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Reason
07-19-2008, 04:47 AM
Damn tranny grinds going into reverse all the time now. It got worse and worse since I got it now it does it all the time. Anybody have a remedy for this?

J.McDonald Knives
07-19-2008, 09:10 AM
Damn tranny grinds going into reverse all the time now. It got worse and worse since I got it now it does it all the time. Anybody have a remedy for this?Idle might be too high RPM or you need to bleed your clutch or your clutch master cylinder is going out. I'm pretty sure it has to do something with your clutch. And if it isn't then it has to be your gears and in which case you will need a rebuild.

shizznats
07-19-2008, 09:32 AM
My clutch does this from time to time too... sometimes I cant even get reverse in, i have to reclutch and try again...

J.McDonald Knives
07-19-2008, 09:35 AM
Looks like you will be finding a buddy that can press the clutch while you bleed it. Let us know how it works out.

decke48
07-19-2008, 09:54 AM
reverse is two non-mesh straight cut non-synro gears and a idler. when you engage reverse it pull the idler into the other two gears to mesh. so if you not at a complete stop or pushed in the clutch for 2 seconds the tranny is still spining making the idler grind before it can mesh. yeah shizznats that happens times to time just because the teeth arent aligned right

Reason
07-19-2008, 10:15 AM
I have a cable clutch line, it will be really hard to bleed that.... :smt017

decke48
07-19-2008, 10:17 AM
a nice adjustment then

Reason
07-19-2008, 10:24 AM
Maybe I'll see if I can do that. It's not my idle either, it stands at about 500rpms. And no matter how long I wait, or hold the clutch in and flop around the shifter or how fast or how slow I put it in reverse it grinds.

Sarra
07-19-2008, 01:15 PM
You've got a clutch problem. Your clutch isn't disengaging completely, so the input shaft of the transmission is still spinning when you have the clutch in.

You need to adjust the cable so that the throwout bearing completely disengages the clutch from the flywheel and pressure plate.

If your car has an automatic adjuster, it may be broken. I'm not familiar with Subaru's clutch cable setup though. :(

J.McDonald Knives
07-19-2008, 08:34 PM
If its cable then how old is it and how many miles you got on it and did you do much racing? You may have cable stretch and will need to replace it because just adjusting it will be temporary. I would suggest replacing it with a new cable and that should solve the problem for a few more years. If that doesn't fix the problem then its time to get a rebuild. Just like with bicycle brake cables your clutch cable can and will stretch over time and can stretch quicker depending on how much hard driving and hard shifting you do. Thats probably one of the reasons why Subaru switched to hydraulic clutches.

Sarra
07-19-2008, 08:59 PM
All cable clutches stretch over time, which is why they created automatic adjusters. It simply ratchets the excess slack out of the cable.

They switched to hydraulic because it's smoother, though there are more, and more complicated, reasons they switched. IIRC, the NA Subies got cable clutches up to 02 or 03, turbo has always had hydraulic.

J.McDonald Knives
07-19-2008, 09:02 PM
Mines hydraulic tho and its not a turbo.

Sarra
07-19-2008, 09:22 PM
That's right, I think the DOHC engines were an exception. I'll do some more research.

jjs316
07-21-2008, 04:36 PM
My clutch does this from time to time too... sometimes I cant even get reverse in, i have to reclutch and try again...

happens to me quite often too.

Benfolio
07-21-2008, 09:29 PM
I was told it's a clutch cylinder going bad. It does it sometimes, not often. Mostly if I try to throw in in R from N, but it's okay going from 1 to R.

Mikey97D
07-21-2008, 09:47 PM
Hopefully it's just the clutch cable.

Couple questions though:
1. When you push the clutch in, does it feel smooth? Or does the resistance feel choppy?
2. Do you have an aftermarket clutch/pressure plate?

I'm not sure if this holds true for Subaru's, but I used to always shift to 2nd or 4th before shifting into reverse. On Chevy's it would set the synchro up for a smooth transition to reverse.......of course that was a Chevy with an Isuzu Tranny. :roll:

Reason
07-21-2008, 09:52 PM
Stock clutch and all, I guess it smooth. If the radio is off you can hear the cable.

J.McDonald Knives
07-21-2008, 09:54 PM
Stock clutch and all, I guess it smooth. If the radio is off you can hear the cable.Id say you need a new cable. What might have happened is that the cable got really dry with no lubrication which caused it to stretch even quicker than normal.

Airgne
07-22-2008, 12:48 AM
put it into 2nd than go to reverse for some reason this works more often than not.

peugoby
07-22-2008, 01:04 AM
put it into 2nd than go to reverse for some reason this works more often than not.

same for me.

rougeben83
07-22-2008, 01:32 AM
rev engine slightly before slipping it into reverse. That usually solves a lot of those problems.

Reason
07-22-2008, 05:17 AM
put it into 2nd than go to reverse for some reason this works more often than not.


rev engine slightly before slipping it into reverse. That usually solves a lot of those problems.

I'll try both of those, but I rather have the actual problem fixed at some point. Where is the adjustment for the clutch cable?

Sarra
07-22-2008, 10:36 PM
Under the dash, at the end of the clutch pedal.

Reason
07-22-2008, 10:45 PM
I did from gear to reverse and no grinding. I'll look into the adjustment tomorrow.