1996 Subaru Legacy Question !!! please help

[cvc7chris]

OKay my uncle sells me his 1996 Subaru Legacy Wagon 5 speed AWD

it's white and it's BRIGHTON EDITION some tell me what that means

its a 2.2L

here it is
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/10/DSC06888-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/10/DSC06889-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/10/DSC06890-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/10/DSC06891-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/10/DSC06892-1.jpg

it's a Good car with only 96k

here my current car
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/10/DSC06887-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/10/DSC06893-1.jpg
it's a 93 accord lx 5 speed

i was a member at CB7TUNER.com which is for 4th gen accords

and imagine a legacy like this
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/10/legacy-1.jpg

[MCarp22]

it's white and it's BRIGHTON EDITION some tell me what that means

It means BASE MODEL ok sorry you don't get a tach

white is cool

[cvc7chris]

Couldn't i ADD A TACH ?

would it be easy ?

[Reason]

Couldn't i ADD A TACH ?

would it be easy ?

Someone on here changed out the gauge cluster with one that had a tach.

[Plays_with_Toys]

You're most likely missing a tach, power windows, power locks, anti-lock brakes, you have a 14mm rear sway bar, and a 19mm front sway bar, and you have 14 inch wheels. It should be all wheel drive, as I believe FWD was phased out in 1995, but you can check that.

[cvc7chris]

yep

no power doors
no power windows
no tach
14 caps
idk about the sway bars

i haven't got it yet

but i drove it for about an hour and it handles GREAT!!!

wouldn't adding a tach be much easier?
like on the side of the dash ?

is it hard to wire them or hook them up or whatever?

[Plays_with_Toys]

it'd look nicer plugging in a new dash. Considering that way more L, LS, GT and outbacks were sold than brightons, sourcing cluster shouldn't be too hard.

[AJM]

Possibly drums in the rear as well...

[Sarra]

Put some dubs on it.

And yeah, an aftermarket tach shouldn't be a big deal. I'm gonna go aftermarket tach and speedo for my GL/Loyale. Too hard to read the stupid digital in the sun, too dim. It's too bright at night, too, stupid thing.

[Wiscon_Mark]

Someone on here changed out the gauge cluster with one that had a tach.

Actually, no, they just took a tachometer out of a junkyard car cluster and put it in theirs. It's extremely easy to do. All of the wiring is already back there.

[cvc7chris]

so the wiring from a tach on a cluster is allready on the back of my brighton edition cluter?

if it is

i might do that

but i still wanna know if it's hard to put a Tach on like one on the side

i always thought they looked cool

and those dubs

YEAH

i saw a white legacy on black w/ chrome lip and it looked Awesome

idk this stuff takes time

[SilentRacer]

Why

must

you

type

like

this

:roll:

[shazapple]

It would definitely be 100% easier to install the stock tach instead of putting one on the side which would require wiring, mounting, etc etc

[cvc7chris]

well i'll see if i can find any in a local junkyard but anyone know if theres any on ebay ?

[Sarra]

I avoid ebay.

Put WRX wheels on it and leave it at that. WRX wheels > * Aftermarket wheels would be too gaudy on a Brighton, even on a LSI or GT. On a GT, you might get away with STI wheels or SSR comps or Gram Lights...

Honestly, a Brighton isn't a car that would really be worthy of serious money. Add a tach, do a few upgrades, but please, don't dump a bunch of money into it. :-( It's your car though, do what you want.

[cvc7chris]

yeah

why brighton sucks?

i mean it's only got like 96k

my honda has 219k and it's still Pulling HARD!!!

i always wanted black rims with chrome lip
or some Chrome Rims

[Reason]

It doesn't suck it just has less options, and it's lighter. It's a good base to start on, pick your mods wisely. We say switch the tach with a stock unit you will notice that the Subaru community is different from the Honda community.

There's also nothing wrong with eBay. I found lots of cool parts on there. I have a trade rating of 110 of buying and selling and had no problems.

[AJM]

Brightons are actually better for power modifications in the sense that they are lighter.

Get a light weight crank, I've seen the most gains from that. Also, get an outback sway bar set.

At least he doesn't have a 4EAT *cough* unlike some of you *cough*.

[StatGSR]

^ u mean crank pully


but anyway, i have a brighton as well, i have done the tach swap, it is very simple, just try to buy one fron 95-97 because the facing will be black and match the rest of the gauges later ones are grey, the needle colors also changed from white to red so u will probably want to get one that matches the rest, i picked up mine off ebay, it was a good 20 bux cheaper than getting it at my local junk yard, i think i spent just under 30 bux. in the diy forum there is a "brighton tach" or similar thread that covers this and some other things, so please dont buy some ugly 5 inch dash mounted tach. the brighton also only comes with front speakers, but they are wired for the rears if u want to upgrade those. also
brighton model comes with rear drum brakes.

and as for making it blue, thats what im working on right now so your not allowed to...

Edit, tach link..
http://www.sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?t=3587

[Reason]

I sell light weight pulleys let me know if you want something.

[Sarra]

I sell light weight pulleys let me know if you want something.

You got one that's got an extra pulley on it? Need something to drive my supercharger...

[Reason]

I sell light weight pulleys let me know if you want something.

You got one that's got an extra pulley on it? Need something to drive my supercharger...

Nope, just light weight crank and alt pulley and soon to be a power steering pulley. You could always weld the alt pulley on the crank pulley. You would need to find someone who welds aluminum.

[StatGSR]

I sell light weight pulleys let me know if you want something.

You got one that's got an extra pulley on it? Need something to drive my supercharger...

why wouldnt u just drive it off like the AC belt or something

[Reason]

I sell light weight pulleys let me know if you want something.

You got one that's got an extra pulley on it? Need something to drive my supercharger...

why wouldnt u just drive it off like the AC belt or something

That's true, who needs and A/C. I would imagine that Oregon is pretty cold most of the time?

[StatGSR]

^ well that, or just change to some uber long belt.

[Sarra]

I sell light weight pulleys let me know if you want something.

You got one that's got an extra pulley on it? Need something to drive my supercharger...

why wouldnt u just drive it off like the AC belt or something

That's true, who needs and A/C. I would imagine that Oregon is pretty cold most of the time?

OH HELL NO!!!! A few years ago, it was 115F with 70% humidity! 34 people died from the heat.

It has to do with pulley size. I'd need a larger one, actually. Welding a larger pulley onto the crank pulley would probably be the best route to go.

the SC is gonna need it's own pulley and belt in this application. I'm going to try to go with a wider belt too.

[cvc7chris]

At least he doesn't have a 4EAT *cough* unlike some of you *cough*.

WTF?

Im new to These Subaru Slangs

i spent too much time on Honda Accord Forums

?

but yeah tach will probally be the first

idk why everyone is hating

people at cb7tuner are like Subarus kinda suck

and other people say honda accords suck

but idk

i mean it's just a CAR not like your gonna Die if it's not The best

[Reason]

That's how most people on forums are, very opinionated. But it comes down to if you can handle criticism. It happens everywhere. Someone don't like the way you mod your car fuck em, they aren't driving it. But you are posting on a public forum asking questions and opinions, boy are you going to get it no matter where it is. Do what you want to your car, nobody is stopping you, just be prepared to take the bad with the good when people offer advice :wink:

[Reason]

By the way 4EAT is 4 spd automatic tranny

[Sarra]

Not hating.

Accords are fine. They move, they get good milage, they just aren't rally cars (and really, neither are our Legacies, with a few exceptions).

I guess it's more along the lines of "Don't dump $10,000 into a car that's only worth $1000" type of thing.

[Reason]

Speaking of hating I just got rid of my 91 CB7, I also a member of the CB7 forums.

EDIT: Let me add to this. I been on Many Honda forums for my Accord and my CRX. I also on a Neon forum and MANY Subaru forums. I can tell you this now the Honda and Neon forum are more alike than like a Subaru forum. Activities and how a majority of the cars are put together are so much different. There's no hating, people just do different things.

[cvc7chris]

Yeah
im 17 i can't dump 10,000 into a wagon btw
and yeah everyone has their opinions and sometimes
you won't like it been though it alot on cb7tuner..people piss you off
then you fight them online..nothing new..but yeah i do need opinions on
this one...never owned a wagon..but it's a 5 speed AWD with low miles
so i guess im going to go for it...and the accord is nice..nothing GREAT!!!

Thanks Though

[Reason]

Here's a wagon you could go by http://www.sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?t=3435&start=0

[cvc7chris]

Damn i saw that earlier man it's a LIVE ASS WAGON
but it's not White like mine...i want to tint the windows..and get some rims
and Audio thats my plans for now then MAYBE perfomance parts i don't know yet....i saw a white one on cardomain with a bodykit and black rims and it was the BOMB

[cvc7chris]

Ya gotta Check This Subaru Out it's probally old to ya but i think it's awesome
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tOC8p1N5V-g&mode=related&search=

[Huffer]

Damn i saw that earlier man it's a LIVE ASS WAGON
but it's not White like mine...i want to tint the windows..and get some rims
and Audio thats my plans for now then MAYBE perfomance parts i don't know yet....i saw a white one on cardomain with a bodykit and black rims and it was the BOMB

search the member's rides for mine, and GTwagon...

Here's an idea of how a "Brighton" (aka Impreza L) wagon can be transformed (yes, it's mine):
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2005/09/020105_ToryMotorCompany-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/10/050305_TeMataPeakSheep1-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2005/09/050326_2Hot2HandleWgtn_Ignition-1.jpg

[Huffer]

idk why everyone is hating

A few people, including myself, dislike they way you construct your posts.
It's not necessary to hit the enter key after every pause, or sentence.

Still, there are people who are guilty of NEVER hitting the enter key...

[cvc7chris]

Damn that wagon huffer posted i LIVE!!! and sorry that's the way i used to type on Cb7tuner for like 6 months so i got used to typing like this i'll try not to space it much aiight guys...i saw a leagacy with a spoiler on top which made it look nice..and like gold bottom all around the car made it look nice too...

[Wiscon_Mark]

I'm not sure how "LIVE" got to be a slang for like, but is that what you mean?

There's absolutely nothing wrong with having a brighton. It's lighter, and honestly and extremely good car for the money. You get AWD, 5MT, all the really good stuff without some of the unnecessary bells & whistles. A little paint and the car can look really good (as Huffer demonstrated).

[cvc7chris]

Live means to me like More than i like..like something NICE!!! but yeah brighton seems to be aiight manual windows and locks..kinda getting tired of automatic windows and locks and them fucking up on my honda...and it's lighter like ya said and for $1400 bucks..i got $500 and he told me to get him $1000 and he'll give it to me..because he needs a van for his Wife (my aunt) because their baby is on the way and they won't fit in a subi..plus i mean that gives me time to sell my accord...

but Tint and rims is what im looking for and audio the paint is good on it but it's just that he NEVER washes it because me and my uncle work on drywall sometimes and we never have time to wash our cars lol

[Sarra]

The automatic windows Loyale has are driving me crazy, so I hear you there.

[Plays_with_Toys]

As you might have gathered, this forum is real nitpicky on grammar and such. Because we cater to an international crowd, and with a pretty broad wealth of knowledge on the american legacies, and growing knowledge on overseas models, I'd like to think any person could jump on here find the information they want and walk away trusting it. That would include any age individual who might just google "subaru outback overheating" or something like that and stumble upon our site. Using slang and bad grammar (which a growing number of working adults are becoming guilty of) makes us and the information we post sound less credible.

So here's what you should do. In this order:

sand your headlights down and clear the glazing off. Work all the way up to 2000 grit. Check the DIY section.

wheels (look for OEM subaru wheels, WRX owners are very quick to get rid of their wheels and they look really good on our cars. Especially the 7 spoke 06/07 model wheels). Make sure you put some decent rubber on the tires, no $30 walmart tires. Remember, any mod done to your car ain't going to do a thing if you can't keep the car on the road.

snorkusectomy. Again check the DIY. It's pulling the air resonator box out of the fender. No gains except a smile on your face from the new sound. It's free, so why not?

outback rear sway bar (any 1996 to 1999 subaru outback legacy sway bar will do, look in the DIY section for a how to) This really tightens up the feel of the car, but, it also changes the natural understeering tendency of the car towards oversteer. Without good tires, you can put yourself into some bad situations if the car goes around on you.

lightweight crank pulley. It's a great feel good mod. Smooths out the car and especially first gear. Make sure you torque down with a torque wrench, and don't overtorque or you'll crack your crank seal.

tint, get a good tint shop. Subaru's have frameless windows, so you'll be able to see the edge of your tint every time you open the door.

There you go, a good start. From there just cruise the DIY's and look at the member's galleries, get some ideas. I'll tell you an exhaust on a subaru is a huge draw, but you as a wagon owner have to be careful. You need a much longer tip than most sedan owners and because of the hatch, you can suffer drone and reverberation alot easier. The exhaust is something you'll want to look into so you don't respend money down the road.

[cvc7chris]

what do front and rear Sway bars do ? i mean as improvement ?

is it really unnoticeable

[StatGSR]

^ they help control chassis roll. upgrading your rear sway bar will also help get rid of some of the cars under steer.

[Plays_with_Toys]

is it really unnoticeable

very. The car will be much less prone to body roll and sway. If you can figure it out, you can also prompt the rear end to swing out while cornering. It's probably one of the best and cheapest upgrades to the car.

[Wiscon_Mark]

Behind Tires, front & rear swaybars are the best bang for the buck suspension modifications you can do, IMO. I haven't gotten to the front yet, but the rear was amazing...

[cvc7chris]

that nice im gonna check on ebay for Sway bars when i get more money and this ?


snorkusectomy. Again check the DIY. It's pulling the air resonator box out of the fender. No gains except a smile on your face from the new sound. It's free, so why not?

is that like where it sucks air into the air intake? from the fender?
what sound does it make ? or what ?

and i have a question about thoes Intakes for Subarus
there popular i forgot the name...i'll look it up

[Wiscon_Mark]

With the stock setup, the intake sucks from behind the headlight. Not a bad location, takes mostly cold air, but gets some warm engine air. Then it goes into the fender, and returns back into the engine bay in the air box. It doesn't just go from one hole to another (look in your engine bay to see what I'm talking about), it dips down into this really big box that is there for the purpose of sound deadening the intake noise.

[cvc7chris]

yeah it dips down and then this other plastic comes up so by removing that ? what's the use? or purpose? BTW i found the INTAKE..it's called Weapon R Dragon it's a popular one on Ebay and i saw it on here b4 so i am guessing it's popular idk

[Wiscon_Mark]

Some people like the Weapon R, some people don't.

The purpose would be to free things up just a bit (not really noticable gains) and make the intake sound agressive.

[cvc7chris]

and another little Question i heard of people getting a Bypass Turbo Valve for Cars that are not Turbo'd and they sound like they have turbo idk if that's possible i just LOVE the way that Bypass Valve Sounds my friend has a Talon Tsi Front Wheel Drive and it Pulled Hard

[cvc7chris]

Shit i MEANT BLOW OFF VALVE MY BAD!!!

[Wiscon_Mark]

Feel free to get one if you want to be laughed at...it's a useless modification to pay any money for though.

IMO, you'd outgrow it real fast too.

[Wiscon_Mark]

Shit i MEANT BLOW OFF VALVE MY BAD!!!

There's an edit button, you can change your post.

[Reason]

and another little Question i heard of people getting a Bypass Turbo Valve for Cars that are not Turbo'd and they sound like they have turbo idk if that's possible i just LOVE the way that Bypass Valve Sounds my friend has a Talon Tsi Front Wheel Drive and it Pulled Hard

WTF????? Dude the reason why the car pulls because it's a TSi and it's a turbo. It doesn't pull because it sounds good. You getting a product that sounds like apart that gives a car power is going to do only one thing, make you look foolish.

[deadlydave]

Wow, welcome to the forums. You do have a lot of energy. The intake is really up to the owner--it doesn't do much, but sounds nice. But definitely pull the "snorkus" out of your fender.

Read some of the easy, cheap, or free modifications in the Do it Yourself sections. Sometimes that's the stuff that will really let you enjoy the car.

As for the fake blow-off valve, you probably don't want to do that. Legacies aren't especially fast, so it'll just make you feel worse when a soccer mom in a V6 camry easily passes you. By 'not fast'--my 2.2L legacy sedan with the auto transmission pulled an 18.046 1/4 mile time. THAT is slooooow.

[cvc7chris]

i was just making sure on the blow off valve

i never seen it on a nonturbo i heard about it..i know there not too fast or nothing anyways..i still need pictures on how to remove the thing on the intake..im one of those visual learners

[Huffer]

A little paint and the car can look really good (as Huffer demonstrated).

Err, I put more than a "little paint" into my Impreza... ;)

[cvc7chris]

im probally gonna leave the paint as it maybe Clean it Wax it really good b4 winter comes..plus white keeps you cool in the summer and looks cool with Black tint..couldn't i put a Spoiler on the back ? i've seen other Legacys with Spoilers but i don't know if they would fit My Legacy Though

[Wiscon_Mark]

If it's the same body style, there's no reason it shouldn't fit.

[cvc7chris]

Yeah so whats the link to That FREE DIY ya were talking about ? im New to Sl-I.Net lol and i can't really Navigate on it once you got on once site too long it's hard to Adapt to another One

[Wiscon_Mark]

It's not hard at all. Click on the "Forum Index" link at the top of the page, then look at the forums in the index. In the technical section, halfway down the page, there's a "DIY Forums" section that has tons and tons of stuff for you to look at. check it out.

At this point, a lot of your questions can be answered just by reading, so I'd ask you to poke around for now, and come back with specific questions if you need to. If they relate to the topic that you're looking at, feel free to post in that topic.

[b33rnut010]

Weird, i also have a 92 Accord EX 5 speed coupe, and am on CB7 tuner... and some how ended up with a legacy brighton.... maybe we are the same person?

[cvc7chris]

Nice dude mine is a 1993 Accord Lx but i haven't sold mine i still Drive it around....Cb7tuner is cool though so is Sl-i.net..

Btw i searched all the Diy and i couldn't find anything on removing at fender Part

[b33rnut010]

i havnt been on CB7 tuner in a long while, i feel like its got kinda lame.
I have been reading SL-i, nasioc, RS25, and homemadeturbo.com (awesome site). Im really just looking for subaru parts, and information.

[cvc7chris]

you got any pics of your brighton wagon man ? i really wanna see some

[Reason]

Yeah so whats the link to That FREE DIY ya were talking about ? im New to Sl-I.Net lol and i can't really Navigate on it once you got on once site too long it's hard to Adapt to another One

This forum is half the size of CB7 tuner and a lot easier to navigate. I'm laughing at your posts because I don't see the difficulties in your questions. But then again finding a DIY thread marked DIY is a big mind boggling.

[cvc7chris]

yeah idk it's probally just my computer it' takes a Long time to fully load stuff on Sl-i.net for some reason..but yeah i'll keep looking though

[cvc7chris]

i put a new avatar and a pic of my wagon in my Signature how's it look ?

im probally Exceding the Limit right?