Ultimate All-season Tire

[LegacyRob]

These look like the best all-season I've ever seen. They are even rated for severe weather.
http://nokiantires.com/en/tire_wrg2.aspx?season=summer

[Mr. Sociable]

Going to buy them and post a review? :smile:

[Huffer]

They are awesome. They are also uber $$$.

Good even in the dry.

[LegacyRob]

Might buy them when i wear out the summers and winter, might be a yr or 2 though. I came across these just wasting time at work.

[Jonathan]

They are awesome. They are also uber $$$.

Good even in the dry.YES, they are awesome, and YES they are indeed a tad on the expensive side.

Nokian Tyres offer significantly longer tread wear.

If the tyre lasts you twice as long as many of the competitors tyres, you shouldn't have too much of a problem spending nearly twice as much money (assuming you are planning on keeping the car). When you add the better overall performance charactoristics, these tyres are an excellent choice.

[Plays_with_Toys]

How much per tire are we talking here? Or is it a question of, if you need to ask you can't afford it?

[gefinley]

How much per tire are we talking here? Or is it a question of, if you need to ask you can't afford it?

I was wondering the same thing.

Nokian look like they make quite good winter tires, but I don't get enough snow to merit anything other than M+S.

[rougeben83]

How much per tire are we talking here? Or is it a question of, if you need to ask you can't afford it?

I was wondering the same thing.

Nokian look like they make quite good winter tires, but I don't get enough snow to merit anything other than M+S.

About $200/tire for a 17" one. That was the quote I got about a year ago when I was looking for tires for the van.

[LegacyRob]

Yhats not all that bad really. Specially if you drive them yr around.

[gefinley]

How much per tire are we talking here? Or is it a question of, if you need to ask you can't afford it?

I was wondering the same thing.

Nokian look like they make quite good winter tires, but I don't get enough snow to merit anything other than M+S.

About $200/tire for a 17" one. That was the quote I got about a year ago when I was looking for tires for the van.

Yea, if they have at least twice the tread life of other tires then that's not bad at all.

[StatGSR]

ok i understand u guys are talking about the price of a 17 inch tire, but its really not hard to have 2 sets of wheels with good summer tires, and good winter tires for that kinda money.

[Mr. Sociable]

To compare:


Nokian all-season:
http://nokiantires.com/en/images/big_wrg2.jpg


Continential preformance snow tires:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/12/co_ContiWinterContact_ts810_ci2_l-1.jpg

[danci1973]

All-season tires are a compromise - at best. Unless you live in a climate without destinctive winter/summer periods it's IMHO better to have two sets of wheels.

Winter tires are not just about 'thread', it's the compound that matters too. They are designed to withstand low temperatures, salt, snow, ... They are also softer (in terms of compound) to provide better grip in cold weather.

Winter tires don't work in hot weather - they are too soft, they overheat quickly and they wear fast (sometimes leaving black stripes without even spinning the tires).

Summer tires are the opposite - they're harder and withstand heat much better. They provide grip at higher ambient temperatures and they don't overheat easily.

In cold weather they become hard (as plastic) and the grip they provide is .. well, it's not. While they're hard they also develop cracks easily due to sand and salt that's usually sprayed all over roads in winter.

All-season tires are somewhere in between - they don't fail as miserably in cold, they don't wear as quickly in hot - but they don't do very good either.

I also think that two sets of different types of tires (summer/winter) will last longer then two sets of all-season tires. If your region is blessed with lots of snow you could choose slightly narrower winter tires to further help grip and stability in snow. You can also use cheap steel wheels for winter tires (cheap to buy, cheap to repair/replace, ...).

D.

[LegacyRob]

I have 2 sets of tires, Summer and Winter, but my next set of summer are going to be all season. I've been caught 2 times with the summers on and it has snowed and have not been able to drive the car till the roads cleared off. Too much of an inconvience. I usually wait as long as possible to put the winters on cuz they are studded, so having an all season would be much better.

[LegacyRob]

To compare:


Nokian all-season:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/


Continential preformance snow tires:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2007/12/co_ContiWinterContact_ts810_ci2_l-1.jpg

They have a similar tread pattern but the continental doesn't have a tread wear rating.

[deadlydave]

Several of the Baja guys on Nasioc swear by the Goodyear Triple-Treads.

I'm going to stick to dedicated summer/winter tires though.

[Mr. Sociable]

As for what everyone said about compound, I understand this, I only posted the pictures as a comparison of tread.


I would be interested in seeing how much of a "compromise" these Nokian's are though, severe weather rating helps bump them up. I know my Toyo Versado's are terrible in the snow. Maybe these are *almost* a snow tire, or at least a very snow biased all season?

[LegacyRob]

As for what everyone said about compound, I understand this, I only posted the pictures as a comparison of tread.


I was only replying for the people that maybe don't know the difference.

[StatGSR]

Maybe these are *almost* a snow tire, or at least a very snow biased all season?

they are definitely a snow biased all season.