New thread for intake maniold thermal spacers (Group Buy)

[Reason]

I had to make a new poll to get a better idea what would need to be made or ordered. I will see if there is interest on other Legacy forums. Please only vote if you plan on ordering a set. 20+ will be $49.99

Here is the old thread for anyone new coming into it.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?t=6427

Here is the thread of discussion that which started this GB

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?t=6420

[tekkitan]

come on! let's get 20+ people so we can get a real nice deal :)

[Reason]

Can anyone confirm that the 2.2 NA and 22T use the same intake manifold gasket or not?

[2.5GT]

Im game. I need this quick before i run out of money :lol:

[warrior]

uh.. I don't know what phase my engine is :oops:

[Reason]

Phase 1 are DOHC Phase 2 are SOHC

[2.5GT]

holy shit, i voted wrong :lol: ...whoops my bad. I have a phase I then right? its a '98.

[subba]

i dont think they have 2.0 Sohc Legacies i can be wrong.

EDIT: Ooops :-? Just saw the poll questions, My Bad

[Reason]

If it's a DOHC they make them.

[tekkitan]

holy shit, i voted wrong :lol: ...whoops my bad. I have a phase I then right? its a '98.

cars101.com will tell you :)

http://www.cars101.com/subaru_legacy_archive98_99.html

[Reason]

I think he is going to make 20 of them. I just confirmed the part number for the gasket that he will use as a templet. So if you want in let me know I will start a list and take money orders when tooling begins. I may even just have him come over so I don't have to handle any money, I prefer not to.

[2.5GT]

any updates?

[Reason]

Yes, if you can through some of the spam accounts you will notice that Grimmspeed is a new member :smile:

[GrimmSpeed]

ok i finally got a chance to post over here...sorry it took me a few days, so dang busy.

a little status update about these:

my CAD guy just got done with the new layouts so i will be sending them in to get cut tomorrow. 3 week turnaround once i get the designs to the cutters.

We will be making the following:

1998 DOHC 2.5L NA "phase 1" - subaru oem gasket no. 14035AA281
93-99 1.8/2.2 engines - subaru oem gasket no. 14035AA290
99+ 2.5 NA "phase 2" - subaru oem gasket no. 14035AA383

i know most of the leggies/imprezas fit into those categories.

Justin
www.grimmspeed.com (http://www.grimmspeed.com)

[tekkitan]

sweeet!

[2.5GT]

awesome, I'd be down for a set.

[2.5GT]

when can we order a set?

[GrimmSpeed]

status update

the CAD drawings we sent off yesterday so i should have a sample in my hands in ~10 days. Once i get the sample and give the a ok to make the rest, it usually is about 2 week turnaround.

[2.5GT]

Good to know, keep us updated! :razz:

[auspex]

god, I know I'm gonna feel lame for not jumping in on the group buy, but I know soooo little about these things I'm weary of the benefit.

-mike

[GrimmSpeed]

god, I know I'm gonna feel lame for not jumping in on the group buy, but I know soooo little about these things I'm weary of the benefit.

-mike

we have some info from a guy that is very versed in phenolic spacers up on our site if you want to read up on it.

check it out here:
http://www.grimmspeed.com/catalog/produ ... ucts_id=41 (http://www.grimmspeed.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23&products_id=41)

[tekkitan]

doesn't the intake manifold act as a heatsink for the engine though? so that means if you install this spacer, won't the engine heat up faster? or is it not a significant amount that will cause any kind of damage?

regardless i think i will buy one since it's cheaper in group buy and i want to try it out :)

[warrior]

doesn't the intake manifold act as a heatsink for the engine though? so that means if you install this spacer, won't the engine heat up faster? or is it not a significant amount that will cause any kind of damage?

regardless i think i will buy one since it's cheaper in group buy and i want to try it out :)

Your engine heating up has nothing to do with your intake manifold. It has to do with your thermostat that stays closed so coolant cannot pass through to cool the engine.. but you already knew that :lol:

[Wiscon_Mark]

JD is right, your engine maintains it's temp by using the cooling system, not by a bunch of heatsinks.

[Reason]

I hope these will be the 8mm "triple thick" spacers.

[auspex]

all right, I'm in....
'
-mike

[tekkitan]

doesn't the intake manifold act as a heatsink for the engine though? so that means if you install this spacer, won't the engine heat up faster? or is it not a significant amount that will cause any kind of damage?

regardless i think i will buy one since it's cheaper in group buy and i want to try it out :)

Your engine heating up has nothing to do with your intake manifold. It has to do with your thermostat that stays closed so coolant cannot pass through to cool the engine.. but you already knew that :lol:

I'm not saying that because there is a spacer there that my engine will overheat. But if you think about it the manifold acts as a heatsink (whether it was meant to be one or not).

i'm just speculating, no need to get smart :P

still buying one

[GrimmSpeed]

I hope these will be the 8mm "triple thick" spacers.

we'll stick with the 3mm for now...they seem to work well. if you guys would really want the 8mm its going to take a bit longer because i'll have to get the correct longer IM bolts as well.

[Reason]

ahhh!! I would rather have the 8mm. That's what we put in my friends maxima and they work great. In my had I rather have more of that material, plus I want to increase the intake manifold volume.

[GrimmSpeed]

ahhh!! I would rather have the 8mm. That's what we put in my friends maxima and they work great. In my had I rather have more of that material, plus I want to increase the intake manifold volume.

how much thicker do you think we could make it without having to use longer IM bolts? sorry..dont have a spare gc IM and head sitting around me right now.

[GrimmSpeed]

alright reason...you got lucky....

the phenolic material supplier had already cut the sheets for us in the 3mm sizing...well i got them to take the hit and hook is up with some of the thicker 8mm material!!

the change is going to delay things a little bit but we'll get them. if you wanted them sooner you can blame reason for wanting thicker spacers :lol:

[Reason]

Jusin I get in enough trouble alone on here, I don't need your help lol Thats great though, I can't wait to get these (even though I don't have a Legacy lol)

Since I had to claw and tooth Justin to get us the thicker spacers I think everyone who joins the group buy should put a few dollars towards mine, it's just a thought :wink:

[GrimmSpeed]

update

i'll have the 3 different designs in hand tomorrow and will need to test fit them to make sure the CAD drawings were perfect. i told the guys that the sl-i guys were waiting for them so they said instead of their usual 3 week turnaround the could get them done in a week!!!


Justin

[Reason]

Score, who ever is going to order a set get your money straight!

[2.5GT]

Score, who ever is going to order a set get your money straight!

so whats the official price and shipping?

[Lemanschamp]

well you can count me in on a set of the 8mm. Unless you need the money in the next two or three days.

[Reason]

Score, who ever is going to order a set get your money straight!

so whats the official price and shipping?

Justin will have to fill you in on that.

[GrimmSpeed]

have the samples in hand. going to fit on each of the 3 engines tomorrow and this weekend to ensure fit ment and then we'll be golden.


as for pricing, our 2.0/2.5 turbo 8mm spacers are 84.99 and include 8 longer IM bolts. the retail on these will be the same and then we'll start knocking down the price from there for the group buy...obviously the more people the lower the price is in the GB. i need to hurry up an source some longer IM bolts for these as well as they are different than the 2.0/2.5 bolts.

Justin

[Reason]

Can you find bolts that will allow the spacer with 2 OEM gaskets for each side?

[GrimmSpeed]

Can you find bolts that will allow the spacer with 2 OEM gaskets for each side?

yeah i just have to get ahold of my rep at the supplier which i failed at doing on friday. i'll have to chat with him monday.

[GrimmSpeed]

ok 2 out of the 3 spacers are in guys and they look great! the 3rd spacer should be in in about a week as with the bolts. i am going to start the official group buy thread now.

Justin

[Reason]

WooHooo!! I guess I should go buy another Legacy then.

[GrimmSpeed]

you can never have enought subarus :grin:

[Reason]

Come on guys, the group buy started. 15 people said they wanted them, lets get your orders in.

[Reason]

Score, who ever is going to order a set get your money straight!

so whats the official price and shipping?

Get on it...

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?t=6812

[voorhees]

can you tell me if you have them for 2.2L 30Anniversary Edition.
It is a phase 2 2.2(single port header)

[Wiscon_Mark]

The single port exhaust shouldn't affect the intake manifold design, but it's possible it's a bit different because it's phase II.

[Reason]

What year Impreza uses the same engine?

[Wiscon_Mark]

All of them. Exact same EJ22 throughout the years between the Legacy and Impreza.

[Wiscon_Mark]

I hope you don't mind Shane, but I removed the sticky since we have an official buying thread now, and we have way too many stickys in this forum :wink:

[Reason]

That's fine Mark, just keep pushing the spacers lol

[Tall BG5]

I'm in, phase 1 DOHC,just tell me when you need the $$$

[Wiscon_Mark]

I'm in, phase 1 DOHC,just tell me when you need the $$$

Please go to the official thread in the Vendor Group Buys forum.

Money will be collected (prices are listed) when the group buy is finalized.