new car

[kinkbmx4407]

i am looking at getting a 2006 legacy gt turbo.
i was just wondering what would be the best thing to add first for performance?

[Huffer]

1. Driver training
2. Tires
3. ECUTek or Cobb Accessport reflash
4. Uppipe & downpipe (plus tune)
5. Suspension upgrades

Obviously 3+4 could be done at the same time, but even an ECUtek reflash/tune on a stock engine & turbo nets some good numbers and fuel economy increases.

My 2c.

[DOOK]

I'm always a fan of addressing suspension/braking/tires before any power adders... my motto is to have the slow before the go

[deadlydave]

I'll ask the same question I ask everyone.

"What do you want to do with the car?"
"Where would you like the car to be, performance wise, when you are 'done'"?

[subba]

Get used to the car first then you will subconsciously decide what you want to do first.

[99gtlimited]

subconsciously deciding....


sounds tough

[kinkbmx4407]

i am loking to bump up the hp a much as i can.

[Huffer]

^^ why? For bragging rights?

[Airgne]

i have learned on many diff builds that suspension and drivetrain need to be added first before "real power upgrades". intake and exhaust dont count as big power gains in my book. a car with 300hp at the gbround and not handleing is worth crap.

[kinkbmx4407]

no im not looking for braging rghts. just looking to have a lot of hp for myself. and i am going to go all out. put everything in it including handling performance

[Huffer]

But why do you need a lot of HP?

How many people really need 300hp+? Stock the car comes with 250hp, which can easily be made into 300whp with just a few supporting mods and a good tune.

I've driven some fast vehicles, and some slow ones. But the bottom line is only a few of us really "need" more than 200hp. 60mph is still 60mph.

It really doesn't mean squat if you're building a high HP car just for kicks - in that case you should really buy a high HP car up front and just roll in it.

Building a car from scratch, based on the fact that you don't really seem to understand that the Suby motors aren't designed for stupid power without some really expensive modifications, and then not really having a useful goal for all that power doesn't make a lot of sense.

[DOOK]

totally agree with huffer... if you're looking for street cred and being flashy, start with something other than a legacy, but if you're stuck on a legacy and you're asking us, save yourself the trouble and buy one already built.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthr ... ?t=1520762 (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1520762)

[kinkbmx4407]

i am just looking to make it all around good. and i am willing to put money in it. and yes i want to do it to a legacy

[deadlydave]

i am just looking to make it all around good. and i am willing to put money in it. and yes i want to do it to a legacy

Ok, that helps some. I'd Say, go in this order:
-Upgrade brake pads. (cheap)
-Lighter wheels, stickier tires. (not cheap)
-(insert brand here) intake. (cheap)
-Coilover suspension, or Buy Bilstein Struts and more agressive springs. (not cheap)
-Cat-back exhaust and a tune(not cheap)

Then, see how you like it. You're looking at more than 3 thousand bucks with that stuff. However, some of the stuff will help your gas milage.

Are you going to take it to a track or autocross, or you just want a 'fun' car to DD? The key is to start with a 'vision' of what you want your car to be when you're done.

Most big-HP cars aren't very fun around town. They're loud, bad on gas, and laggy off the line.

[kinkbmx4407]

ok thanks.

and i think eventually i would want to ake it to the trak butim not 100% on that tho.

at first it will just be a dd