The Official Coilover/Strut swap fitment guide!

[xXGTBspecXx]

This thread has been taken over and maintained / updated by "chuckthefuk" .

Here is a list of the Impreza coilovers/struts & spring combo that will swap to your Legacy!
- Currently only 89-09 Legacy is listed.
- No 2008+ impreza info. Sorry

---> NOTE <-----
USDM MY04 STI Applies to all GD model listings below

JDM MY01~MY04 STI Applies to all GD models listings below

USDM MY05~07 STi "FRONT" are a no go for all models.. unless you want to modify the lower bolt holes

USDM MY05~07 STI Rears will fit all GD model listings below

USDM GD Wagon struts are compatible with the GD models below but are more narrow then Sedan/STi models. Requires some aid/modification to meet alignment specs.


1989-94 (BC = Sedan (Includes SS) | BJ = Wagon (low roof) | BF = (Wagon (raised roof)
/////////Front/////Rear
GC 93-01 yes///////yes <-- direct bolt in
GD 02-07 yes///////no <-- Rotate front top hat
BE 00-04 yes///////no <-- Rotate front top hat

1995-99 (Includes BD = Sedan (Includes SUS) | BK = Wagon (low roof) | BG = Wagon Outback (raised roof)
/////////Front/////Rear
GC 93-01 yes///////no <-- Requires BD/K/G or GD rear top hat and matching perch
GD 02-07 yes///////yes <-- Rotate front top hat
BE 00-04 yes///////no <-- front = direct bolt in


2000-04 (Includes BE = Sedan (Includes Outback) | BH = Wagon (includes Outback) | BT = Baja (Truck / UTE)

NOTE: -Rear Suspension is Multi-Link not MacPherson struts

////////Front///////Rear
GC 93-01 yes///////no <-- front = direct bolt in
GD 02-07 yes////////no <-- Rotate front top hat
BL 05-09 yes////////no <-- Requires BD/K/G/E/H or GC/D front rotated top hat.


2005-2009 (Includes BL = Sedan | BP = Wagon )
BL/////Front///////Rear
GC 93-01 no///////no
GD 02-07 no////////no

BP/////Front///////Rear
GC 93-01 no///////no
GD 02-07 no////////no


Other info.
This is a direct bolt on list. No modifications besides turning the top hat or replacing the top hat.

I will update the list for rear top hat replacements.. but for now this is good

please feel free to post what else you know fits what and il add it to the list!!

[Airgne]

BC5 and BE5 info would be awsome.

[decke48]

BC///////Front/////Rear
GC 93-01 yes///////yes
GD 02-07 ??///////no


im confused how does the GC suspension fit on the rear of the BD?

[xXGTBspecXx]

no idea but i installed the rear coilovers on liz's car today and to my suprise they were the same.. so on wagons its a no go on sedans fully unmodified swap capable.

[decke48]

yeah but the rear tops are the same for all style 95-99 legacy. BD, BK, BG

[jamal]

yeah that's not right. 1st gen legacy and impreza rear tops are the same bolt pattern, 2nd gen rear tops are the same. They do not interchange between generations. Up front everything is the same until the 05 legacy and 08 impreza.

[xXGTBspecXx]

in correct.. sorry ive put GC coilovers on both a legacy wagon and a sedan. they bolted up on a sedan. they needed to be swapped on the wagon.. BD's and BG/BK's are different in the rear. ive got a tein wagonmaster setup on liz's 95 legacy lsi sedan. and i have a NPG Prova race coilover setup off a ver 3 STi on my legacy wagon..


wait a sec.. those wagon masters ...oh shit. im sorry i retract my previous statment.the coilovers i put on liz's car came off of a 2.5rs but they say GD on the coilover itself.. thats why it bolted up.. im sorry. il change the information asap...


GC COILOVERS/STRUT TOPHATS MUST BE SWAPPED FROM YOUR ORIGINAL SUSPENSION IN THE REAR TO FIT LEGACY'S IN THE YEARS 1995-99

[xXGTBspecXx]

yeah that's not right. 1st gen legacy and impreza rear tops are the same bolt pattern, 2nd gen rear tops are the same. They do not interchange between generations. Up front everything is the same until the 05 legacy and 08 impreza.
thats incorrect. 2nd Gen legacy's and first gen impreza's DO NOT have the same tophat bolt pattern in the rear..

i do have pictures and measurements if you choose to give me a hard time.. and it has been confirmed over on nasioc that they are not the same.

[jamal]

yeah that's not right. 1st gen legacy and impreza rear tops are the same bolt pattern, 2nd gen rear tops are the same. They do not interchange between generations. Up front everything is the same until the 05 legacy and 08 impreza.
thats incorrect. 2nd Gen legacy's and first gen impreza's DO NOT have the same tophat bolt pattern in the rear..

i do have pictures and measurements if you choose to give me a hard time.. and it has been confirmed over on nasioc that they are not the same.

yeah, that's exactly what I said.

1st gen = same
2nd gen = same
not interchangeable.

[Benfolio]

1995-99
BD///////Front/////Rear
GC 93-01 yes///////no
GD 02-07 no///////yes

'05 WRX struts bolted right into my BD (and soon my BK) with no swapping of tophats, front or rear. IN FACT, Napa lists the front tophats as the same part number between a BD and a GD.

[xXGTBspecXx]

thanks il make note of that when i get home.

[chuckthefuk]

IIRC any front top hat will fit any subaru.

So it should be.
BD///////Front/////Rear
GC 93-01 yes///////no
GD 02-07 yes///////yes
GD 04 STi yes///////yes

This should be useful.. From Nabisco --> http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=974624

-Chuck

[xXGTBspecXx]

my front strut bar is off a 2002 wrx and it didnt ft the bolt pattern on my car.

[jamal]

the bolt pattern up front is the same, but rotated. Top hats will interchange but strut tower bars won't. On the other hand, rear WRX strut tower bars work on our cars.

[xXGTBspecXx]

OH duh! lol sorry. i read it last night after driving 7 hours..making changes now!

[RedEvilWgn]

ok im confused....

WTF would fit my 1998 bk GT wagon?????

[chuckthefuk]

Can anyone confirm that 05+ STi sturts have a different bolt design at the bottom.

-Chuck

[decke48]

i can ill take picture sometime, since i have 05 and 5x100 struts floating around

[jamal]

Can anyone confirm that 05+ STi sturts have a different bolt design at the bottom.

-Chuck
yes. Spacing between the flanges and bolts is different. I have newer inserts in 04 housings.

[xXGTBspecXx]

this list is very incomplete... anyone have info on newer leggy's?

[jamal]

BE/BH have the same front suspension but multi-link rear.
BL/BP have a different front top hat bolt pattern (which is the same as 08+ impreza), and a different multi-link rear.

I am not sure on the exact differences between the three multi-link rear suspension, but I have seen 08 impreza coilovers on an 05+ legacy with some modification of the rear lower mount.

[greenspeed]

just for confusion purposes we should make a what can we make fit what mah HAHAHA!

fyi to those interested I've done 07 sti struts on my Bd with stock knuckles. I got my struts from ten80 who modded the holes and included the washers to make it possible. :smt025

[outbacktweaked95]

Alright I have a question im getting ready to put together my parts fora swap to 02-03 WRX struts wit 04 Sti springs. I ordered 04 WRX upper strut mounts for the rear and 03 upper strut mounts for the front. neither of these fit just measured. Anyone got any ideas? Acording to this it should fit.
BK/////Front///////Rear
GC 93-01 yes///////no
GD 02-07 yes////////yes

[Navi271]

Yeah, looks like it would fit to me. Definitely need those wrx top mounts tho. Where did you get those btw?

[daddywagon]

so i can use 02-07 wrx struts on my 96 bg correct? if so anyone have any for sale?

[chuckthefuk]

so i can use 02-07 wrx struts on my 96 bg correct? if so anyone have any for sale?

Yes, you must rotate the front top hat and all will be well. Check the Classified section for parts or your local impreza forum.
-Chuck

[daddywagon]

thanks i know what im doing this weekend.

[Nightkast1111]

So if I have this right .... 04 STi struts will bolt directly onto my BD?

[country side drifter]

just to be sure i undestand so the GC 2001 impreza and under coilover suspension will fit up front. and for the rear i just have to swap with the stock top hats to make it fit to go on 1998 legacy wagon.

[j_saffron]

ok im confused....

Haha, i think this to myself after EVERY suspension "guide" i read on here. the same convo goes on for pages...

[Wangan Wagon]

So according to this.....

BG//////Front//////Rear
GC 93-01 yes///////no
GD 02-07 yes////////yes

.... I should be able to reorder and fit these coilovers to my BK wagon?

*First on the page: http://jdmplace.com/ProductList.asp?Cat=Suspension&Pg=3

[legacy98gt]

wat about 03 wrx springs only fit to my bd struts n tophats with no modification?

[Robbks]

wat about 03 wrx springs only fit to my bd struts n tophats with no modification?
You will need the matching top-hats for the '03 REAR Springs. (03+ WRX/ STi have tapered rear springs)

however 01-02 GD WRX will go directly in

[legacy98gt]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LOWERING ... 2ea9c05806 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LOWERING-SPRINGS-SUBARU-WRX-02-03-IMPREZA-RS-WAGON-D1_W0QQitemZ200416450566QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2ea9c05806) wat about these they say 02 and 03, if not does anyone now where i can get some tophats at?

[Robbks]

for $30 i doubt they're very good at all.

seriously, keep a look out for complete sets of 01-04 STi springs/ Struts/ tophats from STi owners who have upgraded to coilovers

[legacy98gt]

will they fit or do i need top hats? i want to get em cause i dont have much money and just want somwthing better then stock, i already have brand new struts so i dont want to buy new ones

[legacy98gt]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Used-Sub ... 45efdf9f9c (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Used-Subaru-WRX-Eibach-Lowering-Springs-JDM-2002_W0QQitemZ300377153436QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item45efdf9f9c) theres also these but they will probobly go up way over my bydget but ill be watching em, i have 100 to spend on my car this month and i just cant save(tried that before didnt last a week) so im looking to do it all for under 100

[Wangan Wagon]

According to these references:

BK/////Front///////Rear
GC 93-01 yes///////no
GD 02-07 yes////////yes

BD///////Front/////Rear
GC 93-01 yes///////no
GD 02-07 yes///////yes
GD 04 STi yes///////yes

Should the suspension of a BD fit a BG/BK chassis? If so, there is a D2 Racing coilover setup that shout fit my wagon and my friend's sedan..... which means DISCOUNT!!!!

[klix]

Okay, so I have something a bit different:

05 STI - COBB Sports all around
05 STI - Rear struts and top-hats
04 STI - Front struts and top-hats

I have been running for nearly a week with no issue :smt023 ... but can only reach +.75 rear camber. I am thinking of using two camber bolts per side to achieve a -1 camber... think this is safe or should I stick with just the one with hopes of reaching near -.25? There are also adjustable links, aren't there? Anyone use em before and what type?

Thanks in advance.

Here is a pic by the way, it actually sits a little bit lower in the front but the snow has it pitched upward...
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/01/18562_260534058231_818168231_325115-1.jpg

[EJ25_B4_RSK]

BE/BH have the same front suspension but multi-link rear.
BL/BP have a different front top hat bolt pattern (which is the same as 08+ impreza), and a different multi-link rear.

I am not sure on the exact differences between the three multi-link rear suspension, but I have seen 08 impreza coilovers on an 05+ legacy with some modification of the rear lower mount.


So if i understand this correctly.... :smt017 FOR THE FRONT 02-04 WRX/sti struts, springs, and top hats will directly bolt onto a BE as long as you use all the same parts (struts, springs, and top hats) from the same year?

and for the rear...????

[Lone_legacy]

Why hasn't this thread been stickied?

[klix]

Why hasn't this thread been stickied?
Probably because it isn't a very intuitive layout... Really hard for me to follow at least, and I actually know a little bit about all of them!

[Lone_legacy]

I see at least a couple people a week posting on this forum asking whether wrx or sti suspension will fit their BD. This is the most comprehensive thread on suspension fitment.

[jey]

Why hasn't this thread been stickied?

We don't sticky most threads directly, we add them to the threads of note which IS stickied:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=17131 (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=17131)

That way you don't have to scroll past pages of stickied threads. There is lots of good information on this forum!

[Lone_legacy]

Yeah, threads of note are helpful. A threads of note specifically for suspension swaps is an awesome idea. Guess I missed it.

[legacy98gt]

no one answers questions around here man, so will 02-03 wrx springs fit my bd? without changing anything but springs? no top hats no spring perches just use my stock stuff but with wrx springs

[Lone_legacy]

no one answers questions around here man, so will 02-03 wrx springs fit my bd? without changing anything but springs? no top hats no spring perches just use my stock stuff but with wrx springs
No they will not. You need 02-03 wrx front spring perches

[ouch1011]

Just to add to the list, Tein Flex coilovers for an 02-06 WRX or 04 STI bolted up directly to my car. Just had to swap the camber plates side to side to get the bolt pattern right without completely throwing off their function.

[legacy98gt]

so wat year will bolt on with no modification?

[Lone_legacy]

so wat year will bolt on with no modification?

If you are talking about mounting just wrx or sti springs onto stock BD struts then none. (correct me if I am wrong suspension Gods). If you are looking for the least amount of modification, then look for 02-07 wrx or 04 sti take offs. I.E. struts, springs, perches, tophats already together. These will bolt up to your chassis with little to no modification. They are for sale all the time on NASIOC and other forums and are pretty affordable. I hope this helps.

[legacy98gt]

i just got new struts like 4 months ago and just want to lower it for half way cheap, i see springs for 02-03 wrx for hella cheap

[Lone_legacy]

i just got new struts like 4 months ago and just want to lower it for half way cheap, i see springs for 02-03 wrx for hella cheap

You can run those springs, you just need 02-03 wrx front spring perches because the wrx spring has a smaller diameter at the top. Look for a set used or new, they should be pretty cheap.

[legacy98gt]

by perches do you mean top hats?

[Lone_legacy]

by perches do you mean top hats?

Nope. perches fit in between the spring and the tophat. They look like cone-shaped hats for the springs. Look in the factory service manual and you'l know what I am talking about.

[legacy98gt]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-NEW-05 ... ccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-NEW-05-09-Subaru-Impreza-Strut-Mount-Kits_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2305ae885aQQitemZ150419179610QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories) so is this wat your talking about? or this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-MONROE ... ccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-MONROE-STRUT-MOUNTS-903983-1993-2001-SUBARU-IMPREZA_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4cede56063QQitemZ330408747107QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories) they look different

[Lone_legacy]

Those are strut mounts. strut mounts=top hats. You need spring perches. You need to do some of your own research. Did you look at your service manual? If you don't have it, you can DL off this site, just SEARCH for it.

[klix]

Sorry it's sooo blurry... Its the only pic i have on the laptop that shows mine assembled and in pieces.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/03/struts-1.jpg

[legacy98gt]

man ive searched but all these parts look the same, ill just buy a whole strut set up and call it a day screw it, thanks for the pic i think i now wat it is now, is there a lace i can but just those?

[Sambo]

ok so ive read over this forum a few times now and im still confused about my BG what would i have to do to get something like this on my car
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUBARU-I ... 2c540331c2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUBARU-IMPREZA-WRX-STI-04-RED-STRUTS-SHOCKS-2004_W0QQitemZ190388056514QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2c540331c2)
or what would i need to get/look for?

[Lone_legacy]

ok so ive read over this forum a few times now and im still confused about my BG what would i have to do to get something like this on my car
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUBARU-I ... 2c540331c2 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUBARU-IMPREZA-WRX-STI-04-RED-STRUTS-SHOCKS-2004_W0QQitemZ190388056514QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2c540331c2)
or what would i need to get/look for?

04 STI struts and springs are a direct bolt on. No modifications required.

[rstimpreza]

will a Helix dNA coilover off a 03 WRx sedan fit to a BG?

[jamal]

BE/BH have the same front suspension but multi-link rear.
BL/BP have a different front top hat bolt pattern (which is the same as 08+ impreza), and a different multi-link rear.

I am not sure on the exact differences between the three multi-link rear suspension, but I have seen 08 impreza coilovers on an 05+ legacy with some modification of the rear lower mount.


So if i understand this correctly.... :smt017 FOR THE FRONT 02-04 WRX/sti struts, springs, and top hats will directly bolt onto a BE as long as you use all the same parts (struts, springs, and top hats) from the same year?

and for the rear...????
rear looks exactly the same as a BL/BP to me. So a full set of that suspension should fit a BE as far as I can tell, along with rear swaybars. Front swaybars from BE to BL are not the same though.

[burnman]

The intended purpose of this thread is pretty much why I joined this forum. Looking for more options for my '95 sedan. However, reading through this kinda gives me a headache. From the original post I gather I can throw any GD Impreza suspension on my BD Legacy (Sedan to sedan, right?). But reading through the rest makes me uneasy and confused. Is it "Yes it fits, bolt it in, done." or "Yes it fits but you need to swap left and rights, turn stuff around or some other stuff." The parts I'm looking at are the Bilstein PSS9's. http://www.bilsteinus.com/cart/index.ph ... 073&zenid= (http://www.bilsteinus.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2073&zenid=) Will these work? And if so how much work to make them work?

Thanks, B

[DarkPhoenix]

I google-fu'd this and didn't see anything on it. Maybe I should have my black belt revoked, but I have a set of 06 WRX springs. Can I put these on BG Outback Struts? I am not looking to lower it too much, but I definitely want to stiffen it.

[Sambo]

ok so i have these 04 wrx struts with sti springs. i have butt sagg and well i dont want to put the spacers in it i would rather drop the front an inch to correct it. anyone know how i would go along with doing that ? or am i stuck with having to put spacers in the back ?

[hrdrifter]

SO these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GODSPEED ... ccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GODSPEED-WRX-02-06-04-STI-TYPE-SS-COILOVER-SUSPENSION-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQfitsZSubmodelQ3aWRXQQhashZitem45f516f8bdQQitemZ300464666813QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
Will fit on my 98 GT sdn?

[LiCelsior]

yea 04 sti susp will fit...search on nasioc about those coils though.

[ESSYMOND]

These camber bolts will work?

http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/susp ... perfCode=P (http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/suspension.jsp?&make=Eibach&model=Recommended+Align.+Kit&group=Recommended+Align.+Kit&autoMake=Subaru&autoModel=Impreza+WRX+Sedan&autoYear=2002&autoModClar=&partNum=5.81260K&perfCode=P)

[chuckthefuk]

Wtf? That's expensive.. any 14mm camber bolt will fit. I am,pretty sure 14mm I got a set from whiteline and ingalls for under $30 a set. There cheap look at ebay.

-chuck(tapatalk)

[Lone_legacy]

Touge Tuning in ssauga sells em for $25.99 CAD

[adbramsay]

So I have a 1997 bg5 GTB wagon, 02-07wrx/04sti shocks will bolt right up? Or do I need the wagon specific WRX shocks?

[TbirdMan]

Ok, so if i understand, the GC impreza struts and springs I have (KYB GR2 and Prodrive P1) will bolt onto my '99 GT Limited sedan if I swap the rear tophats? will a sedan get the same butt sag as the wagon?

[LiCelsior]

04 STi works, installed it today with breeeze.

[adbramsay]

ok so I now know that I can use 02-07 wrx and 04 sti struts, am I going to get sag using them or do I have to use wagon specific struts?

[LiCelsior]

i used STi pinks takeoffs and it has buttsag in the rear. dunno about wrx wagon though.

[adbramsay]

anyone know where to get Bilsteins rebuilt on the east coast? I dont want to ship to cali

[SubaruKidLegacy]

soooo.. i dunno if this is a reallly noooob question but if i wer to buy aftermarket coilover setup for a 02- 07 GD it would still fit right, im guessing yes but i just want to make suuure, 100% sure before i go spending a minimum of a gnote on coilovers for my 98 BD

[LiCelsior]

yep it will bolt right up.

[SubaruKidLegacy]

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet lol

[Bimmerman]

So, little different question.

I'm looking at GD AST4100s, which I know will bolt up. My question is on FRONT top hats/camber plates-- will GC front top hats/plates work without rotating the bolt pattern (and loosing their utility)? I.e. if I use front GC camber plates or top hats, will I be able to use the camber/caster adjustment as intended, or will it still be rotated slightly and off? I'm likely going to go with the Vorshlag plates when I get to it, which come in both GC and GD versions.

Thanks suspension gurus!

[Dmang]

What if I wanna just stiffen the car up, maybe a little lower. What struts/shocks should I use if I don't wanna spend a fortune. I don't want butt sag either.

[chuckthefuk]

OEM wrx struts with saggy butt spacers. if your thrifty then it should cost you less then $150.

-Chuck

[90lsturbo]

What if I wanna just stiffen the car up, maybe a little lower. What struts/shocks should I use if I don't wanna spend a fortune. I don't want butt sag either.
same here on my bh wagon? so i can straight swap 04 sti assembly to my car and get a decent height drop? or no

[chuckthefuk]

What if I wanna just stiffen the car up, maybe a little lower. What struts/shocks should I use if I don't wanna spend a fortune. I don't want butt sag either.
same here on my bh wagon? so i can straight swap 04 sti assembly to my car and get a decent height drop? or no

Only the fronts.. you have a multi-link rear setup .. super fancy .. super complicated...

[90lsturbo]

well from ive been told i can direct swap all the stock 05 wrx stuff on the bh with some slight modding on the rear and get a 1" drop and a pretty decent drive even better because they already have lowering springs and my only thing is those that have them how do they like it?

[chuckthefuk]

BE
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/07/bpbilstein1-1.jpg

GD
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2011/07/24287790007_large-1.jpg

The rear is completely different..

Maybe they ment to say 08+ wrx works with modding.. I doubt it but its at least a multi-link setup.

-Chuck

[mycargoesvroom]

Ok I feel stupid for asking this because I'm 99% sure I already know the answer but I'd like to make sure before I pull the trigger and end up getting pissed off if I'm wrong. 02-03 WRX Springs should fit on BD Perches correct? IIRC it's the 04+ stuff that has tapered springs right?

[chuckthefuk]

Yes and no..

The rears will wiggle around

[mycargoesvroom]

Can you be more specific? Does that mean the Legacy perch is wider then the WRX spring?

[chuckthefuk]

Yes it is wider.. so it slides forward/back/left/right.

It is possible to ride with the larger perch but its not recommened.

You can just grab some RS/WRX rears and be done with it.

Example: Zak's BK is running this combo;

F = 97' LGT struts w/ 02 WRX hotchkis springs
R = 05' RS strusts w/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

-Chuck

[mycargoesvroom]

OK thanks for the heads up. I actually happen to have rear perches from an 02 lying around so I'll throw them on. It's just the rear where this is an issue correct?

[RTFM]

so, to settle this for the 97-99 legacy gt..

if i want to buy godspeed coilovers for 600 from ebay..
they will fit the front but not the rear?
and the ONLY thing i will need is top hats from a 93-01 impreza
and then it WILL work with NO problems and thats it?

[chuckthefuk]

Which godspeed coilovers from ebay? 92-01 Impreza ? 02-07 / 04 STi Imperza / 05+ sti?

Be specific

[jzizza]

Apologize in advance if this question was already answered i couldnt find a solid answer for my question. Im curious if raceland coilovers for a GD will fit on my BE. I know the rear is completely different but ive been told swapped with wrx tophats they should mount up. I dont mind If i have to tweak em for the price of em but if its a dead end please let me know

[chuckthefuk]

The fronts will fit. The rears will not.

BE/BH fit.

The rear struts from the multilink rear end are much shorter then the larger GC/GD versions..

A few members are running BL/BP coilovers all around.. Check the forums.
-Chuck

[jzizza]

Thanks for the quick reply. Glad i didnt purchase them lol. Looks like im going on springs..

[LegAhhSee]

Sorry but all this bh bd gc wrx sti sob swap got me on the way to the psyco ward, i have a 2000 legacy wagon gt and all i want is to find a nice complete set of bolt in suspension, dont wanna swap anything, somthing from tein or bilstein or anything that will give me a good ride and good handling, anyone could tell me what i need and the part numbers to ask for, its a jdm, and i live in the Cayman Islands so i have to get it right the first time ordering, if not its gonna cost me a bundle to reship in order to get the right parts, so someone please help.

[Wiscon_Mark]

I don't have part #s but anything from 2000-2004 Legacy wagon (BH, that's yours) will work, and the 2005-2009 (BL) can bolt up as well. JDM years are different, but if it's listed for a 3rd or 4th gen, you can use it.

There are JDM Bilstein suspensions on sale on eBay quite often.

[LegAhhSee]

I don't have part #s but anything from 2000-2004 Legacy wagon (BH, that's yours) will work, and the 2005-2009 (BL) can bolt up as well. JDM years are different, but if it's listed for a 3rd or 4th gen, you can use it.

There are JDM Bilstein suspensions on sale on eBay quite often.
ok, will the same year usdm fit on the jdm

[subyj]

yeah im also pretty confused, i have a 2000 outback which is a BH? so none of the GC, GD fits? what about GH or is that the new wrx that doesnt fit anything?

help please!

[02_Legacy]

yeah im also pretty confused, i have a 2000 outback which is a BH? so none of the GC, GD fits? what about GH or is that the new wrx that doesnt fit anything?

help please!

Fronts will work from other models, however rears will not work from any model besides 3rd (BE, BH) or 4th gen (BL, BP) legacy's. Personally I have only heard people say that 4th gen rears work and I have never seen any proof.

[subyj]

would BL,BP fit on the front or would i have to run two different kinds of coilovers

[02_Legacy]

Yes BL/BP fronts will work, however the strut top hats needs to be changed because where the strut bolts to the body is a little different on the 2.

[subyj]

ok how hard is that to do?

[02_Legacy]

not too bad, but you need a spring compressor. I think you can rent the cheap ones at an autozone/oreilly's. Just compress the spring, remove the retaining nut (Impact will make this much easier), exchange parts, and put back together. Its kinda hard to explain more detailed than that unless you are looking at it and/or know the terminology.

[subyj]

yeah this obviously isnt my area of expertise lol

i have access to a spring compressor but what kind of top hat do i need?

[02_Legacy]

The one meant for your car, BE/BH.

[subyj]

oh ok that makes sence
thanks for all the help!

[LegAhhSee]

Im not looking to swap anything, i wanna just buy a new complete set but dont no what to look for, the car is just street, so what i want is a super comfy ride with out having to pay thousands of dollars, im looking for a set for the front and back complete, struts, springs and everything that it needs, preferable tein or bilstein, but what do you guys suggest in other brands.

[Chrisboy]

I got a 97 legacy gt wagon. What suspension will fit my car? I just need a point blank answer as I am having difficulty understanding the posts.

Thank you.

[98bk6]

I got a 97 legacy gt wagon. What suspension will fit my car? I just need a point blank answer as I am having difficulty understanding the posts.

Thank you.
I have 04 sti megan track series coilovers on my 98 gt wagon, you can go with bc coilovers they a optional rear camber plates for an extra $125 or $150. My rears bolted right up but I had to modify the fronts a little. Redrilled the front so the camber plates would be horizontal for camber adjustment and wielded the old holes up. But if you don't want to drill your front sthen I would go with bc coilovers for our cars, depends how you budget is.

[Chrisboy]

Yup I heard that bc has some for our wagons. How about wrx or sti stock suspension, what will fit without changing a single thing, sort of plug and play. Thanks!

[98bk6]

Yup I heard that bc has some for our wagons. How about wrx or sti stock suspension, what will fit without changing a single thing, sort of plug and play. Thanks!


There's no way around it unless you get the bc coilovers, or you can mix it up 92-01 fronts, with 02-07 rears. Just throwing that out there, but I wouldn't recommend doing it. If you don't want to mod anything go for the bc's for our wagons, best bang for your buck.

[chuckthefuk]

I got a 97 legacy gt wagon. What suspension will fit my car? I just need a point blank answer as I am having difficulty understanding the posts.

Thank you.

Fronts and Rears complete = strut / spring / perch / top hat (mount) / dust boot / rubber guides for the springs = assembled (spring compressed already)

2002-2007 RS / WRX
2004 WRX STi
2000~2004ish JDM WRX or WRX STi

The only modification you will have to do is ROTATE the front top hats (mounts) 180 degrees
---> Front top hats have bearing in them that allow the strut to pivot when steering.
---> Just twist and bolt up.

[Chrisboy]

I got a 97 legacy gt wagon. What suspension will fit my car? I just need a point blank answer as I am having difficulty understanding the posts.

Thank you.

Fronts and Rears complete = strut / spring / perch / top hat (mount) / dust boot / rubber guides for the springs = assembled (spring compressed already)

2002-2007 RS / WRX
2004 WRX STi
2000~2004ish JDM WRX or WRX STi

The only modification you will have to do is ROTATE the front top hats (mounts) 180 degrees
---> Front top hats have bearing in them that allow the strut to pivot when steering.
---> Just twist and bolt up.

Thank you sir!

[FirstGenLegacy]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-2001-SUBAR ... 6b&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-2001-SUBARU-Impreza-GC8-JSK-Shock-Spring-Coilovers-/350606689643?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item51a1c9856b&vxp=mtr)
Will these fit my '92 Legacy L Wagon?

[pleaidestar]

So if I'm gathering correctly the stock suspension setup from 02 wrx sedans front and rear will fit up on correctly on bd sedans? The tophats and spring lands from the bd would have to be swapped out for the wrx?

[chuckthefuk]

So if I'm gathering correctly the stock suspension setup from 02 wrx sedans front and rear will fit up on correctly on bd sedans? The tophats and spring lands from the bd would have to be swapped out for the wrx?

WRX strut/springs are direct bolt on just rotate the front top hats 180.

[pleaidestar]

Thanks chuck...got a lil confused, same goes for coilovers or springs listed as sold for wrx? Believe me I'm not usually this dense, its Friday all I can think of is getting wasted for the apocalypse.

[chuckthefuk]

Coilovers are the same however if you choose units with camber plates they will not be at dead centre.. They will be off so adjustments are pointless. The GC top hats work or anything branded BD/BK/BG.

Springs are specific to the strut you use. you can interchange but depending on style and top.

[chuckthefuk]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-2001-SUBARU-Impreza-GC8-JSK-Shock-Spring-Coilovers-/350606689643?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item51a1c9856b&vxp=mtr
Will these fit my '92 Legacy L Wagon?

yes.

[chuckthefuk]

Original post updated! More info added.. Anyone with BE/BH BL/BP and multi link info please post up.

[JBethell80]

Just to make sure I interpreted everything correctly. I have a 99LGT (BD?) and I'm buying RaceLand coilovers.

I'd get the GC's, and rotate the front tophats??

[chuckthefuk]

No you would get the GD and rotate the front top hat. BUT! The camber adjustments will not line up.

You can use the GC but the rear top hats are useless so unless you source GD rears the GC coils are out of the question.

[JBethell80]

No you would get the GD and rotate the front top hat. BUT! The camber adjustments will not line up.

You can use the GC but the rear top hats are useless so unless you source GD rears the GC coils are out of the question.


Hmm...so if I could get RL to sell me a set with GC Fronts, and GD rears, that would do the trick, correct? And the camber adj. will still be right?

[chuckthefuk]

Ummmm.... yes.. but spring rates maybe off..

[JBethell80]

Ummmm.... yes.. but spring rates maybe off..

Forgive my stupidity, suspension is not my forte.

If the spring rates were off, would it make a huge difference? This car won't see a track, and isn't really even driven hard.

Thanks.

[chuckthefuk]

Its fine .

[JBethell80]

Its fine .

Sounds good, thanks a lot for the speedy replies!

[chuckthefuk]

Just to add you can get away with using complete GD coilovers but request or acquire GC front camber plates.

-Chuck

[1055]

Not sure if its mentioned somewhere in this thread.. but op is wrong about the 3rd gen usdm coil fitment, Specifically the 4th gen fitment on the 3rd.

The fronts: the upper top hat will need to be changed, no denying that.. the lower mount holes are also a larger diameter than the eccentric bolt used for camber adjustment. So, you adjust camber by moving the knuckle where you want and tightening the bolt (has been working fine for me for years).

The rears: they are listed as not fitting. They are shorter than stock BE/BH lengths, but any 05-09 rear coilover is a direct bolt in. No swapping top hats no any of that.

[chuckthefuk]

do you have any proof to support those claims?

I listed the front BL/BP needed different top hats.

2000-04 (Includes BE = Sedan (Includes Outback) | BH = Wagon (includes Outback) | BT = Baja (Truck / UTE)

NOTE: -Rear Suspension is Multi-Link not MacPherson struts

////////Front///////Rear
GC 93-01 yes///////no <-- front = direct bolt in
GD 02-07 yes////////no <-- Rotate front top hat
BL 05-09 yes////////no <-- Requires BD/K/G/E/H or GD front rotated top hat.

..

however I did not know about the eccentric bolt and the rear fitment. Not trying to call you out. Just looking for real facts.

[1055]

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/02/areqy7e8-1.jpg

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/02/sugysa6y-1.jpg

Daily driven proof and experience. Lowered 4.5" front and rear on 05-09 megan street xt coilovers with BE front top hats and megan solid upper rear mounts that came with the coilovers.

[chuckthefuk]

Good info . Thanks

[blanquelm92]

How exactly do u have to rotate the top hats? Just until they fall into place?

[chuckthefuk]

The front top hats have bearings built into them. They just spin freely .. twist and insert into strut tower .

[Blitzen_wishin]

Ok, I haven't done much on my '03 BE, but I have been reading a ton. I am still not quite clear on which parts I can pick up that would work as far as suspension wise. A strait forward answer would be sincerely appreciated as I have been reading these boards for the past few days and paging through each post is just plain tiring. (That sounds bad, sorry) Any help would be appreciated. Not really looking to go coilovers or insane autox setup, just something that'll give the sedan a little more aggressive look. Also, with the stock 16'' silverstone rims, should i get wheel spacers to achieve that flush look? Thanks again guys.

[1055]

There are no springs that will really lower your car that much. Most you will find specific for a BE is 1.5" drop. You can probably find some 4th gen springs that would drop it much more, but you would need fourth gen struts, with third gen front top hats and 3rd or 4th gen rears. IIRC, the struts are a wee bit shorter and you can snag 2" springs.

Upgrading the rear sway bar is the single best thing you can do to the BE. The 13mm coat hanger strapped in the rear is JUNK.

You can either go 3rd gen legacy specific or try and find a GD wrx sedan rear swaybar. I will be doing a DIY on how to fit the rear swaybar on a BE shortly. It takes a little work but Is fantastic and cheap.

[1055]

And I'm not familiar with the silverstone wheel you mentioned.. snow flake maybe?

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/02/7anynagy-1.jpg

Here is my car (on coilovers) with the snowflakes. Lowered about 3" at this point. Lowering your car will statically induce camber, so whatever you're thinking spacer wise, you have to factor in that camber when you drop. 3" added about -1.2* front and -2.0* rear as kind of visible in this picture.

Also to keep in mind, you will need extended lug nuts for anything more than 3-4mm of spacer. I would recommend saving yourself the headache of spacers and getting lower offset wheels.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2013/02/sy4ara6y-1.jpg

Here is my same car, lowered 4" with a 17x7.5 +42 wheel.

Not sure if any of this helps but I'm trying :lol:

[Blitzen_wishin]

idk why I thought they were called silverstones, anyhow, yes; the snowflakes are what I have. I figure I will grab the basics, strut tower bar (rear and front). Once i get it dropped on the springs I will get an alignment so tire wear is even. Just to summarize what you've said; 1.5'' is achieved by dropping it on springs(where to buy other then eBay?) and (stock) struts? I might have been misleading when I referenced "flush", I had just meant that I dont want the wheels tucked deep in the well. Definitely not going for a stanced look, just more aggressive. Thanks again for the help.

[chuckthefuk]

Please make a thread for this topic. this thread is strictly coilover information.

[Blitzen_wishin]

I thought the post said coilover and strut swap fitment guide. I'm asking about which struts I can buy from other models that will fit in my 2003 sedan. I read most of the previous replies and didn't really understand the lingo since I'm not familiar with model codes all the B's. Do I still need to create a different topic?

[chuckthefuk]

The first post explains what the B chassis codes are and which struts swap in for you. Talking about springs and quality of ride you want needs to be moved to another topic.

Plain and simple currently the only documented alternative to 2000-2004 BE/BH suspension is the 2005-2009 BL/BP suspension with the BE/BH top hats as "1055" posted above.

-Chuck

[Blitzen_wishin]

Thank you for the clarification. Will make sure I post in the appropriate thread from now on. Thanks again.

Daniel

[Workman217]

So I know I am probably beating a dead horse asking this but will BL/BP springs fit on my BH struts? I have looked at both style struts and they are both similar.........

[Jacobpockros]

Does anyone know if Rear Suspension on a BG is interchangeable with Rear Suspension on a BE if Top Hats are changed out?

[chuckthefuk]

No so sorry..

Gen 1 / 2 Legacy BC/BF/BJ/BD/BK/BG do no use rear multi-link suspension.

Gen 3+ BE/BH/BL/BP/BM/BR Legacy share the same style as each other. Similar to the 08+ Impreza/ 09+ Forester

[fogls]

So this thread confused the shit out of me. I am about to order some coilovers for my 98 gt sedan. If I order the 02-07 WRX coils will they bolt in or do I need to swap top hats?

[86bratman]

Order the 02-07, you can bolt them in without modification. However, if you want the front camber plates to be adjustable you will need to swap sides on the front hats.

[chuckthefuk]

Order the 02-07, you can bolt them in without modification. However, if you want the front camber plates to be adjustable you will need to swap sides on the front hats.

How exactly does this swap work without having the camber plates out of spec>

No matter the orientation from left to right you still need to rotate the hat 180 degrees which will still cause the plate to be out of spec camber/caster instead of just camber.

The correct method is to buy coilovers for a GD and swap the front plates with GC fitment .

If I am mistaken please let me know

-Chuck

[fogls]

Order the 02-07, you can bolt them in without modification. However, if you want the front camber plates to be adjustable you will need to swap sides on the front hats.


You mean just simply unbolt them at the top and switch them from one side to the other?

[fogls]

Order the 02-07, you can bolt them in without modification. However, if you want the front camber plates to be adjustable you will need to swap sides on the front hats.

How exactly does this swap work without having the camber plates out of spec>

No matter the orientation from left to right you still need to rotate the hat 180 degrees which will still cause the plate to be out of spec camber/caster instead of just camber.

The correct method is to buy coilovers for a GD and swap the front plates with GC fitment .

If I am mistaken please let me know

-Chuck


So you are saying that I would need to buy the 02-07 wrx coilovers and then swap the upper mounts for an older wrx on to the coils?

[86bratman]

Excuse my shitty crude drawing, it's all I have to work with where I'm at right now.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/04/1397954015027_zpsheazzvmw-1.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/blacksupraptype/media/ej22%20pistons/1397954015027_zpsheazzvmw.jpg.html)

by removing one side and putting it directly onto the other side you are rotating it 180, I've never ran coilovers personally, I'm repeating I read a while back on another site. Guy had pictures of gd coils on a bd with proper camber adjustments.

[fogls]

So I am looking at buying either the Rokkor or Raceland coils. Neither have camber adjustment on the rears. So that means I just have to unbolt the front mounts and swap them L to R correct?

[chuckthefuk]

Posting info that you have never attempted and "read" from another write up is so dangerous these days.. People will take what you post to heart..

I ask again how would this work

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/04/0804001259-1.jpg
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/04/0804001258-1.jpg

Considering that 100000's of Legacy owners have asked this question with the same answer "swap to GC plate"


Excuse my shitty crude drawing, it's all I have to work with where I'm at right now.

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/04/1397954015027_zpsheazzvmw-1.jpg (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/blacksupraptype/media/ej22%20pistons/1397954015027_zpsheazzvmw.jpg.html)

by removing one side and putting it directly onto the other side you are rotating it 180, I've never ran coilovers personally, I'm repeating I read a while back on another site. Guy had pictures of gd coils on a bd with proper camber adjustments.

[fogls]

This is getting me nowhere. Too many different answers. It's not like I can order some coilovers for a gd and tell them to put gc upper mounts on them. I think I am more confused than when I started.

[chuckthefuk]

There is no confusion. You have the right info. Find your local BC Racing Supplier and they should be able to mix n match for you. Other wise bite the bullet like everyone else and buy GD coils and get GC front top hats if you want correct camber specs




This is getting me nowhere. Too many different answers. It's not like I can order some coilovers for a gd and tell them to put gc upper mounts on them. I think I am more confused than when I started.

[fogls]

Don't get me wrong I am greatly appreciative for the info. Truthfully I have learned a lot from this site in the short term I have been a member and got my car. I just want to be sure before I let go of the money. This is just my daily driver so I don't want to drop the cash for the BC coils. I am just looking for something to make the car my fun and enjoyable to drive, not track it. Are the strut bars the same between the WRX and the Legacy?

[chuckthefuk]

Please keep your questions related to this thread. The info you seek has been answered over and over again. Browse SLi and enjoy the knowledge you will gain. With regards to Cheap Fun.. this will require locating used items.. good luck .
-Chuck

[Tektic]

Ok been searching and believe this to fit but need to know before I waste money.

My car. 1995 BK WRX 205/55/16
2006 wrx SEDAN STRUT ASSEMBLY w/ mach v springs.

What camber issues will I need to address?

Thank you.

[chuckthefuk]

It will work. U need camber bolts front amd rear.

[Tektic]

I just read that the stock springs on the BK wagon are 190lbs
Stock wrx sedan is 116 isthat right?
and the mach 5 is 116-156...

That seems like a problem no?

Edit:
I did see a member here used wrx full swap front but legacy coils and tops on wrx struts in the rear. This was on an BG outback and I'm assuming it had body lift still because it looks higher than my car now. However I'd like to see if anyone has tried this on their bk. The mach V lowering springs are out of the question.

Is there benefit to the wrx struts over the legacy struts?

[hfxx]

I keep confusing myself the more pages I decide to go through. Not looking to do too many conversions, looking for a temp set up until I can get what I'd prefer for long term, does anyone know if any of these Raceland's would fit on a BL (2007) 2.5i? http://www.racelandus.com/coilovers/sub ... -kits.html (http://www.racelandus.com/coilovers/subaru-coilover-kits.html) any info is much appreciated!

[chuckthefuk]

Sorry no racelands at the time will work . You have multi link in the rear .

[hfxx]

Sorry no racelands at the time will work . You have multi link in the rear .

Thanks man!

[teeceRS]

has anyone figured out if the multi-link set up for the 08+ wrx fit the bh's yet?

[Specv118]

So what I get out of this thread is I want wrx wagon rear struts & springs to avoid the saggy butt issue? Only real question I have .. this is for a bg as well

[Sambo]

Anyone know about forester struts on an outback? trying to go up alittle bit... been low now gotta get high.

i cant seem to find anything on here about forester to leggy swaps

[95USsubaru]

okay ive been wondering this for a while and idk if its on the boards, not to sure.

I have an 05 Leggo sedan. trying to raise it. really want to put it on forrester springs to give it a little bit of a lift. not looking for anything crazy. what I really want to have is pretty much the same set up as the old SUS suspension system they had for the legacys. but really im CLUELESS as to what is the best, most cost effective way to get this done. I read before that if I just get the forrester springs, id be good for a 2" lift but I cant remember if that was for my old BD or this one. so please... HALP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[95USsubaru]

okay ive been wondering this for a while and idk if its on the boards, not to sure.

I have an 05 Leggo sedan. trying to raise it. really want to put it on forrester springs to give it a little bit of a lift. not looking for anything crazy. what I really want to have is pretty much the same set up as the old SUS suspension system they had for the legacys. but really im CLUELESS as to what is the best, most cost effective way to get this done. I read before that if I just get the forrester springs, id be good for a 2" lift but I cant remember if that was for my old BD or this one. so please... HALP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow, im a lazy piece of crap lol. literally just found about 10 threads that gave all the info.

[Dopefish]

Reviving this old thread. It may be more relevant soon as some of these cars are able to be imported into the US now. For example, I now own a RHD JDM 1996 Subaru Legacy GT-B wagon in mint condition. The main problem I had with it was that the right-rear strut was seized. The struts are still available to buy new but they're almost $600 ea. before shipping from Japan. I wanted to maintain as close to factory comfort as possible so here's what worked for me.

Struts: KYB EXCEL-G/GR-2 2004-2007 **WAGON ONLY**
Springs: King Springs 2004-2007 Impreza Standard Height

This maintained the correct height of the rear with no sag and no spacers needed. I went from yellow struts with black springs to black struts with yellow springs.

Aside from the struts and springs I used OEM parts for the rest.

20320AA113 STRUT MOUNT F
20321AA201 HELPER F PAI22
20322AE01A DUST COVER F
20323FA000 SPRING SEAT UP
20325FA000 RUBBER SEAT UP
20326AA000 SPACER STRUT F
20326AA120 DUST SEAL STRU
20327AC000 CAP
20371AA041 HELPER R PAI22
20372FE010 DUST COVER R S
20375FC001 RUBBER SEAT R
20390FE010 MOUNT STRUT R

So basically an entirely fresh, new setup for each corner. Did an alignment afterwards. Maxed out the front camber adjustment so some more adjustable bolts may be necessary. It's not too far out though. Since we don't have any of these cars in the US I used the specs for a 98-99 USDM Legacy GT Wagon.


Target specs (left side listed only, just swap it for the right side)

Front
Camber: 0.4 to -0.6
Caster: 4.1 to 2.1
Toe: -0.17 to 0.17

Total Toe: -0.33 to 0.33
Steer Ahead: -0.05 to 0.05

Rear
Camber: -0.2 to -1.7
Toe: -0.17 to 0.17

Total Toe: -0.33 to 0.33
Thrust Angle: -0.33 to 0.33


Measurements before alignment

Front Left
Camber: -1.3
Caster: 2.6
Toe: -0.23

Front Right
Camber: -1.4
Caster: 2.8
Toe: -0.38

Total Toe: -0.61
Steer Ahead: 0.07

Rear Left
Camber: -0.4
Toe: 0.23

Rear Right
Camber: -0.3
Toe: -0.18

Total Toe: 0.05
Thrust Angle: 0.21


Measurements after alignment

Front Left
Camber: -1.0
Caster: 2.6
Toe: 0.03

Front Right
Camber: -0.8
Caster: 2.8
Toe: -0.02

Total Toe: 0.01
Steer Ahead: 0.03

Rear Left
Camber: -0.4
Toe: -0.03

Rear Right
Camber: -0.4
Toe: -0.01

Total Toe: -0.02
Thrust Angle: -0.02