New guy! what up. 96 brighton ej22e rebuild help.

[parkcityboyx]

hey guys!

ive checked out alot of the forum and fell in love with it. not new to subaru forums but new to this one. thanks for the opportunity to be here, it seems like this is the place to be.

i am the owner of a 1996 legacy wagon brighton. im loving it even more because i get to rebuild its ej22e! :smt005

bittersweet...

the connecting rod pins are the problem(or wrist pins) ive pulled the engine already, ive done research and some engine teardown with my buddy who has a shop to find the problem. a simple rebuild to get it back to perfect working order, but i have driven one or two of these cars prior to owning this one and with the definite rebuild happenening.. i really want and need to know what i can do while i rebuild the engine to increase the horsepower. i have about $2000 to put into the engine(rebuild labor will be free). increase piston size along with heads??... or put a small turbo in(if there is one that the ej22e can handle)??... i really dont know guys!!...

i need a good increase or i know im not going to be happy with this car. i know theres intake and exhaust options i can do... but im rebuilding an engine and i figured while im at it, ill start increasing the power from the ground up. so pleeeaaasssee give me as much knowledge and advice as you can, i dont care if your a complete dick to me cause im being an idiot in some way. make it known to me!!! im ready to learn about this car, and i love its look, i just want to love its horsepower as well. bc its stock roughly 140hp isnt cutting it. thank you guys, i look forward to many years on this forum.

parkcityboyx.

[jey]

If you want more power drop the EJ22 altogether - find an EJ25 and rebuild it instead, it'll bolt right up to your heads. Get some good gaskets to increase your compression ratio, swap the sensors over from the EJ22. With a $2k budget you should be able to do all this right - new timing belt, water pump/gaskets, do the clutch while everything is out, lightweight flywheel. Spend a little on engine management (can be as simple as an S-AFC) and you should have yourself a strong NA motor.

You can also go turbo but it might stretch that $2k budget - if you have dual-port heads you might be able to make it work. The key is to securing the turbo bits for cheap, and it's possible if you stay with stock WRX stuff. TD04 turbo, TMIC, uppipe/exhaust, etc.

[parkcityboyx]

so are you saying the ej22e can be turbocharged or that i should turbo the ej25 if i have the $?

thanks for the info and help so far.. i have a feeling this is going to be a process and i really appreciate all the help you can give.

parkcityboyx.

[gryffinwings]

so are you saying the ej22e can be turbocharged or that i should turbo the ej25 if i have the $?

thanks for the info and help so far.. i have a feeling this is going to be a process and i really appreciate all the help you can give.

parkcityboyx.

Personally I'd turbo your engine, just make sure your engine is in good working order, your going to need to make custom piping for it to work though, turbos you can get cheap either a used one or get a TD-04. Add some engine management and your good, shouldn't be too hard since yours is an older model.

[parkcityboyx]

ya i was thinking about that for sure. thanks, and i think that could be what i want. i just want to be sure that its going to work with the ej22e.

does anyone else have anything to say about the turbo? im only worried about the ej22e not being able to handle forced induction.

what do you think jey?

keep telling me as much as you can guys i really want to do this right and be confident and happy with it. thanks.

pakcityboyx.

[parkcityboyx]

what -ALL- parts would i need as i rebuild my ej22e to prepare it to take the turbo? ive never put a turbo into a car, i can have it done easily, i just need to know the parts and preparation exactly needed for the ej22 engine. be frank with me please.

parkcityboyx.

[gryffinwings]

what -ALL- parts would i need as i rebuild my ej22e to prepare it to take the turbo? ive never put a turbo into a car, i can have it done easily, i just need to know the parts and preparation exactly needed for the ej22 engine. be frank with me please.

parkcityboyx.

I could name some of the parts:

-Turbo
-Top Mount Intercooler from certain years of WRX or STi
-Custom Up and Downpipe
-Bypass Valve or Blow Off Valve
-Cometic head Gasket
-High Performance radiator
-Hi-flow oil pump**
-Oil Cooler**
-Ignition timing controller
-Air/Fuel Controller


**optional but recommended for reliability

Do you know what your stock compression ratio is on the EJ22E, that would be helpful to know how far to take boost up.

[Huffer]

For $2k? Maybe. But then you're looking at EM and wiring.

I would dump the EJ22E, get an EJ25 for cheap, rebuild it and install some street cams.
Warrior has a nice set of reconditioned EJ25 DOHC heads for sale too if you didn't want to do cams.

[jey]

does anyone else have anything to say about the turbo? im only worried about the ej22e not being able to handle forced induction.


I did not even gamble and try to turbo the EJ22. I swapped the whole shortblock out for an EJ257 from an STi. Not too expensive either, and I feel like that is doing it the "right way" since I now have a low-compression motor that was designed by Subaru for a turbo OEM application.

That is not to say there aren't people out there that have turboed a bone stock EJ22e and not instantly blown everything up. But I think it requires a bit more precision/investment/knowledge on the engine management side of things.

In contrast, my current turbo setup has run on my STOCK ECU for almost 60k miles now, starts and runs every time.

[parkcityboyx]

alright so im having some mixed ideas.. is it safe to say that it is very likely that the ej22e isnt going to be able to handle the turbo? would it be too expensive. i mean i like the idea of you know having that power with the turbo and i believe i have the resources and easy possibilities of making it happen, i just need to way my options which you guys have helped a bit. i just want to be sure.

i also tried to find a used ej25 and the cheapest i could find used was around 700 not including shipping, does anyone know maybe where to find one somewhere else?

thanks for all the help guys i appreciate it.

parkcityboyx.

[parkcityboyx]

I swapped the whole shortblock out for an EJ257 from an STi. Not too expensive either,



where did you find the ej25? any help on where i could get a hold of one right now?

parkcityboyx.

tigerjapense.com
risingsunengines.com
ebay

[gryffinwings]

Swapping a different engine isn't all that easy, well the installation might be, but the main problem is electrical, your looking at needing the proper ECU, wiring harness, merging harnesses, not very easy.

It would be easier to set up a low boost turbo setup, and a lot cheaper as well, depending on how you went about it, say no more than 8 PSI, but 6 psi would be safer. The only thing you have to worry about with turbo is custom fabrication of piping, make sure your engine is in very healthy condition, new piston rings, reseal the engine properly, and it will hold boost fine. With proper turbo and intercooling then your looking at making more power then the EJ22T motor, mainly because of the turning possibilities and intercooling, it makes a bit more since. The only problem you should have is finding the proper engine management and wiring that in.

[Huffer]

^^ and THATS going to cost a lot more than $2k.

There's only one person's advice in this thread that I'd trust so far, and that's jey. He's done it the right way.

[gryffinwings]

^^ and THATS going to cost a lot more than $2k.

There's only one person's advice in this thread that I'd trust so far, and that's jey. He's done it the right way.

Actually you will be very surprised to find that doing a DIY turbo setup can cost around 1500 dollars if you look around, check out some threads over at rs25.com there are some people that have done it already. I've looked into it myself and that's how much it'd cost for parts. So right now he has 2k to play around with, use that to refresh the motor and save money while collecting parts, easy enough to do to get everything. Here's a link to the thread from a guy that did for under 2k, it's all in where you look and doing a lot of the work yourself, it can be done:
http://www.rs25.com/forums/f7/t52607-how-turbo-your-car-under-2k.html

[Huffer]

Refreshing the engine PLUS adding the parts will cost at least $2k. Been there, done that, moved on. Whenever you plan a build, you need to budget at least 15% more just because crap happens.

[gryffinwings]

Refreshing the engine PLUS adding the parts will cost at least $2k. Been there, done that, moved on. Whenever you plan a build, you need to budget at least 15% more just because crap happens.

I'll give you that, but if he plans on doing this, it will take 2-3 months to gather parts, which by then he'll probably have more money anyways. I say refresh and turbo the EJ22E, because of less hassle then swapping in a different engine.

[Huffer]

Thing is, if it's going to take weeks to assemble all the parts, he could just buy a front clip from a wrecked WRX, drop the entire contents in and have it wired in the same amount of time, AND have an engine that is boost-friendly. A stock EJ22 from an NA chassis is NOT boost friendly.

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I was going to buy a ej22E for the sole point of turboing it without causing issues with the current engine in the car (it has no issues) that case if I blow the turbo I can always go back..

I'm not looking to make a world record power levels I was thinking about going as small as the stock turbo on the first gen Legacies.. they spool up around 2200 or 2500 but they fall flat fast..

Anyways this guy had a block for $100 I don't know for sure if it was just the short block or the long block.. I was in no rush to build it if I took my time it might take me almost 1 year and a half.

Right now I put the project on hold..

[gryffinwings]

Thing is, if it's going to take weeks to assemble all the parts, he could just buy a front clip from a wrecked WRX, drop the entire contents in and have it wired in the same amount of time, AND have an engine that is boost-friendly. A stock EJ22 from an NA chassis is NOT boost friendly.

Neither is the NA EJ25s but people do it all the time, it's called low boost, not everyone is after high horsepower, just a bit more and it's would be just fine doing that to the EJ22E, unless there is something seriously wrong with the engine.

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Thing is, if it's going to take weeks to assemble all the parts, he could just buy a front clip from a wrecked WRX, drop the entire contents in and have it wired in the same amount of time, AND have an engine that is boost-friendly. A stock EJ22 from an NA chassis is NOT boost friendly.

Neither is the NA EJ25s but people do it all the time, it's called low boost, not everyone is after high horsepower, just a bit more and it's would be just fine doing that to the EJ22E, unless there is something seriously wrong with the engine.


yeah not everyone wants to run 22 Bar <-- lmao but yeah

[parkcityboyx]

so if i was to have around $2500 and able to do all the things that i need to have the ej22 in perfect shape for boost than should i do it? i got a hold of a few more bucks as you guys see, its just all about finding the parts. i need to freaking find a td04? or what other turbos? where can i find them?

parkcityboyx.

[parkcityboyx]

i did research and found a couple but not many tdo4's, with over 50k miles. sketch? idk. any place to find them more plentiful?

im doing this bc i really want to know pricing of both projects, and i want to know more bc im still deciding between the two.

thank you guys.

parkcityboyx.

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I always thought used td04's were overpriced but thats just me

[gryffinwings]

Check the nasioc.com classifieds, you find people over there selling turbos and intercoolers all the time.

For WRX intercoolers, I see around 50 dollars, get a turbo used and rebuild it is my suggestion, you could probably get a IHI VF** turbo for a good price used. You can get all kinds of turbo crap over there.

[Huffer]

ej22 in perfect shape for boost

There's the failing point right there. The EJ22 puts out 135-140hp in stock form. Running 6psi on this engine which is already running a relatively high compression ratio is going to ask for something to break, and quickly.

As for boosting an EJ25 - at least with the additional cylinder volume you're getting some low down torque that the EJ22 is missing because it's a smaller displacement.

I'm done with this thread - you're obviously going to throw your money at a less than boost friendly engine, so have at it.

[gryffinwings]

ej22 in perfect shape for boost

There's the failing point right there. The EJ22 puts out 135-140hp in stock form. Running 6psi on this engine which is already running a relatively high compression ratio is going to ask for something to break, and quickly.

As for boosting an EJ25 - at least with the additional cylinder volume you're getting some low down torque that the EJ22 is missing because it's a smaller displacement.

I'm done with this thread - you're obviously going to throw your money at a less than boost friendly engine, so have at it.

It's like you'd be telling the same thing to the guys that turbo EJ18s, they are a niche, same thing for the EJ22. There's nothing wrong in turbo charging the EJ22E. Also it's like you just dissed all the EJ20G, EJ20K, and EJ205/7, and they have less displacement. Just because it's goe .3 liters less displacement doesn't mean it's an inferior motor. There are advantages of keeping stock motor, mainly that is price and easier to tune then a newer motor and that fact has been prove.

[Huffer]

You're TOTALLY missing the point. The 2.0L engines that are made for boost are already set up for a lower compression ratio, which is boost friendly. A normal NA engine in a Subbie isn't. The vast majority of owners that boost their NA engines eventually either blow it up, or swap in low-comp pistons/new shortblock. That's not included in any of your budgeted numbers.

Even YOUR EJ25 in your Outback isn't boost friendly with it's 10.1:1 compression ratio, even with the extra cylinder volume.

And yes, I would be telling the same thing to guys trying to turbo their EJ18s.

My rule is - don't mod what you can buy stock. If you can buy a complete setup that is ready to go - it is far more reliable and useful and cheaper in the long run than sinking a small fortune just to be "unique". A boosted pre-2005 Legacy in the US is already fairly rare in the grand scheme of things.

[parkcityboyx]

I'm done with this thread - you're obviously going to throw your money at a less than boost friendly engine, so have at it.

i dont understand this attitude huffer, i was just trying to figure out the exact cost of each project. isnt it right to do ALL the research yourself before you make YOUR own decision? and even before you wrote this post i had bid on a ej25 on ebay so dont get all huffy when you dont need to. ive appreciated all the advice that you and jey have given me, as well as the "go turbo" guy, and to be quite frank i was going to do what jey said from the beggining. i just wanted to weigh all the options.

thank you.

parkcityboyx.

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I think Huffer means well it's just how it comes across over the internets..

[parkcityboyx]

yeah im sure it is. i just didnt understand at the time. thanks man.

pcboyx.

[Okin DaVanh]

It seems as if some of your "homework" has been done already by Huff. I own a BK w/ an EJ22 and was thinking the same thing at 1 point. I found that a low boost scenario would work best, but would balance out to be the same amount of torque and horsepower (but more $) than an EJ25 with bolt ons. 6psi is what was suggested to me, as the max before disastrous consequences begin to occur faster then what would eventually happen with the 6psi even.


If you'd like to go boost on a lower liter motor, my suggestion would be to start with finding the proper block and heads (used w/Closed deck ) and work your way out from there.

[96legwag]

Wouldn't it make sense, if you wanted something a little unique, to just pick up one of the 2.0 liter turbos that are listed on ebay all the time? One went for 950 last month, if you have 2000 to spend and labor is free like you said, this seems logical. There was a twin turbo for 1150 a couple of months ago so if you got that and sold your motor, you could pick up the necessary parts to beef up the Brighton to handle the new motor. It seems like you aren't in a hurry. so it might be worth looking into it.

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Wouldn't it make sense, if you wanted something a little unique, to just pick up one of the 2.0 liter turbos that are listed on ebay all the time? One went for 950 last month, if you have 2000 to spend and labor is free like you said, this seems logical. There was a twin turbo for 1150 a couple of months ago so if you got that and sold your motor, you could pick up the necessary parts to beef up the Brighton to handle the new motor. It seems like you aren't in a hurry. so it might be worth looking into it.


2.0L turbo JDM? it seems like the JDM turbo engines are cheaper.. If I ever had to deal with engines and ebay I'd go with a JDM twin turbo and convert it into a single however the JDM engines did not go OBDII until like like 97 or something odd.. I don't think CT checks that other then getting in the car and see if your CEL is on they just do the sniffing test.

I failed once just because of a bad gas cap.

[parkcityboyx]

ya, alright. all good things im going to look into.

i have an option come my way today!!! i just need to know if its going to work...

i have a guy just south of me that has a 03 wrx engine, ej25 i believe, that needs to be completely rebuilt, for $650. the only thing is that i dont know if it will go with my tranny on the 96 ej22 brighton.

anyone know if they would line up?? this might be it. thank you guys for all the help.

pcboyx.

[parkcityboyx]

Alright so I found out that this 03 wrx sti ej25 engine has the same box housing as my ej22 tranny. Can anyone confirm that?

Would this be the best choice? I mean it's $650 for the whole package, and then the whole rebuild I think I can handle it with a 2500 budget.

Thanks

Pcboyx.

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Alright so I found out that this 03 wrx sti ej25 engine has the same box housing as my ej22 tranny. Can anyone confirm that?

Would this be the best choice? I mean it's $650 for the whole package, and then the whole rebuild I think I can handle it with a 2500 budget.

Thanks

Pcboyx.what do you mean box housing? all EJ engines will bolt right up

[parkcityboyx]

I don't know, the guy I'm buying it from said that to me :smt021 .

So work? Should I go for it? I'll still have around 1900 to rebuild and everything.

Pcboyx.

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I don't know, the guy I'm buying it from said that to me :smt021 .

So work? Should I go for it? I'll still have around 1900 to rebuild and everything.

Pcboyx. he means bell housing and they all fit like I said

[gryffinwings]

I don't know, the guy I'm buying it from said that to me :smt021 .

So work? Should I go for it? I'll still have around 1900 to rebuild and everything.

Pcboyx. he means bell housing and they all fit like I said

Shouldn't be a problem, although I have seen a weird case once, but this shouldn't be an issue. Oh yeah there is one issue, the Crossmember is going to need that all important notch and maybe a swaybar swap to accomodate it, this isn't just a weekend job to install this engine. Anyways good luck with the install, get your wiring diagrams in order, your going to need them.

[parkcityboyx]

now i just need to figure out the exact wiring harness im going to need and how im going to do it. i want me doing all the manual labor of the wiring but i will need to order whatever parts i need.

pcboyx.

[gryffinwings]

now i just need to figure out the exact wiring harness im going to need and how im going to do it. i want me doing all the manual labor of the wiring but i will need to order whatever parts i need.

pcboyx.

Having the harness and ecu that goes with the engine will definitely help, so basically you need to know exactly which engine you have, so it came from an 03 WRX STi, time to start looking for the harness and ecu for that, good luck, you said it came with everything right?

Also I would look into getting a spare tranny, your going to have a lot of power and I'm not sure your stock tranny can handle it, getting a 5 speed WRX or STi tranny would be best if you can find one in good condition, japan had some 5MT WRX and STi trannsmissions that would work well if I'm not mistaken. Check rs25.com and nasioc for threads on what else you will need.

[Huffer]

If you'd like to go boost on a lower liter motor, my suggestion would be to start with finding the proper block and heads (used w/Closed deck ) and work your way out from there.

Yep, a closed deck EJ22 is the only EJ22 I'd want to boost. For that cylinder size, and with the right pistons you could run 18psi all day long. It'd be a monster.

[gryffinwings]

If you'd like to go boost on a lower liter motor, my suggestion would be to start with finding the proper block and heads (used w/Closed deck ) and work your way out from there.

Yep, a closed deck EJ22 is the only EJ22 I'd want to boost. For that cylinder size, and with the right pistons you could run 18psi all day long. It'd be a monster.

Well you'd certainly have to build it differently, because of the lower cooling characteristics that it has. It's strong to hold boost, but you have to have a good cooling for it, like more oil cooling, would probably get you on the right start for higher boost apps. At least that's what I hear on the cooling problems of the EJ22T.

[Huffer]

Any engine that you put under more strain requires more care - additional cooling isn't required so long as your radiator and coolant system are functioning correctly.

a) cheap
b) reliable
c) fast

pick two.

[gryffinwings]

Any engine that you put under more strain requires more care - additional cooling isn't required so long as your radiator and coolant system are functioning correctly.

a) cheap
b) reliable
c) fast

pick two.

I've hear that more than once, for me it's usually cheap and reliable, and the speed out of it isn't the most but it works for me.

But what I was referring to, was that I've heard that the EJ22T is not a good motor for high boost apps because it will overheat more easily then say the newer STi motors or WRX motors that matter. Correct me if I've heard wrong.

[Okin DaVanh]

Any engine that you put under more strain requires more care - additional cooling isn't required so long as your radiator and coolant system are functioning correctly.

a) cheap
b) reliable
c) fast

pick two.

:shock: Uh oh!!! You made him bring out teh list!

Dammit!! I can never get all 3!! :smt021 :lol:



As for the cooling issue: Koyo radiators have been shown to be a good radiator to approach this possibility. Also getting a good thermostat and Heat wrapping certain parts to reduce engine bay heat. Maybe an Outback/GT hood for scooped air too.

[Huffer]

But what I was referring to, was that I've heard that the EJ22T is not a good motor for high boost apps because it will overheat more easily then say the newer STi motors or WRX motors that matter. Correct me if I've heard wrong.

1. the "EJ22T" that you refer to is a 10 year+ old motor/block design.
2. the STI/WRX motors as, as you say, newer.

Which is going to have the better cooling capability designed into the block? Also - you never once mentioned "high boost" in your suggestions for this guys build plan - we all know that a turbo'd stock EJ22 isn't going to withstand 16psi+ - which is exactly why I suggested going with an already boost friendly block.

[jey]

omg I step out for the weekend and this thing has turned into the classic EJ22T vs. EJ257 argument, which doesn't even look relavent to this person's situation.





I swapped the whole shortblock out for an EJ257 from an STi. Not too expensive either,

where did you find the ej25? any help on where i could get a hold of one right now?


Subaru dealership - $1350. I think the price is a bit higher now since they reflect increase in raw material costs lately.



I'll give you that, but if he plans on doing this, it will take 2-3 months to gather parts, which by then he'll probably have more money anyways. I say refresh and turbo the EJ22E, because of less hassle then swapping in a different engine.

My concern with this approach is that I don't know if an EJ22E is worthy of a refresh and turbo setup. The heads are very restrictive. I wonder if it would be better to find a used SOHC EJ25 - I found one with 80k miles for like $250. Freshening up an EJ25 costs the same as freshening up an EJ22, might as well do it to a better motor. If you use a SOHC motor you can swap all the sensors over and the wiring won't be complicated at all.

Or freshen up a turbo motor - seems like that's the path you chose through all this chaos in the end, which is a good choice as long as you can find a motor that fits your budget and you don't mind a bunch of wiring work.




I always thought used td04's were overpriced but thats just me

New they are a ripoff. But you can find WRX owners letting go of them for less than $60. Used, I don't care - at that price I can afford to blow through a turbo every 2-3 years. (Only gone through one so far in 50k miles)



It's like you'd be telling the same thing to the guys that turbo EJ18s, they are a niche, same thing for the EJ22. There's nothing wrong in turbo charging the EJ22E. Also it's like you just dissed all the EJ20G, EJ20K, and EJ205/7, and they have less displacement. Just because it's goe .3 liters less displacement doesn't mean it's an inferior motor. There are advantages of keeping stock motor, mainly that is price and easier to tune then a newer motor and that fact has been prove.

Most of the EJ18 builds I have seen on NASIOC are hybrid setups (usually EJ22T heads) - they are not using the EJ18 heads - I can't imagine those tiny restrictive heads being any good for any sort of power.

I don't know what you're trying to say about the tuning advantages of a stock motor - you have much more room for error in tuning a boosted low compression motor - that's why stock turbo motors have low compression, and why I'm still running on a stock ECU. If you try to run a boosted stock EJ22E on a stock ECU it will blow up.





Having the harness and ecu that goes with the engine will definitely help, so basically you need to know exactly which engine you have, so it came from an 03 WRX STi, time to start looking for the harness and ecu for that, good luck, you said it came with everything right?

Yeah double-check all those details because there was no STi in 2003 in the USA. 2003 WRX was 2.0L, STI came out in 2004. And yes you should use the ECU that goes with the motor.

[gryffinwings]

Having the harness and ecu that goes with the engine will definitely help, so basically you need to know exactly which engine you have, so it came from an 03 WRX STi, time to start looking for the harness and ecu for that, good luck, you said it came with everything right?

Yeah double-check all those details because there was no STi in 2003 in the USA. 2003 WRX was 2.0L, STI came out in 2004. And yes you should use the ECU that goes with the motor.

About this part, I was only going by what the guy said, since I really don't get into the technical parts of years that the STi was out in the US, but that's just me, just in case that was directed at me. Anyways he does need to check the details of the motor.

So you can get the EJ25 SOHC motor for 250 huh, that's pretty good, I haven't seen them that cheap, well except for mine, but I got it with tranny, 450 for the tranny and extra 50 bucks for the motor because it needed work, whatever that may be.

[jey]

Yeah double-check all those details because there was no STi in 2003 in the USA. 2003 WRX was 2.0L, STI came out in 2004. And yes you should use the ECU that goes with the motor.

About this part, I was only going by what the guy said, since I really don't get into the technical parts of years that the STi was out in the US, but that's just me, just in case that was directed at me. Anyways he does need to check the details of the motor.

So you can get the EJ25 SOHC motor for 250 huh, that's pretty good, I haven't seen them that cheap, well except for mine, but I got it with tranny, 450 for the tranny and extra 50 bucks for the motor because it needed work, whatever that may be.

Yeah I know you were going by what the OP said and it was directed at him, sorry.

There is no reason one should have to pay a lot for an NA EJ25 motor anymore - remember they came in all the Foresters too. Wrecked 2.5RS's are hard to find I know but these old Foresters are showing up pretty frequently even at our domestic-heavy pick and pull places around here.

[parkcityboyx]

well guys because of some unfortunate financial issues, im not going to be able to purchase and drop the 04 STI engine into my legacy. :smt009

everyone im sure knows how that can be...

becuase of a time shortage as well, i will be having to just stick with rebuilding my stock ej22e. :smt022 but i will be getting street cams as well as porting my heads, and headers. all this i have planned out to be done within the next two weeks FOR SURE.

thanks for all the help and advice. i will keep everyone updated on the progress and have pics and everything posted when project is finished.

pcboyx.

[jey]

I might sound like a broken record but look around and see if you can't find an EJ25 to rebuild instead. The EJ22 heads are not all that great and it may not make sense to spend all this money on fancy cams on an EJ22.

[parkcityboyx]

I might sound like a broken record but look around and see if you can't find an EJ25 to rebuild instead. The EJ22 heads are not all that great and it may not make sense to spend all this money on fancy cams on an EJ22.

no you dont sound like that at all! your just trying to help me out. and i definently am thankful for that.

i wish i had the time to seek one out, and i really want to. but the way things are going right now(and i really couldnt explain), i just have to stick with what i got. and the wheels have already started turning in the rebuild so.

but in the future i know ill be upgrading when i find some cash. no one around my parts know about subaru's, they especially think my legacy wagon is ridiculous. so i would love to show them whats with a forced induction motor, but i just have to except the reality that its not gonna happen right now. but all good things take time.


i was SO stoked.. yesterday i was searchin around at a salvage yard and i found a legacy LS i believe it was. and since the brighton does not have a tacometer with the speedometer(and the LS had the tac set up), i took that tac right up out of there for $20. im prayin it works, but it does look like my brighton has all the same wiring behind the speedometer and tac port, so i think i should be good.

does anyone know if a 1997 legacy GT bumper will fit on my 1996 brighton? would i need to change up the grill or headlights?
heres a pick of the front bumper i want to put on my brighton -
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/97legacygt-1.jpg

heres what i would want to put that bumper on -

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2009/07/96brighton-1.jpg

thanks

pcboyx.

[Huffer]

If you do grab that bumper, you'll want to make sure you get the bumper BEAM as well. JDMLegacy (Liz) grabbed my old bumper skin and we thought it would bolt on, but it doesn't unless you use the later model bumper beam. Get the grill too, if you want to GT-ify your Brighton. Headlights will fit with some wiring, but aren't necessary.

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wow a used Td04 for $60.. sure as hell can't be ebay... only reason why I wanted the first gen turbo was cost and quicker spool.

[Okin DaVanh]

??Jg09??.... is this you? :lol:


This post is confusing. I thought we were still on the EJ22 swap/rebuild/boost/supercharge/V10 Viper conversion. :smt023

[jey]

wow a used Td04 for $60.. sure as hell can't be ebay... only reason why I wanted the first gen turbo was cost and quicker spool.

Hit NASIOC or your local Subaru community. These turbos are heavy so shipping ends up costing a bit, but I just did a quick NASIOC search and there are people selling them for $100 shipped.

[parkcityboyx]

the whole decision from this entire thread is at my MR1 - viewtopic.php?f=6&t=15582 (https://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=15582)


thanks again for everyones help though, it really did help me with my decision lol