intake mod ideas what do you guys think?

[ScaryFatKidGT]

I think this first idea has been talked about before but...
While I was looking at intakes on ebay I was thinking about taking a SRI and just using it to remove the pipe with the resenator and airbox, basicaly replace everything in between the MAF and the TB

but then I was thinking that mod probably wouldn't do much for performance because most of the restriction is at the stock air filter right? So could you take the front part of a CAI and have it go from the MAF into the fender with out using the back part of the CAI? Then I could have a CAI and keep the factory airbox, would this have any advantage over a Snorkusectomy? what do you guys think?

P.S.
I would find the CAI used I'm not guna buy a whole CAI to only use the front or back of it

[decke48]

basicly you want to do the hybrid intake. SRI after the MAF but keep the stock air box.. it rumored to give the same preformance as a SRI with cone filter but not cause idle problems with the MAF volts.

[ScaryFatKidGT]

basicly you want to do the hybrid intake. SRI after the MAF but keep the stock air box.. it rumored to give the same preformance as a SRI with cone filter but not cause idle problems with the MAF volts.

I was thinking about it because with a Snorkusectomy you basicaly make a SRI into CAI.

but isn't the stock filter pretty restrictive?

[Reason]

basicly you want to do the hybrid intake. SRI after the MAF but keep the stock air box.. it rumored to give the same preformance as a SRI with cone filter but not cause idle problems with the MAF volts.

I was thinking about it because with a Snorkusectomy you basicaly make a SRI into CAI.



Umm no....

[Reason]

I think this first idea has been talked about before but...
While I was looking at intakes on ebay I was thinking about taking a SRI and just using it to remove the pipe with the resenator and airbox, basicaly replace everything in between the MAF and the TB

but then I was thinking that mod probably wouldn't do much for performance because most of the restriction is at the stock air filter right? So could you take the front part of a CAI and have it go from the MAF into the fender with out using the back part of the CAI? Then I could have a CAI and keep the factory airbox, would this have any advantage over a Snorkusectomy? what do you guys think?

P.S.
I would find the CAI used I'm not guna buy a whole CAI to only use the front or back of it


Have you seen the tube that goes from the MAR to the TB? Seems like it would set off a lot of turbulence, more than a smooth aluminum tube. The OEM filter isn't going to be much more restrictive than any other filter made of the same material.

[LunchBox04V]

Hey GT, I think I got something like what you are thinking about doing. Though I have that Gen 2 EJ22 so I am MAP, not MAF. I am currently running what is pictured below with no problems.....It makes one hell of a loud intakes sounds though. :cool:
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/325/4961/25812480002_large.jpg
Here are a few things I have noticed, and or tried.....
1.) In my '93 Legacy I simply drilled out the bottom of the stock air box, and used the stock filter. Worked great, and was always dry. Still pulled air through the stock hole in the intake box, as well as from the major missing part. Sounded great, worked great. In 2 years of owning the car with that intake setup, only had 2 strange idle things happen. Both times on initial start it wen to about 2200 RPM and then down to normal. That is all. Oh, the car was MAF, like you got.
2.) Rule of thumb.....If there are two pipes, both the same diameter, and one is corrigated. The corrigated pipe will flow like a pipe half the diameter of the actual pipe. So.... a little math. :lol:

3" smooth pipe = 3" smooth pipe flow

3' Corrigated pipe = 1.5" smooth pipe flow

That being said, I had a friend (Saturn guy, I should have known......lol) who used dryer hose, you know the white corrigated stuff..... lol, to make a poor mans CAI. Worked like carp because it was corrigated, and thus too small to do anything helpful.

In my opinion, again, I don't know how much snorkus you got, but I would cut the bottom of the airbox out, and put in a new filter. Once it warms up again, I am going to try and remove the corrigated section of my intake. Atleast that is the plan.

[Reason]

The downfall with drilling holes at the bottom of the air box is now it will be sucking in warm air from the engine bay. Which would defeat the purpose of of doing a snorkus delete. Unless you are just going for "cool" sound.

[LunchBox04V]

Yeah, that is the one down fall. I did notice that performance may have dropped a little in the summer, but the throttle responce stayed good. I thought about trying to make a heatshield of some sort.... And I am not that much of a ricer that my car has to simply SOUND louder! lol :roll: :lol: haha

[ScaryFatKidGT]

basicly you want to do the hybrid intake. SRI after the MAF but keep the stock air box.. it rumored to give the same preformance as a SRI with cone filter but not cause idle problems with the MAF volts.

I was thinking about it because with a Snorkusectomy you basicaly make a SRI into CAI.



Umm no....

with a SRI you are sucking in hot air but if you conect a SRI to the stock air box and do a Snorkusectomy you get the cold air from the fender and the SRI smooth pipe

[Reason]

I was thinking about it because with a Snorkusectomy you basicaly make a SRI into CAI.



Umm no....

with a SRI you are sucking in hot air but if you conect a SRI to the stock air box and do a Snorkusectomy you get the cold air from the fender and the SRI smooth pipe

The benefit from a SRI isn't the smooth pipe transition, it's the shortness of the intake path to get the air quickly into the engine. If you do what you say you are making a home made CAI.

[ScaryFatKidGT]

I was thinking about it because with a Snorkusectomy you basicaly make a SRI into CAI.


Umm no....


with a SRI you are sucking in hot air but if you conect a SRI to the stock air box and do a Snorkusectomy you get the cold air from the fender and the SRI smooth pipe

The benefit from a SRI isn't the smooth pipe transition, it's the shortness of the intake path to get the air quickly into the engine.
but your ramming hot air...

If you do what you say you are making a home made CAI.
thats what I said and you said I was wrong lol


so the OEM pannel filter isn't as much of a problem to flow as the corrigated piping and OEM air box is correct?

[Reason]

exactly

[StatGSR]

you guys suck, my head hurts....

just go with a SRI, or do a snorkus delete. either one wont do much of anything, but a SRI will sound sic haha.

adding additional piping wont do you much or any good unless it goes outside to the front of the car, and has a velocity stack at the end.

but really, i wouldn't get to worked up about intake design on an NA Suby with no EM

[subba]

im sorry i tried both cone and stock box with snork delete.

snork delete pwns all.

N/A
The cone sounds cool but throttle response died (KandN)and the topend was the same, i used the stock box with a economy filer and the car ran much better and more efficient.

Turbo.
Had a HKS intake = 9psi
Stock box economy filter & snork delete = 11 psi

i wish i had aluminum tubing.

[ScaryFatKidGT]

you guys suck, my head hurts....

just go with a SRI, or do a snorkus delete. either one wont do much of anything, but a SRI will sound sic haha.

adding additional piping wont do you much or any good unless it goes outside to the front of the car, and has a velocity stack at the end.

but really, i wouldn't get to worked up about intake design on an NA Suby with no EM

I already did a snorkus delete so if I put a ebay intake from the TB to the MAF I will have smoother piping and esentally a CAI. Whitch I think I'm going to do

[rougeben83]

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[KAG]

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Ben, you spend way too much time on NASIOC. :razz:

[anothernord]

The whole problem of the voltage spikes the MAF gets with a cone filter is because of the lack of snorkus.

So if you're concerned about low end MAF issues, keep the snorkus and just replace everything from MAF to TB.

With that being said, the problems are all below ~1500 rpm at WOT; So if you floor it below ~1500 all the time, keep the snorkus.

[99gtlimited]

take a look at the DIY hybrid CAI thread i made in the DIY forum. I've been running a hybrid style intake for about a year now without any problems. Nice deep sound when you get on the throttle and no serious hesitation issues.