Has anyone put an STI rear window spoiler on BD/BE Legacy?

[Drakien]

Has anyone put an STI rear window spoiler on BD Legacy? If so, pics please.
If not does it even fit? I was thinking about putting one on mine.

This is the one I am talking about.
http://istargazer.ca/blog/wm-pic13.jpg

[rougeben83]

only useful with the big wing.

[2.5GT]

Almost no one on here has done anything extraordinary with their Legacy. You're going to have to be the guinea pig.

[Soul Shinobi]

only useful with the big wing.

Not entirely true. It should help close the negative pressure wake behind the car making it more aerodynamic wing or not. With a wing it also increases pressure on the wing.

[rougeben83]

only useful with the big wing.

Not entirely true. It should help close the negative pressure wake behind the car making it more aerodynamic wing or not. With a wing it also increases pressure on the wing.


The main reason that spoiler is put on there is to divert more air into the big wing to maximize its effects. Whatever laminar flow it helps create from the air going over the roof is being diverted downward, not in the right direction if there's nothing there to take advantage of that diverted airflow. If you want something to smooth out the airflow as it leaves the roof you're better off with something that's angled more appropriately, like the roof spoiler on the 09 focus coupe.

Until someone can run this in a wind tunnel sans big wing and prove its usefulness by itself, and not how subaru had intended, I see it as on the same level as the guys wasting their money those EVO vortex generators on the back of their roofs.


Almost no one on here has done anything extraordinary with their Legacy. You're going to have to be the guinea pig.

Shouldnt you be putting more bandaid stickers on your dents? :smt016 :lol:

[Soul Shinobi]

I've read Mitsubishi's technical documentation on vortex generators, and their resulting increase of pressure on the rear window does in fact reduce drag (the presence of a wing is irrelevant to this) according to Computational Flow Dynamics analysis, I don't believed they actually put it in a wind tunnel (which is hardly necessary with modern CFD software). I am making one assumption, however, that the STI rear window spoiler does the same thing, that is increase laminar air flow over the rear window, which I don't see how it wouldn't unless it was entirely useless in its design (regardless of car).

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/corpor ... /2004.html (http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/corporate/about_us/technology/review/e/2004.html)

[decke48]

i think he talking more for look then function. like said youll be the guinea pig

[rougeben83]

I've read Mitsubishi's technical documentation on vortex generators, and their resulting increase of pressure on the rear window does in fact reduce drag (the presence of a wing is irrelevant to this) according to Computational Flow Dynamics analysis, I don't believed they actually put it in a wind tunnel (which is hardly necessary with modern CFD software). I am making one assumption, however, that the STI rear window spoiler does the same thing, that is increase laminar air flow over the rear window, which I don't see how it wouldn't unless it was entirely useless in its design (regardless of car).

http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/corpor ... /2004.html (http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/corporate/about_us/technology/review/e/2004.html)

That's an interesting article, thanks. However I would like to point out that according to the article mitsu had to calculate the right shape, spacing, height, angle of the delta shape, and even the right placement of the vortexes on back window of the Evo. How the final VG design came out is completely related to how air flows over the Evo's roof specifically. I doubt that all the ebay knockoffs take all those variables into account, nor do the guys that buy these things even calculate the proper placement of the vortexes on their roofs to actually create a downforce effect.

In other words, it's there to look cool. Just like the subaru guys (more WRX owners than anyone else) that put the 06 roof vane on their cars. I'm not telling the OP to not do it, just understand that it's not going to be doing anything actually useful.

[Drakien]

I don't mind being a guinea pig! It will make my car unique! I am not looking for functionality, just looks! Is there any places that do wind tunnels? I would consider it if the spoiler fits.

[Soul Shinobi]

I think it's presumptions to think that either the STI roof spoiler or aftermarket VGs would be useless, though it's certainly possible. You're right about the development being partially car specific, however some aspects can apply universally. I've read on AutoSpeed about generic vortex generators being used and successfully reducing drag (Blowing the Vortex series (http://autospeed.com/cms/search/index.html?keywords=blowing+the+vortex&x=0&y=0); the writing's a little amature but the content is good). Long story short, all I'm trying to say is keep an open mind about it.

Getting time in a full sized wind tunnel would likely cost several thousands of dollars, unfortunately. You'd be much better off making friends with an engineer and have him make a couple CFD models (perhaps for the cost of buying him lunch for a year). There are a few ways you can measure the drag coefficient of your car on the road (one of which is covered in AutoSpeed's Real World Measurement of Drag and Lift (http://autospeed.com/cms/A_109741/article.html) article). They're not bulletproof, but it's a start for anyone on a budget.

[Drakien]

Sweet! Thanks for the links! :grin:

[Merc1980]

I think it's presumptions to think that either the STI roof spoiler or aftermarket VGs would be useless, though it's certainly possible. You're right about the development being partially car specific, however some aspects can apply universally. I've read on AutoSpeed about generic vortex generators being used and successfully reducing drag (Blowing the Vortex series (http://autospeed.com/cms/search/index.html?keywords=blowing+the+vortex&x=0&y=0); the writing's a little amature but the content is good). Long story short, all I'm trying to say is keep an open mind about it.

Getting time in a full sized wind tunnel would likely cost several thousands of dollars, unfortunately. You'd be much better off making friends with an engineer and have him make a couple CFD models (perhaps for the cost of buying him lunch for a year). There are a few ways you can measure the drag coefficient of your car on the road (one of which is covered in AutoSpeed's Real World Measurement of Drag and Lift (http://autospeed.com/cms/A_109741/article.html) article). They're not bulletproof, but it's a start for anyone on a budget.
I doubt the Subaru spoiler acts like any VG. I'm sure this is just a simple fix that the Subaru engineers used to keep a competitive edge with Mitsubishi. Unlike a VG, this design would most likely result in a higher drag ratio because it is not using vortex's to create a smoother laminar. It is just diverting air with an inverted spoiler to the rear spoiler for better flow to the rear spoiler. This is probably a small drag increase for more rear downforce. Mitsubishi's design is not a new concept as it's been used on aircrafts for years, it just so happens it works well with their design. I've also seen real world examples where VG's actually improved a design, but the Subaru rear window spoiler is not a VG nor would it ever act like one. If you put an inverted spoiler like that on any car it would just create drag and lift. Even if it did increase flow attachment to the rear, there would be better ways of doing so.

[Soul Shinobi]

Your case is sound.

[aznguy0087]

damit! beat me to the punch!!! i want one of these on my BE, yeah was more just more for looks then fuction, they got full carbon fiber on ebay, the ones with the center carbon. i think i mite try this too

[Drakien]

Lol Its only beating you to it if I get it on before you. :cool: Which I have not done yet. So you still have the chance! I would do the Carbon fiber ones too. :D

[aznguy0087]

Lol Its only beating you to it if I get it on before you. :cool: Which I have not done yet. So you still have the chance! I would do the Carbon fiber ones too. :D

lol, good point but u were the frist person to post about it! dam i need to know how long is this thing! i think i mite just get it and do it!

[tizzle]

Matt Iorio did this to his impreza, custom job just the same. It had to be shortened as I remember.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/06/133789008_2140bbad75_o-1.jpg

and um, fun car to ride in BTW :cool:

[MoclovFlop]

I had the opportunity to test one out on my car (BE),

Good news: it fits without trimming and matched our c-pillar line.

Bad news: It looks a bit odd with our top window line.

Our roof with a spoiler looks like this ---> ( ) while the impreza window line with spoiler looks like ---> ) )

So it can look odd if you look at if from the side right near the window.

But from far back and any other angle it looks good.

I'm actually thinking of picking up an OEM one locally, but need to look at it again to see if it's worth buying one and drilling holes....

OEM is better because you can drill holes from the outside thanks to the removable end cap, the eBay ones will take a little more work because you'd have to make a template or use one of the gaskets to figure out where to drill.


EDIT: I was thinking, black vinyl could be applied to the corners of the roof OR body colored vinyl on the window, to "fake" the right curve...

[Drakien]

Yeah I think the BD's are a bit more rounded on the back, but if I could do it without trimming the spoiler I would be all up for doing it :smt005

[badbasser98]

I think i've seen on another forum where a guy was tying to get one on a Legacy. If I remember correctly, he was going to have to custom fab a new center secion as it was not long enough and the bend was too tight.

[MoclovFlop]

Perhaps for the BD, but on the BE it was the right length.

[WESTcoast]

yeah i have always wanted one for my BD, then if it does fit with lil to no problems i will go wingless on my trunk hehehe my friend went wingless on his trunk and kept that rear window spoiler and its sexy as hell

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/3649714542_e9a9028a79_o-1.jpg

[Drakien]

Who is going to be the test dummy? :lol:

[WESTcoast]

1.2.3...NOT IT :grin: :grin:

[2.5GT]

I don't mind being a guinea pig! It will make my car unique! I am not looking for functionality, just looks! Is there any places that do wind tunnels? I would consider it if the spoiler fits.

This guy should be the guinea pig :lol:

And keep in mind, you might have to drill holes into the body pillar and securely mount them on. Make sure you siliconed the hell out of those holes in order to prevent rust and/or water leaks.

Mounting them using glue/epoxy isn't going to hold at certain wind speeds. Just to let you know ahead of time.

[Drakien]

Lol yeah I will be the test dummy. It might be a few months.

[MoclovFlop]

Little photoshop of what it would look like on my car...

little bit down the window...

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/Untitled1-1.jpg

more towards the roof...

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/up-1.jpg

What do you all think, I've got a lead on an OEM one locally for cheap...

[Soul Shinobi]

I think that if that's a little photoshop then I really suck at photoshop. I think it looks better toward the roof.

[MoclovFlop]

Haha, just need to find the right images and cut, paste and adjust...

[Drakien]

That looks Bad @$$!!! I agree though it looks better towards the roof. :D

[aurelius]

That looks the goods! I need to see what it looks like on a BD now...

[aznguy0087]

dam i really wanna do this! no funds!!!

[MoclovFlop]

I have and OEM one now....

Pics up tonight. Not installed, but got it for wicked cheap.

Now comes the internal battle of drilling holes in the C-pillars... :smt021

[MoclovFlop]

And pictures (end caps are not on because this is just to show how it fits...)

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1268-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1269-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1270-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1271-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1272-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1273-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1275-1.jpg


Notice: This may not be the ideal placement of it, the mounts were not flush in all of the pics because I kept moving it around. There are locations where the mounts are flush, so don't worry if this doesn't look right.

You can also see what I was talking about earlier with the shape of the window line vs. the shape of the spoiler. However, It matched the roof curve and the window curve so it still looks fine.

Questions?

[aznguy0087]

Im SOLD! im goin to be doin this!!! i can get the wing and install kit for about $130, with my dicount from work. is that cheap?

[aurelius]

HOT.

[Soul Shinobi]

Looks like he added some pics, looks great! Hey man it would only take you a couple hours to paint the inside of that garage (and you don't even have a lot of stuff). :razz:

[MoclovFlop]

Haha, yea I've been thinking about it, but it's my moms house and I'm moving out in a few weeks anyways, but maybe for mothers day next year I'll do it. :razz:

Oh and thanks for the comments guys, I'll need A LOT of motivation to actually drill into the pillars and that's helping

[geckoboy86]

wow...that looks awesome. Since it looks like an relatively easy install on the BE, i wonder how hard it would be on a BD. Can someone photoshop it on a BD?

If is looks like an easy-ish install i might pick one up...i love roof spoilers. Had (a non bolted on but foam taped) one my old EG8 Civic.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/100_0051JPG-1.jpg

[2.5GT]

Now by just looking at the pictures. It doesn't really curve with the body/window line. What if you switch it upside down? it'll looks more "flush" with the window there.

And moving it higher wouldn't hurt it either.

[Soul Shinobi]

I was worried that moving it higher would look odd, or create lift. It's lower than he's pictured it if you look at the STI.

[MoclovFlop]

Now by just looking at the pictures. It doesn't really curve with the body/window line. What if you switch it upside down? it'll looks more "flush" with the window there.

And moving it higher wouldn't hurt it either.


I've mentioned this in a few of my posts, it is only noticeable from a few angles, any farther than 3 feet from the car and it looks fine. However, I thought about this, but it's actually an airfoil shape, so by turning it around it would cause some weird drag issues I'm sure (not that having it the current way is going to be beneficial anyways... :-? )

Plus the way it attaches to the mounts is a one-way kind of thing.
AND, having the curve open towards the trunk just looks crazy because it sticks up, its apex would be something like 6" above the roof line even if the mounts were 1/3rd of the way down the window.

And like I said, this isn't the dead-set placement, i can move it around and everything when I actually install it.

EDIT: If my car were black with tint, you'd never notice, being that it's white, it's very obvious. I mentioned earlier using black vinyl to replicate the curve off the top of the window onto the roof, still an option...


EDIT2: A la...

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/adjust2-1.jpg

Jeez... One more EDIT

The reason it doesn't look crazy weird in person is because it matches the other curves on the rear end... the trunk lid near the window, and the trunk spoiler curve. It's hard to get a good idea of this factor without the full view of the car. Maybe tomorrow I'll try to take a full rear shot so you guys can get an idea of what it looks like in context.

[MoclovFlop]

For you BD guys....

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/bdvane-1.jpg

And a little lower....

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/bdvane2-1.jpg


(thanks Reason for the pics)

it looks okay.. i think that it would look alot better with a spoiler on the back too

[02legacygt]

wow bro that is amazing i love the look,

now you need some SLI STI replica decals for the doors!!!!

[geckoboy86]

Thanks for the pics, MoclovFlop!

Hey,
Can you measure that spoiler for me (just an end to end measurement)?
Also could you take a pic of the bottom of the bracket?
Thanks in advance.

If this looks like it might fit a BD Im so doing this.

[MoclovFlop]

Thanks for the pics, MoclovFlop!

Hey,
Can you measure that spoiler for me (just an end to end measurement)?
Also could you take a pic of the bottom of the bracket?
Thanks in advance.

If this looks like it might fit a BD Im so doing this.


Sure, here's a big batch of pics and some measurements:

The mounts flair out from top to bottom of c-pillar. So at the most outer edge of the "top" of the mounts, it measures roughly 46.5". "Bottom" of the mounts it spans about 48". Holes are relative to this as well, measuring about 45.5" and 46.5" respectively.

Here's how the mount looks:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1276-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1277-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1278-1.jpg


And as promised, a few pics from more angles and a distance. Please note, it moves through out the pics, I've found an ideal location for it's placement so again these are just for reference, not the final placement:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1279-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1291-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1281-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1282-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1284-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1285-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1286-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1288-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1290-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1292-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/IMG_1293-1.jpg


Sorry there's so many, I'm using them as inspiration so I'm getting some records to look back on to make myself actually drill the holes.

Also, Mods, I realize i've hijacked this thread, feel free to separate my info from the initial reason this thread was created if you think it'll be better.

[Drakien]

I'm Sold! I will get one!!!! :smt023

When its running again :D

[WESTcoast]

I want thats is too sick!!! How flexible is it though??

[MoclovFlop]

It's not flexible, it's extruded aluminum. So there's no chance of bending it without it breaking.

[Soul Shinobi]

I had no idea, I thought it was plastic.

[Legacy89]

If i can get one, i will do that too. It looks great.

[Bd4mp-dub]

so this one isa stock one mounted on? the ebay CF one doesnt have removable end caps?

[MoclovFlop]

Right, the aftermarket ones do not have end caps, so mountng would be harder because you would have to measure a lot more before drillng so that when you bolt it on from the inside, it matches the holes on the bottom.

Side note: my car may be totaled thanks to some wicked hail damage, so this is on hold until everything is figured out

[geckoboy86]

Side note: my car may be totaled thanks to some wicked hail damage, so this is on hold until everything is figured out

That Sucks. I hate asking but got pics?

[Drakien]

Side note: my car may be totaled thanks to some wicked hail damage, so this is on hold until everything is figured out

That Sucks. I hate asking but got pics?

Yeah that would be a sad day :smt010

[Reason]

I'll be a test dummy, someone send me the spoiler :wink:

I had the idea of putting a diffuser on the rear window, Just trying to find something that would fit.

That doesn't look too bad on the BE with the spoiler, not sure without though.

[MoclovFlop]

I'm actually still doing this... Within a week actually. Just ordered some paint from paintscratch to do the end caps and then I'll throw it on.

Still no pics of the hail damage, but the car is now paid off and got some money from it too, so I'm no longer apprehensive about drilling into the c-pillars

[Bd4mp-dub]

just wondering if any1 got this thing drilled on yet? i bought one and was wonderin if i ws guna b the first .

[Soul Shinobi]

Are you the third to be 'ready' to install this then? Everyone all set for the race to be rear window spoilered? On your mark, get set, GO!!

[Reason]

This is going to look good once installed.

[Bd4mp-dub]

Everyone all set for the race to be rear window spoilered? On your mark, get set, GO!!

wht do i get if i take 1st haha. ***Pix Sunday**

[Bd4mp-dub]

i was wondering if anyone has some advice on siliconing (if thats a word) the holes for the roof spoiler. i never don e it before and dont want my pilllar to start rusting. any thing helps thanks.

[Legacy89]

Just put some silicone in the hole on the bare metal and it should be fine. I got a tube of clear silicone that is use. No rust yet on any of the holes i made.

[MoclovFlop]

Alrighty, I'm done!
Pics tomorrow afternoon, since I don'thave Internet yet At my new house and haven't figured out how to upload pics from an iPhone to photobucket. Either way it's sick and I'm done...

[Bd4mp-dub]

now a race to get pics on. i get mine tomo from ups.!!!! super pumped!!

[MoclovFlop]

Win ?!?!....


https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/08/IMG_1306-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/08/IMG_1307-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/08/IMG_1308-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/08/IMG_1309-1.jpg

With end caps, freshly painted...

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/08/IMG_1310-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/08/IMG_1311-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/08/IMG_1312-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/08/IMG_1313-1.jpg


There is seriously ONE spot where it fits just right. And even there it needed to be snugged up to the c-pillar with the hardware. Drilling was stupid easy. Reading the install threads for WRX's on NASIOC made it sound like it would be a bitch. But on the BE, there is only one layer of sheet metal for the bottom bolt and 3 very spaced-out layers for the upper bolt. A sharp bit and decent drill was all it took.

Hardware needed was 2 bolts measuring 2.5" x1/4" and 2 measuring 1" x 1/4", and of course washers, lock washers, and nuts.

I also used high density foam tape to seal up the feet. This is similar to what was on it from the factory, and then finished off the holes with silicone.

[Soul Shinobi]

Fantastic!

[Huffer]

Looks great - you win. I don't see any of this hail damage you mentioned though?

[Reason]

Yea I like that, good job :smt023

[Bd4mp-dub]

drool..... i luv it. i wonder the differnce its oing to be on my BD

[Drakien]

:smt023 That looks killer Awesome!

[rougeben83]

looks good, the only angle that it looks slightly off is the first pic, where you can see the concavity of the spoiler vs. the rear windshield...it only looks off because I've looked at mine so many times though :smt002

[MoclovFlop]

Looks great - you win. I don't see any of this hail damage you mentioned though?

you can see some of the damage to the window trim in the close up pic of the exposed foot. The entire passenger side has a lot of dents but the rest of the car is fine. It's suprisingly hard to photograph, at least in full daylight.

Technically every panel had damage, so they totaled it, but I can live with the damage for a while, and they gave me a decent check plus the car, and the title stayed clean. All the more reason to do things like this.

[Huffer]

so they totaled it, ..... and the title stayed clean.

Not possible. When insurance adjustments like a payout for total loss occurs the car MUST have a salvage/R title. You'll want to check this with them again, and get it in writing. You'll also want to make sure this is the case with your DMV.

[MoclovFlop]

I have the title in hand and it is not salvage or rebuilt, or branded. Allstate said that because it was hail damage, it does not create a salvage condition. I'll gladly give you the allstate totals Adjuster's number and he can tell you himself.

Edit: found out Colorado doesn't require hail damage to be indicated on the vehicle.

[Huffer]

I stand corrected then - in Ohio if it's listed as a total loss it's an automatic salvage.

[Bd4mp-dub]

the BD and BE are different lengths i suppose cuz mine doesnt no sit nearly as high as tha one installed. ill put sum pics up tonight

[MoclovFlop]

I stand corrected then - in Ohio if it's listed as a total loss it's an automatic salvage.


Yea, It seems to vary widely state to state, I was surprised myself since i thought totaled meant branded title.

And BD4, yea I think it was discussed earlier that the BE is wider at the rear window. Hopefully you didn't have to install it too low, making it look like a Merkur or something...

[WESTcoast]

the BD and BE are different lengths i suppose cuz mine doesnt no sit nearly as high as tha one installed. ill put sum pics up tonight


PICS NOWZ HAHA

[Bd4mp-dub]

the BD and BE are different lengths i suppose cuz mine doesnt no sit nearly as high as tha one installed. ill put sum pics up tonight


PICS NOWZ HAHA

i dont actually have it on yet. to vbusy with college and work to have time but heres sum pics to show how it hugs the window more on a bd then a be. i personally like it alot. im excited to finally get it on.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2867/3121/32166560122_medium.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2867/3121/32166560121_medium.jpg

[MoclovFlop]

Looks good, it does hug a lot better.... GET IT ON

[aurelius]

HECK, YES PT 2.

[Grafton]

soooooo how much is the window spoiler?

[Bd4mp-dub]

soooooo how much is the window spoiler?
mine cost 125 shippped. bt it was used and could u some freesh paint on the cap.s

[Grafton]

that's not nearly as bad as i was expecting.

[Bd4mp-dub]

yes after putting it off for a month AND a half i got my sti roof spoiler on my BD. It fit fairly good. one side is a lil off the piller because the length is jst a little different but cant really tell hunless r really lookin on it.

let me no wht u think

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2867/3121/32166560127_medium.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2867/3121/32166560124_medium.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2867/3121/32166560125_medium.jpg
Here is the little gap.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2867/3121/32166560128_medium.jpg

[MoclovFlop]

Hmm, looks like you should have trimmed it a little more so that it could sit higher on the c pillar and probably close that gap you have there.

Looks fine though, definietely unique

[Bd4mp-dub]

Hmm, looks like you should have trimmed it a little more so that it could sit higher on the c pillar and probably close that gap you have there.

Looks fine though, definietely unique

ya it fits alot better on ur 3rd gen. i wanted it up a lil higher but if i did that the gap was massive. i really like it tho. i think it looks good.

[httrdd]

To each their own, but I personally hate the way it looks. If you like it then go for it!

[Bd4mp-dub]

To each their own, but I personally hate the way it looks. If you like it then go for it!

y wood u even post that? didnt do anyone any good

[MoclovFlop]

ya it fits alot better on ur 3rd gen. i wanted it up a lil higher but if i did that the gap was massive. i really like it tho. i think it looks good.

Yea, that's why I was saying you should have trimmed it. As in, take the actual airfoil out of the end mounts and cut it shorter length-wise, and then put it back together. It's only extruded aluminum, would have been easy to do with a angle grinder....hell even a hacksaw.

Too late now I suppose with the holes in the c-pillar. But at least it's not in the middle of the window.

[rougeben83]

To each their own, but I personally hate the way it looks. If you like it then go for it!

y wood u even post that? didnt do anyone any good

People are entitled to their opinion. good and bad. And learn how to spell. Please. This isn't some txt board for cellphones.

[Payback45]

Maybe I missed it but where can you buy one that will fit a BE?

[Bd4mp-dub]

Maybe I missed it but where can you buy one that will fit a BE?
its jus a stock STI Roof Spoiler. I got mine used from ebay for 120. It fits the BE's better because the rear window is wider. obvisoust u have to drill ur own holes in the c-piller tho. u can get one from a subaur dealer but prolly a lot more expensive.

[Payback45]

What year STI will fit?
Also, did you have to remove the plastic molding on the inside of the c piller to attach a nut or what ever?

[MoclovFlop]

It only came on 06-07 models, but because the rear window never changed on the WRX/STI from 2002-2007... you can get any roof vane advertised for those years and it will work. However, be wary of the eBay knockoff ones, as it may be more difficult to get proper hole placement. As i stated in this thread, the knockoff ones do not have removable endcaps, so you can only attach them by screwing hardware into the feet from inside the car.

And yes, you have to take out the c-pillar trim to access the hardware and do some sealing. Putting them back in was actually the worst part of the job.

[DLC]

Having seen MoclovFlop's first hand, I think it actually looks pretty cool.

[Payback45]

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=sti++r ... p=15&_sc=1 (http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=sti++roof+spoiler&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A2475&_dmpt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=15&_sc=1)

So what do you guys think of these? Which ones look legit?

[Payback45]

Well I have taken the plunge and bought one. It wasn't off e-bay it was from a NASIOC member for $180. The end caps come off so it is legit. Its not CF but I am ok with that. Unfortunately the caps are white and will needed to be painted to match my car. Updates and pics as this project progresses.

[MoclovFlop]

Painting is easy, just go to paintscratch.com and get a can of spray base coat and a can of clear, won't be more than $30, an takes maybe an hour if you're not an idiot

[Payback45]

thanks for the info. I might feel like an idiot if I screw up the drilling

[Payback45]

would I need the primer also?

[Payback45]

I think I have just about everything I need for this project: Power drill with new bits, High density foam tape, silicone, bolts, washers, lock washers, and nuts also paint and clear coat. The end caps I am getting are white. Will I have to sand the caps at all or can I just paint them silver a few times then clear coat them and be done with it?

The spoiler comes tomorrow and with some luck it should be on by the end of tomorrow. But knowing how other "simple" projects have gone it might take longer.

Is there anything i missed parts wise?

[MoclovFlop]

Just sand or prime the end caps (I did both) use a higher grit sand paper (400+) to not leave visible marks and use a white primer if you go that route.

And since your base Is white and your top coat is silver, if you only sand you'll be fine color wise, just do a few coats to get good coverage.

Let the end caps dry for a while before trying to snap them on, you will be putting some pressure on them and don't want to leave fnger prints in the fresh paint. I drove around without end caps for a day just to make sure they were good.

[Payback45]

Sorry buddy I posted in both forums to get more responses. But I get what your saying. When I went to that paint site I only bought the paint and clear coat not the primer. No one answered my post when I asked if I needed primer so I didnt buy any.

Was it easy to take out the plastic molding inside the car? Is there a trick to it or a certin place to start taking it off? Did you have to take off the OH S#$T handels?

[MoclovFlop]

It's easy to take off, just work you're way around the edges pulling, and no there's nothing else to take off. Getting it back on is a bitch, I don't have any advice there execpt expect to break some of the clips. I have taken mine off for the head liner and the roof vane, so I'm down to like 2 clips holding each one on....

And you can just buy some primer at the hardware/auto parts store. Or don't use any and just sand well.

[Payback45]

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Not that hard in the end. Like MoclovFlop the hardest part came in the end when I had to reinstall the plastic molding. Especially on the driver side for some reason.
Turned out the bolt spec's of 1/4" x 2" were a bit short for me I had to take a trip to Home Depot to get 1/4" x 3" and it worked like a charm. Also, the foam tape I bought was way to thick when I applied it and trying to cut it to a right size was just not going very well so I tried to cut it to a decent thickness. So there is some foam tape on the feet but not much.
Drilling was a breeze. Once I marked the right spots and kind of measured and eyeballed it I just started drilling. I suppose I could have spent all night measuring to get it to the exact spot but I think I did a pretty good job being by my self. MoclovFlop was right there is a sweet spot where it all looks and feels right.

Tomorrow my paint is coming and then I need to sand the end caps and paint and thats it. When I was at Home Depot the highest grit sand paper they had was 220. Is that going to be fine enough? I looked for 400+ but they just didn't have it.

[MoclovFlop]

Looks good!

Do not use 220, that's for rough sanding wood, make a trip to an auto parts store tomorrow and get at least 400.

[Payback45]

You got it.

[Payback45]

The painting went very well. It isnt as shinny as the rest of the car but it still looks great. I will post pics when I get my Camera back

[rougeben83]

The painting went very well. It isnt as shinny as the rest of the car but it still looks great. I will post pics when I get my Camera back

wait a week, then wet sand the paint with 800 grit paper, then hit it with some polishing compound and then wax.

[geckoboy86]

Can someone upload bigger pics of it on a BD?
One of these has popped up in my area and i want to see if its worth getting

[Bd4mp-dub]

Hope these help

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/03/32166560139_large-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/03/32166560137_large-1.jpg

that looks good man but you've got way too many stickers back there lol

[geckoboy86]

That does help alot. Thanks!

[ESSYMOND]

can you get a complete side view?

[chuckthefuk]

bump for more BD hotness.. Bump for install shots. Bump for multiple views..

-Chuck

[Matty2Hotty]

Im bitting the bullet and going with a full carbon fiber one. We will find out next week Tuesday or Wednesday how this install will go.

[lord flashheart]

Almost no one on here has done anything extraordinary with their Legacy. You're going to have to be the guinea pig.

Shouldnt you be putting more bandaid stickers on your dents? :smt016 :lol:
HAHAHA :smt005

[Matty2Hotty]

^^^ Hahaha... Where can i find some jdm bandaid stickers?

[twistedautoworks]

i've thought about putting one on my ride also... i got a fiberglass knockoff from ebay for 50 shipped... nice quality, looks like i'll have to narrow it slightly or modify the mounting angle...

[Matty2Hotty]

Finally got my Full Carbon Fiber STI Roof Vain... Not the best cell pics. I have a new VIS higher spoiler coming later this week. You really cant tell it is carbon from the pics but inperson it looks amazing. The 1st pic doesnt look great from the shadows but it looks great, the 3rd pic does more justice!

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/04/Picture030-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/04/Picture032-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/04/Picture039-1.jpg

[Payback45]

very nice

[Soul Shinobi]

Fantastic, looks great with the JDM upper windows cover things--damn it what are they called again? The rain guards?

[Matty2Hotty]

Yeah rain guards. They are actually the US model not the JDM ones... Believe it or not, took me 3 hours to mount, drill and bolt this baby down by MYSELF. All i can say is a PITA doing this by yourself but i dont really know anyone around here and hang out with anyone to give me a hand installing it.

[ESSYMOND]

^^^ Hahaha... Where can i find some jdm bandaid stickers?

Ebay or http://shinzostore.com/index.php?page=s ... &Itemid=40 (http://shinzostore.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=293&category_id=20&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=40)

[99gtlimited]

It's not really for me, but nice work!

[Bd4mp-dub]

damn so many people are doing this. i was the only 2nd gen tho ill consider that a vistory

[Drakien]

damn so many people are doing this. i was the only 2nd gen tho ill consider that a vistory

Lol I decided against it, because its not unique anymore :cry: But I still think it looks sick on our Gen :smt005

[Flyboy888]

Freakin love it, I hope I can get one soon. Just debating on wether to do the cf or body color match. I have a black car so either way it won't stand out much lol. Awesome thread BTW.

[geckoboy86]

Lol I decided against it, because its not unique anymore


This is why I haven't done it as well as why I took my RS front end off...

[Flyboy888]

Lol I decided against it, because its not unique anymore


This is why I haven't done it as well as why I took my RS front end off...

Hey people may have done it, but NO ONE does it exactly the same.