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99SUS SFD
10-27-2008, 03:09 PM
Courtesy of Car and Driver

Looks like the WRX is faster than the STi :shock:



2009 Subaru Impreza WRX - Short Take Road Test
The heavily revised and vastly improved WRX is quicker than an STI. Seriously.


October 2008



There are few problems that more horsepower can’t fix or at least help you ignore. And as a perfect case study, we bring you the 2009 Subaru Impreza WRX. Our first impression of the new-for-2008 WRX left us hot and cold. Interior quality, overall refinement, and noise isolation were vastly improved, but the WRX lacked the thrill of the previous car. The engine was largely unchanged, and weight gain was nonexistent, but the WRX came off as more of an Impreza GT than the street version of a rally car, a trait its predecessors had in spades. And with the Mazdaspeed 3, Chevrolet Cobalt SS, and Dodge Caliber SRT4 all making more than 260 horsepower, the WRX looked anemic by comparison with only 224 ponies on tap.

So Subaru has addressed these issues with a few updates, the most notable being a power boost to 265 horsepower, an increase of 41. These changes only apply to the manual-transmission WRX; the automatic continues unchanged in all but name and is now appropriately known as the Impreza 2.5GT. Subaru’s marketing plan is to align the 2.5GT with the naturally aspirated 2.5i model and liken the WRX to the 305-hp STI. To that effect, the WRX now shares a grille with the STI, and the optional body kit becomes standard. The five-door WRX also gets the rear spoiler from the STI.

Better Driving Through Air/Fuel Chemistry

The power comes primarily from a larger turbocharger, with maximum boost up to 13.3 psi from 11.9. A new catalytic converter and a larger exhaust—it provides 30-percent-better flow—help reduce back pressure from the increased boost. The power peak is 800 rpm higher at 6000 rpm. Torque is up to 244 pound-feet, an increase of 18 that comes at a relatively lofty 4000 revs, but there’s plenty of grunt starting at 2500 rpm.

And when we say "plenty," we mean it: the revised WRX now blasts to 60 mph from a standstill in an electrifying 4.7 seconds. That's 1.1 seconds quicker than the 2008 model—and get this—0.3 second quicker than we've managed in a WRX STI, the supposedly higher-performance version of the WRX. The fact that the WRX is now substantially quicker seems absolutely bonkers, but there are a couple of good explanations. First, the WRX STI weighs a hearty 180 pounds more than the base WRX, according to our scales. Second, the STI and its closer-ratio six-speed manual call for two shifts to 60, while the regular WRX's five speed hits 60 mph in second gear. By the time the pair travel a quarter-mile, the '09 WRX loses some ground, though; both cross the line at 102 mph, with the base Rex edging out the STI by just 0.1 second, 13.5 to 13.6.

It’s unlikely that the suspension upgrades to the 2009 WRX would warrant as much attention, if any, had the engine been left untouched. However, the WRX is now stiffer and sportier. The front upper strut mounts are borrowed from the STI, and the front and rear spring rates have increased 43 percent and 42 percent, respectively. The front and rear anti-roll bars have grown a millimeter in diameter to 21mm front and 16mm rear. Tire size has increased from 205/50R-17 to 225/50R-17, and the rubber (thankfully) changes from all-season Bridgestones to high-performance Dunlop SP Sport 01s. The valves on the steering have been updated to complement the new tires.


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2.5GT
10-27-2008, 03:53 PM
Still looks like poop :roll:

99SUS SFD
10-27-2008, 04:02 PM
I can handle the front end. But that's it.

SilentRacer
10-27-2008, 04:06 PM
The article doesn't say anything about the wrx being faster than the STI. It just says it shares a grill and some suspension components. They should call is a corolla gt.

Look familiar?
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2008/10/112_0801_06z2009_toyota_corolla_sprofile-1.jpg

2.5GT
10-27-2008, 04:06 PM
The only good thing that comes out of that pile of poop is the engine :lol:

99SUS SFD
10-27-2008, 04:09 PM
The article doesn't say anything about the wrx being faster than the STI. It just says it shares a grill and some suspension components. They should call is a corolla gt.

Look familiar?
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2008/10/112_0801_06z2009_toyota_corolla_sprofile-1.jpg

Read the second to last paragraph.

And when we say "plenty," we mean it: the revised WRX now blasts to 60 mph from a standstill in an electrifying 4.7 seconds. That's 1.1 seconds quicker than the 2008 model—and get this—0.3 second quicker than we've managed in a WRX STI, the supposedly higher-performance version of the WRX. The fact that the WRX is now substantially quicker seems absolutely bonkers, but there are a couple of good explanations. First, the WRX STI weighs a hearty 180 pounds more than the base WRX, according to our scales. Second, the STI and its closer-ratio six-speed manual call for two shifts to 60, while the regular WRX's five speed hits 60 mph in second gear. By the time the pair travel a quarter-mile, the '09 WRX loses some ground, though; both cross the line at 102 mph, with the base Rex edging out the STI by just 0.1 second, 13.5 to 13.6.

BE-Fresh
10-27-2008, 05:56 PM
Oooooh, I think SR just got burned

SilentRacer
10-27-2008, 06:03 PM
Only read the first two paragraphs. I still find that hard to believe. Unless subaru wants to make STIs worthless that is.

99SUS SFD
10-27-2008, 06:06 PM
I know, I couldn't believe it either. Those numbers aren't huge by any means, but still interesting.

peugoby
10-27-2008, 08:24 PM
How mad would you be if you purchased an '08 WRX! I want a white five door. They are admittedly growing on me.

deadlydave
10-27-2008, 08:36 PM
Nows the time to buy an 08wrx. there's a dyno video on youtube of one with an intake, TBE, and tune making around 250whp, with 340+ lb-ft of torque at the wheels. Plus, they're gonna be dirt cheap with the 09's on the lot.

Huffer
10-27-2008, 09:10 PM
it makes sense. You're talking 09 WRX vs. 08 STi.

Wait till you see the 09 STi then...

Bdubs
10-30-2008, 04:21 PM
Many dealers have already marked the 08's down considerably. I just recently saw a sedan w/ the NAV option for 22k. Not bad for brand new, less than a year old.

subba
10-30-2008, 04:33 PM
How mad would you be if you purchased an '08 WRX! I want a white five door. They are admittedly growing on me.

HB Still fail in my books but the hyundai look alike Sedan has a lil potential.

jg09
10-31-2008, 01:50 PM
Now that I've gotten used to the STi 5 door, the sedan just doesn't look right with the STi bumpers/side skirts/spoiler.

I'll admit, the new 5 door body style has grown on me and I actually (gasp!) like it!

scenicrearview
11-18-2008, 05:04 PM
Yeah the first time i saw it i vomited in disgust. i thought it had too much cheap mazda styling i.e. cheap plastic garbage. but then i saw a 5 door with a little improvement and i fell in love. but i still prefer my 93' turbo wagon :P

I cant wait to see what they do to the STI. come on you know subaru won't let us all down.

anothernord
11-18-2008, 08:30 PM
We eventually fall in love with it... you just wait

Huffer
11-19-2008, 09:27 AM
^^ not I. I've seen enough of the hatches around to know that unless they're STi's, they're not worth the time.
The Mazda 3 (not even the Mazdaspeed version) looks more sculpted and performance orientated.

Grafton
11-19-2008, 12:56 PM
i just cant all inlove with the looks of the hatch back sti i like the look of the wrx a whole lot better.

henryq89
11-19-2008, 02:15 PM
*drool*

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... dan_NY.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/2008_Subaru_WRX_sedan_NY.jpg)
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scenicrearview
11-20-2008, 01:33 AM
i think most subarus have to grow on you. thats kinda how it is. the keep finding new and interesting ways to shock us. remember the svx same deal. if you don't like it now wait a couple years. i promise it will have a redesign. i mean hell the wrx has only been in the american market for what 6 years and its 4 major design changes.

subba
11-20-2008, 11:24 AM
its been almost a year and the new HB shape still have not grown on me, the bugeye didnt take this long.

If you think about what makes a STi a Sti, stock for stock the WRX might be Faster in a streight line but i think if you put both on a track, its a completely different situation :smt023

in terms of styling, i will stick to my GC8 and GDA chassis

Wiscon_Mark
11-20-2008, 11:38 AM
I wonder if this means they strengthened the 5 speed substantially. That's the information I'd be the most interested in.

jg09
11-20-2008, 01:52 PM
its been almost a year and the new HB shape still have not grown on me, the bugeye didnt take this long.

If you think about what makes a STi a Sti, stock for stock the WRX might be Faster in a streight line but i think if you put both on a track, its a completely different situation :smt023

in terms of styling, i will stick to my GC8 and GDA chassis

Surprisingly, it took longer for the '06-'07 front end to grow on me then it did bug eyes, but again, I think it's just time. I'd love to see the next STi go "retro" and go back to many of the GC8 styling cues. Maybe even offer it as a 2 dr again, too.

scenicrearview
11-24-2008, 05:18 PM
its been almost a year and the new HB shape still have not grown on me, the bugeye didnt take this long.

If you think about what makes a STi a Sti, stock for stock the WRX might be Faster in a streight line but i think if you put both on a track, its a completely different situation :smt023

in terms of styling, i will stick to my GC8 and GDA chassis

Surprisingly, it took longer for the '06-'07 front end to grow on me then it did bug eyes, but again, I think it's just time. I'd love to see the next STi go "retro" and go back to many of the GC8 styling cues. Maybe even offer it as a 2 dr again, too.

I'd definitely be down for some 22b styling on the sti