sheepdog
12-17-2007, 10:09 PM
Yep, got them today. I finally got the Impreza registered, and should have a clean, legit CO title in my name in my mailbox sometime in the future! It's only been what, a year and a half?
Just to kind of vent, and celebrate my victory over the Department of Transportation, I'm going to walk you guys through the entire process, why it took so damn long and what followed. Remember, some of this time passing was due to me not being able to afford to fix something on the car, being out of town, etc. Regardless, here are the steps.
I bought the car from a dude in CT. He signed the car over to me, using this Q-1 form, legit DMV form. It is a title transfer form, it combines a bill of sale and all into a piece of paper you just staple to the title, for the purpose of being able to use it as a title until you get a new one. Problem is, neither he, nor the guy before him, had gotten the title re-issued in their names. So I was the 3rd Q-1 form stapled to the title. The guy told me it was cool, the DMV would take it. Sweet.
Anyways, it worked fine in CT to get the temp. tags, and in VA to get the temp tags there. I was moving back to CO by the time I got it back from the swap, so I never bothered to re-register it in VA.
Skip to CO. I take the title in to get it re-issued in my name, and the lady digs up some DMV bible that says you can only have 1 Q-1 form for Colorado, even though CT says it's legit. I'm going to have to go through the process to get a bonded title to register the car. She gives me a 30 day tag, and sends me off with a huge packet of papers.
Long story short, here's what's involved in a Bonded Title
1. VIN inspection (performed at the State Police Academy, how wonderful)
2. Appraisal from a Dealership
3. Surity Bond for 2x the appraised value
4. Emissions Test
I figure cool, no worries. This is a pain in the ass, but it's no biggie. Wrong again. I fail the VIN inspection because of this D-bag cop who did the inspection, and to be honest I felt discriminated against by being stereotyped as a punk ass street racer, and I resented it. Right in front of me passed an inspection with a miata that had a C5 motor in it after checking the VINs and off he went.
This guy heard my exhaust, saw me, and picked my car over with a fine tooth comb. He hassled me about the missing VIN on the dash, which due to the swap, isn't there anymore. He couldn't find anything and went to get the paperwork sorted out, when he sees the suede-recovered blown airbag covers. Shit.
Long story short he fails me big time for the airbags. He essentially told me that even though I don't even have airbag sensors in the car since its a 93, I have to have them in there because the 05 dash was designed to have them. He's not talking about them just being in there, he wants me to somehow put airbag sensors in the car. Retard. Skip to me being able to afford the airbags.
I put the airbags in and run wires to make them look hooked up, and do a couple other things to make sure I pass the test. I remind you, none of these are supposed to be safety inspections in the first place, they are VIN inspections. They simply have the right to fail me if they feel the car isn't roadworthy... aka if they want to be a dick.
I go to the inspection station in another town, to avoid the d-bag guy at the other place. The guy at this place is cool with me, but I also acted like a total car-moron, wore a collared shirt, and pretended I bought the car how it is. He said something about the exhaust, and I mentioned I was going to take it into the dealership to see what was wrong with it :lol:
Needless to say they treated me MUCH differently, but unfortunately he was also feeling in a nit-picky mood. No public VIN on the dash now apparently means I have to apply to get a new, different CO assigned VIN number. Remember, every other VIN number on the car (despite the one on the block, but that doesn't matter) matches and checks out fine, so why are they assigning me a NEW vin number? Sigh. More paperwork ensues, mostly me filling out information about the car along with the VIN inspection paperwork from before.
The DMV takes all this and mails it off to Denver for processing and gives me another 30 day tag. This tag expires. 5 days later, I get the paperwork back in the mail (my mail, not the DMV where it SHOULD have gone). I didn't initial on the top of the back of one of these forms, so it was rejected. And they wanted to know the VIN number that was on the dash. Remember, I've written lengthy explanations in that very packet saying the whole reason I have to get an assigned VIN is because I don't have a VIN on the dash.
I initial, and send it back. The cool DMV lady gives me another 30 day tag. This one also expires. 3 weeks later, I get my letter in the mail saying I can bring my vehicle to the State Police Academy to get my new VIN stamped on the car. WTF, stamped on the car? Whatever. I'm more worried about whether it's going to be the same D-bag from before. The car has to be "roadworthy" it states, including lights, etc.
I got the same guy. Fucking asshole. He was a total prick to me, but it wasn't as bad as the first time since 1. I don't think he recognized me due to my car-moron disguise and 2. I had airbags and the car was one color. He actually mentioned to me that it sounded like my exhaust looked like it fell off, that's why it was "Making that grumbling sound." I assured him I'd get it fixed, I didn't even know.
My exhaust is painted black :lol: Whatever, he stamped the VIN plate on (drilled holes in my B pillar below the door latch, lame) and put rivets in there to hold it on. One rivet fell out about 2 miles down the road, when I got gas.
Then, Emissions. That went smoothly actually, due to my stock catted uppipe and downpipe. The guy tried to hassle me about which year to test the car as since it has an OBDII plug in the dash, and I told him to test it however he wanted to, it's all wired up to work. Punk.
Whew. Got the bonded title (for the new VIN number) and dropped the paperwork off today.
Hence, my new plates. If you bothered to read all that, you're probably starting to lose your marbles. Imagine having to do all of it!
Just to kind of vent, and celebrate my victory over the Department of Transportation, I'm going to walk you guys through the entire process, why it took so damn long and what followed. Remember, some of this time passing was due to me not being able to afford to fix something on the car, being out of town, etc. Regardless, here are the steps.
I bought the car from a dude in CT. He signed the car over to me, using this Q-1 form, legit DMV form. It is a title transfer form, it combines a bill of sale and all into a piece of paper you just staple to the title, for the purpose of being able to use it as a title until you get a new one. Problem is, neither he, nor the guy before him, had gotten the title re-issued in their names. So I was the 3rd Q-1 form stapled to the title. The guy told me it was cool, the DMV would take it. Sweet.
Anyways, it worked fine in CT to get the temp. tags, and in VA to get the temp tags there. I was moving back to CO by the time I got it back from the swap, so I never bothered to re-register it in VA.
Skip to CO. I take the title in to get it re-issued in my name, and the lady digs up some DMV bible that says you can only have 1 Q-1 form for Colorado, even though CT says it's legit. I'm going to have to go through the process to get a bonded title to register the car. She gives me a 30 day tag, and sends me off with a huge packet of papers.
Long story short, here's what's involved in a Bonded Title
1. VIN inspection (performed at the State Police Academy, how wonderful)
2. Appraisal from a Dealership
3. Surity Bond for 2x the appraised value
4. Emissions Test
I figure cool, no worries. This is a pain in the ass, but it's no biggie. Wrong again. I fail the VIN inspection because of this D-bag cop who did the inspection, and to be honest I felt discriminated against by being stereotyped as a punk ass street racer, and I resented it. Right in front of me passed an inspection with a miata that had a C5 motor in it after checking the VINs and off he went.
This guy heard my exhaust, saw me, and picked my car over with a fine tooth comb. He hassled me about the missing VIN on the dash, which due to the swap, isn't there anymore. He couldn't find anything and went to get the paperwork sorted out, when he sees the suede-recovered blown airbag covers. Shit.
Long story short he fails me big time for the airbags. He essentially told me that even though I don't even have airbag sensors in the car since its a 93, I have to have them in there because the 05 dash was designed to have them. He's not talking about them just being in there, he wants me to somehow put airbag sensors in the car. Retard. Skip to me being able to afford the airbags.
I put the airbags in and run wires to make them look hooked up, and do a couple other things to make sure I pass the test. I remind you, none of these are supposed to be safety inspections in the first place, they are VIN inspections. They simply have the right to fail me if they feel the car isn't roadworthy... aka if they want to be a dick.
I go to the inspection station in another town, to avoid the d-bag guy at the other place. The guy at this place is cool with me, but I also acted like a total car-moron, wore a collared shirt, and pretended I bought the car how it is. He said something about the exhaust, and I mentioned I was going to take it into the dealership to see what was wrong with it :lol:
Needless to say they treated me MUCH differently, but unfortunately he was also feeling in a nit-picky mood. No public VIN on the dash now apparently means I have to apply to get a new, different CO assigned VIN number. Remember, every other VIN number on the car (despite the one on the block, but that doesn't matter) matches and checks out fine, so why are they assigning me a NEW vin number? Sigh. More paperwork ensues, mostly me filling out information about the car along with the VIN inspection paperwork from before.
The DMV takes all this and mails it off to Denver for processing and gives me another 30 day tag. This tag expires. 5 days later, I get the paperwork back in the mail (my mail, not the DMV where it SHOULD have gone). I didn't initial on the top of the back of one of these forms, so it was rejected. And they wanted to know the VIN number that was on the dash. Remember, I've written lengthy explanations in that very packet saying the whole reason I have to get an assigned VIN is because I don't have a VIN on the dash.
I initial, and send it back. The cool DMV lady gives me another 30 day tag. This one also expires. 3 weeks later, I get my letter in the mail saying I can bring my vehicle to the State Police Academy to get my new VIN stamped on the car. WTF, stamped on the car? Whatever. I'm more worried about whether it's going to be the same D-bag from before. The car has to be "roadworthy" it states, including lights, etc.
I got the same guy. Fucking asshole. He was a total prick to me, but it wasn't as bad as the first time since 1. I don't think he recognized me due to my car-moron disguise and 2. I had airbags and the car was one color. He actually mentioned to me that it sounded like my exhaust looked like it fell off, that's why it was "Making that grumbling sound." I assured him I'd get it fixed, I didn't even know.
My exhaust is painted black :lol: Whatever, he stamped the VIN plate on (drilled holes in my B pillar below the door latch, lame) and put rivets in there to hold it on. One rivet fell out about 2 miles down the road, when I got gas.
Then, Emissions. That went smoothly actually, due to my stock catted uppipe and downpipe. The guy tried to hassle me about which year to test the car as since it has an OBDII plug in the dash, and I told him to test it however he wanted to, it's all wired up to work. Punk.
Whew. Got the bonded title (for the new VIN number) and dropped the paperwork off today.
Hence, my new plates. If you bothered to read all that, you're probably starting to lose your marbles. Imagine having to do all of it!