Dead battery

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Somehow between this morning and 2pm my battery bit the dust.. It's one of those crappy batteries and I think it ran out or low on water my question is can I at least bring it back to life with a charger with water in it? I can't buy a new battery at least until Friday. I really don't want to buy a walmart battery and dump it in 8 months before winter.

Also I think I'm going to get a walmart battery it's one of those with 800 cranking amps anything bad about them?

[2.5GT]

You can try to bring it back, but no clue on how long it will last before you need to jump it again.

Why not head down to Advance or Autozone? they test batteries for free and install batteries for free. There's a core exchange but their prices aren't that bad. I bought one from Advance...only cost me a little over $60? can't remember, but it's not more than $100 that's for sure.

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well as I said I picked up a ever start from walmart only because I was in the same area.. Trust me that's not my first pick I have to see how it handles my ham radio equiment when transmitting.

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shit I know how the battery died!!!

when I kicked in the ABS system this morning I did not know that the pump was still running with the car OFF!!!

Another member here had the same issue.. As I put the new battery in the ABS pump started up again.. I was unable to find the fuse for it inside the car and under the hood so I just pulled the connection near the pump to stop it from running.

WTF....

I will pay $5 via paypal if someone shows me where the connections are under the dash to get out of the ABS show codes mode.

[Benfolio]

Assuming your car is a BD...

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Take out ABS diagnosis connector from side of driver's seat heater unit.
Turn ignition switch OFF.
Connect ABS diagnosis connector terminal 6 only, to diagnosis terminal (B81 grounds). Either diagnostic terminal is a ground point.
Turn ignition switch ON.
ABS warning light is set in the diagnostic mode and blinks to identify trouble code.

After the start code (11) is shown, the trouble codes will be shown in order of the last information first. These repeat for a maximum of 5 minutes. NOTE: When there are no trouble codes in memory, only the start code (11) is shown.

To clear codes:

After calling up a trouble code, disconnect ABS diagnosis connector terminal 6 from diagnosis terminal.
Repeat 3 times within approximately 12 seconds; connecting and disconnecting terminal 6 and diagnosis terminal for at least 0.05 seconds each time.
NOTE: After diagnosis is completed, always clear memory. Make sure only start code (11) is shown after memory is cleared.

Paypal: Benfolio@gmail.com :grin:

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heh the car is a BK.. but I will check in a few.. also I think I got a stuck relay on the car which is how the battery got drained.. stuck relays were a issue on this model year it seems.. at least it's not something that would break the bank...

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Assuming your car is a BD...

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/03/mi2puo-1.jpg
Take out ABS diagnosis connector from side of driver's seat heater unit.
Turn ignition switch OFF.
Connect ABS diagnosis connector terminal 6 only, to diagnosis terminal (B81 grounds). Either diagnostic terminal is a ground point.
Turn ignition switch ON.
ABS warning light is set in the diagnostic mode and blinks to identify trouble code.

After the start code (11) is shown, the trouble codes will be shown in order of the last information first. These repeat for a maximum of 5 minutes. NOTE: When there are no trouble codes in memory, only the start code (11) is shown.

To clear codes:

After calling up a trouble code, disconnect ABS diagnosis connector terminal 6 from diagnosis terminal.
Repeat 3 times within approximately 12 seconds; connecting and disconnecting terminal 6 and diagnosis terminal for at least 0.05 seconds each time.
NOTE: After diagnosis is completed, always clear memory. Make sure only start code (11) is shown after memory is cleared.

Paypal: Benfolio@gmail.com :grin:

back again and it's daylight the only connection that I see that looks like the above plug it's like a orange color plug but nothing is plugged in it.. but since it has more then four ports it must not be it.. I might need to take the dash trim off again to check.

[Benfolio]

Alldata shows the same procedure/diagram for a BK, but I've found they're not always the most accurate thing.

[Bdubs]

This could be the reason your hill holder was disconnected.
If the cable binds up, it could affect the way the ABS works.

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Hmmm I did not know that

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Crap it happened again abs relay failed to switch off leaving me with a weak batt going to buy a jumpstart.

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This is odd the battery is 12.6 v but when starting goes down to 5 v but get this the voltage slowly comes back up to 12 v. Bad battery? I never seen one like that before.

[decke48]

yes probally a bad battery

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LOL guess that's why they nickname them never start. Optima battery is next like I should of went with in the first place.

[decke48]

doesnt you battery keep getting drained?. that could be why its a bad battery

[Huffer]

shit I know how the battery died!!!

when I kicked in the ABS system this morning I did not know that the pump was still running with the car OFF!!!

Another member here had the same issue.. As I put the new battery in the ABS pump started up again.. I was unable to find the fuse for it inside the car and under the hood so I just pulled the connection near the pump to stop it from running.


I'd get this problem fixed before you go spending money on a battery...

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doesnt you battery keep getting drained?. that could be why its a bad battery

No because I had this battery almost two months.. I would think a battery that would die before then before if it was not charging with the car running.

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shit I know how the battery died!!!

when I kicked in the ABS system this morning I did not know that the pump was still running with the car OFF!!!

Another member here had the same issue.. As I put the new battery in the ABS pump started up again.. I was unable to find the fuse for it inside the car and under the hood so I just pulled the connection near the pump to stop it from running.


I'd get this problem fixed before you go spending money on a battery...


just pull or take out the relay it wont hurt anything and it wont happen unless you get hard on the brakes to cause the ABS to kick on still can't make a crappy battery good.. :)

[decke48]

non-deep cycle battery dont work well if they get drained low a couple time and are recharged. they dont hold voltage well and dont do well to loads like a 100-150amp starter

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Yeah I never seen one that would go back to 12 v after a no crank try like I took out the interstate battery before the everstart and it sits in the closet with 9v no load. I think this everstart has little to nothing for cranking amps.

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So check this out....

I jump my car and get it started.. I check the alternator and at high idle the voltage reads 14.80V

OK...

So I get in the car and I turn on my high beams just to check something out and that's when something odd happened.. the car dipped in speed nearing 500 rpms for a split second then came back up to idle speed.. also since I had my door open the open door incator light also dimmed along with the drop in engine speed.... so I turn on my low beams and same happened as well... so after letting the car run for about 6 min I took it around the street with no ill effects...

Starter started up fine by the way, however the car would not start after i turned the car off so I'd need another jump...


who can explain this one?

[Huffer]

Grounding problem.

[decke48]

your battery is shot. alt might be charging 14volts but the battery is not storing the charge. so when you have a load its drops voltage. or ground problem

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I will pop the caps on the battery in the morning a person who had the same battery as me found that one of the cells had hardly any water in it at all... versus the other cells.

unlikey I would keep the battery in the car I will just use it in my battery box for my amateur radio gear for field day.

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Well I got rid of the walmart battery and I never could get the cap up without the plastic being stressed to bending..

they are sealed batteries.. anyways went to pick the interstate up 550 CCA connected it and it started up faster then the walmart did off the shelf...

Also the interstate batt that was in the car when it was sold to me they brought it in july of 2006.


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[T_F_E]

^ I love interstate batteries