so i was thinking.. and..

[xXGTBspecXx]

i was thinking after i start my new job at under armour, id be making more then enough money to pay for this legacy to be finished and have enough for another legacy and look for my own place.. so after this was all thought out... i want to know how hard it would be to find a legacy Postal wagon.. being that my dream car is a GT-bspec legacy 95-99(bodystyle)and turn it into a full fledged GTB.. now ive come accross one before but they wanted 10k for it and it had nearly 300,000 on the ODO. so what im really asking here is. do you guys know of any states that seem to be well populated with the postal wagons?


thanks ,jimmy

[blackgtbeauty]

Buy Paul's from ECS.

Car is effing mint.

[xXGTBspecXx]

im looking for a project i want to do all the work on it myself but il look into it. thanks

[Reuben]

EJ20R/EJ22G Hybrid engine! Do it!

Jast ask me if you need JDM parts, i can ship stuff over. I've looked into it already, a set of bilsteins would costs $300 US, and $330 to ship to the states, stuff like an ECU for example are $70 US $30 to ship. We have STACKS of JDM bits here man.

[Mr. Sociable]

I've seen at least three for sale in CO, all under $6500.

[xXGTBspecXx]

thanks guys this will really help me out in the long run.. quick question does anyone knoe if i need a different crossmember to run a wrx turbo setup on my legacy?

[xXGTBspecXx]

EJ20R/EJ22G Hybrid engine! Do it!

Jast ask me if you need JDM parts, i can ship stuff over. I've looked into it already, a set of bilsteins would costs $300 US, and $330 to ship to the states, stuff like an ECU for example are $70 US $30 to ship. We have STACKS of JDM bits here man. reuben when i get the postal wagon youll be the first to know....

[Reuben]

Just make sure it's an outback, if you get a BK, i'll shoot you! Stepped roof FTMFW

And cross-members? AFAIK turbo and N/A gearbox cross-members are the same.

TT ones are shaped funny, it's one of the items in my single conversion list. I have a WRX one in mine, but i was told i could use and N/A one too. (I'm not actually using an N/A one, so you can class that as speculation)

And I'm always here to help. There is also www.ClubSUB.org.nz (http://www.ClubSUB.org.nz), we deal almost exlusivly with JDM down here in NZ, and speak english! (Not american, you'll have to remember to say bonnet and boot :wink:)





BTW, i don't think it's been said yet, so i'll say it now. Do NOT bother with TT. By all means buy an EJ20R, but for the love of sanity, convert it to single turbo! Single turbo is more reliable, easier to install, easier to fix, easier to drive, and has HEAPS more potential. If you want to be "different": Twinscroll.

[Huffer]

And cross-members? AFAIK turbo and N/A gearbox cross-members are the same.

Incorrect my friend from Aucks, the turbo ENGINE x-members are different to account for the exhaust routing.

When someone talks about x-members they mean engine, not gearbox.

Paul's car from ECS is sick. It's a total RHD conversion - a real GTB here in the US. With the information from Reuben it'd be easy to switch it to a single turbo setup.

It'd still be unique, but the hard parts would already be done.

Had it been available when I was looking for my wagon, I'd have bought it in a heartbeat.

[Wiscon_Mark]

EJ20R/EJ22G Hybrid engine! Do it!

Do you mean EJ20G? There was never any EJ22G.

[decke48]

Buy Paul's from ECS.

Car is effing mint.

i think paul's wife will be mad :grin:

[Huffer]

Buy Paul's from ECS.

Car is effing mint.

i think paul's wife will be mad :grin:

Nope.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?t=9442&highlight=

:grin:

[DOOK]

yeah I want that car bad

[Reuben]

EJ20R/EJ22G Hybrid engine! Do it!

Do you mean EJ20G? There was never any EJ22G.

Lol, my USDM Knowledge fails :lol:. I was meaning the EJ22"T".



And that "GTB" is sweet, nice conversion. I've got a few nitpicks but i wouldn't dare say. I love seeing USDM conversions, if i ever go to the US i'd love to bring a GTB over and do one myself. Considering they sell for like $2000-4000 US in japan, it'd be worth doing. Bring it in as a track car or something, swap every last big onto an outback, and.. well, nothing you can do legally with the old chassis is there? :(

Edit: On second thought... how much is it to ship a car in? Might it be cheaper than to build it up piece by piece? It would certainly ensure a complete conversion. Prices have plummeted for them a FECK load. Just check out trademe (NZ's idea of ebay). They are cheaper in japan too..

BG GTB's. (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/CategoryAttributeSearchResults.aspx?search=1&mcat=0001-0268-&sidebar=1&5=Station+Wagon&14=Subaru&15=Manual+GTB&18=0&18=0&24=1996&24=1998&searchRegion=100&x=45&y=4) Only showing manuals, auto's fail at life.

[xXGTBspecXx]

after alot of thought.. im now into a debate.. i want to make a full SCCA car to take to the track at summit point. after looking at this legacy for about an hour
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/
idont know if i want a sedan or a wagon to make a track car. a STi motor will be involved alog with a full rollcage setup(7 or 8 point).. i dont know for sure.. help me make decide wagon or sedan...


ADDED POLL to help make the desicion

[HotBoxer]

id give up my firstborn for that car in rally blue with some gold volks

[xXGTBspecXx]

LOL... i just did the math and il end up putting at least 10-15 thousand dollars into this project car. 8k for sti motor and driveline.2k to pass SCCA inspection(rollcage,fuel cell etc.) 5k for complete suspension,and other misc parts

[blackgtbeauty]

That car looks good in purple, very different.

[Plays_with_Toys]

What do you like better? It is your $15,000 decision.

[Huffer]

A sedan is going to be lighter, and probably more conventional to work with in regards to a cage...

A wagon is going to turn more heads for sure though.

But the suspension & drivetrain layouts are the same.

[Okin DaVanh]

i was thinking after i start my new job at under armour, id be making more then enough money to pay for this legacy to be finished and have enough for another legacy and look for my own place.. so after this was all thought out... i want to know how hard it would be to find a legacy Postal wagon.. being that my dream car is a GT-bspec legacy 95-99(bodystyle)and turn it into a full fledged GTB.. now ive come accross one before but they wanted 10k for it and it had nearly 300,000 on the ODO. so what im really asking here is. do you guys know of any states that seem to be well populated with the postal wagons?


thanks ,jimmy

Postal wagon huh???

Here ya go!

http://nh.craigslist.org/car/733350696.html

Still for sale too. It's a 95 for $800. It's not mine, but I did e-mail the owner and he still has it. Too bad he's up here. Not that it would matter, but it's an auto. from what he wrote me.

[Reason]

i was thinking after i start my new job at under armour, id be making more then enough money to pay for this legacy to be finished and have enough for another legacy and look for my own place.. so after this was all thought out... i want to know how hard it would be to find a legacy Postal wagon.. being that my dream car is a GT-bspec legacy 95-99(bodystyle)and turn it into a full fledged GTB.. now ive come accross one before but they wanted 10k for it and it had nearly 300,000 on the ODO. so what im really asking here is. do you guys know of any states that seem to be well populated with the postal wagons?


thanks ,jimmy

Postal wagon huh???

Here ya go!

http://nh.craigslist.org/car/733350696.html

Still for sale too. It's a 95 for $800. It's not mine, but I did e-mail the owner and he still has it. Too bad he's up here. Not that it would matter, but it's an auto. from what he wrote me.

oooooo :shock: You better get it before I do :wink:

[xXGTBspecXx]

gimmie a month and il buy that for sure

[Reuben]

BG! IMO go for the BG GTB dream man, if you want a sedan: 2.5RS (they are a far far FAR better chassis for track) And how many GTB conversions do you see out there compared to RSTi ones...


I think you need some wagon sense put into you. Here's the taupo track day we had a few months ago:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa208/Pilot_Reuben/Taupo%20Mega%20Meet%2008/megameet-11.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa208/Pilot_Reuben/Taupo%20Mega%20Meet%2008/megameet-12.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa208/Pilot_Reuben/Taupo%20Mega%20Meet%2008/megameet-14.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa208/Pilot_Reuben/Taupo%20Mega%20Meet%2008/megameet-17.jpg


This is an EZ30R converted beast, it sounds evil :twisted:

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa208/Pilot_Reuben/Taupo%20Mega%20Meet%2008/megameet-16.jpg

[xXGTBspecXx]

i love the wagon...thats why i have owned 2 but a sedan for.....wagon for a track car would be brilliant. quick question if you buy coilovers for a 02-04 wrx will it work for a leggy wagon?

[Reuben]

Dunno, i'm guessing yes though.

And if you want it as a dedicated track car, get a sedan. As cool as an awesome wagon would be, sedans are better for that aplication. I was suggesting wagon for a daily driver that can do the odd track day. All the pictured wagons there are daily drivers. :D

[xXGTBspecXx]

i already got a wagon !!:grin: why dont you look through member rides and look for my car

[xXGTBspecXx]

update: my friend and i are pithing in money to buy that postal wagon. well have the mola in 2 weeks give or take and ive already contacted the seller!!! SCCA wagon GTB'd out here i come!!!! WOOOT WOOT

[peugoby]

I guess I don't understand the desire for RHD in the US. Maybe as a dedicated track car... It just seems like it'd make passing on two roads a royal PIA.

If it was me I'd get a '96+ Outback (BG) solely for the raised roof. That postal wagon you'd be looking at will be a BK with a flat roof.

[Reason]

I think the desire for a RHD car is the exoticness of it. Coming from a community that LOVE JDM parts, a RHD car is the ultimate JDMness.

[pdawg]

If your looking for an autox car, and I know this is sacrilige, I'd buy a spec miata. Pound for pound the best autox car going.

[chuckthefuk]

sedan all the way.. to much weight difference with the wagon..

Legacy Sedan = Big Impreza!

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/
Sedan for the win

[xXGTBspecXx]

I think the desire for a RHD car is the exoticness of it. Coming from a community that LOVE JDM parts, a RHD car is the ultimate JDMness.

you speak my language!! yess it is the Ultimate JDMness!!!!!! and rhd cars are badasstastic!!

[peugoby]

I think the desire for a RHD car is the exoticness of it. Coming from a community that LOVE JDM parts, a RHD car is the ultimate JDMness.

Truth, RHD does score very highly in JDMness. I guess I'm just not that hardcore haha. Were BK's sold in Japan as well?

[Reuben]

Coming from a country that's well over 80% JDM for it's subies. Trust me, Raised roof IMHO is more important than RHD.

I could not live with seeing you convert a BK to a GTB... I mean... thats just not right...



I would think this one through thoroughly.



Have you looked into costs of buying every JDM part seperatly, over the cost to ship in a car to demolish and plunder? And considered the quality of conversion (i.e, full JDM interior and GTB running gear + engine over a look alike or partial conversion) in either case to the expense of either one?

I actually have no idea at all how expensive it is to ship a GTB in, it may be acceptable, but the red tape and loopholes you'd have to go through could slow you down.

[Huffer]

What difference does a raised roof make in terms of power Reuben? :roll: :lol:

[Reuben]

Nooone? :-(

It's just the looks, i have a problem with the flat roof thing that SOA decided was a good idea. A GTB with a flat roof.. well i saw that converted one on here and it was just wrong. I suppose those who live with USDM wouldn't notice, but it bothers the heck out of me..

If he went sedan, he wouldn't get that problem, lol. Further reason to think it through properly. And time for me to shutup :oops:

Insert adw_terror's RSB (http://www.tamparacing.com/photopost/data/500/Untitled-1_copy.jpg) here:


https://sl-i.net/FORUM/

[Wiscon_Mark]

sedan all the way.. to much weight difference with the wagon..

I don't disagree, but I'm curious how much different you think the weight of a wagon and sedan really is.

[rougeben83]

Wagon is too top heavy for a proper track car. There's a slight aero advantage with the roofline (in which case, a raised roof would defeat that advantage anyway) of a wagon, but you're going to be at a 200-300lb disadvantage at the start of the project (and at the wrong end of the car too).

Do you want a competively setup track Legacy or something to just play around in?

[chuckthefuk]

sedan all the way.. to much weight difference with the wagon..

I don't disagree, but I'm curious how much different you think the weight of a wagon and sedan really is.

Curb Weight: sedans : 2570-3045, Wagons:2685-3135

Also to add the Wagons had less weight in the front and more in the rear due to the suspension and added roof + tail gate.

[Wiscon_Mark]

Those must be dry curbweights, the official thread on Nasioc has the sedans starting out at 2885, and the wagons 2950.

I'd say the more weight in the back is a good thing, considering the wagon has almost a perfect 50/50 weight ratio. The only downside is that the weight is a little higher in the back.

[peugoby]

I'm with Reuben. I really way the raised roof looks. My favorite look is when they are rackless & are equipped with the dual sunroofs. The dual sunroofs would not be beneficial however to what the OP is trying to build. They must add a lot of weight lol.


Those must be dry curbweights, the official thread on Nasioc has the sedans starting out at 2885, and the wagons 2950.
.

Hmm that's so weird to me. I weighed my Legacy (awd 5 - speed) "L" with a full tank of gas and a couple of snowbords + gear in @ 2,750lbs. That was without me in it of course. Next time I'm at a weigh station I'll snap a pic.

[MCarp22]

I'm amused at the "full SCCA track car" comment. You don't seem to have a plan beyond blowing a lot of money on the car? Most people start out with a "I'm building this car for this class" type of project. What class are you plan on running this thing in?