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96LegacyLAWD
11-29-2008, 11:07 PM
Hi I'm new to the legacy and to Subaru's in general. I was wondering what is available and where to look for performance stuff for my 96 Leggy L EJ22 with Mass Air Flow? :smt006

Reason
11-30-2008, 04:38 PM
Welcome to the forum. Being a new guy you have to realize that most of your questions have been asked and answered many times. Feel free to browse the NA section and you will find lots of answers to your future questions.

So you want to go fast huh? Start of with this viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11403 (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11403)

96LegacyLAWD
11-30-2008, 09:26 PM
I read that particular article when I joined but like the headers-No luck, Intake-No Luck. I did find a short throw on E-bay. Havent thought about cams yet as I wouldnt know how to do it on my Leggy nor know who to take it to. Everything I seem to find is for the 2.5. Are the 2.2's a lost cause? :smt026

11-30-2008, 09:27 PM
where are you from?

96LegacyLAWD
11-30-2008, 09:49 PM
Originally from Saginaw, Michigan but I'm in the Army so I'm stationed on Ft. Drum, NY

11-30-2008, 10:05 PM
ohh.. maybe someone near you can help... i live in washington so uh... i guess im out of the question

1996Battlewagon
11-30-2008, 10:12 PM
The ej22 isn't necessarily a lost cause. It just isn't that well backed by the aftermarket. Basic things like a complete exhaust (headers and all) intakes and pulleys are available through the aftermarket, but if you really want to make an NA ej22 'fast', you're probably going to have to go custom; and even at that, you'll spend a lot of money and might not come out with great results (you'd have a car that would sound like a demon from the deepest depths of hell though :twisted: ) These are great engines, they just are not Subaru's choice for performance (that is unanamously the turbo engines). Don't be discouraged though, I'm just negative. Good luck man!!!

96LegacyLAWD
11-30-2008, 11:01 PM
Well I'm not looking to build a super car killer though(have a built 82 Z-28 for that) I just want to make it a bit more punchy. I've looked for headers and none of the names in the "So you wanna go fast" thread make em for the EJ22 anymore. Intake I'll make custom, and cams are non exhistant. The clutch I've already discovered is a weak point but I dont know which clutch I need. 24 spline/26 spline? None of the companies listed in that thread make anything for our 2.2 cars.

Reason
11-30-2008, 11:38 PM
Well I'm not looking to build a super car killer though(have a built 82 Z-28 for that) I just want to make it a bit more punchy. I've looked for headers and none of the names in the "So you wanna go fast" thread make em for the EJ22 anymore. Intake I'll make custom, and cams are non exhistant. The clutch I've already discovered is a weak point but I dont know which clutch I need. 24 spline/26 spline? None of the companies listed in that thread make anything for our 2.2 cars.

PM sent, I'll answer your call :smt023

96LegacyLAWD
12-01-2008, 12:29 AM
PM sent, next up anybody got a spare 96 22 header(s) whatever they are layin around

Okin DaVanh
12-01-2008, 08:18 AM
http://www.sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=12019



Here's a set on here. Impreza's can also be used. So you might want to look around.

Abbreviations: EL= Equal Length, UEL= Un-Equal.

96LegacyLAWD
12-01-2008, 08:57 AM
Cool thank you. I know some of the abbrev's especially headers went through 4 sets bforeI found some I liked for the Z

Huffer
12-01-2008, 10:30 AM
cams are non exhistant.

PM Qman - works for Delta Cams. They do custom grinds for all makes and models. Plenty of Impreza guys are running them.

Qman
12-01-2008, 11:23 AM
cams are non exhistant.

PM Qman - works for Delta Cams. They do custom grinds for all makes and models. Plenty of Impreza guys are running them.

Thanks for the plug Huffer!!

But he's right. Call the shop M-F, 8-5 pacific time we can hook you up for all your rigs. :smt023

And definitely not any harder than putting a cam in your Camaro!

Huffer
12-01-2008, 11:41 AM
Just sharing the love Ken. The more cars that get cammed, the more business you make, the more support you offer. Win-win. :smt006

96LegacyLAWD
12-01-2008, 12:13 PM
Sweet

99gtlimited
12-01-2008, 01:33 PM
open it up, more air in and out. then maybe cams and EM

Qman
12-01-2008, 02:03 PM
open it up, more air in and out. then maybe cams and EM

To utilize more air in and more air out you need cams, intake and at least a cat-back exhaust. I can definitely hook you up with part of it.

intakes,
http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZM ... &_osacat=0 (http://shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_dmptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories?_nkw=subaru+legacy+intake&_sacat=0&_fromfsb=&_trksid=m270.l1313&_odkw=subaru+legacy&_osacat=0)

There isn't much available for the earlier exhaust systems. You can however, have a custom set up made at your local exhaust shop.

And of course we have your cams!

96LegacyLAWD
12-01-2008, 06:08 PM
Sweet. I do have a few questions though. Ok I've read and understood the whole Seafoam thing. But wouldnt converting over to a full synthectic oil hurt my Scoobie she has 181,000 on her clock and from I recall it could wash the bearings and cause a catastrophic failure. Also what about turbos? Any kits available?

Qman
12-01-2008, 07:36 PM
Sweet. I do have a few questions though. Ok I've read and understood the whole Seafoam thing. But wouldnt converting over to a full synthectic oil hurt my Scoobie she has 181,000 on her clock and from I recall it could wash the bearings and cause a catastrophic failure. Also what about turbos? Any kits available?

Seafoam is a cleaner that can be used in both the oil and the fuel.

There are a couple guys who have built set ups with turbos. Not real reliable though. The EJ22T is one of the best motors Subaru ever built. Occasionally you can find one wrecked.

For good turbo reliability swapping is the only answer. A stock WRX set up makes decent power and makes it reasonably reliable.

Reason
12-01-2008, 08:27 PM
Sweet. I do have a few questions though. Ok I've read and understood the whole Seafoam thing. But wouldnt converting over to a full synthectic oil hurt my Scoobie she has 181,000 on her clock and from I recall it could wash the bearings and cause a catastrophic failure. Also what about turbos? Any kits available?

I have a 98 L 2.2 with 250k and I run full synthetic Royal Purple 5w30 winter and 10w30 summer. I'll have prices for you on the stuff you asked about shortly.

96LegacyLAWD
12-01-2008, 10:10 PM
Cool, I modified my stock intake tube tonight and added an open element cone with a custom flange, big improvement from about 3-6K. I had an issue prior too that though it got a little better in some ways and worse in other. When I first brought the car home my check engine light popped on and it wouldnt want to idle. Now with my CAI on it it will idle sometimes but still dies every now and then idea's? And which NGK Plugs should I get?

Reason
12-01-2008, 10:32 PM
Copper NGK's, on the 2.2 it's easy to change them. You might want to upgrade your grounding points. These cars seem to respond to it since the stock grounding is horrible. You can make your own kit pretty cheap if you piece it together. You could also but a kit from http://www.camotoy.com/products/subaru/index.php

StatGSR
12-01-2008, 10:40 PM
about the headers, make sure you have dual port heads before you go buying something. personally, if i was going to stay ej22, i would just do a DIY turbo set up with a rising rate FPR and have at it.

96LegacyLAWD
12-01-2008, 10:43 PM
And my idle problem? Dirty MAF?

Huffer
12-02-2008, 10:04 AM
It's likely a cracked hose.

Reason
12-02-2008, 12:28 PM
It's likely a cracked hose.


or not......

Have you done a tune up yet? That's the first thing I do when I get a "new" car. Fuel filter, spark plugs, pcv valve, spark plug wires, oil, oil filter at the least.

96LegacyLAWD
12-02-2008, 04:13 PM
Doing so this weekend and also looking into a full grounding kit with gold connectors

Reason
12-02-2008, 09:28 PM
Doing so this weekend and also looking into a full grounding kit with gold connectors

Good, hopefully that will take care of your problem. You said your read the seafoam thread, do you use it yet?

96LegacyLAWD
12-02-2008, 09:44 PM
No never have this will be my first time. I put in a new fuel filter with a moderate improvement, there werent any copper NGK plugs listed so I got the standard $1.99 plugs, cant hurt. I have also decided to Sea Foam it and give it a couple regular oil changes with cheap oil at close intervals to get the gunk out, after a couple of those I should have enough money for the royal purple. Also my car has the single port heads :( no header for me.

StatGSR
12-02-2008, 09:54 PM
not guna lie, i dont think i would bother spending the money on royal purple for an NA ej22....

Reason
12-02-2008, 09:57 PM
The standard plugs are copper plugs. As for the header, like in my pm you can keep your eye out for a cheap used set of 2.2 dual port heads. If you do the work yourself then it would be worth it to get a header. Some people may say it's not worth it and you should swap a turbo motor in blah blah blah, but not all of us are trying to build a race car. You said you just want a little something so that may be the way to go.

Reason
12-02-2008, 09:58 PM
What's another $10 or so for oil? it's not like it will break the bank.

96LegacyLAWD
12-03-2008, 08:20 AM
Indeed but I see you guys have parasites in your forum too who think their stuff is gold and everyone elses crap :smt018

96LegacyLAWD
12-03-2008, 08:23 AM
BTW QMan what do you guys get for a set of cams for a N/A Single port EJ22? Say a stage 2ish?

96LegacyLAWD
12-03-2008, 08:25 AM
The standard plugs are copper plugs.
Good I got the right ones

Reason
12-03-2008, 02:52 PM
Indeed but I see you guys have parasites in your forum too who think their stuff is gold and everyone elses crap :smt018

What do you mean?

Huffer
12-03-2008, 03:06 PM
I think he's talking about the oil discussion. No biggie, but calling someone a parasite is a bit rough...

Reason
12-03-2008, 03:20 PM
I think he's talking about the oil discussion. No biggie, but calling someone a parasite is a bit rough...


Rough, thats funny Roger :lol: