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xXGTBspecXx
07-07-2008, 12:43 AM
i want to make this bullet proof. since im investing 1 or 2 thousand dollars.

if i bought complete coilovers for a wrx(including tophats) would they fit my BK(1998 Legacy GT wagon)? im looking at my options and they are:

Bilstein PSS9 / TEIN Flex with the EDFC / HKS Hypermax III...

il be doing my suspension very soon and i want to go with coilovers cause i want performance over comfort.

PS im most likly going with the TEIN Flex with the EDFC.

Sarra
07-07-2008, 01:33 AM
LMK how it goes. I'm currently looking for an AutoX suspension, and I've been considering the Cusco Zero2R.

Now, from what I've heard, the EDFC unit for the TEIN will not fit on a Legacy, there's a clearance issue between the top had and the bottom of the hood. I don't know if TEIN has released an EDFC that is Legacy friendly, but I had heard they were going to do so.

I think you should hack your hood up, if it's a slight clearance problem, like cut a little bit of the spport out of the way or something. Otherwise, just get the TEIN Flex without the EDFC, you just can't adjust it on the fly.

MCarp22
07-07-2008, 01:53 AM
Is this for ultimate SCCA track racer pro?

Based on my good experience with the factory GT-B bilsteins, and relatively poor experiences with tein on various cars, my money would go with the PSS9 setup.

With the PSS setup. you'll get real dampers that most shops can rebuild / revalve, and valving that actually works well. The only thing that is missing is an adjustment knob so that you can mess up the force settings.

Most of the asian shocks are too stiff in the high-speed range so that it feels sporty and overdamped. I've never been terribly impressed with them. I also think the EDFC is mostly a gimmick, a properly setup damper wouldn't need adjustment in the first place.

xXGTBspecXx
07-07-2008, 02:41 AM
this will be a street only car. the reason i want to go all out with suspension is cause.... ive gotten sucked into a sport called........
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touge racing( going fast through a twistie backroad at like 2 am). and the stock suspension isnt cutting it..

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as for my track legacy when i get it il be going with the tein flex and edfc setup regardless.. but i still want to be 100% positive that a wrx suspension will bolt up to my car with no problems.. on a side note the PSS9s are nice but they are also almost $500-$800 more then my other choices. i have a good source for cheap coilovers *snicker snicker* :grin:

Huffer
07-07-2008, 07:03 AM
"touge" racing. :lol: I like all these fancy names for stuff that people just do.
uphill, downhill, mountain climb, point to point...

Ok, well if you're not racing on a flat, well-prepared surface like a racetrack or even a decent autox parking lot, then a street-prepared damper like the Bilstein is going to be far better than a overdamped, hard riding Jap-spec coilover.

the stiffer the strut/spring, the less ability you have to absorb the natural undulations of the real world road. When you hit that bump with very firm suspension, your tire will launch, not roll over the bump. You'll lose traction and road feel.

You'll literally be hanging on to steer, instead of being smooth on the throttle and guiding the car around.

My 2c is to find some Bilstein spec dampers and go with a progressive coil spring. 9/10 you'll find the difference isn't in the suspension, but the driver. And most of us are not as good of a driver as we think we are.

xXGTBspecXx
07-07-2008, 11:10 AM
i might go off and spend the extra dough on the pss9 then...thanks

track8
07-07-2008, 08:46 PM
-1 on the budget Asian dampers. My track day car has a set and they too have WAY too much high speed compression damping, the car ricochets off sharp edged bumps encountered on places other than a race track. This is apparently typical of most (all?) low cost coilover setups.

It is also less than optimal on the track, but at least at my slowish pace it is manageable.

It's what makes an Ohlin an Ohlin. Or a Penske or Bilstein or Koni etc...

xXGTBspecXx
07-07-2008, 11:27 PM
-1 on the budget Asian dampers. My track day car has a set and they too have WAY too much high speed compression damping, the car ricochets off sharp edged bumps encountered on places other than a race track. This is apparently typical of most (all?) low cost coilover setups.

It's what makes an Ohlin an Ohlin. Or a Penske or Bilstein or Koni etc...

It is also less than optimal on the track, but at least at my slowish pace it is manageable. which set do you suggest? ive had nothing but good expeirences in my buddies wrx that has a full tein flex setup..

track8
07-08-2008, 12:22 AM
I'd say, If Koni Yellows can be installed with a set of Ground Control coils & collars that's where I'd start. Same for a Bilstein, if they make a similar mcstrut for a Legacy. I just looked at Koni's website & they do make a Koni sport damper for WRX's. I believe that with the correct GC springs, you would have an impressive setup. GC will even sell custom rate setups.

My 2 pesos.

xXGTBspecXx
07-08-2008, 12:28 AM
im looking for complete coilovers tophats/camber adjustment in front/coils/struts.. i really dont want to peice together different suspension peices.id rather get the whole shabang.

dplacencia
07-08-2008, 12:30 AM
I have Megan Racing Coilovers when I bought then the only cost me $850 Shipped noe they are bout $1000. The ride ols coilovers is very harsh. The car does handle really good. I still have to do my alignment. Once I do that with some swaybars I'm set.