JDM "Black Faced Meter" Project **pics & wirin

[fibuz]

Well, as some of you know, I picked up a JDM B4 "Black Faced Meter" aka gauge cluster.

As almost all of you know, locating Legacy specific information is hard, and JDM legacy information is even worse.

Luckily another member on NASIOC located some good information on the net regarding this unit in Japanese. After translating, comparing, testing, and straight out guessing, I've finally got it installed and fully functioning. Hurrah! :disco:

So, if any of you BE/BH guys run across this unit in your travels, pick it up, I've done the hard work and figured out how to get it to work!

The PDF describing what is required and a direct JDM->USDM pinout translated to english(along with many of my "guesses" to make stuff work) can be downloaded here: BE_BFM_Cluster_Diagram.pdf (http://home.comcast.net/~virtualize/BE_BFM_Cluster_Diagram.pdf) . I'd suggest downloading it if you're a BE/BH guy and keeping it around in case I disappear or something. It'll be well worth it if you need it.

And now for photo time(I also changed all the center console lights that I could to "amber" to better match the cluster) Sorry for the finger prints all over the thing..I'll clean it up one day:

http://img29.echo.cx/img29/9879/dsc014561uj.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img29.echo.cx/img29/3576/dsc014574um.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img29.echo.cx/img29/8646/dsc014595tq.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img29.echo.cx/img29/8651/dsc014600td.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img29.echo.cx/img29/8489/dsc014616ah.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img29.echo.cx/img29/7039/dsc014628bg.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img29.echo.cx/img29/9655/dsc014637or.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)
http://img29.echo.cx/img29/2130/dsc014666cl.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

fibuz :banana:

[shazapple]

Nice, Fibuz leading the way! Need to clean your gauge cluster plastic though :-D

[fibuz]

Nice, Fibuz leading the way! Need to clean your gauge cluster plastic though :-D

Thanks. I know I know...had just spent 5 hours sorting through about 30+16+18 wires trying to hunt down several issues that I had. Finally found them and it was about to get dark, so wanted to take a pic during the day for you guys before the sun went down!

fibuz

[Reason]

What did u do to get your AC panel red? I know the Maxima guy soder LED's in place of the bulbs. I want that to be my last resort.

[HFSDevil]

That is awesome and very clean looking. I know I wanted to do something with my gauges and all but I haven't found anything. Where did you get that cluster at? How much did it cost you? Anyway the kph can be converted to mph?

[fibuz]

Changing the HVAC lighting is not hard at all...remove the unit, take out 3 bulbs, tear off green bulb condom, paint with red model paint, reassemble.

The cluster was purchased in a once-in-a-lifetime situation, but similarly was not cheap. There are adapters to convern kph to mph, about $100 bucks...but after a week of driving with kph, its not that difficult to know common speeds in kph and their like mph.

fibuz

[Wiscon_Mark]

Don't you drive a stick? I remember seeing a pic of your car w/ the cardboard pioneer TV. If you do, does the auto gearshift indicator just stay on park or can you mess around with it (or disable it?)?
But I do like these guages. Kinda reminds me of our civic's guages.
I just ask these questions out of morbid curiosity...

[fibuz]

Yeah, this pictures with the PIONEER cardboard interrior were from ebay, of a previous gen legacy ;) I didn't have any good pictures of my interrior. But yeah, I don't have a 5MT...it was too difficult to find a Legacy in AZ, let alone a 5MT, and I was under pressure to get a car so I got the first Legacy I found.

Now, this isn't to say I can't or won't drive stick, its just the way things worked out.

But theorhetically you could not wire in the pins that show the position of the shift lever and nothing would light up there...its not really a big deal, 7 pins or so.

fibuz

[Wiscon_Mark]

I feel for ya man....auto is the devil, manual all the way. You could always do a conversion but that would be expensive...

[gator gt]

Oh SNAP! Fibuz, looks a lot better than the pics cause its in your car, eh?

Nice work!

GGT

[subieyacht]

that looks so good, o man :-D

[1-3-2-4]

They never made one without showing the auto gear selection?

also what is the -/+ on the cluster? Man I'd rather have this color in a BD Legacy.. Green sucks..

[legacyB4RSK]

Pics are not showing, I have one of those as well. Luckily for me in Canada we're in KPH.


Cheers

[d1giPhux]

Sick man! How does it look in daylight.. it still readable.. seeing from ur first pic.. looks hard! Like.. right now, with sunglasses on i can barely see mine in the day light! haha.

[oskar_subaru]

Sick man! How does it look in daylight.. it still readable.. seeing from ur first pic.. looks hard! Like.. right now, with sunglasses on i can barely see mine in the day light! haha. no problem... move here ! it´s dark now 21 hours a day :lol:

[1-3-2-4]

Sick man! How does it look in daylight.. it still readable.. seeing from ur first pic.. looks hard! Like.. right now, with sunglasses on i can barely see mine in the day light! haha. no problem... move here ! it´s dark now 21 hours a day :lol:

Until summer :P

[badbasser98]

Holy thread revival...

Fibuz no longer owns a Legacy, I wouldn't expect him to answer any of your questions unless he has email notification turned on. I haven't seen him around any of the Subie forums lately either. :-?

[1-3-2-4]

no one knows what the +/- is?

[Huffer]

no one knows what the +/- is?

The Blitzen B4 had tiptronic shifters, might be for that.

[badbasser98]

Its probably used to set the clock. My BE has a similar 'switch' that is used solely for setting the clock.

[1-3-2-4]

Ah ok

[fibuz]

Its probably used to set the clock. My BE has a similar 'switch' that is used solely for setting the clock.

bingo if I remember correctly

[Brockley]

what kind of cluster does a BK GT-B have?

is it similar tho this, or just the same crap?

[Mr. Sociable]

Wow that looks great!

[makipsee]

that cluster looks sweet... what r the chances of it working in a 95 legacy BK?

[1-3-2-4]

Is it possible you can relink the PDF file again? I too just brought this JDM cluster and would like to know how to wire it up.

[Darks RS]

If anyone has this,

Please please send this to me on dks51r@gmail.com

I've got the same issue here!!!


Is it possible you can relink the PDF file again? I too just brought this JDM cluster and would like to know how to wire it up.

[1-3-2-4]

I have the file let me find it..

and btw I never got the cluster because it was broken before they sent it to me so I was refunded my money which is good because it never would of fit anyways.

[be5_eric]

i have a PDF of Combination Meter(BE). Hopefully, this is the one you are looking for.
[/url]http://www.itechgsm.com/be5pdf/combination_meter.pdf
http://www.itechgsm.com/be5/be5_meter.jpg

i am having a JDM B4 "Black Faced Meter" too, please email me if you are interesting.
http://www.itechgsm.com/be5/mybe5.jpg

[Bohemian_Funk]

Wow guys way to revive the thread (kind of like I'm doing now) :lol:.

Well I'm interesting, but I don't need a BE gauge cluster.

[be5_eric]

hi, Bohemian_Funk
What do you need? maybe i could help you

[akcel]

does anyone have the file still? i just found this thread a couple years late and would like to do the mod to my newly acquired wagon :P

[fibuz]

does anyone have the file still? i just found this thread a couple years late and would like to do the mod to my newly acquired wagon :P

email me and I'll find it, fibuz@azawd.org

[be5_eric]

does anyone have the file still? i just found this thread a couple years late and would like to do the mod to my newly acquired wagon :P

r u looking for the PDF file?
pm meifyou need, i can send it to you

[pdawg]

I think I can dig up the PDF. PM me if no one else can locate one.

[Matty2Hotty]

I think I can dig up the PDF. PM me if no one else can locate one.

Bumping for a old thread... Anyone with any info? No links, sites or pictures work! Anyone with a File???

[anothernord]

Well done! I'm sure this will be useful for others down the road.

[fibuz]

rehosted here:

http://www.azawd.org/~fibuz/BE_BFM_Cluster_Diagram.pdf

[02_Legacy]

^^awesome thanks for the repost, maybe this will be of use for me one day. And also nice thread revival, this is an awesome mod.

[Matty2Hotty]

Thanks a bunch so far! I have a harness am about to make so my cluster is straight Plug&Play.
Example of pinout i was looking for more is like this...
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2010/10/1991CRXClusterPinoutsBigConnector-1.jpg

[fibuz]

IIRC, there are numbers on the green plugs, which match up with my pdf.

Also, there are several different revisions of the BFM for different year legacy's. I seem to recall there are at least 3 different ones floating around.

[ubar legacy]

I have one for sale if anyone is interested!

[Guig'z]

Redoing all of the wiring.

Fibuz, your PDF file, A is the big plus for both JDM and USDM? Is the pinout the same ( Aka C8 is at the same place for both? Or USDM are not at the same place?)

[BigWillieStyles]

Can you keep the cars' mileage record or do you have to change to what the 'new' speedo has?

[darryl]

It looks good man. nice job

[WESTcoast]

I want those gauges in my BD I wonder how hard it is to convert them over

[sansMYSTi]

I have one of these black face JDM clusters that I am never going to get around to installing/wiring. Anyone interested?

[makipsee]

how much?

[sansMYSTi]

Sorry for the slow reply - I am not on the site as much as I use to be. I don't have a price in mind, but PM me if interested and I can send some pics so we can discuss.