Intercooler

[Sarra]

Is it possible to put a TMIC on an EJ25D and have it clear the hood? I'm about to bid on a stock 2003 WRX TMIC, but I don't want it if it don't fit.

[rougeben83]

It depends more on the chassis, not the engine. On a BD, I think the WRX fits fine.

BE's dont however...firewall's much closer to the TB.

[Sarra]

No difference between the BD and BK, so I'll go ahead and bid.

How is the TMIC mounted to the WRX, and can I use that mounting system to mount it to my BK's intake manifold?

Or would it just be easier to do a freaking FMIC on this car? OR, should I go with an AWIC?

[rougeben83]

Mounting points are indeed different. Though you can probably just bend up some new brackets to accomodate the TMIC pretty easily.

[Sarra]

Does it mount to the intake manifold? If so, I could just grab an EJ20 intake... But, I don't want to change too many things on this, so I might just bend a few things.

[Reason]

I have a FXT TMIC that will clear your firewall no problem. It also is for sale

[Sarra]

If this WRX IC goes over $40 shipped, I'll PM you for details. This is a budget thing for me, I gotta spend wisely.

[2.5GT]

I also have one with the Y hose and BOV :grin:

[StatGSR]

the simple answer is no. we had a wrx TM to go on grayguys BD and it did not fit. using the stock 2.5 IM i just dont think its guna happen cause the y pipe wouldnt fit for beans.

[rad rex]

I have a V2 slanty IC for sale that will definately fit if you are interested

[Sarra]

One problem is the BOV/bypass valve. I don't need it. I could use it as a pop off valve, but I don't really want that either.

I'm gonna think more about this, I'm gonna need another paycheck too. The FXT IC is really tempting, but I don't think I could afford more than dirt cheap (the IC I was going to bid on sold for $56 shipped).

Ninja edit: Would it be possible to flip the intake manifold? I'm assuming no for clearance reasons.

[Wiscon_Mark]

If you're talking about mounting it on an EJ25D, an FMIC would be a complete waste - you won't be able to run enough PSI to justify all that extra piping.

[rougeben83]

One problem is the BOV/bypass valve. I don't need it. I could use it as a pop off valve, but I don't really want that either.

I'm gonna think more about this, I'm gonna need another paycheck too. The FXT IC is really tempting, but I don't think I could afford more than dirt cheap (the IC I was going to bid on sold for $56 shipped).

Ninja edit: Would it be possible to flip the intake manifold? I'm assuming no for clearance reasons.

Either use a block off plate or get a stock subbie bpv (sometimes those come with the IC)

[Sarra]

If you're talking about mounting it on an EJ25D, an FMIC would be a complete waste - you won't be able to run enough PSI to justify all that extra piping.

Wait, what? PSI? What's that?



One problem is the BOV/bypass valve. I don't need it. I could use it as a pop off valve, but I don't really want that either.

I'm gonna think more about this, I'm gonna need another paycheck too. The FXT IC is really tempting, but I don't think I could afford more than dirt cheap (the IC I was going to bid on sold for $56 shipped).

Ninja edit: Would it be possible to flip the intake manifold? I'm assuming no for clearance reasons.

Either use a block off plate or get a stock subbie bpv (sometimes those come with the IC)

Well, it comes with the stock bpv, which I don't need. Though, could I use the BPV as a pop off valve? A possible way to prevent the piping from blowing off in an unlikely overboost event?

And Mark, I'm gonna do a frankenmotor. It will get a few PSI of boost, I just gotta find a cheap freaking block first.

[Piddster]

This is coming with BC experience, but it should be similar for a BD. The ignitor needs to be moved. Its in the way, simple as that. On an SS, the compressor outlet sits a bit different, so the y-pipe need to be modified. Not the end of the world. Also, a slight readjustment of tghe firewall may be n order utilizing a BFH.


They can be made to fit though.

[Sarra]

Can the Y pipe be modded? And I was wondering what the point of the Y was anyway.

I'm going to go source a block tomorrow, so we'll see what happens. If I can't find a cheap block, then... Well, I dunno. I want to get the block before getting anything else, really. if I can't find a decent EJ22E block local, I'm gonna just say 'screw it' and grab a 257 block, which means this build will be on hold for a while. D:

Speaking of manifold, can I swap my BK intake manifold for an STi intake without having to modify or change anything else?

[StatGSR]

^nope cant just swap to a turbo manifold....

[rougeben83]

Can the Y pipe be modded? And I was wondering what the point of the Y was anyway.

I'm going to go source a block tomorrow, so we'll see what happens. If I can't find a cheap block, then... Well, I dunno. I want to get the block before getting anything else, really. if I can't find a decent EJ22E block local, I'm gonna just say 'screw it' and grab a 257 block, which means this build will be on hold for a while. D:

Speaking of manifold, can I swap my BK intake manifold for an STi intake without having to modify or change anything else?

Ok, well what turbo do you plan to run anway? He only mentioned that because the older turbo setup on the SS points in a different direction vs. the TD04 of the WRX.

Also, re; your previous question, you can run the stock BPV open, it'll just let off at the stock psi level, around 14psi. You can get a recirculating BOV that can route 0% to 100% of the released air back into the intake.

[Sarra]

Can the Y pipe be modded? And I was wondering what the point of the Y was anyway.

I'm going to go source a block tomorrow, so we'll see what happens. If I can't find a cheap block, then... Well, I dunno. I want to get the block before getting anything else, really. if I can't find a decent EJ22E block local, I'm gonna just say 'screw it' and grab a 257 block, which means this build will be on hold for a while. D:

Speaking of manifold, can I swap my BK intake manifold for an STi intake without having to modify or change anything else?

Ok, well what turbo do you plan to run anway? He only mentioned that because the older turbo setup on the SS points in a different direction vs. the TD04 of the WRX.

Also, re; your previous question, you can run the stock BPV open, it'll just let off at the stock psi level, around 14psi. You can get a recirculating BOV that can route 0% to 100% of the released air back into the intake.

I won't need a BOV, nor will I need a recirc setup, as I already have one.

[AJM]

Eww tDo4's :lol:



A small FMIC might work fine.

Very small. I have a pciture of mine if you;d like to see it.

[Reason]

This build won't be successful. I see a few key words that throw up a red flag. Cheap, inexpensive, and can't afford. $56 shipped on a IC and that's too much? IF you do get all the parts for this build I don't see it lasting long. For a build like this you have to have quality parts and not just piece it together with crap. Take your time and get what you need, don't rush and get crap and slap it together.

[Sarra]

This build won't be successful. I see a few key words that throw up a red flag. Cheap, inexpensive, and can't afford. $56 shipped on a IC and that's too much? IF you do get all the parts for this build I don't see it lasting long. For a build like this you have to have quality parts and not just piece it together with crap. Take your time and get what you need, don't rush and get crap and slap it together.

Eh, I'm not going to do something stupid. I'm going to pay for premium EM, probably an Accessport, which isn't cheap. The IC isn't necessary for this build, nor is meth injection. I am going to run a Walbro fuel pump, as well as STi rails and injectors. The budget is going to the necessary bits, anything extra... Well, if I can find a cheap TMIC, I'll grab it. If not, it's not a serious deal.

Though you might be right. I may be ditching this project and going back to school, this time in something I enjoy and would pay well with just a 2 year program.

[Huffer]

The Accessport will only work on genuine WRX/STi ECU's. AP's aren't standalone EM's...

[Wiscon_Mark]

Eww tDo4's :lol:



A small FMIC might work fine.

Very small. I have a pciture of mine if you;d like to see it.

It's not the FMIC's extra size that concerns me, that'd be a bonus for any turbo, it's all the extra piping that doesn't make it worth it with a small turbo setup.

[Sarra]

Eww tDo4's :lol:



A small FMIC might work fine.

Very small. I have a pciture of mine if you;d like to see it.

It's not the FMIC's extra size that concerns me, that'd be a bonus for any turbo, it's all the extra piping that doesn't make it worth it with a small turbo setup.

Who said anything about a small turbo? I'm planning on running 12-15 psi,
especially with a low CR and lots of fuel. if the block will physically take it, I'm going to aim for more as well, but I'm not going to be greedy with it.

I'm still trying to figure out EM, that is one area where I'm still a n00b. I'm going to build the engine myself, assembling the block and heads. There's a really kickass guy at a shop that's local, Dave at MPV, and he has been working Subies for a long time. Says he has been itching to do a 2.2 shortblock + 2.5 DOHC heads.

Once the longblock is assembled, the block and all of the other goodies are going to be mocked up, for fitment. Once everything is good, the engine is going to be loaded up into the back of my car, and it will be driven up to Bend, where All Wheels Driven will install it, tune it, and make any changes to keep this thing safe and running properly.

This isn't going to get thrown together in a weekend. Dave stated that he thinks a custom gasket is going to need to be made, so I'll start there. Then, I'll start work, and tackle things one problem at a time until it's ready to be stuffed under the hood of my GT. :cool:

[AJM]

Eww tDo4's :lol:



A small FMIC might work fine.

Very small. I have a pciture of mine if you;d like to see it.

It's not the FMIC's extra size that concerns me, that'd be a bonus for any turbo, it's all the extra piping that doesn't make it worth it with a small turbo setup.

Who said anything about a small turbo? I'm planning on running 12-15 psi,
especially with a low CR and lots of fuel. if the block will physically take it, I'm going to aim for more as well, but I'm not going to be greedy with it.

I'm still trying to figure out EM, that is one area where I'm still a n00b. I'm going to build the engine myself, assembling the block and heads. There's a really kickass guy at a shop that's local, Dave at MPV, and he has been working Subies for a long time. Says he has been itching to do a 2.2 shortblock + 2.5 DOHC heads.

Once the longblock is assembled, the block and all of the other goodies are going to be mocked up, for fitment. Once everything is good, the engine is going to be loaded up into the back of my car, and it will be driven up to Bend, where All Wheels Driven will install it, tune it, and make any changes to keep this thing safe and running properly.

This isn't going to get thrown together in a weekend. Dave stated that he thinks a custom gasket is going to need to be made, so I'll start there. Then, I'll start work, and tackle things one problem at a time until it's ready to be stuffed under the hood of my GT. :cool:


OOOOOH OOOH OWNED :lol:



Sounds good. You must tell me how it turns out. :grin:

[Sarra]

Eww tDo4's :lol:



A small FMIC might work fine.

Very small. I have a pciture of mine if you;d like to see it.

It's not the FMIC's extra size that concerns me, that'd be a bonus for any turbo, it's all the extra piping that doesn't make it worth it with a small turbo setup.

Who said anything about a small turbo? I'm planning on running 12-15 psi,
especially with a low CR and lots of fuel. if the block will physically take it, I'm going to aim for more as well, but I'm not going to be greedy with it.

I'm still trying to figure out EM, that is one area where I'm still a n00b. I'm going to build the engine myself, assembling the block and heads. There's a really kickass guy at a shop that's local, Dave at MPV, and he has been working Subies for a long time. Says he has been itching to do a 2.2 shortblock + 2.5 DOHC heads.

Once the longblock is assembled, the block and all of the other goodies are going to be mocked up, for fitment. Once everything is good, the engine is going to be loaded up into the back of my car, and it will be driven up to Bend, where All Wheels Driven will install it, tune it, and make any changes to keep this thing safe and running properly.

This isn't going to get thrown together in a weekend. Dave stated that he thinks a custom gasket is going to need to be made, so I'll start there. Then, I'll start work, and tackle things one problem at a time until it's ready to be stuffed under the hood of my GT. :cool:


OOOOOH OOOH OWNED :lol:



Sounds good. You must tell me how it turns out. :grin:

There will be video, I promise. :lol:

[Wiscon_Mark]

12-15 PSI is a lot? ha!

A stock STi runs @ 15psi and gets by fine with its TMIC. Really, FMIC territory is more like 20psi.

[Jedi Taxi]

MAN! i've been wanting to build that combo up for some time too! Turbos here we come! slap a t3/t4 hybrid turbo,a evo3 16g, or even two TD05 14bs on that bitch! that and with the proper electronics, it should turn out great! granted you will probably have to run it with some very tricky eletrical work too make sure it doesn't all go in vain because of the stock comp saying "im gay and im gonna ADVANCE the ignition timing DESPITE the great boost and despite the other controllers telling me to do other wise! DURRR!!" damn it subaru, why do you have to mess with us enthusiasts like this... :-(

[grayguy]

You defiently can't get the stock WRX TMIC in there. trust me. AS for the FMIC, my piping is only like 4-5 feet, 2.5in pipe. I don't think it's that big of a deal. Then again I'm starting out at 12-15 psi and hopefully getting up to 20+ psi when I can afford a PPG geared tranny.

[The_Paynter]

i would highly recommend not going FMIC unless ur going with a big turbo. In my GC8 i have a Version 7 engine with a VF22 turbo running at 24PSI and i have a FMIC but the lag is incredibly annoying. you dont need a FMIC untill you get a something BIG for a turbo (FP green, GT30R, 20G TD06h etc..)

[Sarra]

Lag isn't going to be a problem...