 2: JDM Electrical Wires Explained

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/jdmprojector04-1.jpg
The wires are identical for both driver/passenger side. These really don't need an explanation as you can trace the wires yourself to see which one goes where.
Red = Power (This wire goes to both high/low beam bulbs)
Blue = City Light. (I did not hook this up as I did not have any use for it. I believe this is also their Daytime Running Light. This is paired with the low beam wire.)
White = High Beam (Only goes to the high beam bulb)
Black = Low Beam (Only goes to the low beam bulb)

Looking directly at the connector with the prongs facing you and the tab/clip on top, the wires are as follow.

Top Left = High Beam
Bottom Left = Power
Top Right = City Light
Bottom Right = Low Beam

Part 3: Splicing

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/jdmprojector03-1.jpg
My JDM Projectors did not come with the OEM wiring harness. This doesn't make it any more difficult as you could just splice the wires directly to your stock lighting wires, but I wanted the ability to remove my headlights if I ever needed too. These were purchased from Canadian Tire for $4 each. They didn't have a 3 or 4 prong harness and I purchased two different ones so I wouldn't confuse wiring.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/jdmprojector05-1.jpg
This is pretty straight forward. It doesn't matter what wires you use on your new harness (if you chose to go this route) as long as they match up on the other end. If your JDM Projector lights came with the complete harness, you can skip this step and solder the wires to your stock wires.
Don't know how to solder? http://www.aaroncake.net/electronics/solder.htm

Do the same on the stock wiring using picture 01 for reference.

Part 4: Turn Signal Fix

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/jdmprojector06-1.jpg
The JDM socket will not work with your USDM turn signals. It is a single filament bulb whereas the USDM ones are a dual filament. This fix requires an exacto knife and 30 seconds. There are four notches surrounding the bulb socket; three of them are the same size and align perfectly. The fourth one is slightly larger in the USDM side.
Take an exacto knife (BE CAREFUL!) or a dremel; whatever you prefer and take out like 1/16th of an inch on both sides. Along the red lines as shown in the picture. This will be done on your USDM socket, the JDM is of no use to you.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/jdmprojector07-1.jpg
With the plastic notch shortened, it fits perfectly into the JDM Lights allowing your signals to work with your upgraded lights.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/jdmprojector08-1.jpg
Three wire turn signal inside JDM head lights.

Review:
The bulbs that I got with these lights were crap so I will be buying some Xtra Visions tomorrow. The cut off is really nice though there isn't much light output due to the shit bulbs. The driver side projector lens can be adjusted horizontally a great deal to avoid blinding oncoming traffic. However, the passenger side is limited. Overall, this took me about one hour to do, it wasn't difficult at all, just soldering and attention to detail was time consuming.

Good luck and hope this helps!!

Plays_with_Toys
04-22-2007, 01:16 AM
Great write up! Thank you very much!

Superu264
04-22-2007, 07:11 AM
I just assumed we had a DIY for the projectors. :lol:


Good job dude.

d1giPhux
04-22-2007, 12:20 PM
Good job on the writeup! If only this was around when I installed mine! :smt023

shazapple
04-22-2007, 12:50 PM
I'm glad someone did a writeup, now we have a official place for these :)

My JDM projectors did come with the connections and the wires were the same colour, so I just had to slice them together
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3866/img1728yo0.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1728yo0.jpg)
The JDM plug is on the left and the USDM wires are on the right. I crimped and shrink wrapped my connections. Also, the extra wire I have taped up is for the small bulb in between the projector and turn signal (I didn't want to use it)


In these pictures the car is parked 30 feet away from the garage. These are pictures of my stock headlights and JDM fogs.

---Low beams---------Low with both fogs--------High with fogs
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/lowsv7th-1.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lowsv7.jpg) http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/7042/lowfogstx7.th.jpg (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lowfogstx7.jpg) https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/highfogsci9th-1.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=highfogsci9.jpg)
The fogs fill in the lower part of the road and a lot of the low beam area, the high beams pretty much point in the same place as the lows, but its more concentrated on the center.
In other words, my high beams do jack squat and my foglights are more useful than my low beams.

Now for the JDM projectors and JDM fogs

---Low beams---------Low with both fogs---------High with fogs
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/img1729dq6th-1.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1729dq6.jpg) http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5139/img1730ag5.th.jpg (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1730ag5.jpg) http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/918/img1732bn4.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1732bn4.jpg)
How to aim your headlights
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html
MUCH better. The high beams are actually high as you can see from the pictures) and the low beams are well defined. They still need to be raised a tiny bit more. I should have raised my old headlights a bit and that would of helped, but not as much as these new ones have.

Stock vs JDM look
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/img1702yo3th-1.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1702yo3.jpg) http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9004/img1735gs5.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1735gs5.jpg) http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2417/img1737wq3.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1737wq3.jpg)
The projectors arnt on with the highs its just the flash :wink:

2.5GT
04-22-2007, 02:20 PM
What headlight bulb does the projectors use?

And will this route still be ok if you were to run a aftermarket HID system?

Superu264
04-22-2007, 02:51 PM
Headlight is H1 bulb.

High beam is H3 I think, not 100% sure.

backpack09
04-22-2007, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Cajual:
Projector = Low Beam = H1
Reflector = Hi Beam = H3
Driving Lamp = accessory bulb number 168

LegacyLSi
06-17-2007, 01:42 PM
Nice writeup. I just finished installing another set in a friends Leggy. Oddly enough the wiring is the same on mine and his, but the the bulbs light up slighly different. On his on low beam only the projectors are lit. On mine (low beam) the projectors are lit and the high beams have a very slight glow to them. The only differences are his is a 97 and mine is a 96. Any ideas?

dplacencia
08-30-2007, 06:02 PM
Which head light has to be reaimed because of them being of a right hand car? Which bolt abjust side to side on the projector top or buttom?

Plays_with_Toys
08-31-2007, 12:29 AM
When i installed mine I parked my car up to my garage (10ft away or so, taped off where my USDM headlights were pointing, then when I installed the JDM's, I just aimed them accordingly. And actually, no aiming was necessary, esworthy must've taken care of it before me. The high beams are adjusted side to side with the top screw, and up and down with the bottom. Projectors might be the same?

I tried to get the city lights to work when my high beams came on, but trying to figure out what to tap into was driving me nuts (put a volt meter to the wires and you'll see why, the polarity on the ground wire switches). When I got the city light on, it was so pathetic (a hint of light and nothing more) that I decided not to keep it.

2.5GT
09-09-2007, 06:32 PM
Question:

Is there anyway for me to run a aftermarket HID kit?

On my projectors, it came with the JDM wiring/connector. I just solder that to the USDM wires.

dplacencia
09-09-2007, 06:36 PM
I only got one connector for my headlights. I used speaker wire to install them.

vtlegacy95
09-09-2007, 07:28 PM
I got 2 H4 harnesses of ebay and wired the projector with them that way if I ever sell them the next person will be install, plug and play

Plays_with_Toys
09-10-2007, 12:20 AM
fwiw the city lights suck. They're light output is so incredibly miniscule it's funny. I painted the bulbs yellow so that I could do yellow fogs, city and high beams, but the city lights are this really crappy dull essence of light.

2.5GT
09-10-2007, 09:12 PM
and another question:

When i turn on my low beam setting; the high beam comes on.
and high beam setting; the low beam comes on :-?

and my projector dont light up...well not by much, its always the corner light that lights up the most...wiring problem?

2.5GT
09-10-2007, 09:14 PM
I got 2 H4 harnesses of ebay and wired the projector with them that way if I ever sell them the next person will be install, plug and play

so which bulb size should i get? h1 or h3? or both for HIDs? will that even work like that?

vtlegacy95
09-10-2007, 09:58 PM
so which bulb size should i get? h1 or h3? or both for HIDs? will that even work like that?

no, I got the male end of the H4 like http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H4-9003-Male-Connectors-Plugs-wire-harness-HID-D2S-D2R_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQihZ017QQitemZ270163210733QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

and spliced in the stock JDM wiring harness into this plug therefore the stock wiring harness on the car itself was not touched.

and the JDM headlights are now plug and play for the next person.

2.5GT
09-11-2007, 01:50 PM
so which bulb size should i get? h1 or h3? or both for HIDs? will that even work like that?

no, I got the male end of the H4 like http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H4-9003-Male-Connectors-Plugs-wire-harness-HID-D2S-D2R_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQihZ017QQitemZ270163210733QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

and spliced in the stock JDM wiring harness into this plug therefore the stock wiring harness on the car itself was not touched.

and the JDM headlights are now plug and play for the next person.

can i use h1 or h3 harness? why h4?

vtlegacy95
09-11-2007, 11:14 PM
stock headlight wiring on the chassis remains the same. Stock headlight uses H4 buld and harness


the wiring above^ is spliced onto the JDM headlight wiring

Plays_with_Toys
09-12-2007, 01:49 AM
That H4 harness plugs into the H4 plug that came on the above poster's headlight wiring. If you are in a 97 or newer legacy, you'll have a different plug. He was saying, instead of having to cut wires and splice in, now it's a simple plug and play procedure to remove the headlights and put the stockers back in.

As for your wiring problem, I noticed that when you have low beams on, one wire is positive and the other ground. When you go to highbeam, the positive wire turns negative and you have another wire altogether that is ground. Probably have a wire mixed up.

2.5GT
09-12-2007, 06:26 PM
yeah, i have a '98, so its different.

And I might have to go and double check again with the wiring. it was weird tho, i check for every wire to match up to each other, still wasn't working correctly.

vtlegacy95
09-12-2007, 11:55 PM
That H4 harness plugs into the H4 plug that came on the above poster's headlight wiring. If you are in a 97 or newer legacy, you'll have a different plug. He was saying, instead of having to cut wires and splice in, now it's a simple plug and play procedure to remove the headlights and put the stockers back in.

what bulbs are stock in 97 and up? I didn't know that there was a change.

Plays_with_Toys
09-13-2007, 10:31 AM
I believe they use 9007, as opposed to the 95-early97 where they used 9003/H4.

2.5GT
09-13-2007, 09:24 PM
yeah 9007 bulbs, thats why i didn't get the h4 harness deal.

so i was kinda right, use h1 harness kit for the low beam.

andivic
11-07-2007, 01:16 PM
Hey Warrior. Does your high beam stay on when you flash or turn on high beam ?

warrior
11-08-2007, 01:44 PM
Hey Warrior. Does your high beam stay on when you flash or turn on high beam ?

Do you mean low beam??

If you meant low beam, then no it didn't. It would always turn off until the high beams turned off. This has since been fixed once I installed my HID retrofit.. high beams are now independent from low beams :wink:

andivic
11-08-2007, 03:38 PM
Hey Warrior. Does your high beam stay on when you flash or turn on high beam ?

Do you mean low beam??

If you meant low beam, then no it didn't. It would always turn off until the high beams turned off. This has since been fixed once I installed my HID retrofit.. high beams are now independent from low beams :wink:

I believe if you ground low beam (-) directly to your chassie, this should make low beam stay on when u flash or engage in high beam mode.

The reason is BD / BG headlight has switch ground, your low beam lose (-) when you switch to high beam. Try it and let me know.

Andy

warrior
11-14-2007, 04:30 PM
I'm not sure why you want me to try that since I have independent low beams, fogs and high beams... ever since I did my HID install, I've re-wired a lot of stuff to make it independent.

andivic
11-14-2007, 05:44 PM
I'm not sure why you want me to try that since I have independent low beams, fogs and high beams... ever since I did my HID install, I've re-wired a lot of stuff to make it independent.

its all good, i was trying to help :grin:

sorry that i didn't know u got everything figured out

Matt S.
11-28-2007, 10:15 PM
Big thanks to warrior for the write up! Got my projectors in and quite honestly, I think they would have been worth twice the cost vs my stock lights. They work fantastic.

I also bought the male H4 plug ends from ebay and wired them to the projectors. Now they are a perfect plug-n-play. Thanks fellas!

2.5GT
12-01-2007, 05:32 PM
what kind of harness do i need if i were to run HID in both low and high beam?

2.5GT
12-03-2007, 07:42 PM
anyone>?

vtlegacy95
12-03-2007, 11:48 PM
anyone>?

don't quote me,

but you are going to need to run to blubs/balasts for each headlight because you want HID high beams and low beams. So you could probably get http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/9004-9007-Racing-Heat-Resistance-Headlight-Wiring-Plugs_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ42613QQihZ011QQitemZ320188667239QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW and wire the balasts into the harness.

BTW the projector headlights and yellow projector fogs are great in the Snow

Reason
12-03-2007, 11:51 PM
you are using JDM projectors with a high bulb and a low bulb. You need two kits. If you had your stock headlights with the high/lows combined you need one kit.

1-3-2-4
12-17-2007, 09:03 PM
I'm glad someone did a writeup, now we have a official place for these :)

My JDM projectors did come with the connections and the wires were the same colour, so I just had to slice them together
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/ (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1728yo0.jpg)
The JDM plug is on the left and the USDM wires are on the right. I crimped and shrink wrapped my connections. Also, the extra wire I have taped up is for the small bulb in between the projector and turn signal (I didn't want to use it)


In these pictures the car is parked 30 feet away from the garage. These are pictures of my stock headlights and JDM fogs.

---Low beams---------Low with both fogs--------High with fogs
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/lowsv7th-1.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lowsv7.jpg) https://sl-i.net/FORUM/ (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lowfogstx7.jpg) https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/highfogsci9th-1.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=highfogsci9.jpg)
The fogs fill in the lower part of the road and a lot of the low beam area, the high beams pretty much point in the same place as the lows, but its more concentrated on the center.
In other words, my high beams do jack squat and my foglights are more useful than my low beams.

Now for the JDM projectors and JDM fogs

---Low beams---------Low with both fogs---------High with fogs
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/img1729dq6th-1.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1729dq6.jpg) https://sl-i.net/FORUM/ (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1730ag5.jpg) https://sl-i.net/FORUM/ (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1732bn4.jpg)
How to aim your headlights
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html
MUCH better. The high beams are actually high as you can see from the pictures) and the low beams are well defined. They still need to be raised a tiny bit more. I should have raised my old headlights a bit and that would of helped, but not as much as these new ones have.

Stock vs JDM look
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/04/img1702yo3th-1.jpg (http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1702yo3.jpg) https://sl-i.net/FORUM/ (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1735gs5.jpg) https://sl-i.net/FORUM/ (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1737wq3.jpg)
The projectors arnt on with the highs its just the flash :wink:

sorry to bump this but wow how come the cutoff is so poor with the projectors?

JMoney
12-17-2007, 10:27 PM
Mine is actually quite good.

PJ2277
12-24-2007, 08:58 AM
My projector bulb recently burnt out. I replaced it with a new H1 bulb now all that come on is the running lights and a faint yellow glow but NO projector light comes on. Hopefully I didn't short anything out when the other bulb burnt out.

Any suggestions please let me know. Do you guys think the Subaru Dealership could fix the problem?? since they are JDM projectors?

Help.. I need some light BAD!!!!

Thanks

PJ

blueb3
12-27-2007, 03:28 PM
Thanks for this write up! I got my JDM projectors for Christmas, and I'm itching to get them installed. Sadly I need to rewire my fogs as well since they mysteriously stopped working. Wish me luck.

blueb3
12-31-2007, 01:06 AM
Damnit!! There's about 1/4 inch of wire on the end of the plug. Looks like I need to splice on the other ind of the connector.

blueb3
02-29-2008, 12:43 PM
ok, got them wired up so they are plug and play, and that's where the problems are starting. After following the write up above, we plugged in the first ligh: Success! high beam is really dim though... Plug in second light (wired exactly the same) High beam is on the second, low on the first? /scratch head Rip the wiring apart on the second one, test it with bare wires touching before sealing/crimping/etc. Works! So, finish all the connections, and now with lows on, the high beam indicator is on in the car, with the high beams on, the bulbs are SUPER dim, and the high beam indicator is on in the car too.


Suggestions?

2.5GT
03-05-2008, 03:16 PM
you got the jdm wire mixed up the the usdm wires. i had this happen to me when i didn't pay attention to which wires i was soldering.

chipLRX-SLI
03-15-2008, 05:07 PM
so if i have a 98 can i use the h4 plugs to make my jdm projectors plug and play ?

warrior
03-17-2008, 08:49 AM
so if i have a 98 can i use the h4 plugs to make my jdm projectors plug and play ?

Yes you can, I would have gone that route but couldn't find any :-(

I believe H4 has 4 prongs, you'll only need 3.. can't remember off the top of my head :oops:

chipLRX-SLI
03-17-2008, 07:54 PM
uh i got mine off of ebay it says h4,h3 and so on . also what does the inside of the projector look like beacsue mine looks like it is missing some stuff ! here is the wiring i got http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... Y.m238.lVI (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBTOX%3AIT&viewitem=&item=190206009277&_trksid=p3984.cTODAY.m238.lVI)

warrior
03-18-2008, 08:42 AM
Oh.. we're misunderstanding each other.

I'm not quite understanding what you're asking?

chipLRX-SLI
03-18-2008, 01:23 PM
im trying to figure out what wires i will need for my 1998 subaru legacy to wire my jdm projectors so they are plug and play . i read that i can use a h4 wiring kit is taht correct ?

J-Rock!
03-28-2008, 04:19 PM
Ok yes the write up is awsome great instructions mine work fine i just didnt wire up the city light Is all the city lights have a blue tint to them. and where would i wire it up for independent city light

chipLRX-SLI
04-03-2008, 08:21 PM
so i wired my lights up today and i did one side and nothing re wired it three times and still nothing so i move to the next light and nothing works but my high beam. first of all there are no bulbs in the projector. turn signals work on both sides.
some help please no clue what is wrong !

makipsee
04-03-2008, 08:35 PM
just ordered a set of projectors and cant wait 2 get them if something doesnt go right ill be posting lol but by the looks of the write up seems pretty easy

chipLRX-SLI
04-06-2008, 08:29 PM
im a idiot bad bulbs replaced all of them now they work perfectly all i need to do now is adjust mine the low beam shies in ppls faces .and the high beams lights up too close to the car . great write up help alot with install .

makipsee
04-09-2008, 10:42 PM
got the lights today and just installed them and im lovein them but rather then buying new plugs 2 add on i just use the one that was on there already since there was enough wire 2 work with and the colors match so it was even easyer

makipsee
04-11-2008, 10:50 PM
well for the first time of driveing my car with the projectors in i noticed they were out of adjustment does anyone know the legal height for the cutoff in New York?... also my cutoffs are reversed im guessing this is b/c there JDM... its there anyway to switch the cutoff direction?

danci1973
04-12-2008, 12:35 AM
well for the first time of driveing my car with the projectors in i noticed they were out of adjustment does anyone know the legal height for the cutoff in New York?... also my cutoffs are reversed im guessing this is b/c there JDM... its there anyway to switch the cutoff direction?
You can find good info about aiming headlights here (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html). :cool:

Don't know about reversing the cut-off... :neutral:

D.

makipsee
04-12-2008, 07:37 AM
thanks alot danci1973 that is just was i was looking for... well after doing more digging on here i found out theres no way 2 reverse it other then baking it and dremeling it out

chipLRX-SLI
04-22-2008, 03:31 PM
what wire do you tap into to make the city lights be on ?

makipsee
04-22-2008, 06:59 PM
it depends on how u want them 2 work if u want them on with the parking lights u just tap off the parking lights... or u can run a seprate wire and add a switch so its totally standalone

chipLRX-SLI
05-19-2008, 05:07 PM
i just ran it with the power wires so they are on all the time when low beams are on and off when high beams are on.

1-3-2-4
05-23-2008, 08:12 PM
What about an older model like a 95?

1-3-2-4
05-31-2008, 08:44 AM
The JDM lights shut the low beam off when you use the high beam?

subba
05-31-2008, 09:52 AM
The JDM lights shut the low beam off when you use the high beam?

If you mean when the original lights are installed on the original car from japan then, Nope.

Both are on

makipsee
05-31-2008, 09:53 AM
the headlights dont do that, thats in the headlight switch its self, and i have a 95 leggy BK wagon and they fit fine

1-3-2-4
05-31-2008, 09:58 AM
The JDM lights shut the low beam off when you use the high beam?

If you mean when the original lights are installed on the original car from japan then, Nope.

Both are on

I'm talking about JDM headlights installed a USDM car.

makipsee
05-31-2008, 10:08 AM
I'm talking about JDM headlights installed a USDM car.
the headlights dont do that, thats in the headlight switch its self so in other words no only one at a time

1-3-2-4
05-31-2008, 10:13 AM
I'm talking about JDM headlights installed a USDM car.
the headlights dont do that, thats in the headlight switch its self so in other words no only one at a time

ah ok Then I will have to follow the other DIY about installing HID's but keeping the lows on with the high beams.

1-3-2-4
06-12-2008, 02:18 PM
question I got my projectors today however I just need to wire up the High beams as I can hook the low beams up to the stock wiring.. however my driver side harness was missing and is not on that side.. Is this going to be a problem? I did not want to cut any of the JDM wires if I can help it...

Lilripstr
06-24-2008, 01:33 PM
Question, I have a 98 BD, I think my stockers are 9004 so I was wondering if I could use these from ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__NEW-NOKYA-9004-HEADLIGHT-HARNESS-WIRING-WIRE-BULBS-BULB_W0QQitemZ220247667608QQadnZCarQ20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadiZ2865QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item220247667608&
I was thinking about cutting the female end and connecting it to the JDM headlights and then it would be plug and play without having to cut my car's harness. Would anyone know if this would work?

1-3-2-4
06-24-2008, 08:41 PM
what the heck are those for?

warrior
06-26-2008, 02:28 PM
Question, I have a 98 BD, I think my stockers are 9004 so I was wondering if I could use these from ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__NEW-NOKYA-9004-HEADLIGHT-HARNESS-WIRING-WIRE-BULBS-BULB_W0QQitemZ220247667608QQadnZCarQ20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadiZ2865QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item220247667608&
I was thinking about cutting the female end and connecting it to the JDM headlights and then it would be plug and play without having to cut my car's harness. Would anyone know if this would work?

that would work ;)

nosbocaj
07-18-2008, 08:31 PM
Can anybody tell me what gauge of wire is in the projectors? I don't have a soldering iron so I'm planning on crimping the wires together. Thanks!

makipsee
07-18-2008, 09:28 PM
anything from 16-12 should be fine. please correct me if im wrong

MyogiNightKid
10-07-2008, 11:09 AM
I believe if you ground low beam (-) directly to your chassie, this should make low beam stay on when u flash or engage in high beam mode.

The reason is BD / BG headlight has switch ground, your low beam lose (-) when you switch to high beam. Try it and let me know.

Andy

Will this work? HIDs come in tomorrow and I dont want them to kick off if I flash my highs.

Zedhead
11-15-2008, 09:23 AM
So is grounding the LB wire the way to get all 4 lights to light when High Beam is selected?

anothernord
12-11-2008, 09:35 PM
So is grounding the LB wire the way to get all 4 lights to light when High Beam is selected?

I was wondering about this as well; I just ordered a set so when they arrive I'll do some experimentation.

Edit #2:
Ok, to make the low beams stay on with the high beams, I simply ground the low beam wire (yellow).
I wired my city light in with the power wire (black/yellow passenger side, red/blue driver side).

Now all four lights come on with high beam.

Sorry for the confusing pic, hopefully someone can make sense of it.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2008/12/IMG_27871-1.jpg

decke48
12-30-2008, 02:31 PM
ok well today i reseive my morette lights. and not to start a new topic. im i better run the lights of the stock harness/setup. or running a relay setup. dual or single (as the morette is setup). and adaptin it to the 9007 harness plugs

MyogiNightKid
12-30-2008, 04:34 PM
Edit #2:
Ok, to make the low beams stay on with the high beams, I simply ground the low beam wire (yellow).


So just ground the low beam wire to the chassis? Unless I print out your chart and take it to the car, Im sure Ill be confused. :smt017

anothernord
12-30-2008, 05:07 PM
Edit #2:
Ok, to make the low beams stay on with the high beams, I simply ground the low beam wire (yellow).


So just ground the low beam wire to the chassis? Unless I print out your chart and take it to the car, Im sure Ill be confused. :smt017

Yes, grounding the low beam wire should make the low beams stay on with the highs. You can just take the wire and use an eyelet terminal to attach it to a bolt on the chassis somewhere, or you can take some extra wire and run it directly to the negative terminal on the battery. Either way will work just as well; I opted to ground to the battery just for peace of mind.

The low beam wire is the yellow one on both sides I believe.

Hope this helps. :smt023

Zedhead
12-31-2008, 08:32 AM
Yep, that's what I did.

I just used a 9006 bulb, broke the glass out of it and connected my wires to tabs on the bulb base.

jonklein611
01-07-2009, 12:28 AM
Kudos for this writeup, I just got a set off Ebay! :smt007

Got my H4 harnesses ordered too.

Thanks for all the info..... as it prevents:

:smt014

slaytalera
01-08-2009, 07:13 PM
hey...i looked at my harness from the headlights i got and the wires are competly different and i cant get it to work, i thionk the city lights are messing me up. ill post pics when i get home, im at my dads shop, but there are 2 red wires, a black/yellow wire and a red/black wire.

anothernord
01-08-2009, 09:19 PM
The city lights is the tiny red wire; all the other wires should be identical in color to your stock wiring; just match and splice.

On my projectors, the little red city light wire was a 12V line, but others seem to report it as a ground.. :smt017

slaytalera
01-08-2009, 10:41 PM
thanks! that makes things alot easier

jonklein611
01-09-2009, 11:27 PM
anyone have a pic of these city lights in action?

99SUS SFD
01-10-2009, 09:43 AM
I'll see if I can find one in a minute. I've heard people say that the light output is so miniscule it's not even worth hooking them up.

Ok, you can see the amber city lights in Oskar's old Suby:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/01/IMG_4223_psLarge-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/01/IMG_4218_psLarge-1.jpg

jonklein611
01-12-2009, 01:05 PM
Mine just came in today yay! Has the JDM clip. What's the pin setup for H4 bulbs? I got the lows to come on, hi beams do not, and the city light stays on all the time (wtf?).


Hellllp! :smt006

Okin DaVanh
01-12-2009, 04:21 PM
anyone have a pic of these city lights in action?



Clear bulbs (not the pic tho-sorry)
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/01/l_5395da1428a844eca8936faa8870658d-1.jpg

Amber Bulbs
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/01/l_7b661890198b4ea88dee64718d2e71ec-1.jpg

anothernord
01-12-2009, 06:05 PM
Mine just came in today yay! Has the JDM clip. What's the pin setup for H4 bulbs? I got the lows to come on, hi beams do not, and the city light stays on all the time (wtf?).


Hellllp! :smt006

I think this is right, someone please tell me otherwise because there is nothing worse than bad info.

This is looking at the female plug from the front.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/01/untitled-1.jpg

jonklein611
01-12-2009, 07:00 PM
Mine just came in today yay! Has the JDM clip. What's the pin setup for H4 bulbs? I got the lows to come on, hi beams do not, and the city light stays on all the time (wtf?).


Hellllp! :smt006

I think this is right, someone please tell me otherwise because there is nothing worse than bad info.

This is looking at the female plug from the front.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/01/untitled-1.jpg

Yupp confirmed with my multi meter. Thank you!


Up and running right now. :-)

jonklein611
01-13-2009, 11:32 AM
On another note, replaced the bulbs that came with it for SilverStars. HOLY MOTHER OF GOD. I was melting snow with the low beams alone! :grin:

Thanks again for all the help and the excellent writeup!


Oh yeah, which screw controls what part of the aiming?

anothernord
01-13-2009, 05:44 PM
For the projectors the top screws control vertical adjustment and the bottom are for horizontal.

Not sure on the high beams, but I think its the same.

jonklein611
01-13-2009, 10:36 PM
no adjustment screws for the hi beams as they should line up with the low. Thanks for the info!

jonklein611
01-17-2009, 10:38 PM
Got them installed! :smt007 They are awesome. Haven't bothered about the city lights, i might wire them into the turn signal, but minus the flashing....



https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/01/IMG_0762-1.jpg


Thanks for everyones tips / advice.

Okin DaVanh
01-18-2009, 07:34 AM
Got them installed! :smt007 They are awesome. Haven't bothered about the city lights, i might wire them into the turn signal, but minus the flashing....


That's what I did. I just wired them into the parking light wire off the corner light. They're on when my parking lights are on.

jonklein611
01-18-2009, 01:31 PM
Got them installed! :smt007 They are awesome. Haven't bothered about the city lights, i might wire them into the turn signal, but minus the flashing....


That's what I did. I just wired them into the parking light wire off the corner light. They're on when my parking lights are on.


Which wire do I tie into?

csweston
02-04-2009, 12:01 AM
So the projector is for the High beams only or is it for only the low beams?

anothernord
02-04-2009, 12:20 AM
Projector is low beam only.

Grafton
02-05-2009, 04:15 PM
EDIT#3
what amperage rating are the stock headlight relays

issues resoved

jonklein611
02-06-2009, 11:16 PM
EDIT#3
what amperage rating are the stock headlight relays

issues resoved

I want to say 15A...

Hobo Joe
02-08-2009, 04:06 PM
I just got done installing JDM headlamps and the high beams are fine but when I turn on the low beams the low beams are bright but the highbeams are on but very dim. Is this normal or no. Ive been over the wiring over a thousand times.

jonklein611
02-08-2009, 04:07 PM
I just got done installing JDM headlamps and the high beams are fine but when I turn on the low beams the low beams are bright but the highbeams are on but very dim. Is this normal or no. Ive been over the wiring over a thousand times.

wiring harness backwards?

Hobo Joe
02-08-2009, 10:05 PM
Ill have to double check when I go back up to my parents house. These do make one hell of a difference of the appearance of my fathers 96 Leg L Wagon.

anothernord
02-08-2009, 11:33 PM
It's possible for the wires to be hooked up backwards to the bulbs. Mine were actually reversed when I received them in the mail; go figure.

jonklein611
02-09-2009, 11:40 AM
It's possible for the wires to be hooked up backwards to the bulbs. Mine were actually reversed when I received them in the mail; go figure.


The pin guide shown in this article is as if you were looking AT the JDM harness side (not AT the bulb clip). It threw me for a curveball too. Depends also on if the lights you got even had the JDM harness.

MyogiNightKid
02-10-2009, 05:29 PM
To keep the High Beams on, as was stated earlier, take the yellow wire (low beam ground) from each light, cut it from the harness and ground it to a body point. I used the outer bolts for the headlights using eye hooks.

Thanks to everyone for their help! :smt006

jonklein611
02-11-2009, 10:23 PM
Anyone know which wire on the turn signal i can wire the the city light into?

1-3-2-4
02-16-2009, 04:25 PM
no adjustment screws for the hi beams as they should line up with the low. Thanks for the info!


If you are talking about the JDM lights they do have adjustment screws but one should not need to touch them unless it's really out of wack.. and the low does not move the Hi beam.

Brockley
03-28-2009, 02:02 AM
Just installed mine, grounded the low beam so they are on with the high beam also...

and ran a wire from the City light to the red wire on either side marker...

my headlights came with exactly what bulbs I wanted,,, very blue/white lows and very yellow high beams... clear city light... Freakin AWESOME!!!

thx for the write ups. Pics will be up soon!

Brockley
03-28-2009, 02:03 AM
Anyone know which wire on the turn signal i can wire the the city light into?

If you hadn't done this yet, it is from the city light to the solid red wire at the corner lights... so match colors... this is on my early 97GT

tecnica technician
04-06-2009, 04:02 PM
Just installed mine, grounded the low beam so they are on with the high beam also...

and ran a wire from the City light to the red wire on either side marker...

my headlights came with exactly what bulbs I wanted,,, very blue/white lows and very yellow high beams... clear city light... Freakin AWESOME!!!

thx for the write ups. Pics will be up soon!

how and where did you ground the low beam so they stay on with the highs if you can show pic that would be great

anothernord
04-06-2009, 08:08 PM
Just installed mine, grounded the low beam so they are on with the high beam also...

and ran a wire from the City light to the red wire on either side marker...

my headlights came with exactly what bulbs I wanted,,, very blue/white lows and very yellow high beams... clear city light... Freakin AWESOME!!!

thx for the write ups. Pics will be up soon!

how and where did you ground the low beam so they stay on with the highs if you can show pic that would be great

All you have to do is take the yellow low beam wire and connect it somewhere on the chassis, or straight to the negative battery terminal.

1-3-2-4
04-12-2009, 06:14 PM
has anyone's front parking light stopped working? funny both lights don't work but they work with the turn signal on...

Chocobosubaru
05-04-2009, 08:12 PM
I wired my Projectors the same way that this threat was saying to do and I cant get them to work right. The Low Beam is on all the time and the High Beam turns the City Light and the High on , but the low stays on. So I un hooked the City light and re wired the whole thing the way the thread said to, and now the low and highs stay on and I cant figure out what to do to make them work properly. :smt022 Any suggestions or wirring tips on how to wire them up properly???

jonklein611
05-14-2009, 09:05 AM
I wired my Projectors the same way that this threat was saying to do and I cant get them to work right. The Low Beam is on all the time and the High Beam turns the City Light and the High on , but the low stays on. So I un hooked the City light and re wired the whole thing the way the thread said to, and now the low and highs stay on and I cant figure out what to do to make them work properly. :smt022 Any suggestions or wirring tips on how to wire them up properly???

The pin references you are using could be backwards.....

)2edline
06-16-2009, 11:46 PM
While doing the independent fog mod, I contemplated going in and grounding my lows.

my only gripe is that i thought the the lows, where I have HIDs, would flash with the highs whenever my lows are not on. Is that what happens or do the lows only come on when the switch is engaged?

anothernord
06-17-2009, 12:51 AM
Yes, when you flash (pull handle toward yourself when headlights are off) the low beam is activated.

1-3-2-4
06-17-2009, 07:12 PM
^ yes that happens with me with the realay I made however if I flash with the lows on then they don't go off..

However I have seen BMW's with factory HID's do this same way with the lows off.

Grimace
07-13-2009, 07:15 PM
Can you have the city lights come on as your DRL's by themselves?

)2edline
07-13-2009, 09:20 PM
Ask Branden [HeresMyMind]

When I was at his place he showed me his crazy lights. His city lights are his drl, and then they coordinate with the turn signals when flashing, its cool.

DJOrtiz
07-19-2009, 06:18 AM
WOOOOTTT i sent those JDM headlights to him from Japan....

glad to see them working...

Grimace
08-10-2009, 05:45 PM
I totally lucked out. I ordered mine off ebay, had the pics from the DIY in front of me (awesome resource btw) and I didn't even need them. The wires all matched up in color to the USDM side......what are the odds.......Just have to adjust the aim on them now.

darjeeling
08-29-2009, 11:46 PM
I wonder how bright these JDM lights are vs the OE lights, both being new...Since most of the comparisons are being done against 10-15 year old sand-blaster OE lights vs newish H4 bulbs.

I just sanded and properly-aimed my my OE lights and put them side-by-side with my Audi that comes with H4/H1 Euros and the difference was not as much as I expected. I'm still popping in Hella FF50 driving lights in the fog spaces though...

anothernord
08-29-2009, 11:57 PM
The amount of raw light output will be roughly the same, but its the beam pattern that matters. JDM projectors give quite a bit better width, and the high beams are much brighter than the OEM high beams.

darjeeling
08-30-2009, 01:06 AM
The amount of raw light output will be roughly the same, but its the beam pattern that matters. JDM projectors give quite a bit better width, and the high beams are much brighter than the OEM high beams.

Granted, but how much of that is usable, I wonder. I compared them and didn't find a pile of difference. I'll probably upgrade when I have a spare $220, but I was let down once I realized that relaying the OE lights didn't help one bit either.

Zac
09-09-2009, 09:24 PM
ok but if you ground the lowbeam wire wont the low beam be on all the time regardless if your light switch is on or not?

anothernord
09-09-2009, 10:41 PM
ok but if you ground the lowbeam wire wont the low beam be on all the time regardless if your light switch is on or not?

Nope. The headlight relay has to be switched on by the headlight switch first.

Zac
09-12-2009, 07:35 PM
hmmm then how come even with the switch off my lows would be on anyways as my DRL?

anothernord
09-13-2009, 12:08 AM
hmmm then how come even with the switch off my lows would be on anyways as my DRL?

I can't speak for the DRL. The best thing I can recommend is to pick up a Haynes manual. It has the wiring diagrams for the model with the DRL. The wiring is a little different.

Navi271
09-24-2009, 01:27 AM
awesome DIY! Worked the first time I tried turning them on and had no problems whatsoever.

Dodge Aries K
09-25-2009, 08:46 PM
Okay, since this seems to be THE thread for the JDM headlights...

Are the housings glass or crappy plastic like my car's USDM lights? My old 86 Subaru Leone GL wagon, 92 Legacy, and 93 Impreza have glass housings which still have wonderful light output but this 96 Outback's headlights are so fogged up it's dangerous.

anothernord
09-26-2009, 01:17 AM
Okay, since this seems to be THE thread for the JDM headlights...

Are the housings glass or crappy plastic like my car's USDM lights? My old 86 Subaru Leone GL wagon, 92 Legacy, and 93 Impreza have glass housings which still have wonderful light output but this 96 Outback's headlights are so fogged up it's dangerous.

Its plastic, but if they ever fog up, just grab a bottle of PlasticX and polish them up.

greenspeed
10-21-2009, 03:29 AM
quick ? on this I skimmed the first page, but with the wiring set up are the low beams on with the highs?

ckernzie
10-27-2009, 05:18 PM
With the JDM lights the low beams should turn off when your highbeams are on. The low beams are also wired in as the DRL's. You won't be able to use the plug connector from your USDM lights, hopefully you have the JDM connector or you will be running to the auto parts store before you wire things up.
In the wiring described in the thread you can wire things so that the low & high come on when you hit your high beams or you can wire things so that the fogs come on with the highbeams. Personally I'm going to change out my fogs for amber lenses and I would not want them to come on with the highbeams due to the reason I would be using them. i.e. visability in blizzards and foggy conditions.

httrdd
02-05-2010, 04:31 PM
Went right off of the DIY to spice in the JDM connector and now I have a problem! The highs are coming on with the projectors and when I put the highs on I get the city lights to come on. The freakin city light wire is not even connected! Any ideas on what I have to do?

httrdd
02-05-2010, 08:00 PM
Anybody?? I need lights by tomorrow night! :smt022

makipsee
02-05-2010, 09:26 PM
have u traced out all the wires? and know which wires power what?

httrdd
02-05-2010, 10:14 PM
Yes I used the guide in the diy. I traced and checked all wires according to the diagram and color listing. I checked over and over again! It is weird how this can happen, especially when I have the city lights disconnected.

httrdd
02-05-2010, 11:28 PM
Here is how mine are connected. This is looking at the back of the connector not the male end.

makipsee
02-06-2010, 01:44 AM
well i just ran out 2 look at mine and with the plug plugged in and looking at the back side of it (where the wires go into the plug) the city light (small red) and the power (red/blue) r on top then the low beam (yellow/blue) and the high beam (red) r on the bottom. so judging by the pic u posted try swapping the power and high beam... heres a pic of mine from the back

httrdd
02-06-2010, 02:27 PM
I think that is exactally what happened. I thought I checked it a couple of times, but when I went out there today again I checked and two wires were swapped! I was trying to get out of the cold fast. I am going to redo those and let you know.

I appreciate you going out and taking a pics for me. You are ok in my book.

makipsee
02-06-2010, 02:31 PM
lol yea its a little cold out haha.. ok sounds good

no problem

httrdd
02-06-2010, 03:21 PM
These instructons are you supposed to have the light out looking at the prongs (without connector plugged in) and get your wiring from there?

httrdd
02-06-2010, 03:32 PM
Pic of drivers side.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/02/utf8BSU1HMDAwODktMjAxMDAyMDYtMTUyO-1.jpg

makipsee
02-06-2010, 04:03 PM
hmm thats weird the plug u have is different then the one on mine.... dont know y though

02-06-2010, 04:52 PM
this diy is more of a guideline than an instruction book,

wiring these is more of a guess check game

httrdd
02-06-2010, 05:30 PM
So what does that mean? I have to trace the wires in the light to find out where they have to go? I guess I can take the light inside and make my own diagram.

02-06-2010, 05:57 PM
no diagrams i found helped at all so i grounded tem, and individually put power to each wire, spliced from there... this may help: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14655 (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14655)

httrdd
02-06-2010, 05:59 PM
I got it and mine are different. Once I took the connector apart I found this order for drivers side.
Top Left: City
Bottom Left: Low Beam
Top Right: Power
Bottom Right: High Beam

After all that I finally figued it out. Luckily the connector has four prongs that you can move with a small scewdriver. That means take them all out and clip them where they belong in order of how the connector in the car is.

I will update with passenger side.

02-06-2010, 06:31 PM
i just cut off the harness' and directly joined the wires..

glad you got it to work

makipsee
02-06-2010, 06:34 PM
by what u said i guess the connector is the same as mine just different color wire

httrdd
02-06-2010, 07:02 PM
The passenger side was the same. If you look at it it looks as if the connector wires were up side down. If you flip it it is right. They are both working now. The conenctor was mounted this way from the time I got them. These suckers are BRIGHT.

Perkul8r
02-21-2010, 01:05 PM
Just got my Projectors in last night using this DIY. Went great. Worked on the first try. It also helped that the jdm lights had the same wire colors as my car. But if not this write up had all the info i needed.

Sambo
03-26-2010, 02:55 AM
Thanks for the great write up ! this really saved me trying to figure it all out by myself! headlights worked on the first try ! i just have to figure out what i want to do with the city lights idk where to hook em up to or if i want them on a toggle

datdookie
04-08-2010, 11:01 PM
^+1, even though the day lights are very dim i want mines to stay on without having to turn on my headlights. Oh and is there a way to keep the corners on as well??

loganmossmusic
06-22-2010, 01:08 PM
I was a little confused when I did this, it seems that it happened to a couple people so far. The way to drastically simplify it is to take some jumpers of some kind, and hook them up to the battery, and attach to different wires on the headlights, to find out undoubtedly which wires control what. Made it a lot simpler for me.


Once you aim these things properly, you get some really really good light out of them. Definitely worth it.

LegacyB4nj
07-08-2010, 12:15 AM
i wired mine up but for some reason the high beams glow dimly when the low beams are on and vice versa, any help?

aurelius
08-04-2010, 05:45 AM
Are the low beams supposed to turn off when the high beams are turned on?

LiCelsior
08-04-2010, 07:41 AM
yes they are. unless u ground the low beam wire.

aurelius
08-04-2010, 12:02 PM
Alright they're working now. Looks pretty average to be honest...

LiCelsior
08-04-2010, 03:18 PM
i put in some 5k HIDs and the cutoff is quite good.

aurelius
08-04-2010, 10:39 PM
Well they currently have OEM globes in at the moment so that's why. My standard lights with nightbreakers are brighter than the projectors are.

What are the globe sizes/watts? cbf taking them out and want to order another set of nightbreakers ASAP

They also look average in the aesthetics department. I'm looking to orange the indicators.

anothernord
08-04-2010, 11:06 PM
Well they currently have OEM globes in at the moment so that's why. My standard lights with nightbreakers are brighter than the projectors are.

What are the globe sizes/watts? cbf taking them out and want to order another set of nightbreakers ASAP

They also look average in the aesthetics department. I'm looking to orange the indicators.

Odd, everyone in the U.S. hates the orange. We are glad to get rid of it. :lol:

1-3-2-4
09-26-2010, 04:51 PM
anyone else front parking lights stop working? Mine hasn't worked in a year

*edit

and brand new bulbs

09-26-2010, 06:31 PM
your ground come undone?

1-3-2-4
09-26-2010, 07:10 PM
Where is it? I grounded the bulb while in the socket and it still did not come

SOREN
10-06-2010, 06:14 PM
I tackled this myself last night. I've got a 1994 Legacy RS (Japan Spec) twin turbo. It's got crappy lights, so I got some projectors that some guy had converted to HID's.. and installed in his NADM legacy.

I figured out where all the wires that he'd cut from the harnessing system on the JDM light went to, and put them all back together. Coming out of my car, I've got:
Turn signal 2 wires (into 3 wire for the JDM) - just used the other JDM style bulb/housing - so no splicing/harness work there
City Lights 2 wires (currently running only one into one of the wires for the projector
Main light 3 wires (running into 4 for the JDM).

I hooked it up so that the blue wire on the JDM is not hooked up. Not too sure what I should do there - I'm going to experiment again tonight before it gets dark, I may be able to tap into that with my Citylights ... Perhaps run my City's into that blue wire that is currently connected to nothing..?

My main issue is the lack of city lights. The regular projector comes on for that, and when you switch to regular headlight, nothing changes.
So, because I'm not being too clear - the turn signals work, the hi-beams work, the regular lights work. City lights work, but only as regular, and I'd like them to be dimmer. I'm going to see tonight if I can fix this! :) I'll post solution if it works!

SOREN
10-09-2010, 07:20 PM
I installed the JDM projectors into a 1994 JDM twin turbo, and finally got it figured out, it's so easy, anyways - it took me a week, and should have taken me 30 minutes. Anyways here's a writeup that I did for another forum:
http://forums.jdmvip.com/Installing_JDM ... #post26811 (http://forums.jdmvip.com/Installing_JDM_projectors_into_JDM_legacy_Subaru_Legacy-2503-t#post26811)

This is really quite simple and really improve the look of your Leggy. The OEM lights on the imprezas are pretty good, and brightness isn't a problem if you buy the right bulbs, but on the legacy, no matter what I tried, they just were weak on the lo-beams.

I picked up my projectors for about 150 from a guy over here, but he brought them in from Japan. Generally I think you're looking at 150 to 230 with shipping for these guys.

The procedure is really easy, but I didn't know earlier this week, what I do now. A few moments where I overthought, and a few moments that were really screwy on the mind. I just couldn't get it figured out.

Regular JDM housing has:

3 lead turn signal[/*:m:f2g16a8i]
Regular 3 lead connection Hi/low beam[/*:m:f2g16a8i]
2 lead city (or DRL) lights[/*:m:f2g16a8i]
Projector housing has:

2 lead turn signal[/*:m:f2g16a8i]
Main 4 lead connection which run seperate lights:[/*:m:f2g16a8i]

Projectors (main low beam) - 2 leads[/*:m:f2g16a8i]
Hi-beams -2 leads[/*:m:f2g16a8i]
DRL or "city" lights - 2 leads[/*:m:f2g16a8i]

I'll post pics later, but it's actually really simple.

Removing the JDM regular lights:

Pop the hood[/*:m:f2g16a8i]
4 clips that require a screwdriver to pop them off for the grill. Press in the middle of each clip on the grill side - a lever will travel down towards the ground, freeing the clip on the car body (engine) side. Clips will remove with the grill.[/*:m:f2g16a8i]
remove the two top bolts (10mm) on the headlight[/*:m:f2g16a8i]
remove the bolt that the grill covered on the inside side of the light (opposite to the turn signal bulb and close to the rad)[/*:m:f2g16a8i]
pull the headlights out - the battery side light will be harder to remove likely[/*:m:f2g16a8i]
twist the housing on the turn signal and remove[/*:m:f2g16a8i]
twist the housing on the "city" or DRL light - this is a small little light - easy to miss - and remove[/*:m:f2g16a8i]
undo the 3 wire harness.[/*:m:f2g16a8i]

Prepping the JDM projectors:

Remove the signal light and city light as described above. Either tape up the city light on the backside of the headlight (we won't be using it here) or snip the 2 wires in a space where you could re-install if you need to later for whatever reason.[/*:m:f2g16a8i]
Remove the lead pins from the white 4 pin harness. You can do this with a jewlery screwdriver (flat blade) and a regular flat blade. Insert the jewelry screwdriver in the pin side towards the tab, and push really hard. The regular flat blade can be used in assisting to push the lead pins out.[/*:m:f2g16a8i]
Tape the blue wire up and back, leaving 3 wires to connect to your untouched harness on the car side.[/*:m:f2g16a8i]

The wiring is the worst part.. my main issue was that the colors don't match up or make sense (to me). I'd liken it to putting batteries in a device and being told to line up some of the batteries so that the flats touch, or the "nipples" touch. Really counter-intuitive.

First off, if you haven't guessed, you'll insert the driving light and turn signal light as is, no changes/prep required. All you need to do now is figure out which wires go in which place in the harness, and ensuring everything is taped up.

I didn't note which wires go where, but I can tell you that if you try to have red match up on both, you'll get totally screwed up! I had my drivers side hooked up as Red left, black top and white right. This seemed correct, but ended up being screwy once I tried to hook up the passenger side. The best information I can give you at this point is to mention how these work, and it'll help you figure out how to put it together. I'd recommend that you have a buddy with you to check settings, and ensure that they are familiar with what each setting needs to be. Check the lights by having the car on, make sure the key is clicked all the way to on - you don't need to start it though.
Figure out what lights you have selected (regular or low beams) and start connecting to the harness. Grab the harness on the car side, holding it like an upside-down T and the pin lead holes are facing you. I believe that the left position on the harness is the ground, the top middle is the lo beam and the right side is the highbeam. Try the extreme left and right position when hibeams are turned on, and note which two work for the hi (non-projector) lights, and remember this. Try plugging the remaining lead in the top position, and switch to regular lights. If you're set, then great, if not, switch the extreme left and right leads and try again. Guess and test till you get it right, and don't install the lights/grill until you've done both lights. It's totally possible to have one light working, install the other one, and not be able to have it work perfectly. I had this, once I put in the battery side, no matter what I did, regulars came on as 80% hi-beams, and 10% projectors, high's worked perfectly.

I believe that there is a 12V power, a Hi beam ground and a lo-beam ground.

I'll post pics later, and maybe they'll help too. This is an easy mod that really makes your leggy look like a million bucks.

TbirdMan
04-25-2011, 08:22 PM
Just thought i would throw my .02 in as to how i went about this mod. I made an adapter harness, so i wouldn't have to modify the stock harness or the JDM light harness. I started by removing the bulbs from the OEM 9004 bases, this left me with something the OEM harness would plug into and convenient places on the other side to solder the wires. I then cut up my OEM 3 wire turn/side marker light bases to get at the conductors inside for the same purpose. My JDM lights came with both sides of the plugs with short pigtails on them, so I wired the OEM adapter side to these and viola, it worked. I maintained the JDM wiring for the DRL and single filament turn signals rather than swap to the dual style out of personal preference. I like this because if i need to i can either swap back to stock or replace the JDM lights and it is plug and play. this also gives me a convenient place to wire in my "turn Assist" light circuit (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=21561) for my JDM fogs.

redlegacygt
04-29-2011, 10:40 AM
anybody wire the JDM turn signal connector (2wire) in into the USDM turn signal harness (3wire)? If so, which 2 wires are combined, or which wire is left out?

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/04/IMG00026201104290835-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/04/IMG00027201104290835-1.jpg

TbirdMan
04-29-2011, 09:56 PM
I don't recall the exact colors, but the turn signal wire should be green, that goes with the JDM 2 plug along with the ground. the other light (marker light) I wired to the JDM "Driving light" in the main unit. or you can do like the OP and mod the USDM 3 wire bulb base to fit in the JDM housing. when in doubt you can either find a wiring diagram or break out the trusty old Volt meter.

redlegacygt
04-30-2011, 03:11 PM
I don't recall the exact colors, but the turn signal wire should be green, that goes with the JDM 2 plug along with the ground. the other light (marker light) I wired to the JDM "Driving light" in the main unit. or you can do like the OP and mod the USDM 3 wire bulb base to fit in the JDM housing. when in doubt you can either find a wiring diagram or break out the trusty old Volt meter.


see thats the problem. I have a USDM one but there's something wrong with it. It causes the light to blink too fast. I even changed it out with the socket from the other side and it worked fine. So it has to be the turn signal. So my options are find another USDM socket, or wire in these JDM 2 wire connectors and use the JDM sockets.

TbirdMan
04-30-2011, 04:37 PM
hmm, i see, sounds like there is a short in the base. I wired my lights using the JDM 2 wire bases like you describe, you need to wire the black and light green ones to the turn signal, and the other one either don't wire in, or wire it to the "city light" on the main headlight unit. If you have a small screw driver you may even be able to just pull the pins out of the 3 pin plug and swap them into the two pin.

redlegacygt
04-30-2011, 06:10 PM
hmm, i see, sounds like there is a short in the base. I wired my lights using the JDM 2 wire bases like you describe, you need to wire the black and light green ones to the turn signal, and the other one either don't wire in, or wire it to the "city light" on the main headlight unit. If you have a small screw driver you may even be able to just pull the pins out of the 3 pin plug and swap them into the two pin.

sounds good man. Thanks for the help. i really appreciate it!

Lachrymologist
05-14-2011, 07:10 PM
I was a little confused when I did this, it seems that it happened to a couple people so far. The way to drastically simplify it is to take some jumpers of some kind, and hook them up to the battery, and attach to different wires on the headlights, to find out undoubtedly which wires control what. Made it a lot simpler for me.


Once you aim these things properly, you get some really really good light out of them. Definitely worth it.
I plan on doing this, how exactly did you hook everything up. Positive terminal to the various wires? And negative terminal to metal screw on the headlights? I just tried that as well as running the neg cable from my chassis to a screw on the headlights with no luck.

Lord_Anarchy
06-02-2011, 02:38 AM
Sorry for the old thread restart but I just wanted to thank Warrior for the info. Just got my JDM projectors in with a nice 6000K HID lighting... Superior to the yellowing garbage on my USDM stockers.

LegacyB4nj
08-30-2011, 12:34 AM
Sorry for another old thread restart lol. I'm a complete idiot with wiring. I've had mine done for about a year now and I just got around to ordering 2 sets of hid's. 3000k highs and 6000k lows. I saw Warrior mentioned that he did an hid setup on his jdm projectors. Is there anyone who can give me some info or anything? I'm trying to do an overhaul this month since my car has looked terrible for way too long. I'll take whatever help I can get!

mrpyb
09-18-2011, 02:47 AM
I think I'm having the same problems that others have had, but I haven't been able to find a solution. When it is just my low beams on the high beam bulb is on very dimly and even the high beam light on the dash inside is on dimly. Could this be a bad ground or just bad wiring on my part?
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/Photo0273-1.jpg

harrymaneuvers
09-18-2011, 11:53 AM
Bad wiring on your part.


Elislider did this when he wired his ... I am pretty sure I did it too... I beleive that you have the low beam and power wires swapped.

From his members ride thread:

"so anyone else have this problem? on the jdm headlights the lows are both the low and high bulb and they are REALLY dim. then when i switch to high beams it goes to the normal high beams and it seems normal. im thinking i may have accidentally switched something? or if someone else has experienced this then tips would be great"

Answer:

"alright I figured it out. for some reason the JDM Projector DIY thread had the power and low ground switched on the jdm plug as compared to mine. once i switched those everything is normal. i still need to tap into the corner light steady current or ground or whatever for power to the marker light"

quader94
09-18-2011, 02:05 PM
thank you so much!!!!

I installed HID's the same time I installed the JDM headlights. There is very little to do for the HIDs, it is almost plug and play.
You need to do a few things: ( I used DDM's H1 35 watt slim ballast kit so every kit may have some variation )

I did this with the headlight sitting on my kitchen table.
1: Unscrew and Drill the lowbeam cap so you can run the HID wires out. ( put this aside for now)
2: The original wires that powered the lowbeam you need to take and color match them to the HID kit. The hid kit has connectors, you push the original wires in and I wrapped the whole connector in electrical tape to be safe.
3: When putting the HID bulb in, I spun the metal thing that holds the bulb in place 180 degrees. It wouldnt reach the other side if I had not done this.
4: Feed wires through the lowbeam cap and make sure the seal is on both sides of the cap
5: Install headlight on car then you connect the matching wires and ballast.
4: You're done.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/09/5af5g8-1.jpg

mrpyb
09-18-2011, 06:02 PM
Bad wiring on your part.

thank you! I'll swap the wires around and see if that fixes it!

Baddog
02-10-2012, 12:47 AM
So I am having a problem too. Followed the DIY. But to no avail it doesn't work properly I have it working enough to drive at night. When the low beams are on they seems to be fairly bright but the high beam is on fairly dimly. Then when you switch to high beams they work like they should and the projector (low beam) is on dimly. What did I do? Tried a few different combos and just got frustrated. Wiring is not something I do.

I did use the JDM connector/Pigtail.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/02/20120209_205942-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/02/20120209_212350-1.jpg

subikid90
02-10-2012, 10:12 AM
PM'd you on lgt.com

harrymaneuvers
02-10-2012, 10:16 AM
Bad wiring on your part.


Elislider did this when he wired his ... I am pretty sure I did it too... I beleive that you have the low beam and power wires swapped.

From his members ride thread:

"so anyone else have this problem? on the jdm headlights the lows are both the low and high bulb and they are REALLY dim. then when i switch to high beams it goes to the normal high beams and it seems normal. im thinking i may have accidentally switched something? or if someone else has experienced this then tips would be great"

Answer:

"alright I figured it out. for some reason the JDM Projector DIY thread had the power and low ground switched on the jdm plug as compared to mine. once i switched those everything is normal. i still need to tap into the corner light steady current or ground or whatever for power to the marker light"

mrpyb
02-10-2012, 01:22 PM
Be sure you check both sides too. I had the same problem and the wiring was only bad on one side. When I fixed it both sides worked normally!

harrymaneuvers
02-10-2012, 01:25 PM
^this.

Baddog
02-11-2012, 12:00 AM
Be sure you check both sides too. I had the same problem and the wiring was only bad on one side. When I fixed it both sides worked normally!

This was the issue. Had a wire that needed to be swapped with another wire on the passenger side. All is well!

bulldozer24
02-11-2012, 11:15 PM
good to hear, now enjoy not having reflectors!

RubySuby97
03-10-2012, 04:39 PM
So I have heard people saying they bought 2 H4 male wiring connecters and used them to wire up the projectors so it would be plug and play, BUT wouldnt that mean the projector would have both low and high beams since thats the way the car is wired?

Or is is that you get the 2 male ends, then wire those ends for the h1 and h3 bulbs??

I am sorry if this was already answered.

Dead91silvia
03-10-2012, 08:21 PM
So I have heard people saying they bought 2 H4 male wiring connecters and used them to wire up the projectors so it would be plug and play, BUT wouldnt that mean the projector would have both low and high beams since thats the way the car is wired?

Or is is that you get the 2 male ends, then wire those ends for the h1 and h3 bulbs??

I am sorry if this was already answered.


If you wire them with the same color coded wire, they will work like USDM light. You just wont have city lights... bulbs dont matter. All USDM Legacys have 3 wires going to the head lights. JDM projectors have 4. Leave off the one RED wire and wire up the rest...

geckoboy86
03-15-2012, 09:02 AM
Ok...So...To get both low and high beam on at the same time, I have to ground the low beam to the chassis from the headlight....What do i do with the harness side low beam ground?

geckoboy86
03-18-2012, 08:20 AM
Bump.

RubySuby97
03-22-2012, 10:58 PM
So I have heard people saying they bought 2 H4 male wiring connecters and used them to wire up the projectors so it would be plug and play, BUT wouldnt that mean the projector would have both low and high beams since thats the way the car is wired?

Or is is that you get the 2 male ends, then wire those ends for the h1 and h3 bulbs??

I am sorry if this was already answered.


If you wire them with the same color coded wire, they will work like USDM light. You just wont have city lights... bulbs dont matter. All USDM Legacys have 3 wires going to the head lights. JDM projectors have 4. Leave off the one RED wire and wire up the rest...

Well I wish I just wired it straight up, instead I am doing HID's in the projectors. How do I get it from the 3 wire OEM wire harness, to the H1 HID's? In other words how do I split it from the 3 wire OEM to a two bulb system if that makes sense.

Dead91silvia
03-23-2012, 04:28 AM
Umm... The JDM projectors are a 2 bulb system. The USDM is a single. If you wire the lights up proper, without wiring the city lights in, it wont matter.

If your getting a kit, the kit should tell you how to do it. The projectors shouldn't be any different then the stock USDM lights at all. They run the same color wires JDM and USDM.... The JDM harness does the splite for you on the harness. There is a RED wire for the city lights, ignore it and wire the rest.

RubySuby97
03-24-2012, 06:33 PM
Ok I got it figured out. Was having bit of a brain fart sorry about that. They work and I am happy! Looks good, we will see how they look at night to really tell the difference. Thanks for all your help folks!

maddoc
04-09-2012, 03:24 PM
So those that wired in HIDs as well - you just bought H1 kits? Is there anything that has an H1 HID to H4 wiring?

sukaboy
06-09-2012, 01:13 PM
This was a great write up. Thanks guys for posting.
I finally had enough of my cloudy USDM lights and got a set of JDMs with harnesses and bulbs all working, and installed them the other day.

Using this write up as my guide.
I got my JDM's installed yesterday and it took some tracing of the wires to the right bulbs but it's pretty easy.

My JDMs had the harness, lucky for me, since this really simplifies wiring. You only have to deal with 4 leads instead of the entire assembly.
But I had messed up the wiring on my first attempt, and then I took it apart and traced all the wires to figure out which lead was low beam, which were high beam and which was the city. Once you know which lead goes where, it's straightforward.

I used the same 3 wire pigtail harness and hooked up the power, low and high beam leads.

Kept everything plug and play so if I needed to go back to my old USDMs (which were so cloudy, I doubt I would reinstall them) I could do that. Except for the signal light which on the JDMs is a 2 wire harness on the USDM it's a 3 wire. Black and white/colour strip are the flasher, red is for the parking light.

I did what some others did and wired this red wire from the parking light to the LED city light lead on the JDM harness.

I still need to adjust the high beam to point more to the right. I only adjusted the projector lights.
I'll probably take out the fogs and try to clean them up with an aftermarket product to make them clear again.
Anyone got any suggestions?
It looks awesome at night.

sukaboy
06-10-2012, 06:26 AM
I just realized something.
Did most people re-use their USDM bulb and harness in the JDM?
And just trimmed off the one tab so the bulb fits?
Can we get the JDM signal bulb here? (I'm in Toronto, Can).

I didn't even try to see if I could put in the USDM socket and bulb into the JDM.
If I do it this way, at least the signal lights are on when I switch the parking lights on.

btw. how do you attach images to a post?

sukaboy
06-10-2012, 08:24 PM
[quote="redlegacygt"]anybody wire the JDM turn signal connector (2wire) in into the USDM turn signal harness (3wire)? If so, which 2 wires are combined, or which wire is left out?

I did on my first version. On the USDM there is a BLACK, and a White/Red Stripe and a RED wire
To wire the JDM signal light. Connect the BLACK on the JDM to the BLACK wire on the USDM
then connect the White/with stripe on the JDM to the WHITE/RED Stripe on the USDM.

The RED is for the USDM signal light to remain lit when you turn on the parking light or headlights on.
This I connected to the city light on the JDM (that's the LED light, it has the smallest gauge RED wire if you have the JDM 4 wire harness)

I initially did it this way.
Then I re-wired it with the USDM connector and spliced a wire from the RED wire on the USDM signal light and connected it to the JDM City light RED wire (smallest guage).

Somebody had put up a wiring diagram. This what I followed.
http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3383480

98legwag
07-02-2012, 09:55 AM
Did this yesterday. Great write up.

98legwag
09-21-2012, 08:17 PM
Eric the Car Guy installed projectors on his 97 wagon. He wired the city lights as running/parking lights and the corners are just turn signals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX026M1DdrE