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zach1288
01-14-2008, 04:59 PM
What would an exhaust sound like on an auto EJ22?
Huffer
01-14-2008, 05:11 PM
Same as a manual EJ22.
zach1288
01-14-2008, 05:23 PM
Same as a manual EJ22.
I mean will it sound good like a manual car or will it be monotone? I love the way subi's with exhausts sound but i dont know about putting one on my auto subi?
Huffer
01-14-2008, 05:37 PM
again. exactly the same, unless it's modified in some manner.
This includes but not limited to: rusty parts, missing catalytic convertors, non-stock axle-backs.
zach1288
01-14-2008, 05:39 PM
again. exactly the same, unless it's modified in some manner.
This includes but not limited to: rusty parts, missing catalytic convertors, non-stock axle-backs.
I realize the sound will be the same. But lets say you had an auto would you put an exhaust on it?
Huffer
01-14-2008, 05:41 PM
^^ it really depends on whether or not you WANT to.
The transmission doesn't make one difference to the sound of the car, if that's what you're getting at.
zach1288
01-14-2008, 05:44 PM
^^ it really depends on whether or not you WANT to.
The transmission doesn't make one difference to the sound of the car, if that's what you're getting at.
No i understand that it sounds the same. But when you hear an auto civic with a fart cannon drive buy you can tell its auto and it sounds worse than a civic thats a manual with a fart cannon because you cant hear the auto shifting. You know what i mean?
Huffer
01-14-2008, 05:52 PM
^^ it really depends on whether or not you WANT to.
The transmission doesn't make one difference to the sound of the car, if that's what you're getting at.
No i understand that it sounds the same. But when you hear an auto civic with a fart cannon drive buy you can tell its auto and it sounds worse than a civic thats a manual with a fart cannon because you cant hear the auto shifting. You know what i mean?
I have no idea what you're saying?
Why would an auto sound worse than a manual? An auto will likely sound better than a manual because unless the shift logic is messed up - the car isn't going to suffer from a lopsided driver who is heavy on the clutch.
IT WILL SOUND THE SAME. :roll:
zach1288
01-14-2008, 05:54 PM
^^ it really depends on whether or not you WANT to.
The transmission doesn't make one difference to the sound of the car, if that's what you're getting at.
No i understand that it sounds the same. But when you hear an auto civic with a fart cannon drive buy you can tell its auto and it sounds worse than a civic thats a manual with a fart cannon because you cant hear the auto shifting. You know what i mean?
I have no idea what you're saying?
Why would an auto sound worse than a manual? An auto will likely sound better than a manual because unless the shift logic is messed up - the car isn't going to suffer from a lopsided driver who is heavy on the clutch.
IT WILL SOUND THE SAME. :roll:
I guess you dont understand what i am trying to say :lol: Thanks for the help.
Sarra
01-14-2008, 06:00 PM
^^ it really depends on whether or not you WANT to.
The transmission doesn't make one difference to the sound of the car, if that's what you're getting at.
No i understand that it sounds the same. But when you hear an auto civic with a fart cannon drive buy you can tell its auto and it sounds worse than a civic thats a manual with a fart cannon because you cant hear the auto shifting. You know what i mean?
Unless you're putting a fart can on, it won't sound like a civic.
1) Keep your resonator (or A resonator)
2) Don't use a straight through muffler (aka glass pack)
3) Get UEL headers for rumble, EL headers for more of an inline 4 sound and performance
4) Keep your cat, either stock or aftermarket
That'll keep your exhaust from sounding like a civic, not that it's really possible to make a 2.2 sound like a 1.6, but oh well.
Also, I think that the automatic subies have a quicker shift than an old 1980's civic.
zach1288
01-14-2008, 06:02 PM
^^ it really depends on whether or not you WANT to.
The transmission doesn't make one difference to the sound of the car, if that's what you're getting at.
No i understand that it sounds the same. But when you hear an auto civic with a fart cannon drive buy you can tell its auto and it sounds worse than a civic thats a manual with a fart cannon because you cant hear the auto shifting. You know what i mean?
Unless you're putting a fart can on, it won't sound like a civic.
1) Keep your resonator (or A resonator)
2) Don't use a straight through muffler (aka glass pack)
3) Get UEL headers for rumble, EL headers for more of an inline 4 sound and performance
4) Keep your cat, either stock or aftermarket
That'll keep your exhaust from sounding like a civic, not that it's really possible to make a 2.2 sound like a 1.6, but oh well.
Also, I think that the automatic subies have a quicker shift than an old 1980's civic.
What exhaust do you suggest? I looked and cant find any for a 95? Will it still sound good with just an axle back?
Reason
01-14-2008, 06:38 PM
This thread is funny, no your auto won't sound like a manual during shifts. In a manual you lay off the gas and the rpms drop, in a auto it's constant. So in that effect NO it won't sound the same. At idle and acceleration it will sound the same. If your goal is to fool people that your auto is a manual it won't work.
Sarra
01-14-2008, 07:44 PM
^^ it really depends on whether or not you WANT to.
The transmission doesn't make one difference to the sound of the car, if that's what you're getting at.
No i understand that it sounds the same. But when you hear an auto civic with a fart cannon drive buy you can tell its auto and it sounds worse than a civic thats a manual with a fart cannon because you cant hear the auto shifting. You know what i mean?
Unless you're putting a fart can on, it won't sound like a civic.
1) Keep your resonator (or A resonator)
2) Don't use a straight through muffler (aka glass pack)
3) Get UEL headers for rumble, EL headers for more of an inline 4 sound and performance
4) Keep your cat, either stock or aftermarket
That'll keep your exhaust from sounding like a civic, not that it's really possible to make a 2.2 sound like a 1.6, but oh well.
Also, I think that the automatic subies have a quicker shift than an old 1980's civic.
What exhaust do you suggest? I looked and cant find any for a 95? Will it still sound good with just an axle back?
Just get an SPT for a 1997-1999 GT and have the hangers modified to fit, if it even needs that modification, and a Borla manifold off ebay, if there are any.
zach1288
01-14-2008, 11:01 PM
This thread is funny, no your auto won't sound like a manual during shifts. In a manual you lay off the gas and the rpms drop, in a auto it's constant. So in that effect NO it won't sound the same. At idle and acceleration it will sound the same. If your goal is to fool people that your auto is a manual it won't work.
Ha Ha im not trying to fool anyone :grin:
Sarra
01-14-2008, 11:55 PM
This thread is funny, no your auto won't sound like a manual during shifts. In a manual you lay off the gas and the rpms drop, in a auto it's constant. So in that effect NO it won't sound the same. At idle and acceleration it will sound the same. If your goal is to fool people that your auto is a manual it won't work.
Ha Ha im not trying to fool anyone :grin:
whoooooooooOOOOOOOwhoooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOpppp...whooooooooooooooooo...
Plays_with_Toys
01-15-2008, 12:51 AM
An exhaust on an auto (in 70% of the cases, of all cases of all cars) will sound stupid and rice. Just my opinion, but honestly hearing a little fart car go by dropping the gears just makes me laugh. Go to something like a muscle car and well, I don't care about the tranny any longer.
Here, try this. Unbolt your axle back and drive somewhere. Like the sound? Then get a muffler. Don't like it? don't get a muffler.
zach1288
01-15-2008, 12:55 AM
An exhaust on an auto (in 70% of the cases, of all cases of all cars) will sound stupid and rice. Just my opinion, but honestly hearing a little fart car go by dropping the gears just makes me laugh. Go to something like a muscle car and well, I don't care about the tranny any longer.
Here, try this. Unbolt your axle back and drive somewhere. Like the sound? Then get a muffler. Don't like it? don't get a muffler.
Good idea, thanks. Thats what i am trying to avoid, sounding like a ricer. I just love the way subi's sound. Too bad the car is not a stick. I guess i have my civic si for that...
Plays_with_Toys
01-15-2008, 01:08 AM
Like I said, unbolt the axle back and see if you like the sound. The motor itself will sound like any other subie motor. It's just the shifts that'll sound different.
LOL why hatin' on a glasspack? Afraid it will make it sound ricey? If it's tuned right a glasspack will sound awesome.
Sarra
01-15-2008, 02:46 AM
Yeah, I'm gonna run a WRX header, some random UP, random DP, a cat, and a glasspack for my exhaust once I get this **** shortblock. >_<
Huffer
01-15-2008, 09:31 AM
An exhaust on an auto (in 70% of the cases, of all cases of all cars) will sound stupid and rice. Just my opinion, but honestly hearing a little fart car go by dropping the gears just makes me laugh. Go to something like a muscle car and well, I don't care about the tranny any longer.
I can't believe you just said that.
At virtually any speed an auto Subaru is going to sound basically like a manual Subaru - same gen, vehicle, whatever.
The only difference is how the driver modulates the pedals. At idle and freeway they're going to sound pretty much the same. So how is that "rice"?
A modified exhaust on a manual car is to improve performance. Same with an auto car (which probably needs it more due to the heavier weight of the 4EAT).
Reason
01-15-2008, 09:34 AM
An exhaust on an auto (in 70% of the cases, of all cases of all cars) will sound stupid and rice. Just my opinion, but honestly hearing a little fart car go by dropping the gears just makes me laugh. Go to something like a muscle car and well, I don't care about the tranny any longer.
I can't believe you just said that.
At virtually any speed an auto Subaru is going to sound basically like a manual Subaru - same gen, vehicle, whatever.
The only difference is how the driver modulates the pedals. At idle and freeway they're going to sound pretty much the same. So how is that "rice"?
A modified exhaust on a manual car is to improve performance. Same with an auto car (which probably needs it more due to the heavier weight of the 4EAT).
Huffer is right, theres no difference. Auto vs manual doesn't effect exhaust note.
blackparis
01-16-2008, 10:00 PM
I only use automatics lately (the last 4 cars)...
The difference with a civic auto and a subaru auto is that the civic is always slipping, so when you floor it, it just goes to LOUD and stays @ the same tone.....
Now here is a video of my car 4eat 05 2.5i with borla UEL and STi catback...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ofA9THXwXqc&feature=user
Dunno if that helps.... But i always let go of the gas when I shift my automatic anyways, most people around town think it is a manual....
Reason
01-16-2008, 10:26 PM
Dunno if that helps.... But i always let go of the gas when I shift my automatic anyways, most people around town think it is a manual....
lol why?
zach1288
01-16-2008, 11:33 PM
I only use automatics lately (the last 4 cars)...
The difference with a civic auto and a subaru auto is that the civic is always slipping, so when you floor it, it just goes to LOUD and stays @ the same tone.....
Now here is a video of my car 4eat 05 2.5i with borla UEL and STi catback...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ofA9THXwXqc&feature=user
Dunno if that helps.... But i always let go of the gas when I shift my automatic anyways, most people around town think it is a manual....
Cool video besides the music.
Sarra
01-17-2008, 12:06 AM
I only use automatics lately (the last 4 cars)...
The difference with a civic auto and a subaru auto is that the civic is always slipping, so when you floor it, it just goes to LOUD and stays @ the same tone.....
Now here is a video of my car 4eat 05 2.5i with borla UEL and STi catback...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ofA9THXwXqc&feature=user
Dunno if that helps.... But i always let go of the gas when I shift my automatic anyways, most people around town think it is a manual....
Cool video besides the music.
Agreed. Plus that car needed moar tractions.
Reason
01-17-2008, 12:11 AM
Cool video and I loved the song lol
Plays_with_Toys
01-17-2008, 12:52 AM
An exhaust on an auto (in 70% of the cases, of all cases of all cars) will sound stupid and rice. Just my opinion, but honestly hearing a little fart car go by dropping the gears just makes me laugh. Go to something like a muscle car and well, I don't care about the tranny any longer.
I can't believe you just said that.
At virtually any speed an auto Subaru is going to sound basically like a manual Subaru - same gen, vehicle, whatever.
The only difference is how the driver modulates the pedals. At idle and freeway they're going to sound pretty much the same. So how is that "rice"?
A modified exhaust on a manual car is to improve performance. Same with an auto car (which probably needs it more due to the heavier weight of the 4EAT).
Huffer is right, theres no difference. Auto vs manual doesn't effect exhaust note.
Reading comprehension owns you both :razz:
Like I said, unbolt the axle back and see if you like the sound. The motor itself will sound like any other subie motor. It's just the shifts that'll sound different.
Oh and if you're really desperate, there's the exhaust washer mod... :lol: Unbolt the axle back, put 3 washers in between the flanges of the axle back and midpipe for each bolt and reassemble. You'll have a muffler, and you'll have a decent sized hole for the boxer rumble to escape. It's not a permanent solution, but it again, allows you to see what you think of the sound before investing any real money.
zach1288
01-17-2008, 01:33 AM
Why not just leave the muffler off, why put washers in the flange?
Reason
01-17-2008, 01:44 AM
Legacy with no muffler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2JSCVgR3dk
zach1288
01-17-2008, 02:01 AM
Legacy with no muffler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2JSCVgR3dk
Sounds terrible.
Huffer
01-17-2008, 09:35 AM
An exhaust on an auto (in 70% of the cases, of all cases of all cars) will sound stupid and rice.
You still said that. Which is ridiculous considering the fastest AWD in the southern hemisphere (9.87 1/4mile) is an automatic transmission WAGON.
Plays_with_Toys
01-17-2008, 07:46 PM
Yep, and I still stick to that argument. My friend has already talked at length to me about the benefits of an auto transmission in drag racing. And I can agree to it, but in any other form of racing manual is better, or atleast a form of automatic that allows the user control of gear choice.
That video was in a garage. Look at our soundclip thread. The few that take place in a garage sound just as bad... It's the dynamics of the sound in a garage. No muffler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHZ-YOjPUvY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LQysyMZ ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LQysyMZNXU&feature=related)
Then there's this one... Pretty bad... but he does have a high flow cat installed which would make the sound louder...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEJxRRN3TbA
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