ruh roh putting together a Rally Mochine

[Ruh Roh]

New to the forum and have not posted in anything but the newbies thread. Thought I would share some progress on putting together a Rally legacy.

This build is on a very low budget. I picked it up for $400 bucks. It had an automatic transmission that was stuck in first.

First day at home off the trailer.
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The car was amazingly clean for $400, as you can tell.

Few hours later after getting pics. I threw the winter wheels on from my WRX and test fit the Invidia exhaust from my WRX.
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Couple of months later after using friends cars to run in the rallies. I decided it was time to cut the season short and spend some time on the Legacy and my car ready for next season.

This is the way the car sits as of the moment.
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[sexystover]

did you fix the trans? any plans for power?

[Ruh Roh]

I have sort of fixed the transmission problem. I removed the Auto. I am looking for a 4.44 manual transmission. I have a 4.11 that is almost ready to go in.
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As far as power goes: I have lots of options laying around

2- 2.5 blocks
1- 2L engine, needs torn down to see what is salvageable from my WRX
2- sets of sohc heads

and the 2.2 that came in the Legacy

More than likely I will build one of the 2.5 blocks while I run the 2.2 until it dies.

[Reason]

Looks like you need some SLi decals on that thing!

[Ruh Roh]

Looks like you need some SLi decals on that thing!

Good Call!! I will work on that

[Ruh Roh]

very little progress, but something and a little bit of my carbon fiber skills.

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[sexystover]

wana send a 2.5 block my way? haha nice work so far and def put some SLI decals on that baby

[Huffer]

Gary, you know you want my hood. ;)

Spoiler is disappearing next Saturday to a guy from WV. Another one!

[Ruh Roh]

Gary, you know you want my hood. ;)

Spoiler is disappearing next Saturday to a guy from WV. Another one!

You're right!! I really do want your hood so I can get started on the carbon fiber one. Even Better I found some kevlar I had laying around :grin:

I just need to figure out a way to get your hood back here.
I think it will just barely fit in the 240, but I don't want to get up thre and not be able to get it all the way in.

[Ruh Roh]

wana send a 2.5 block my way? haha nice work so far and def put some SLI decals on that baby

Got a spare manual transmission laying around? I need to build up my supply on those

[Sindri_icelander]

Rally is just for real men. Subarus were/are made for rally! Why don´t you all make a rallycar out of your Subarus? I am... :smile:

[Ruh Roh]

Rally is just for real men. Subarus were/are made for rally! Why don´t you all make a rallycar out of your Subarus? I am... :smile:

HAHA! I agree. :grin: hope your build goes a little quicker then mine. Got any pics?

[henryq89]

:shock: :shock: so far so good looks pretty awesoem with all the stuff doen to it lol...got any vid of it driving??

[Ruh Roh]

Finally got a little bit of work done to the car. No pics right now.

Had to have the subaru dealership get my front diff out.
Made some indestructible mud-flaps and I stand by the word indestructable!
Wired up the IGN and FUEL switches.
Found my WRX fuel pump and '06 WRX injectors.
Think I have everything I need on order to delete the ABS & Brake Booster

Got all my blocks and heads gathered up and ready to go to the machine shop.

That is all I can think of for now. I am going to have a lot of parts off the car for sale soon!

[Sindri_icelander]

[quote="Sindri_icelander":2752pu9c]Rally is just for real men. Subarus were/are made for rally! Why don´t you all make a rallycar out of your Subarus? I am... :smile:

HAHA! I agree. :grin: hope your build goes a little quicker then mine. Got any pics?[/quote:2752pu9c]

Nope, sorry. Trust me, it´s not going as quick as I would prefer.

[Ruh Roh]

:shock: :shock: so far so good looks pretty awesoem with all the stuff doen to it lol...got any vid of it driving??

Nope, no vids. I have drove the car onto a trailer to bring it home and drove it off. It has not started since, got right to work on it.

I do have vids and pics of me at rallyx's this year in my friends WRX.

[Ruh Roh]

updated pics!

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some new stickers and more advertisements to be put on the car
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No worries of shredding valve stems once I get these installed
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[JLav211]

Nice.

Is this getting a roll cage, go-fast parts, etc.?

Jeff

[T_F_E]

Wow I love what you have done with the car looks awesome

[Plays_with_Toys]

another power option is to use the 2.2 liter heads with the 2.5 liter block. High compression frankenmotor.

[Ruh Roh]

The roll cage is planned for next year sometime. Just doing local Rally-X with it till I get use to it.

The car will have some go fast parts:
4.444 manual transmission and rear diff- should be installed by next weekend
Using the factory 2.2 till it pops
2-2.5 NA blocks are being built for the car
heads laying around to use(all Pairs)= single cam, dual exhaust port; single cam, single exhaust port, and a set of WRX heads

The motors will be around 11:1 compression ratio while running E85 and eventually throwing a turbo at it!

I am very familiar with building subaru Frankenmotors. My WRX motor used an Sti crankshaft, Sti rods, 2.2L stock bore Wiseco pistons(had to machine the tops to clear the heads), Custom head gaskets from Cometic(5 layers), Stock 2.0L heads, stock WRX turbo on 7psi. This motor ended up at 10.2:1 on the compression. Miscalculations on my part, was shooting for 10.5:1. Close enough!

[Plays_with_Toys]

Where are you located? There's a few e85 franken subies here in colorado.

[Ruh Roh]

I am located in ohio. I might need to get in touch with those guys. This E85 thing is new to me and I am kind of worried about being bale to supply enough fuel to the motor. I could care less about MPG. I just want the best bang for the buck.

[WinterKnoll]

Those wheels actually look really great in white.

[Ruh Roh]

^^^^I agree! I like the white wheels a lot better than the Black WRX wheels I had on there.

Thanks for all the compliments. I can not wait to get it running and post up some event pics.

[hellaGT]

Those wheels actually look really great in white.
I was just about to say that :smt023

[strat81]

love the legacy! saw the thread over on dirtyimpreza.

i was looking around and according to a calc. I found online 10.5:1 on a 2.5 is as easy as switching out the headgaskets for ej257 gaskets. i'm considering trying this out on my wagon build (also going for rallyx with the car)

[Ruh Roh]

I will have to look into that. If it is that simple then I should have 2 extra 2.5's to use after I but some oversized ACL bearings in.

Good to see another DI member on here, Strat81.

[strat81]

here's a link the the calculator i found...
http://www.jonesboy.com/Media/Matts_CR_calc_v1_01.xls

it allows you to play with different head, piston, block, and headgasket setups... need to do a bit more research to make sure the ej257 gaskets will work on the 2.5 block and heads (coolant passage alignment, etc)

btw, i'm jealous of the 4.11 tranny. i'd love to get a shorter ratio setup in the wagon.

[Ruh Roh]

I am pretty sure the gaskets will work. I know some of the guys at the local Subaru Dealer and they all lined up. The only difference I noticed was passage ways for the coolant depending on closed, open, or semi-closed decks.

you are going to be even more jealous, cos the trans is a 4.444. If I am remembering correctly you can find that set-up in the 99-00 USDM foresters or switch out front diffs from an auto.

Just used the calc., A....mazing find. came out to an 11.32 with the set-up I want! :grin: :grin:

[fwa2500]

man, next time im up your way i want to see this thing :grin:

also, i am still planning on switching to my WRX wheels leaving the 14s open for you if you still want them......it might be a little while though :( ill keep you posted on DS with my wheel situation

[Ruh Roh]

sounds good, send me those wheels so I get some Hakka tires mounted :lol:

You are more than welcome to stop by when you are in the area

[Ruh Roh]

Finally, some updates:

05 WRX seats
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Flocked Dash
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Carbon Fiber ECU Cover
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[2.5GT]

Looking good, it's coming along :smt023

and any more info/pics on this flock dash?

[bluebaru]

sweet car man so what are your plans for the suspension? are you going to get coil overs or what?

[Ruh Roh]

sweet car man so what are your plans for the suspension? are you going to get coil overs or what?

Eventually I will get some coilovers. Just running WRX struts with Sti springs and the Scooby921 spacers. I recently sold my '05 seats in order to get one FIA seat.

I have a 2.5l on the engine stand and ready to go in @ 11.32:1.

[bluebaru]

i have a pic request for you can you post some pics of how your light bar mounts to your bumper, on the inside if that makes sense.
i have looked at mine and it is just the plastic bumper beam. so i was just wondering.

[Huffer]

Bump because I want to. :D

[Ruh Roh]

Been a Long time since I have been on here :smt006

A little busy and unable to keep with forums, I do have something that everyone would be interested in though.

Exhaust anyone?
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[Ruh Roh]

So what have I been up to that has kept me so busy? I have been working on real rally cars and traveling all over the country. I am transporting and prepping cars in between rallys. I am nice and slow right now since the next event isnt until mid July.
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[TGX4776]

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i love that wagon.... :D

btw how did you get that high of compressing out of your 2.5 and have you put it on the dyno it yet?

[redlegacygt]

thats so cool. I prob. walked right by you at STPR and didnt even know it.. haha Congrats to hanson for winning SP. Heard the invite to X games is prob. there, but the funding is the big determining factor? Any word if he's going?

[Ruh Roh]

the light bar is mounted with a threaded piece of rod that goes all the way through the bumper with washers and nut on both ends. I never take the red center piece off, I just push it to the side when I am not running the light bar. The light bar and red piece connect with clevis pin. the outer edges of the light bar are held in where the a/c condensor use to sit by using a nut and bolt through the holes. It probably takes about 2-3minutes at most to put the light bar on or remove it.

redlegacygtThanks, it has been a good year! X-Games is always a last minute call. I think I got 3 days notice that year that I needed to get on a plane and get to LA, lol.

TGX4776The compression was pretty easy to obtain just by using a 2.5 block with 2.2 single port SOHC heads. I did a few other things like put in a STi crank, ACL race bearings, 2.5 n/a rods, 2.5 n/a pistons, cometic hg's, and a stock SOHC single port head. I also am using 05 sti injectors, my own parallel fuel rail set-up, ported and polished intake manifold from a 1.8(I think, it doesnt have the EGR port), walbro fuel pump, 98 DOHC RS ecu(higher rev limiter), and a safc.
I really want to get the car dynoed, but the closest one is about 2 hours away and I really just dont have the time to take it up there. A lot of people that have ridden in it compare it to a stock WRX with instant throttle response.

[TGX4776]

the light bar is mounted with a threaded piece of rod that goes all the way through the bumper with washers and nut on both ends. I never take the red center piece off, I just push it to the side when I am not running the light bar. The light bar and red piece connect with clevis pin. the outer edges of the light bar are held in where the a/c condensor use to sit by using a nut and bolt through the holes. It probably takes about 2-3minutes at most to put the light bar on or remove it.

redlegacygtThanks, it has been a good year! X-Games is always a last minute call. I think I got 3 days notice that year that I needed to get on a plane and get to LA, lol.

TGX4776The compression was pretty easy to obtain just by using a 2.5 block with 2.2 single port SOHC heads. I did a few other things like put in a STi crank, ACL race bearings, 2.5 n/a rods, 2.5 n/a pistons, cometic hg's, and a stock SOHC single port head. I also am using 05 sti injectors, my own parallel fuel rail set-up, ported and polished intake manifold from a 1.8(I think, it doesnt have the EGR port), walbro fuel pump, 98 DOHC RS ecu(higher rev limiter), and a safc.
I really want to get the car dynoed, but the closest one is about 2 hours away and I really just dont have the time to take it up there. A lot of people that have ridden in it compare it to a stock WRX with instant throttle response.


Ahh i thought you had achieved it on just the 2.5

[Danny-G]

What do you think the motor would be like with dual port heads and a stock 2.2 intake manifold? I think I might copy the build for myself but with a few differences. It sounds like its plenty powerful.

[Ruh Roh]

What do you think the motor would be like with dual port heads and a stock 2.2 intake manifold? I think I might copy the build for myself but with a few differences. It sounds like its plenty powerful.

I know it doesnt have the same compression. I believe the dual ports lower it to around 10:1. I think that is much safer for a daily. I cant remember what year/model the dual ports need to be to run a 2.2 manifold.

Right now I am running on E85 which helps keep the cost down some.