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Greenman
09-29-2009, 02:40 PM
I now own a 1998 Legacy GT. I just replaced my clutch slave cylinder. Now I have a chirping/sqeaking noise coming from the clutch fork/slave cylinder area. It only does when the clutch pedal is out and the car is idling(well that's when I can hear it). If I push slightly on the pedal is gets slightly louder then as I continue to apply pressure to the pedal it disappears. If I even push on the clutch fork with my hand under the hood the noise will stop. It doesn't take much. Also when I push the clutch pedal in there is a squeak noise. I know its not coming from pedal linkages. Its louder under the car or under the hood. Any suggestions? I'm trying to figure out if it is the throw out bearing or slave cylinder or something else. Thanks!

Bookem
09-29-2009, 02:54 PM
If it goes away when you press the clutch pedal in most likely a throw out bearing, (not the bearing on the flywheel).

green97gt
09-29-2009, 03:00 PM
If it goes away when you press the clutch pedal in most likely a throw out bearing, (the bearing on the flywheel).


i dont know anything about subaru manual tansmissions, but i thought the pilot bearing was the bearing in the flywheel, that the very end of the input shaft rides in...

and the throwout bearing is the bearing thats attached to the belleville spring tines ..hence when you push the clutch pedal down the clutch disengages and no longer spins at engine speed, and the chirp goes away.

Bookem
09-29-2009, 03:07 PM
If it goes away when you press the clutch pedal in most likely a throw out bearing, (the bearing on the flywheel).


i dont know anything about subaru manual tansmissions, but i thought the pilot bearing was the bearing in the flywheel, that the very end of the input shaft rides in...

and the throwout bearing is the bearing thats attached to the belleville spring tines ..hence when you push the clutch pedal down the clutch disengages and no longer spins at engine speed, and the chirp goes away.

You got me, one word missing froma sentence and it completely changes everything, damn you english language, damn you. Thanks for catching that, edited.

Greenman
09-29-2009, 10:43 PM
Thanks everyone. The clutch is still operating fine. Is it ok to drive with the throw out bearing whining? Will it eventually fail?

Thanks

green97gt
09-29-2009, 10:51 PM
it WILL eventually fail...look into buying and researching how to replace it, its kind of a pain in the ass, but while your in there you can tackle other subaru fail points, like the rear main seal and oil separator plate on the engine, and less notably the front shaft seal on the transmission. might as well get them while you're there.

odds are if you just have a little chirp now youve got a ways to go before you MUST replace it. on some of the manual trans work vehicles i have had that throwout bearing will SQUEEEL AND HOLLER all the time, but the car still drives fine...

look into what a throwout bearing is, and does and that will give you an idea of what that chirping sound you are hearing is.

Huffer
09-30-2009, 10:19 AM
The T/O (throw out) bearing can continue to operate just fine... but when you do go to fix it you should do at least:

1. 5MT trans snout kit - http://www.subaruwrxparts.com/shop/pc/v ... ategory=92 (http://www.subaruwrxparts.com/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1793&idcategory=92)
1a. Throw-out bearing - usually comes as part of #1 or a clutch replacement kit.
2. Clutch
3. Flywheel (inspect and replace if needed)
4. Rear main seal and oil separator plate (on backside of engine).

Optional: all tranny, diff and engine fluids + filters.

But the clutch chirping is definitely the throw-out bearing. I've lived with mine for 2 years like that. Tres annoying. But my clutch is up for replacement now too, so I'll get the whole thing done at once.

Greenman
09-30-2009, 05:49 PM
So I was working on my car today, and the chirping is driving me crazy. I removed the slave cylinder (took the bolts out) and started the car. Now there is no chirp. I used a screw driver to apply various amounts of pressure and move the fork around and for the life of me, I could not get a noise out of it. Is there any way that the noise could be coming from the slave cylinder itself? It did not start making this noise until after I replaced my slave cylinder. Tried lubricating the ends of the push rod, but that did not help.

Greenman
10-01-2009, 05:10 PM
Hahaha! I found it! So after working in the rain for two hours today (so I'm a little obsessed when my car isn't working properly) I found the noise. It was the Fork/ball pivot point. Just needed some lubrication. Although in investigating that, I ruined the dust boot (it was dried out and cracked anyway). Here's another question: A piece of rubber (1" X 0.25") fell down into the bell housing. Think this will affect the clutch disc at all? Thanks for all your help. I really appreciate it.

green97gt
10-01-2009, 05:21 PM
A piece of rubber (1" X 0.25") fell down into the bell housing. Think this will affect the clutch disc at all? Thanks for all your help. I really appreciate it.



yep...your gonna have to pull the motor or trans....

















no not really, it will most likely just lay on the bottom of the housing.

ilovemy96
10-01-2009, 10:12 PM
mine does the exact same thing. everyone says it's the T.O bearing, so, i need to replace it. it's been like this for about a year and a half.



however, after it rains hard for some time and then go ahead and drive the car the chirping goes completely away. then comes back, after driving around for a while. haha

maybe the rain lubricates something and then dries out after driving, and the noise comes back. lol


maybe it's the same as yours (Fork/ball pivot point) , and needs some lubrication. how do i get the Fork/ball pivot point lol. do i need to take the trans out lol.

i'm not mechanic savy lol

thanks

Greenman
10-01-2009, 10:46 PM
On mine, I unbolted the slave cylinder. Then I removed the rubber dust boot on the fork. By moving the fork back and forth you can see the ballstud upon which the fork pivots. I used a spray lithium grease. A can with a long thin red applicator. I sprayed it while pulling the fork towards the front of the vehicle. This way the grease penetrates a bit better. After that, no noise. Hope this helps.

ilovemy96
10-02-2009, 12:07 AM
freakin sweet, i'll give this a try this weekend and see if it works!!!

thanks! greenman

warrior
10-05-2009, 08:55 AM
holy jesus! This is awesome news.. cause I too thought it's my throw-out bearing and I just recently, like 2 months ago replaced my clutch/flywheel/bearings, etc!!

I'ma go do this and see if it goes away.. woohoo!!

THANKS!!

ilovemy96
10-07-2009, 01:06 AM
^^^
let us know if it works.!


i didn't have time this weekend to do it on mine. :(

Huffer
10-07-2009, 09:53 AM
If I had a transmission section I could move this topic there.

warrior
10-14-2009, 09:40 AM
Fail.. didn't work :(

green97gt
10-14-2009, 09:54 AM
If I had a transmission section I could move this topic there.



hint hint much?

the site could use a dedicated section to compile trans info....