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2deadlegs
10-08-2005, 01:23 AM
To all the new members that come to this section to say hello:

We here at SL-i welcome you to our site. We are not sure how you found us but you did and we are greatfull. Come on in, take off your jacket, slip off your shoes and stay a while. We like to think of our members as one great big family here at SL-i.

SO DON'T BETRAY THE FAMILY!!

If you are not going to stick around for longer than a week or just want to sap us for our knowledge and then bail...do us a favor and don't say hello. Register, get the info you need and be another statistic.

We don't like to get our hopes up and think we have another post whore such as Wiscon_Mark or myself.

Get it? Got it?? GOOD!

gator gt
10-08-2005, 01:38 AM
2DL...good pep-talk...thank you.

....but could you please tell me you still have a Subaru badge or something and list it in your car list.... :lol:

its kind of funny seeing you stand up for the Subaru site and list a Ford and a VW as owned vehicles.....

:lol:

please just list something like:

1991 Subaru Legacy 5 star grille badge
1994 Subaru Legacy AWD sticker

:lol: :-D

if I could find a ROFL emoticon, I'd employ it here....the irony is killing me.

:lol:

GGT

2deadlegs
10-08-2005, 02:05 AM
My PC has a Roo badge..I have a garage full of Roo parts. I have Tons of subaru LL Bean clothing.

I will buy another Subaru...It just has to be right. Right car, right time, right price, right location.

I've had more Subarus than most everyone on here.

I've had DL/GL's, Loyales, Legacys, a justy an RX....

I'm eyeballing a RHD gen1 wagon right now but I don't know if my wife is going to let me get it. I think she will if I promise to sell my truck.

gator gt
10-08-2005, 02:14 AM
I'm just bustin' your chops...kind of. I thought it'd be funny to see you list a Subaru badge up there.

Oh, I hear you about 'right car, right time, right price, etc'

Good luck with the search!!

GGT

2deadlegs
10-08-2005, 02:42 AM
I know you moderator types...

Always busting my chops.

Why aren't you on my AIM list? FLMUDJEEP

Wiscon_Mark
10-08-2005, 09:38 AM
hey nice pep talk.

Gator --- :smt046

gator gt
10-08-2005, 03:10 PM
I know you moderator types...

Always busting my chops.

Why aren't you on my AIM list? FLMUDJEEP


Hey, nice Subaru listing!! :lol:


Why am I not on your list....cause I'm not on AIM....

...yeah, something else to tie me to the computer.... :roll:

Thanks Mark.

GGT

RABID_SUB
10-08-2005, 03:40 PM
maybe they leave because they see someone posting all over the site w/ a pic of a vw, dont take it personnal I under stand you have much love the legacy and thats cool. just put up a badge or somethin.

Wiscon_Mark
10-08-2005, 03:56 PM
maybe they leave because they see someone posting all over the site w/ a pic of a vw, dont take it personnal I under stand you have much love the legacy and thats cool. just put up a badge or somethin.

Oh Snap! :lol:

2deadlegs
10-08-2005, 08:30 PM
I really wish you hadn't said that.....

I've had more Subarus in the last year than you have had your entire life.

And by the way....







































































https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2005/07/n00b15-1.jpg

CTGTDRIVER17
10-08-2005, 09:27 PM
2dl needs anger managment

ooberdoob
10-08-2005, 10:19 PM
perhap anger management would help.








lets just leave it that he's really really bitter about no subie, then it'll look like he's just really faithful.

gator gt
10-09-2005, 02:20 AM
And by the way....

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2005/07/n00b15-1.jpg



oh

my

goodness.


Mark, you got a 'head in the hand, shaking out of disbelief' emoticon?

GGT

ooberdoob
10-09-2005, 08:30 AM
that friggin pic still scares the hell outta me. i about throw shit at the screen every time i see it. someone should be castrated for creating that human. and that picture.

Wiscon_Mark
10-09-2005, 03:48 PM
Mark, you got a 'head in the hand, shaking out of disbelief' emoticon?
:smt009
sorry dude. I'm surprised you haven't seen it before.



that friggin pic still scares the hell outta me. i about throw shit at the screen every time i see it. someone should be castrated for creating that human. and that picture.

ditto

2deadlegs
10-10-2005, 12:09 AM
I bet you Rabid is foaming at the mouth now!

Don't make me post up Mr. STFU with your thirteen, direct to the stomach rabies shots boyeeeeeeeeeee.

Now get a grip, post a pic.....and lets get on with our lives.

If I lived in Kansas I would be rabid too. DRiving down 70 towards Colorado gives most people flashbacks to Children of the corn flicks. It's just not cool to have no cellphone coverage or radio stations. You need an XM just to keep your sanity out there......you know I'm right. BBQ kicks ass though!!

galek_98gt
10-10-2005, 09:37 PM
just maintaining post quota http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/eek5.gif

























































































http://forums.offtopic.com/images/smilies/hsughr.gif

2deadlegs
10-11-2005, 02:13 PM
Galek you have a quota??

RABID_SUB
10-11-2005, 06:29 PM
I love I-70. rollin 110 just listenin to my Legacy. who needs radio, maybe u for got what that feels like. VW's just dont sound as good.
Rabid
1 a: extremly violent :FURIOUS b: going to extreme lenghts in expressing or pursuing a feeling, intrest, or opinion.
some words have more than one meaning. Crack open a copy of the dictionary.
who cares about the past, try livin in the now.

galek_98gt
10-11-2005, 07:34 PM
Galek you have a quota??

just a run on to your other thread.

2deadlegs
10-12-2005, 12:09 PM
Ahhh......

Rabid, I can't tell you how many Subarus I have driven from CO to FL and back.

Don't be jealous that I only paid $500 for my car.

RABID_SUB
10-12-2005, 01:24 PM
Ever hear the frase, quality not quanity. :roll:

Huffer
10-12-2005, 02:12 PM
Ever hear the frase, quality not quanity. :roll:

+1

Reason
10-12-2005, 02:38 PM
Ever hear the frase, quality not quanity. :roll:

The problem with this forum.....

2deadlegs
10-12-2005, 03:18 PM
My cousin has his dealers license...What should I buy today?

You tell me what you drive, what you paid for it and I will go buy one and tell you what I paid for it. Better yet I will buy two of them.

This way I will get quantity and quality. BOO YAAAA!!!

Where should I send the flame suit to?

We are still waiting on those pictures and info on your ride Rabid.

Wiscon_Mark
10-12-2005, 03:43 PM
Ever hear the frase, quality not quanity. :roll:

The problem with this forum.....

hey now!

2deadlegs
10-12-2005, 03:49 PM
The people that stick around and actually bother to post are of quality.

RABID_SUB
10-12-2005, 03:52 PM
friend of mine owns a dealership. got my 96 LS for $800 with 71000 miles on it. as for pics Im not good with coputers, Im tryin to figure out how to get them off my phone on to this site.

2deadlegs
10-12-2005, 04:00 PM
I think you have to e-mail the pics to yourself or you could e-mail them to me. Then you have to find someplace to host them such as photobucket or image shack.

If you e-mail me some pics I will resize one of them for you for your avatar and then host them all on my site and then you can link to them.

It's fairly easy to do.

PM me if you want my e-mail address.

Huffer
10-12-2005, 04:00 PM
The people that stick around and actually bother to post are of quality.

Yup, certainly are
http://www.sl-i.net/FORUM/search.php?se ... =2deadlegs (http://www.sl-i.net/FORUM/search.php?search_author=2deadlegs)

2deadlegs
10-12-2005, 04:04 PM
Wow!!

You posted a link to all my posts.

What was the point of that???

Wiscon_Mark
10-12-2005, 05:45 PM
Witty guy...if you post a link to all my posts...you won't get all of them :lol:

Natoe
10-14-2005, 02:08 PM
truthfully.... there arent very many cool subarus on this site, not trying to be too disrespectful, but prove me wrong with some pics somewhere. 2DL, you say you had all those subarus, all ea engine.... welcome to the 90's get an EJ shell and do a swap and ill have respect.

and whats with all the people who list their subaru wagon "mods" (haha) like a K&N and a grounding kit!? :wink:

2deadlegs
10-14-2005, 02:48 PM
LOL!!!

I've had 4 gen1 legacys. (2) BJ's and (2) BC's

One of the BJ's got a JDM EJ20 quad cam swap. I know my way around the EJ's.

Thanks for asking.

Wiscon_Mark
10-14-2005, 10:52 PM
yeah, we don't have the "tricked out Legacies" for the most part, but...

See These Member pages:

Bakergtt
Cajual
Xcntrik
Fibuz

They've all got some nice Legacies, at least in my opinion.

Yeah, we kinda like the creative mods, we're not all about swapping in a monster turbo (although I wouldn't say no :lol:) but we like the finer points of the Legacy too ;)

Enh, the site can speak for itself, I guess I'm trying to impress you, but whatever...

Reason
10-15-2005, 05:38 AM
truthfully.... there arent very many cool subarus on this site, not trying to be too disrespectful, but prove me wrong with some pics somewhere. 2DL, you say you had all those subarus, all ea engine.... welcome to the 90's get an EJ shell and do a swap and ill have respect.

and whats with all the people who list their subaru wagon "mods" (haha) like a K&N and a grounding kit!? :wink:

Yea sorry we don't rock body kits and fake BOV sounds buddy. You stick with the cosmetics we will take care of the driving.

2deadlegs
10-15-2005, 07:38 PM
Natoe must be the owner of the "Legstacy" LMMFAO!!!

Yall ever seen that thing...
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/577000-577999/577637_37.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/577000-577999/577637_28_full.jpg

Natoe
10-15-2005, 09:13 PM
HAHA, well i didnt think id provoke such strong feelings, but that was kinda my point.

to clear things up, dont think im a guy who would put a f*cking body kit on. no. my car has 13" steelies, dents and shit, i could really care less. my 95 impreza coupe has a legacy turbo swap and its in its first few stages. i am rewiring it now, and found an OBS which ill be taking all the awd stuff and rear suspension to make my car AWD since i roasted the FWD clutch with the new engine.

"Yea sorry we don't rock body kits and fake BOV sounds buddy. You stick with the cosmetics we will take care of the driving."

i dont know where you got that impression, but im pretty sure ill take care of some of the driving myself. i plan to rallycross my car once im done with the swaps. also my car is stripped to the floorboards etc, weighs <2400 lbs, aka i dont give a shit about looks.

im glad to see you guys final sticking up for yourself. wasnt sure at first with all the pink everywhere :wink:

anyways, peace out

phi11
10-15-2005, 11:34 PM
cherry blossom red

Wiscon_Mark
10-16-2005, 12:00 AM
cherry blossom red

:lol:

Natoe- I didn't take any offense (or not very much, I guess :P) but I guess you tweaked a nerve with Shane and 2DL...an Impreza with an EJ22t swap is something to behold. Certainly better than a WRX, and probably as good as an STi (IMO, those blocks rock). I really respect you for what you've done (although I'd like to see some pics :twisted:).

2DL- That Legstacy comment was low :shock: :lol:

2deadlegs
10-16-2005, 01:32 AM
The dude comes in and starts talking shit to long time members while not even knowing the history of my subarus.

I guess I should have added my 20B powered gen1 RX-7 (did the swap)

My B4C eddition camaro powered S-10 Blazer (did that too) Did I mention it was body dropped with a complete 6' frame bridge, 4 link suspension, bagged all the way around...and yes it layed frame. Did I mention that I did that too?

An engine awap...ooohhhh.

I put a supercharged LT1 into a gen2 RX-7 with a tubed chassis.

Then I had kids....wait! I did the engine swap on my 90 BJ after my second son was born.

Hey Mark and Reason...my signiture will once again say..."I protect..." in just a few short days. Yes I will post up pics soon of pimp and ho night.

Natoe
10-16-2005, 04:40 AM
there you go again, flaunting... tisk tisk. thats cool youve done all that stuff, except the blazer. im 18 by the way. in college. with no money.

mark- i respect your humbleness, i understand if you enjoy the finer points, im just glad to see it wasnt anybody trying to show off.

lemme try and upload some pics, or even better ill give you a link to my nasioc thread with some pics

Natoe
10-16-2005, 04:51 AM
my engine bay
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/7025/engineswap0044io.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
outside
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/634/engineswap0097jl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
funny (its worked for 1000 miles...)
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9868/engineswap0019vl.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
dang it was a pain to get my computer to paste the links in this forum ..???

Natoe
10-16-2005, 04:55 AM
one more for proof
http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/571/yoink5tf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

galek_98gt
10-16-2005, 06:39 AM
there you go again, flaunting... tisk tisk. thats cool youve done all that stuff, except the blazer. im 18 by the way. in college. with no money.

mark- i respect your humbleness, i understand if you enjoy the finer points, im just glad to see it wasnt anybody trying to show off.

lemme try and upload some pics, or even better ill give you a link to my nasioc thread with some pics

so you're now the most disrespectful 18yr old on the board. congratulations. is this the new thing of the generation behind mine?

your arrogance is getting annoying.

Wiscon_Mark
10-16-2005, 10:07 AM
wow, I guess I'm the only one that isn't completely offended.

that car is a total sleeper...wow.

shazapple
10-16-2005, 12:13 PM
http://simpsonovi.comics.cz/Futurama/Bender.gif

"I find that offensive!"

You should have used the Livewire Mountain Dew, I hear it gives you 5hp :lol:

Reason
10-16-2005, 01:23 PM
You should have used the Livewire Mountain Dew, I hear it gives you 5hp :lol:

I hear Jolt gives you 15HP!

Wiscon_Mark
10-16-2005, 03:04 PM
and whats with all the people who list their subaru wagon "mods" (haha) like a K&N and a grounding kit!? :wink:

Hmmm, I guess if I'd read a little slower I would've gotten this one, and would've been more pissed off. But I won't be anyways, because those are mods. Sure, I don't have a swap (frankly, NA Power is cooler anyways) but that's because I can't afford it! I do little creative things that cost me next to nothing, and I take pride in it. So Sorry if I don't have TWE Streetcams, A fidanza flywheel, tein coilovers, and complete Exhaust!

Natoe
10-16-2005, 07:52 PM
mark- thats why i said i respect your humbleness, i understand enjoying your car and taking pride in it, and not having any money to spend on it. (i scraped some together)

yaya galek blame it on my age, whatever. i admit i was an ass, felt like pissin you off to see how you react :wink: . lot better than i thought.

im gonna go look at the OBS tomarrow.... if its not too beat up id like to get it. anybody on this board done an AWD swap? ill be able to figure it out since i have both cars to work with, but any pointers? or should i put my engine into the OBS? haha that would be pretty sweet, but it weighs too much.

Wiscon_Mark
10-16-2005, 07:54 PM
it weighs too much? I think the only difference in weight should be the engine and the drivetrain (tranny and AWD system). I would say swap the engine into the OBS. We had a 99 OBS, and it was a really fun car. I liked the grille better than the older 'prezas too ;)

And find yourself some silicone hosing to replace that duct tape/can intake :?

Natoe
10-16-2005, 08:19 PM
well the OBS is 2850 stock, while the impreza is 2400. my impreza is a base model, has no extra weight like PW, PD, 2 less doors, is a little sportier (even though i love the way the OBS looks too). i agree with you about the grille, but i think im going to swap over the headlights, grille, and hood to my impreza. off colored but i dont really care.

bout the intake.. a guy i know from NASIOC and legacycentral.org is getting me an airbox for the legacy turbo which will bolt on to either impreza. there arent any leg turbs in the junkyards around here so yeah...

Wiscon_Mark
10-16-2005, 08:22 PM
didn't you say your impreza was FWD though? That would be the difference right there. The OBS is AWD. there was no impreza that I know of that was 2400lbs with AWD...

2deadlegs
10-16-2005, 10:23 PM
What Mark failed to mention is that he is limited to what he can do to his OBW seeing as how it is his dads car still.

I'm not knocking Mark in anyway. I just put my name on all my titles...ever since I Was 15.

We don't rock ghetto intakes. Half-ass just don't cut it. You will most likely fit in better over at www.USMB.net (http://www.USMB.net)

Wiscon_Mark
10-16-2005, 10:45 PM
when 2DL says ghetto, he doesn't mean it in the good sense.

Yes, my dad actually owns the car (cheaper for me) but he doesn't want me to spend any large amount of money on it because of college coming up (I'm also 18, senior in HS). I suppose he's right... *sigh*

Reason
10-16-2005, 11:12 PM
i admit i was an ass, felt like pissin you off to see how you react :wink: . lot better than i thought.

The last 2 guys that did that, one got eaten alive and never came back and the 2nd was banned. I don't care how fun it is but this isn't other Subaru boards. This won't be a place for a kid to play games.

Natoe
10-17-2005, 12:10 AM
didnt start out as a game... haha, well im sorry about before, i was kinda past that after a couple posts, but 2dl keeps comin up with somethin! my ghetto intake is just temporary until i get it fixed... better than not being able to drive it. kinda the same thing as your "ghetto" VW in your picture... obviously crap, but it works for now k? gots to get by. *high five* to mark who has no money like me.

btw, whats wrong with duct tape wrapped around a plastic can? it doesnt leak air or anything... it WORKS

Natoe
10-17-2005, 12:18 AM
Yea sorry we don't rock body kits and fake BOV sounds buddy. You stick with the cosmetics we will take care of the driving.

btw reason... maybe a little hipocritical..? i think you list enough cosmetic mods to cover the whole nasioc board. no offense to your mods, just pointing out what you said...

galek_98gt
10-17-2005, 12:27 AM
Yea sorry we don't rock body kits and fake BOV sounds buddy. You stick with the cosmetics we will take care of the driving.

btw reason... maybe a little hipocritical..? i think you list enough cosmetic mods to cover the whole nasioc board. no offense to your mods, just pointing out what you said...

his sig only identifies 3, count them 3, cosmetic mods. the rest are performance and typical routine maintenance mods.

how bout you start thinking about what you're about to type before posting. you're the one who came into someone elses house and started mouthing off about how there's nothing special about the legacies here, where's the body kits so it's all show with no go.

i don't care about what your age is except when you choose to use it as some kind of sympathy ploy( oh i'm 18 with no money and in college, what i say is just ignorant playing don't be angry. )

Natoe
10-17-2005, 01:18 AM
ok, be angry then? not sure why you keep insisting my mindset is all show no go... didnt you see my car? its a pos

mark- i guess your right about the 2400 lbs, thats for FWD, but AWD doesnt add 400 pounds, probably just 100 more then FWD id guess. so 2500 or 2600ish minus what ive taken out of my car, and its still a lot lighter than a wagon. im guessing the impreza coupe has a lower center of gravity then the wagon. BUT the wagon supports a little more of a sleeper look, and if youve seen any wagons with turbos and an exhaust ( i say that cuz the boxer turbo has more distinct purr then just an NA) its a pretty awesome sight. another problem id have in the OBS is that it is OBDII, i think that makes it quite a bit more difficult to wire. maybe that was just for emissions *shrug* im in oregon so we dont have emmisions tests. thanks for bein somebody i can talk to, hehe

Wiscon_Mark
10-17-2005, 08:01 AM
the 95 Impreza wasn't OBDII??!! hmm, my Legacy is....

Yeah, wiring would be trickier...

Note: I have never seen Galek pissed off, maybe we should lock this thread?

2deadlegs
10-17-2005, 10:50 AM
I have an even better idea...

shazapple
10-17-2005, 12:42 PM
AWD... 100lb. You wish! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Reason
10-17-2005, 12:45 PM
Yea sorry we don't rock body kits and fake BOV sounds buddy. You stick with the cosmetics we will take care of the driving.

btw reason... maybe a little hipocritical..? i think you list enough cosmetic mods to cover the whole nasioc board. no offense to your mods, just pointing out what you said...

Hypocritical? Maybe but like Galek said I only have 3 cosmetic parts listed. Now if I were to say I have a bad ass Legacy (which I do) then you can say I'm being hypocritical. Your preza is a POS and you are knocking members rides. Grow up quick kid, you won't last long here.

2deadlegs
10-17-2005, 01:14 PM
Now that's.......the voice of reason.

I like pdwag and reasons ride. SWEET!!!

Natoe
10-17-2005, 01:14 PM
i was thinking the AWD would weigh about 100 lbs more on my car since i have probably removed about 50-100, so a total weight of 2500-2550 im guessing after weight taken out. and yeah- the 95 impreza was the last year of OBDI, (its actually considered OBD 1 1/2, because it was the transition but its as easy as OBDI) thats why the 95 is the sought after impreza to do swaps into, since its the last year of OBDI.

sorry for 'knockin' your rides, i just think its funny that you keep layin down stereotypes on me. (i WAS an ass, but really im not, are we done now? or is 2DL going to ban me anyways?) im not tryin to knock your visual parts either, i dont know what JDM legacy stuff looks like, but anything JDM has got to be better. on my car though, only visual thing id spend $ on is a hood scoop for when i custom intercool it.

2deadlegs
10-17-2005, 01:25 PM
Lets start this over...

Hi Natoe...I'm 2DL. I love legacys with a passion but I also buy other cars from time to time. You can ask any "posting" memeber on the board about my obsession with Subarus and they will tell you how crazy I am when it comes to cars.

I will tell you know that it is a PITA to turn a FWD into an AWD. The parts you will need to aquire are astounding. If you have an AWD donor car then you are one step ahead of the game. But if your AWD donor is not the same model as your patient, you will notice it most likely won't bolt up. Therefore putting you in search of more parts. Your car is shorter than an OBW so therefore you will have to outsource a shorter driveshaft. You will also need to make sure that your transfer is geared the same as your rear diff.

Just removing the rear diff from a Roo is a PITA! I know.

Please enjoy your time on the board...just don't try to bend our members out of shape.

Natoe
10-17-2005, 01:41 PM
hey, well i can say im obsessed as well, my friends get annoyed when all i talk about is cars, and especially subarus. i spend way too much time on forums, im mostly on NASIOC- thats where i learned everything. started checking out legacy forums since i got a legacy engine.

i didnt know that was true about different lengths...? i thought that since its an impreza outback sport its the same, and thought id done my research on that.. not POSITIVE though. isnt it the same chassis? i know the hood will fit once you change over to the newer headlights as well. matching the diff and tranny wouldnt be a problem since they are both from the same car. this is the first driveline work on a subaru ive done. ive looked around at junkyards and for the most part it seems like rear suspension is the same, even in early legacies, as the impreza. i know i need odd parts like the fuel tank, fuel seperator, etc, but dont you think ill have everything necessary since i have the whole car? worst case scenario, i have to put my engine in the OBS and wire it up there which would be a PITA.
thanks for any help

2deadlegs
10-17-2005, 01:53 PM
IMO....put your engine in the OBW. It's sooooo much easier. You can use the stock computer (unless it was a turbo) but for the most part it will bolt/wire up.

You have done EJ swaps before, you should know they come out in about 30 minutes.

When you put your engine in the OBW, change the motor mounts (STi) and clean up the engine bay while you have it out.

Put an EJ25 (phase 2) in to the impreza...true sleeper.

Natoe
10-17-2005, 03:32 PM
if i put it in the EJ22T into the OBS, it wont wire right up. i have to swap ecus, harnesses, splice crap in, its OBDII so it would be hard.

i was running the turbo motor on my NA1.8L ECU and it was really rough and bad (i dont reccommend doing that). taking out the engine is easy enough. im sure the tranny wont be hard, rear suspension is a little more tricky but very doable. (even rear shocks are different in the 2WD)

2deadlegs
10-17-2005, 04:16 PM
I think I remembered why I love the gen1's so much.

When I did the EJ20 DOHC sawp into my 90 BJ, I just had to change over a few sensors (japan doesn't use certain ones) and extended some of the sensor leads but for the most part it was a snap!

Check to see if most of the sensors from your EJ22 are that same as what came out of the OBW. YOu might be able to just change out some of the sensors.

I wouldn't rule out the swap untill you have checked all your options.

We know it will bolt up. If they are both N/A then you can retain your stock ECU in the OBW. I kept the SOHC EJ22 ECU when I put the DOHC EJ20 into the BJ and it never gave me any problem. The only time you have to swap ECU's is if you are going turbo. (could be wrong but I doubt it)

Edit: Come to think of it I had to swap over the harness from the EJ22 because the EJ20's had been cut off. It was still easy. Put the OBS engine on a stand, pull up a chair and remove the harness and sensors. Then do the same with the EJ22. Then install the sensors and harness from the OBS while you have it on the stand and can take your time. (thats what I did)

shazapple
10-17-2005, 04:19 PM
I beleive hes talking about a Impreza outback, not a outback wagon. the OBS is the same body as yours.

2deadlegs
10-17-2005, 04:22 PM
I still think doing the AWD conversion would be more of a nightmare (wiring and parts) then just dropping the engine in the OBS.

My bad about the OBW confusion.

Natoe
10-17-2005, 04:30 PM
i think it will be a factory conversion. remember, subarus are like legos.
my car despite having different rear end components, still has all of the mount up points of everything that the AWD cars do. should be as simple as taking off my x-member, putting the OBS on. there isnt any wiring with the transmission (5spd). same thing with the rear suspension.

also another reason i dont want to put it in the OBS is that id have to get the right front fender fixed, since it is massacred into the wheel well quite a ways.

anybody know the difference of wiring into OBDI vs OBDII?

2deadlegs
10-17-2005, 04:47 PM
What you seem to forget is that the AWD system is electronicly controlled. I am almost willing to bet the TCU will be different.

Natoe
10-17-2005, 05:05 PM
...how is it electronically controlled? its a 97 tranny...... arent only newer cars and old automatics controlled that way? my FWD tranny has no electrical components whatsoever

RABID_SUB
10-17-2005, 05:05 PM
why dont you just sell both your subarus to 2dl, and put your engine in a justy :P

2deadlegs
10-17-2005, 05:12 PM
Justys just suck!!

My 90 BJ had electronicly controlled AWD. Bet that OBS is too...

There is a fuse holder under the hood of all AWD roos so that you can install it and shut off the AWD in case your vehicle needs to be towed or FWD dyno'ed.

I am willing to bet it is tied into the TCU.

RABID_SUB
10-17-2005, 05:18 PM
[quote="2deadlegs"]Justys just suck!!]

but they kinda look like vw golfs :lol:

2deadlegs
10-17-2005, 05:27 PM
I just sold the golf.....so bite me!! BEEOTCH!!

How do you like the pic rabid? Work out for you?

RABID_SUB
10-17-2005, 05:32 PM
Works out well thanks.

thank god you sold that thing, maybe people will stop given ya
crap. are ya gonna buy a new leg?

2deadlegs
10-17-2005, 05:49 PM
Waaaaayyyy ahead of you....

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2005/10/d0_1JPG-1.jpg

RABID_SUB
10-17-2005, 05:58 PM
96 L?
looks good.

RABID_SUB
10-17-2005, 06:02 PM
what color you call that? looks turd brown, HAHAHAHA. :lol:

2deadlegs
10-17-2005, 06:40 PM
Correction....doo doo brown!!

shazapple
10-17-2005, 07:42 PM
R Kelly edition?

Natoe
10-17-2005, 07:51 PM
hahahaha

i am almost 100% sure that the imprezas, including the OBS, don't have a TCU. should be a direct swap. (think about all the computer would control in the tranny... electricity can only do so much!)

Wiscon_Mark
10-17-2005, 08:02 PM
or is 2DL going to ban me anyways?

:smt043 :smt043 :smt043 :smt043

:smt042 :smt042 :smt042 :smt042 :smt042 :smt042

:smt081 :smt081 :smt081 :smt081 :smt081 :smt081

:toothy7: :toothy7: :toothy7: :toothy7:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

tears of laughter....

Wiscon_Mark
10-17-2005, 08:08 PM
hahahaha

i am almost 100% sure that the imprezas, including the OBS, don't have a TCU. should be a direct swap. (think about all the computer would control in the tranny... electricity can only do so much!)

the 5MT versions are not electronically controlled...

2DL, the autos have that fuse, but there's no way to do it on a manual tranny, its all mechanical (50/50 power split) on a 5MT

2deadlegs
10-17-2005, 08:45 PM
Well....anybody else want to chime in on this?

Maybe you will get lucky and it will all just bolt up. It's still a PITA!!

Natoe
10-17-2005, 08:52 PM
i really dont think it will be much of a PITA.... the mechanical part is the fun part, the only PITA will be rewiring my engine to the correct ECU. i had a blast doing the engine swap, despite breaking a tap off in my car.... getting spilled on etc, it was awesome, im looking forward to getting to do this.

2deadlegs
10-17-2005, 08:58 PM
It's really not that hard.

Suck it up spunky!!

Natoe
10-17-2005, 09:04 PM
exactly... i thought you were saying its a PITA...
the wiring part isnt hard, i just dont know how to do it. so im gonna get help from a guy in town who just did a jdm wrx swap into his 95 impreza.

RABID_SUB
10-17-2005, 09:47 PM
I thought this was a legacy site. whats with all the impreza talk? :?

Wiscon_Mark
10-17-2005, 10:31 PM
Rabid- First of all, we love all subarus, but the focus is on the legacy. Second of all, the EJ22T (the engine Natoe has) is a Legacy SS engine (91-94) and therefore applies to the Legacy.

We have a couple of SVX and Impreza owners here too...

phi11
10-17-2005, 10:42 PM
ya, should we make an Impreza thred,
oh no................................
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"Oh Yeah!"
(Kool-Aid man)

shazapple
10-17-2005, 11:19 PM
http://www.planet-familyguy.com/pfg/images/characters/koolaid_tn.jpg

2deadlegs
10-17-2005, 11:59 PM
I was saying that the engine/sensor wiring isn't that hard. Just need patience.

Natoe
10-18-2005, 12:32 AM
ya hopefully get it done in one day with experianced help.

impreza thread? heeell yeah. thats where id hang out. not to sound arrogant anymore, but i know quite a bit about imprezas, way more than i do about legacys.... *hint* oh yeah your probably still upset with me, i understand. i know my way in and out of the the compatabilities, swaps (soon more), and general JDM models etc. i duno, itd be cool.

RABID_SUB
10-18-2005, 03:03 AM
[quote="Wiscon_Mark"]Rabid- First of all, we love all subarus, but the focus is on the legacy. Second of all, the EJ22T (the engine Natoe has) is a Legacy SS engine (91-94) and therefore applies to the Legacy.

Who cares L stands for Legacy rite. Dont come on this site raggin on our rides if you dont own a leg,.It's like havin a Leg with a small block chevy in it, just not cool :!:

Natoe
10-18-2005, 03:19 AM
man bug off, i said im sorry. having a legacy with a small block chevy would be hilarious. but its not subaru.
i have an impreza, with one of the neatest legacy engines subaru made. its not astonishing, but i also enjoy the more grown up appeal of legacys. imprezas and legacys were both built for the same reason, rally, and came in the same trim packages, L, etc. and now dont be the one who cant get along with subaru enthusiasts. dont be hatin the prez!

RABID_SUB
10-18-2005, 03:22 AM
so just who says Legs are grown up, and subs are for rally? I like class and Legs have it

Reason
10-18-2005, 03:51 AM
First off the Kool-Aid man kicks ass! 2nd I thought about gauging interest on a section for other Subarus (like Subarus sites do to us!). 3rd, if Natoe says he's sorry just let it be. You came off and rubbed us the wrong way. Try to keep yourself in check, or I will. Until then enjoy SLi :-D

RABID_SUB
10-18-2005, 04:00 AM
My bad, I'll be nice. Sorry Natoe.

Wiscon_Mark
10-18-2005, 08:06 AM
Nothing like an Admin's fury to keep you in check :twisted:

shazapple
10-18-2005, 09:42 AM
so just who says Legs are grown up, and subs are for rally?

SWRT says they're for rally :-D
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2005/10/legacy92-1.jpg

http://www.speedtv.com/_assets/library/img/large/71904_solb.jpg

phi11
10-18-2005, 10:01 AM
sha_zapple +1 Kool-Aid point

2deadlegs
10-18-2005, 11:19 AM
You kids play nice now.

I second the vote for an ALT Roo section. Take that foul mouth impreza speak elsewhere. BAM! IT hit me! They talk about imprezas all the fucking time over at Nabisco and 2.5RS and USMB.

Natoe
10-18-2005, 03:04 PM
k so now YOU are anti subaru enthusiasts too? oook then.
nasioc is the king, there is so much subaru knowledge there, it doesnt matter what model you come from. rs25.com is a stupid site for ricers with 2.5RS's, sad to shame such a great car but true. never messed with USMB.com *shrug* so your saying nasioc should get rid of their legacy forums? cant we just..be?

2deadlegs
10-18-2005, 03:13 PM
www.SL-i.net (http://www.SL-i.net) = subaru LEGACY international

Not Subaru legacys and imprezas

Natoe
10-18-2005, 03:40 PM
NASIOC
North American Subaru IMPREZA Owners Club
they have legacy forums etc.
you obviously dont get the jist of what i was getting at

2deadlegs
10-18-2005, 03:43 PM
I do...I'm just giving you a hard time..LOL!!

shazapple
10-18-2005, 03:59 PM
Youre not very good at this whole forum/internet thing are you Natoe :lol: Chill out! 2DL = official n00b hazer, and you're failing :lol:

2deadlegs
10-18-2005, 04:02 PM
Did I post the STFU guy yet for Natoe?

phi11
10-18-2005, 04:51 PM
It's like someone pee'd in the Kool-aid!




new flavor.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2005/10/koolaid7thumb-1.jpg

Wiscon_Mark
10-18-2005, 06:02 PM
Phi11, that's hilarious

Natoe- Shazapple is right, he's just hazin' you.

As for appreciating all subarus, we do. We'd just appreciate if anything not off topic is kept to Legacy Related Discussion only, that's all ;)

Natoe
10-18-2005, 10:17 PM
ive seen the STFU guy.

so you guys dont like me testing you out, but your ok with hazing? haha jk i dont really give a shit.

oh yeah, about not being experianced on forums(though i kinda am)- but other forums dont feel the need to "haze", its pretty cool...

Wiscon_Mark
10-18-2005, 10:19 PM
enh, we don't really solicit hazing, 2DL just does it for fun, and we kinda let him run free :lol:

2deadlegs
10-19-2005, 12:11 AM
I am the resident post whore....

MArk is the Chief resident post whore.

We value all our members. Weither you have a DL, GL, Legacy, impreza, forester, SVX or any other model.

We can take it just as well as we can dish it out.

Natoe
10-19-2005, 01:37 AM
oh i can take it... just wasnt sure with all of you if you were serious or not.. haha

Natoe
10-19-2005, 01:38 AM
oh yeah, 2DL, nice to see the new pic