Yamazaki's '02 S401 / nothing new

[Neatfellen]

It more expensive keeping it here or was it about the same as in Japan? And as I'm sure ur fully aware of, its worth it haha. Would b nice if such nice things weren't so expensive though.. :/

[Yamazaki]

It more expensive keeping it here or was it about the same as in Japan? And as I'm sure ur fully aware of, its worth it haha. Would b nice if such nice things weren't so expensive though.. :/
It costs nothing to keep it here as long as I don't drive it. It isn't more expensive to register/insure it here than Japan, but I'm not willing to use personal funds to do that since I don't drive it much.

[Muse]

Do you have to tread in the grey areas of the law to register it or have all the legal hoops been jumped through that you could just head to DMV and get plates?

[Neatfellen]

Hmm ik what you mean. How long are you able to go without registering or insuring it? Not sure about in MD but in WI any vehicle u drive has to be insured and u get a hefty fine if pulled over without insurance on your car. Course that fine would prolly be cheaper than the insurance in ur case in sure lol

[Yamazaki]

Do you have to tread in the grey areas of the law to register it or have all the legal hoops been jumped through that you could just head to DMV and get plates?
It was imported legally (i.e - the US Govt recognizes it by it's actual VIN), so I don't need to do something like a VIN swap or anything. I think I need it to go through emissions or something, but past that it should be able to be registered. I've made some half-hearted attempts to find out what all the forms I need are, but again- I don't think I will register it any time soon. When I finally do want to do it, I will actually go get it all done.

Hmm ik what you mean. How long are you able to go without registering or insuring it? Not sure about in MD but in WI any vehicle u drive has to be insured and u get a hefty fine if pulled over without insurance on your car. Course that fine would prolly be cheaper than the insurance in ur case in sure lol
It's true, I would have to pay out if I got pulled over. It's just like any other unregistered/uninsured car here. That's another reason why I don't drive it.

[Neatfellen]

yeah I hadn't thought about it not being registered as well.. what a headache if you got pulled over... unless the cop understood how rare the car is and let you off because of it! haha :lol:

[Yamazaki]

So as a couple of you know, I've been wanting to buy a Tesla Model S. The problem is, I haven't learned out to crap out gold bricks and the price of the Tesla is kind of steep. Well, today I finally considered the thought of selling the S401 (and the Imprezaab) to finance a Tesla Model S.

Now, I am just contemplating selling. I haven't actually decided anything yet. But I'd like to know what people think I could get for it if I did decide to. I realize most people have never heard of the S401, much less care. The people that have heard about it generally don't have stacks of cash laying about. Be realistic in your estimates (or guesses really).

[amgarrety]

No. You said it yourself, when they make a Tesla that is limited to 400 units, then consider it. You've got a super rare car that has an owners club that includes Subaru rally champions, and the car itself is a trophy of Subaru's engineering excellence.

No. You'll regret it when Teslas become so affordable everyone and their brother has one.

[Yamazaki]

I know what I've said. But I've been using the S401 as a daily driver for a week now (don't ask), and as amazing and sublime as it is, it's age starts to show in some areas. It was never decked out in luxury (US cars get more in that department), but now a Kia has more amenities than the S401. I know it's rarity, I just wonder if that's enough of a reason to hold onto it. I very rarely drive it (unless I use it as a reserve car) and when I do, gas is pricey. I've owned an S401 for almost five years now. Just like the original owner did, it may be time for me to pass it on to somebody else. Hell, the original owner drove it less than 7,000 km in six years! I've driven it three times that. And I'd still have the H6 for when I want to scratch the modification itch.

But this is all moot. I haven't decided I'm selling anything yet. I just want to know what people think I could get if I did.

[amgarrety]

IF you sell it, at least choose carefully. I realize it isn't my decision, but the S401 is one of the biggest reasons I love the BE so much. Just riding in it made me appreciate my car so much more. I would hate to see it fall into the hands of someone who doesn't care about what it is.

As I said before, I'm horrible at pricing things, but with there only being 286 produced, and surely less than that left in existence, combined with the fact that it is nearly completely stock and the only S401 in America, and legally registered and all, I'd ask somewhere between $30,000-$40,000. Again, I'm horrible at pricing.

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

I wish I was loaded so I could afford to buy it. Please don't sell it Lexi.

[Muse]

I think there's only four people that would treat that car right in the US. And so far as I know, Renicki Thom and Robin don't have that kinda cash. So unless Jay Leno comes-a-calling, I'd hold onto it.

The Imprezaab though... It is, in some ways cooler than the S401, but it can be done again should you regret selling. Done better, in fact.

[chuckthefuk]

Ouch... i would say Bataru and myself should be on that list but we're just Canadians right ..

[amgarrety]

Maybe Thom, Rob, Robin, Chuck, Jon and I could all put our finances together and jointly take care of it. Out of my garage, of course.

Or Shane could buy it, and make it an asset of SL-i. My business schooling is kicking in now.

[Muse]

Okay, so there's more than I listed. But Leno's still the only one with a fat enough billfold to afford it. Probably.

[Thomistopheles]

Maybe Thom, Rob, Robin, Chuck, Jon and I could all put our finances together and jointly take care of it. Out of my garage, of course.

Or Shane could buy it, and make it an asset of SL-i. My business schooling is kicking in now.I've got $5 I can throw in. What part do I get? License plate bolts? A lug nut? :lol:

[ags18]

Sad to hear the mention of selling. :( Makes me far more sad than when another RHD Postal pops up on Craigslist and i cant throw down cash to go and get it!!! However, the view is far different on this side for us all. We are thinking with our emotions whereas yours are practical and big picture/long term.

I am however firmly on "Team Do Not Sell". Main reasons being: the exclusivity of this model, your own blood sweat and tears with importing and legalizing and it only appreciating in value with time. Even after the 25 year exemption rule brings them into legal status you still have its rare production #. I can't really think of a value but, you could look at the "market" (or lack their of) for the Impreza 22B's they are getting snatched up immediatley and going for big #'s! Also, how would title transfer go from you to the new owner? Would it ever legally be their car?

[Dead91silvia]

Yamazaki and I talked about it earlier today... I, like him, would LOVE a Tesla Model S, however I did say pretty much what Mike and the rest of you are saying.

I would be vary disappointed to see it go, but at the end of the day, it's just a car. A piece of machinery. As for what I think it's worth, Yama already knows what I think. It's really technical when it comes to this car. I would say with having plates and such, it's in the $50K range. I only say this because I feel it's more rare then a R34 GT-R and those cars go for even more. The only problem is the market. Everyone and there brother want a Skyline, but who really wants a Legacy? Only the ones who know what it is. So you need to sell someone on the fact that they want a Legacy over a Skyline or a Supra.

I would say this would be a case of who has the money to toss around. Jay Leno came up as a name and a local collector comes to mind as well. This would be a hard sell to the average collector. It's like me, would I pay crazy money for a low production number Ferrari? Hell no, but if it was a Toyota 2000GT I'm all over that. So it's more the market. We know how rare it is, we know the pedigree of this car. If there is anyone on this forum, other then Yama, that knows this car for it's physical and mechanical aspects its me. I have spent hours riding in it and even doing a little work to it. I know how well the factory tune is, even more so having a GT-B TT as a daily. The S401 is truly a special car, it's just selling others on it.

So my numbers? I say with valid plates, $50K, ballpark. I would love to give this car a spot in my shop, but it's not even an option for me. There is a reason I have 2nd gens.

[TGX4776]

Sad to hear. I've really enjoyed catching glimpses of it on 32 while I am working. $50k sounds reasonable considering. If you just want the model S because its electric and does it well wouldn't it be wiser to wait for the $35k model to be released? I heard that is only a few years away (2016/17) and maybe then you can keep the S401. Not to mention by then they may have extended the range even more.

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

I'm going to start to play the lottery. Only chance I have. lol

[dodik]

the only way that you'll get that 50k or even close to it is a raffle like $100 bucks a ticket and you only need 500 people to participate between sli, lgt, and nastycock im sure that number of people is possible to reach. Selling it to a collector is not going to happen as in there are really no legacy collectors out there. Another option is of course selling it to a dealership for display but finding dealership that wants it will be difficult.
In my honest opinion from a single person on any of these boards you won't get more than 20k for it as most people just don't know what it is.

[rkrenicki]

I know that you have been going back and forth on this idea, and I was really hoping that it would not happen.

But, I agree with just about everything said in this thread... It is worth quite a bit, but you will have a real hard time finding a buyer to pay what it is worth.

I know I have said it before, but perhaps SOA would be interested in buying it for their collection. You know that they will treat it right, and have the bankroll to pay for it.

[Dead91silvia]

the only way that you'll get that 50k or even close to it is a raffle like $100 bucks a ticket and you only need 500 people to participate between sli, lgt, and nastycock im sure that number of people is possible to reach. Selling it to a collector is not going to happen as in there are really no legacy collectors out there. Another option is of course selling it to a dealership for display but finding dealership that wants it will be difficult.
In my honest opinion from a single person on any of these boards you won't get more than 20k for it as most people just don't know what it is.

Thats not a bad idea, but that would still be pretty hard.

If he could only find people to buy it for $20K, I would sell off most of what I have and buy it myself. $20K gets you a clean USDM 04-05 STi. This is an even cleaner Legacy STi that is by far more unique, then any other Subaru. The car still has less then... what is it, 20K miles? You will pay over $20K for a Bspec GT.

[amgarrety]

I like the idea of selling it to SOA. I feel like they would value it correctly and put it in a museum or something.

Or... maybe they'll finally see what Japan has been up to, and will start producing such badass cars over here. I can dream.

[Neatfellen]

Maybe Thom, Rob, Robin, Chuck, Jon and I could all put our finances together and jointly take care of it. Out of my garage, of course.

Or Shane could buy it, and make it an asset of SL-i. My business schooling is kicking in now.I've got $5 I can throw in. What part do I get? License plate bolts? A lug nut? :lol:
me you and mark can purchase it and bring it to ol WI :) i would have no problem leaving it at ur place to be taken great care of and making the trip once in a while to come see it, course ur plans of moving to the NW would have to go out the window :P alas the problem is i could prolly only throw in as much as u... lets hope WisconMark can throw in more ;)

[geckoboy86]

I wonder if SOA would buy it. It would be awesome!

[ags18]

I don't think SOA would/will be the buyer of this. It's more on a global level. I see this car going back to Japan or to the UK to a private individual because of the RHD nature of it. Someday i want to be that collector here in the states with 8-10 rare RHD's!

Does Subaru (Fuji Heavy) have a private collection or museum?

[Yamazaki]

Holy crap, this received a lot more responses than I thought it would.... A guy at work suggested that I only ask a ridiculous amount of money for it (way more than I think I can get). That way if it doesn't sell, I still have it and if it does sell, I have a crapload of cash.

Like I said, I haven't decided on or made a move to do anything yet. I do plan to go test drive a Tesla next weekend.

[Muse]

The thing is, I'm afraid that if it did sell, there's a chance that it would go (perhaps not this sale, but one in the future) to some idiot who didn't know what it is, or wouldn't pay attention. Someone with more money than brains who would merely buy it for "JDM, yo!" and promptly drive it into the ground. I know Yama will try to be really careful, but... Shit happens. And I really would hate to see it happen to this car.

[Neatfellen]

^ +1 but im pretty sure Yama would only sell to someone who appreciates it and knew if they sold it they would do the same. I'm not to worried about that.

[chuckthefuk]

I doubt Yama will just hand over his car to anyone waving a check book.. owner integration is probably on the list.

[Dead91silvia]

Holy crap, this received a lot more responses than I thought it would.... A guy at work suggested that I only ask a ridiculous amount of money for it (way more than I think I can get). That way if it doesn't sell, I still have it and if it does sell, I have a crapload of cash.

Like I said, I haven't decided on or made a move to do anything yet. I do plan to go test drive a Tesla next weekend.

That I would agree with. I would sell my Volvo if someone said, "hey, I'll give you $20K for that Volvo!" If someone said "I'll give you $65K fr the Legacy" I dont think anyone in their right mind would not turn that down.

[ags18]

Yes, money talks and everything is ALWAYS for sale. There is/ always should be a number attached to every material object. If not, your silly or filthy wealthy. :P

Yama: On another note, wouldn't selling the SaabSTI yield a good chunk of the purchase price on the Tesla? Say... $20k down on $50k purchase price (just using round #'s) leaving $30k to finance over 3,4,5+ years at a good rate!? Do able?

[Yamazaki]

Yes, money talks and everything is ALWAYS for sale. There is/ always should be a number attached to every material object. If not, your silly or filthy wealthy. :P

Yama: On another note, wouldn't selling the SaabSTI yield a good chunk of the purchase price on the Tesla? Say... $20k down on $50k purchase price (just using round #'s) leaving $30k to finance over 3,4,5+ years at a good rate!? Do able?
$50K purchase price? Have you price checked a Model S? The lowest grade I would settle for is $79K before taxes/registration. I would be selling the Imprezaab in addition to the S401 if I did. I may sell the Imprezaab anyway since it's not a nice daily driver (mine stopped being friendly in '07 after all the work was done to it). The Imprezaab is much closer to the chopping block than the S401. I realize I can't get anything for the H6, that's why it isn't even being considered.

[Yamazaki]

My wife just said she thinks I would regret it if I sold the S401. But she said she feels like I will decide to sell it anyway. I don't back down when I decide I want something (S401 being a good example), and I've been really talking up the Tesla.

I still really don't know though. However, the more I think about it, the more sure I feel I may have to let the Imprezaab go though. I'm just not young enough anymore to enjoy it like I used to. I want sophistication and class now. Not brute, tear-your-face-off power.


...okay, that may be a load of crap. I'm always complaining about how slow the H6 is.


Damn, guys. I'm really confused right now.

[amgarrety]

Here is a super idea. You know that raffle you were going to do for the S401? 500 people pay $50? You know what they also might pay $50 for? The ImpreS(TI)aabaru. Run a raffle on that first. And just to protect yourself, don't start the raffle until you reach a preset number of contestants.

I like your STI, but if you need the money, that would be the car to get rid of because:

a) a lot of people know what it is
b) it is still unique
c) it is worth a good chunk of money
d) it is a bitch to drive and probably sucks gas
e) if you REALLY want it back, buy another STI and build it up again

And who knows, for the right Legacy enthusiast, the Blitzen6 might go for more than you would expect.

[nikolaus.conrad]

Just my $.02 but I would be kicking myself later if I sold it, I'm looking at this like the 22B, they're getting more and more rare and are reaching higher numbers. I plan to keep my spitfire for as long as I can and maybe I'll pass it down to my kids when I'm older, who knows? Lol I say hold onto it for now.

..if you did sell it, it could wind up in a Fast and Furious movie LOL

[Yamazaki]

So after driving the S401 as a daily for the past month, I am definitely not going to sell it. If I don't drive as if my ball hair is on fire, it uses about 45~50% of the gas the Impreza does. I also have had a better chance to calculate the fuel costs for the S401. It's about $6.50/gal compared to the Impreza's $4/gal. So I may decide to title/register the S401 afterall.
I plan to have the Impreza driving again soon though, so we'll see. The Impreza's days may be numbered. The S401's future is secure regardless of what I decide for the Impreza.

I'm coming up on 40,000kms on the S401 though. I don't like the thought of it going higher. My Impreza has just passed 40,000mi and I don't like that either. Damn these high milage cars.... :wink:

[rkrenicki]

If I don't drive as if my ball hair is on fire


Now.. there's a mental image for ya. :neutral:

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

I'm coming up on 40,000kms on the S401 though. I don't like the thought of it going higher. My Impreza has just passed 40,000mi and I don't like that either. Damn these high milage cars.... :wink:

.....ok?

[Neatfellen]

I'm coming up on 40,000kms on the S401 though. I don't like the thought of it going higher. My Impreza has just passed 40,000mi and I don't like that either. Damn these high milage cars.... :wink:
these high mileage cars??? pfft my legacy is at closing in on 140k MILES, not even kms, and I don't even consider that high mileage on a Subie, urs is but a wee lass yet! :lol: (can ya tell im Scottish?? :smt005 )

[chuckthefuk]

Thats not even timing belt worthy..

[Neatfellen]

What isn't timing belt worthy?

[chuckthefuk]

40K on the s401.. but i see where Yama is coming from.. hes from the land of JDM.. cars get tossed at 60,000km

This thread makes me sad.. I think Bataru would like to Import your S401 if your looking to keep it Show Room fresh

[Neatfellen]

40K on the s401.. but i see where Yama is coming from.. hes from the land of JDM.. cars get tossed at 60,000km

This thread makes me sad.. I think Bataru would like to Import your S401 if your looking to keep it Show Room fresh
Seriously? They get tossed that early there?!

[Dead91silvia]

40K on the s401.. but i see where Yama is coming from.. hes from the land of JDM.. cars get tossed at 60,000km

This thread makes me sad.. I think Bataru would like to Import your S401 if your looking to keep it Show Room fresh
Seriously? They get tossed that early there?!

My GT-B had 101K (kilometers) when it got to Canada. Had 113K when I got it. Thats like 69K in miles and thats on a 1996.

The S401 is a damn nice car! Every time I get to go for a ride, it feels like a new car, even with it being 11 years old. If Yama decides to sell, it will only be to a worthy person.

[Neatfellen]

My GT-B had 101K (kilometers) when it got to Canada. Had 113K when I got it. Thats like 69K in miles and thats on a 1996.

The S401 is a damn nice car! Every time I get to go for a ride, it feels like a new car, even with it being 11 years old. If Yama decides to sell, it will only be to a worthy person.
right right and he already decided not to btw.. Up above here ;). But dam I would prolly never get rid of a car that "new" (miles wise) unless I was rich and could easily buy a new toy every year or 2. I get to attached to my cars otherwise.

[Yamazaki]

Holy crap guys.... I was joking! (I thought that's what the winking smiley meant anyway...) I know my cars are low mileage and I love it!.



If I don't drive as if my ball hair is on fireNow.. there's a mental image for ya. :neutral:
Yeah, that's harder than you might think (the driving part, not the fire part). I can hear the primary turbo start to spool around 1500~1600 rpms. So I've started shifting around 1800~2000 rpms. The problem comes when I don't shift in time and it starts to pull. I like the acceleration so much that I just don't shift until both turbos are pulling and I'm flying. As you can imagine, that kind of interferes with good fuel economy....

Seriously though, I'm convinced this car was built with sorcery. I don't know how it can out-accelerate my Impreza (and my Impreza is not slow to begin with) while being considerably heavier and about 100~150 less HP. And how is the ride so smooth and supple (I can take speed bumps at speed and not really feel it), but turn in and twist around better than my Impreza? I thought they were both STIs.... Shouldn't they be similar? Damn Japanese witchcraft....

[Neatfellen]

lol and i was as well hence the :lol: face up there as well :P

oh and i think you mean AMAZING Japanese witchcraft! :lol:

[Yamazaki]

I'm lazy, so here's what I posted in my Impreza thread about the S401:
viewtopic.php?p=338469#p338469 (http://www.sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?p=338469#p338469)

[Yamazaki]

The recent weather here reminded me a little of what life was like in Japan. Here's the S401 a month after I bought it:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/01/DSCF0671-1.jpg

[Yamazaki]

Okay, so it isn't getting ready yet. But I ordered new tires and I'm going to buy gas this weekend.
The tires aren't anything special. I wasn't going to shell out for the Pirelli P Zero's that the car came from the factory with because of the recent Mercedes purchase, but they'll still outperform the current worn-down winter tires that are on now.

[amgarrety]

How are you getting the wheels off?

[Yamazaki]

How are you getting the wheels off?
I removed the annoying wheel locks a long time ago. It now has the STi lugnuts that used to be on the Impreza.

[Dead91silvia]

Anything you will need my help with when I arrive?

[Yamazaki]

Anything you will need my help with when I arrive?
Actually, because the sub-zero cold destroyed the strut on the Imprezaab's driver door, you'll be driving the S401 for the meet
..that is, if you're okay with that.

[amgarrety]

Or.... orrr..... since it's been awhile since since you've driven a 3rd gen Robin, and they are very difficult to drive (nearly uncontrollable), I'll lend you mine and I'll take the S401. I'd rather you crash mine if there were, say, some hazard in the road, such as ice or a 30' sinkhole. I don't mind taking the bullet for a good friend. :lol:

But really, that's a pretty cool trade-up :P

[Reuben]

Anything you will need my help with when I arrive?
Actually, because the sub-zero cold destroyed the strut on the Imprezaab's driver door, you'll be driving the S401 for the meet
..that is, if you're okay with that.





.... HAH!

You might have to twist his arm a little harder actually.

[Dead91silvia]

Anything you will need my help with when I arrive?
Actually, because the sub-zero cold destroyed the strut on the Imprezaab's driver door, you'll be driving the S401 for the meet
..that is, if you're okay with that.





.... HAH!

You might have to twist his arm a little harder actually.

Hmm... I could be of some assistance with this little problem. :smt023


Or.... orrr..... since it's been awhile since since you've driven a 3rd gen Robin, and they are very difficult to drive (nearly uncontrollable), I'll lend you mine and I'll take the S401. I'd rather you crash mine if there were, say, some hazard in the road, such as ice or a 30' sinkhole. I don't mind taking the bullet for a good friend. :lol:

But really, that's a pretty cool trade-up :P

HAHA! :smt005

I would have been able to last year, but I hadnt driven RHD at that time. After driving one almost everyday for about 8 or so months and 3 different cars (GT-B, EVOIII, GTiR), I have all the needed ability I feel I should have. :smile:


And Yamazaki, I'm honored to be trusted with your pride and joy and the greatest Legacy legend known as the S401. :occasion5:

[Muse]

You lucky bastid...

[thenines']

Just weld the doors shut and the two of you can put on your best impersonation of the "Dukes of Hazzard" and I'll be Daisy Duke.

[Yamazaki]

I told S401 that somebody suggested welding its doors shut and it cried. Even in jest, that's just mean...
:wink:

[Muse]

I think she means the Saabaru.

[Yamazaki]

I think she means the Saabaru.
Oh... :confused4:
Yeah, it makes sense now that you point it out. I didn't connect it to the earlier post made about the Impreza's doors. Oops.

[Yamazaki]

Today we showed that five guys in a car with low air doesn't make for happy tires.... So huge thanks to dead91silvia, rkrenicki, and muse for helping out with putting on new tires on the S401.
We also got to see the donut that fits Brembos!

I am sure some pictures will follow (but I don't have any).

[amgarrety]

I would absolutely love to see pictures of this.

Looks like someone found enough motivation to get the new tires on. And by motivation, I mean of course you had no choice.

[rkrenicki]

I have a few pictures.. I will put them up in the morning after I offload them.

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[rkrenicki]

Weight of 5 Guys + Low tire pressure + Very worn out tires= bad.
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o739/rkrenickisli/Car%20Meets/SLi%20Meet%20Mar%202014/IMG_3621_zpsa37e2b43.jpg http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o739/rkrenickisli/Car%20Meets/SLi%20Meet%20Mar%202014/IMG_3620_zps57fa1709.jpg

Dead91silvia did not just drive the S401 this weekend, he also took off the wheels!
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o739/rkrenickisli/Car%20Meets/SLi%20Meet%20Mar%202014/IMG_3606_zpse28f0f29.jpg

Quite possibly the largest spare tire I have ever seen. Designed to clear the Brembos:
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o739/rkrenickisli/Car%20Meets/SLi%20Meet%20Mar%202014/IMG_3608_zps2290674d.jpg

Luckily, Yamazaki had a whole set of new tires waiting at the house, so we went over to a Do-it-yourself auto facility and changed the tires. I don't really have any pictures of the actual tire changing, as we were all busy actually putting them on the rims.
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o739/rkrenickisli/Car%20Meets/SLi%20Meet%20Mar%202014/IMG_3610_zps9862b4ec.jpg

Coming soon to a Japanese Subaru dealer near you... the Hover S401.
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o739/rkrenickisli/Car%20Meets/SLi%20Meet%20Mar%202014/IMG_3611_zps6b9cdc9b.jpg


Prior to the tire incident, we were playing around with the ECU in the S401. After removing the knee bolster on the the car to connect up the test mode connectors, and connecting my computer to the S401, I tried to turn on the car. This was a slightly panic inducing moment for me as the car would not turn on... nobody had told me that the battery was disconnected. Again, Dead91silvia had the honors of actually working on the ECU itself...
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o739/rkrenickisli/Car%20Meets/SLi%20Meet%20Mar%202014/IMG_3601_zps191dc10d.jpg

[teeceRS]

Luckily, Yamazaki had a whole set of new tires waiting at the house, so we went over to a Do-it-yourself auto facility and changed the tires.

I'm sorry, did you say: diy auto facility?!?!?!?! Where the hell can I get me one of those!!

[rkrenicki]

Yes, it was an amazing resource. Looked to have about 36 or 48 bays of people working on their own cars. The guys next to us were replacing struts, and the ones across from us were welding in a roll cage.

I wish I had access to anything remotely like it up here.

[Yamazaki]

Well, it's not like it was free or anything.

Oh, and we found out part of the reason why the S401 wheels are so expensive.... weight, or rather, lack of it.

[amgarrety]

Any new info on the new ECU?

[Muse]

the ones across from us were welding in a roll cage.
It was really strange. this guy just comes up to me, "How tall are you?"
Turns out he needed someone about my height to check knee clearance for the roll cage.

[rkrenicki]

Any new info on the new ECU?

The ECUs were identical, confirmed with a ROM comparison.

[Muse]

I still have to say, the S401's black headliner is one of the coolest bits on the car, styling-wise. I'm not sure that I've ever seen that on any kind of car before...

[teeceRS]

I'd pay in a heart beat to have access to something like that though!!

[dewess]

Just noticed you have a different bumber compared to other S401. It looks like a Blitzen bumber? Was it a option when ordering?

[Yamazaki]

As far as I can tell, the earlier numbers got the regular sedan bumper and the later numbers got the same bumper as the Blitzen. Mine is the earliest that I've seen with the Blitzen bumper. The others that I saw were in the 200's. That's also why the S401 brochures and press releases have the regular sedan bumper. That car was 000/400.

[98legwag]

So someone on Facebook posted that this is 1 of 2 S401's in the US. I am 99% sure that is not true. Can anyone confirm or deny that another is here?

[rkrenicki]

I suppose it is possible there is one that nobody here knows about, but I find that extremely unlikely considering how rare it is and only an enthusiast who would bother bringing another one here... Someone either here, LGT, or even NASIOC would have posted something about it.

But, being that it was someone on Facebook that is claiming it.. I am 110% sure that they are either wildly misinformed, or making it up.

[Muse]

So someone on Facebook posted that this is 1 of 2 S401's in the US. I am 99% sure that is not true. Can anyone confirm or deny that another is here?
it WILL be 1 of 2, as soon as I get around to winning the lottery. :lol:

[amgarrety]

Yeah I find it highly unlikely that there is another. Not impossible, but you think with how difficult it is to get one in the US, I doubt someone would go through that effort and not be on a forum somewhere.

[Yamazaki]

I made the mistake of parking in the Subaru dealer lot when I went to go look at Audi's (next door) with a coworker. It started to draw a crowd of Subaru technicians. None of the techs knew what the S401 was though and just thought it was neat just because it was a twin turbo and right hand drive.... Sad day for the S401. I would've got just as much attention with an RSK or GT-B.

Why did STI even bother with making these cars (S series) if people are just going to think they're just "upgraded" versions of lower models?

Another annoying thing was that one of the techs (who had said he hadn't heard of the S series of cars) started talking to me about Japanese Imprezas and he got his facts wrong. He tried to tell me how he knew what he was talking about when I tried to correct him. I hate the internet and all the misinformation it spreads...
Oh well, at least I got to check out an RS7. That thing is amazing.

[Reason]

Techs know everything about cars, you didn't know this?

[Muse]

Eeeeeeevvvvvvvvvverrrrryyyyyyythiiiiinnnngggggggggg.

[Reuben]

Why did STI even bother with making these cars (S series) if people are just going to think they're just "upgraded" versions of lower models?



Because they didn't make those cars with the general public in mind (especially not the American general public), they made them with the serious enthusiast in mind. Heck, the s-series could be considered the cars the engineers designed for themselves!

[Dead91silvia]

Why did STI even bother with making these cars (S series) if people are just going to think they're just "upgraded" versions of lower models?



Because they didn't make those cars with the general public in mind (especially not the American general public), they made them with the serious enthusiast in mind. Heck, the s-series could be considered the cars the engineers designed for themselves!

I have to agree with Reuben. Even in America, there are cars that little know about. Like the COPO Camaro of the Hellcat Challenger. Cars most tech in America have no clue about. These cars are built for a VERY small amount of people that care about them.

As an American, I actually dont know as much as my other American friends when it comes to Domestic cars because, well, I find them kinda boring. This is why I have most of my knowledge set on Japanese imports. They fascinate me. The S401 to me is a car like the COCP Camaro. Extremely rare, not cheap, but few know about it. I also have corrected many people on Japanese cars and assumptions. This is why I always ask a crazy amount of odd questions when I visit, I want to make sure I'm right when it comes to Japan. Two weeks ago I had the detailer (at my friends car lot) try and school me on about Z32 300ZX's. Saying so many inaccurate information that I finally realized it was a waste of my time to share what I know, and what I know is right.

My parts guy at the local dealer admits he knows nothing about cars, but loves my GT-B. I told him and showed him pics of the S401 and educated him on it and he has a lot of respect for it. Some people will listen when there is someone they know, know their stuff. Some Subaru people dont know a damn thing and this is generally the internet warriors. Most have not seen the cars they claim to know about. Hell, I had someone try and school me on GT-B's and told me mine was a conversion! How funny is that?!

At any rate, we know what you have. Many of us have seen it in person, ridden in it, and I was even privileged to drive it a small bit (wish I could have opened it up!) and we all love and respect the S401 and the other S cars after it. :smt023

Sorry, got carried away. hehe... . :grin:

[Muse]

I once gave up on trying to convince some kid that there was not, in fact, a Legacy 2.5GT coupe. But he swore up and down that there was, and what would I know, I don't have a GT, just a wagon, and NO, the Impreza RS coupe was something different.

...Totally missing the fact that the GT also came in wagon, and that I actually knew what the hell I was talking about.

[soba noodle]

Damn I thought GT was a wagon and RS/B4 was a sedan (judging by JDM catalogues). JDM at least.

[Muse]

Not in the US. GT was just the top-of-the-line trim for sedans or wagons here. RS was a trim level on the Impreza.

[Yamazaki]

Damn I thought GT was a wagon and RS/B4 was a sedan (judging by JDM catalogues). JDM at least.
That's only 3rd Gen. 1st and 2nd Gen had GT sedans. US 3rd Gen was a little more like those. Then it all changed again in Japan for the 4th Gen. North America got an even more different set of models (regarding RS, etc.)

At least Subaru knows how to be consistent... :smt011

[Redcam1]

I once gave up on trying to convince some kid that there was not, in fact, a Legacy 2.5GT coupe. But he swore up and down that there was...

Well there is that one....lol

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1422397_10200895487891919_1547183694_n.jpg?oh=2260ed8f2077764a15e6bf2477976734&oe=545DC055

[Dead91silvia]

^ HAHA! Chuk made that pic for me a few years ago.

Hey Yama, how much were those wheel s we looked up when I was over there last? The BBS's on the S401.

[rkrenicki]

Hey Yama, how much were those wheel s we looked up when I was over there last? The BBS's on the S401.

The S401 wheels are 95,040¥ per wheel.

http://sti.jp/parts/catalogue/bebh_legacy/cat7.html

[Muse]

^ HAHA! Chuk made that pic for me a few years ago.
If anyone could do it, Mr. Sawz-a-car-in-half, it's you.

[Yamazaki]

^ HAHA! Chuk made that pic for me a few years ago.
If anyone could do it, Mr. Sawz-a-car-in-half, it's you.
That's what I was thinking too. :lol:

[Yamazaki]

So I'm tossing about the idea of selling the S401 as well as the Impreza. It's just an idea (whereas the Impreza is for sale now), so no need to wonder the fate of North America's lone S401 just yet.
1) To begin with, I'd have to figure out it's value- both market and real. However, I don't know how to begin calculating something like this.
2) Then, I'd have to find a person willing to pay that value with the money to do so.

Only two steps, and both are not easy.

[Dead91silvia]

Well, this is something I dont support, but it's your car and ultimately your decision.

1st: Looking at how much the cars are going for in Japan. Only cars of the same or better caliber. Same or less miles, options and such.

2nd: Do the same for cars outside of Japan.

3rd: Calculate 100% of your cost to get the car to the United States legally and able to stay.

4th: If possible, you need to complete the registration so it's Legal to drive on the road. You also might want to look into getting a federal bond release if you dont already have one.

5th: Find a place that can do a value appraisal. A place that does classic cars might be able to do it for you.

Thats all I can think of now. Keep in mind this is a Legacy, not a GTR. We all know the S401 is a rare car, but it's also not well known. However, that does not make it worth less.

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

So I'm tossing about the idea of selling the S401 as well as the Impreza. It's just an idea (whereas the Impreza is for sale now), so no need to wonder the fate of North America's lone S401 just yet.
1) To begin with, I'd have to figure out it's value- both market and real. However, I don't know how to begin calculating something like this.
2) Then, I'd have to find a person willing to pay that value with the money to do so.

Only two steps, and both are not easy.

Looks like my WRX might be for sale if Yama is cleaning out the garage! haha

[dodik]

try to find a collector club in your area, going to classic meets or events as they would call them, preferably with the car. Basically get it advertised enough for someone to want one, as none of their friends would have it.

as stupid as it sounds that show "whats my car worth" send them a couple of pics and see what they say.

but to get top dollar it will have to be legally registered in the USA, otherwise start looking for a UK buyer, shipping is not too expensive and folks there would love it.

[soba noodle]

Wonder what something like that would cost over there. Seen them going for NZ$10-15k depending on condition/mileage/seller's desire to sell.

[Yamazaki]

Wonder what something like that would cost over there. Seen them going for NZ$10-15k depending on condition/mileage/seller's desire to sell.
Perhaps I'm mis-interpreting your post, but it seems like there are a number of them for sale there. Mathematically speaking, considering the small number produced, the amount of time since production (increasing chance of destruction), and the size of the world that they can be exported to (pretty much anywhere but North America), I wonder how many are genuine for sale in NZ. On top of that, I would be absolutely stunned to see one that is factory with only 40,000kms on the odometer.

[soba noodle]

The ones I've seen were definitely genuine (and for the price they go I doubt anyone would fake them, in NZ anyway). Higher kms though. You'll be surprised how many limited editions end up in NZ.

[dodik]

from a simple search in google it showed only a couple of them were available in NZ both were over $20k and 100k km. and i think thats probably what it would cost on the other side of the world. here in states who knows maybe more maybe less.

[soba noodle]

At least two new S401 were brought in by a Subaru dealership plus s/h ones imported by used car dealerships.

To put it simply - no one in New Zealand will pay $20+ grand for S401, you can get S402 for around that or an Impreza STI V8+ (most likely scenario). Sadly local ebay aka trademe doesn't keep photographs/end bids of finished auctions to show you "real selling" prices.

But yeah, up to you basically whether to believe or not. Google obviously knows better :D

[Muse]

New idea: Group buy. 52 of us chip in, and everyone gets a week with it.

[Reuben]

The ones I've seen were definitely genuine (and for the price they go I doubt anyone would fake them, in NZ anyway). Higher kms though. You'll be surprised how many limited editions end up in NZ.

Yup, that stuff gets dumped here when the japanese business men that own these cars as trophies see the newer model come out. Sad, but good for us! I've seen a couple for real, there's even an S-edition in town, but they are not as rare (same blue, similar wheels, red 4-pots instead of brembo's, no special tune etc).

There's no S401's up for sale at the moment, but there's an S-edition (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/subaru/auction-776365190.htm) for 7,500 right now.
there's an S204 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/subaru/auction-782602010.htm) though


Honestly, it's not worth selling the S401... why the hell would you go through the amazing mess and pain you went though to import a car that you don't care about... And if that's inaccurate, and you do care about it, why are you even considering selling it? I doubt you'll get your money back either.

I dunno, it just seems like an illogical thing to consider selling it...

[soba noodle]

The ones I've seen were definitely genuine (and for the price they go I doubt anyone would fake them, in NZ anyway). Higher kms though. You'll be surprised how many limited editions end up in NZ.

Yup, that stuff gets dumped here when the japanese business men that own these cars as trophies see the newer model come out. Sad, but good for us! I've seen a couple for real, there's even an S-edition in town, but they are not as rare (same blue, similar wheels, red 4-pots instead of brembo's, no special tune etc).

There's no S401's up for sale at the moment, but there's an S-edition (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/subaru/auction-776365190.htm) for 7,500 right now.
there's an S204 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/subaru/auction-782602010.htm) though


Honestly, it's not worth selling the S401... why the hell would you go through the amazing mess and pain you went though to import a car that you don't care about... And if that's inaccurate, and you do care about it, why are you even considering selling it? I doubt you'll get your money back either.

I dunno, it just seems like an illogical thing to consider selling it...

What he said.

Re: S-edition. A lot of people do not even know that they're selling something semi-special and that's how you can get an S-edition for the price of a GT-B :roll:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/09/q8Ot2Sv-1.jpg

Not to mention a couple of WR-Limited wagons:

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/09/gubgebK-1.jpg

and

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/09/kiRUJnd-1.jpg

Impreza STI Spec C V-Limited [Toshi Arai] anyone?

https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2014/09/Z9uAQCC-1.jpg

[hansvonaxion]

Call Gas Monkey Garage.

[98legwag]

Call Gas Monkey Garage.
Haha, doubt they would want it. They do mostly domestic stuff. But you never know.

[Yamazaki]

Re: S-edition. A lot of people do not even know that they're selling something semi-special and that's how you can get an S-edition for the price of a GT-B :roll:
Not to mention a couple of WR-Limited wagons:

Impreza STI Spec C V-Limited [Toshi Arai] anyone?
In Japan, none of those are considered "special". Unfortunately, Japan is the land of "special edition" cars. They'll call something special just for the paint job (look at the "midnight purple edition" GT-R). Even the "tuned by STI" and "tS" models are just another model to them. Which makes it difficult to explain why the S series of cars and the RA-R are so different.
But go drive an unmodified RSK and then drive an unmodified S401 and you'll see that they are completely different vehicles. The S402 is even better still....

Anyway, I did say that I was just thinking about selling. Only the Impreza is actually on the chopping block. I just wanted to know what the S401 would fetch here in the land that isn't Japanese-car dumping grounds. I've had the S401 for six years already and I've put 30K kms on it. Maybe I should look toward something newer than a 12yr old car. But again, just thoughts.

[Dead91silvia]

You always crack me up.... I still love my 1998 Legacy, even though I do drive almost new cars all the time. All your going to do is sell it and then get a car that 40,000 other people in America have. The S401 is special, even though only to a few, it's a legend to us. :smt023

[Reuben]

Maybe I should look toward something newer than a 12yr old car. But again, just thoughts.

The BC driver in me is spitting tacks at that statement... Newer is for daily duties.... Weekend duties cars can be as old as the hills, it's not a relevant thing to them.

Funny thing is my daily's a 1990, and the weekend beast is a 98... I've put 70,000k's on beast too, which is nothing compared to Amy's GC, which she's put 200,000 on. Both 98's, both our special babies that we will never sell, that will never be old and deprecated to us, they are as much a part of our lives as we are to each other.

I think I know what's wrong here, you're thinking logically about the situation. Trust me, gotta go with gut feeling with cars. The money we pour into them is never made back, instead it's poured in as an investment to our well-being, our enjoyment when we take them out for a spin. Not something you can put a monetary value on, and not something a newer car can do better, just because of its age.

It's good to have these thoughts once in a while, it can make you appreciate what you have all the more by the end of it. :smt002

Lastly, go watch all the vids on this channel. very relevant.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgyJPi ... ut3E9K99KA (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgyJPixJl95X1ut3E9K99KA)

[Muse]

I think I know what's wrong here, you're thinking logically about the situation. Trust me, gotta go with gut feeling with cars. The money we pour into them is never made back, instead it's poured in as an investment to our well-being, our enjoyment when we take them out for a spin. Not something you can put a monetary value on, and not something a newer car can do better, just because of its age.
Someone once told me "Money can't buy you happiness. Not directly. But it can buy you experiences, and experiences bring you happiness. Sometimes more than the money you put into them"
The s401 is a once-in-a-lifetime experience, not something you'll ever really put a satisfactory price tag on.

[dodik]

to get a feel for a price you have to advertise it, this forum knows what you have and appreciate it, but only a handful of folks could actually afford it, monetary or interest wise.

Put an add on nastysock see what imprezza fanboys think about it, much more exposure. I agree with others that cars do become part of the family after a while but at the same time you have one life and if you feel you have experienced S401 to its full potential it may be time to move on.
To me it doesn't matter what year a vehicle is, if it is doing it's intended purpose then no reason to part with it, but if you are having second thoughts it may be time to move on.
I always though my next car would be 3.6 Outback or turbo Fozzy, and i am driving Tribeca and wouldn't have it any other way, as sad as it was to let the old outback go, it was the right time. And i've had it for 7 plus years put 155k miles on it two trannies, 10 sets of wheels, few suspensions etc, those seats were like molded to my body, but still Tribeca is what I need now and thats what I have.

[Yamazaki]

In return for working on my H6 and making so much progress, I let Rkrenicki take the S401 out for a decent drive. We were both surprised that even though he has genuine S401 suspension on his car (not just struts/springs, but control arms, etc. also), the S401 is still totally different.

[rkrenicki]

Yes, I do not believe that any amount of bolt-on items will make another car even close. The S401 and my car (from a suspension standpoint) are identical with the exception of the swaybars and the rear lateral links, neither of which would give us the massive differences we felt. The S401 is extremely communicative with the driver via the pedals and steering, while my car is communicative via my butt.

The S401 suspension is a significant improvement for my car, but the end result is nothing like the silky smoothness that is the S401. There is something fundamentally different between the cars that is not in any service manual that I have seen.

I am convinced there is an "S401 module" somewhere in the car that is full of magic pixie dust and the tears of angels that makes the car the way it is.

I only wish I was not so nervous about driving it to let myself get comfortable with it.

[Yamazaki]

I got pulled over by police a couple days ago because he "didn't see a driver". Okay, fine. I can understand that. But then he issues me a written warning for not wearing a seatbelt (I was wearing a seatbelt the whole time)! WTH? It reminded me of the guy who pulled me over in my Impreza because of a license plate cover and issued me a written warning for expired driver's license (it wasn't). This place is shady with its police that can pull you over for anything.

[Muse]

At peast it was just a warning. Probably they need to justify the stop or something...

[amgarrety]

It astounds me that a cop sees a car with no visible driver, and thinks they can pull it over.

a) Cars can't drive themselves.

b) Self driving cars wouldn't be conscious enough to pull over for human cops.

c) Even if you pull over a self driving car, what are you going to cite it for?

Sounds to me like someone wanted to bust an illegal import.

[Dead91silvia]

I was actually cracking up when you texted that to me. I was like "What?! It's not like that thing has blacked out windows!"

Time to move back to CA?

[amgarrety]

I was actually cracking up when you texted that to me. I was like "What?! It's not like that thing has blacked out windows!"

Time to move back to CA?

Shhhh... Time for you to move to MD.

[Dead91silvia]

I was actually cracking up when you texted that to me. I was like "What?! It's not like that thing has blacked out windows!"

Time to move back to CA?

Shhhh... Time for you to move to MD.

Move to the land of kryptonite? Are you crazy!!! :shock:

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

I was actually cracking up when you texted that to me. I was like "What?! It's not like that thing has blacked out windows!"

Time to move back to CA?

Shhhh... Time for you to move to MD.

Move to the land of kryptonite? Are you crazy!!! :shock:

I'll help you caravan the car fleet over here. I call dibs on the GT-B! Lol

[Muse]

I'll drive one of the Pulsars!

[98legwag]

Someone on the Mighty Car Mods forum posted that the Subaru S401 is a dime a dozen.....Some people don't get it.

[amgarrety]

Someone on the Mighty Car Mods forum posted that the Subaru S401 is a dime a dozen.....Some people don't get it.

Well of course, there are tons of them! (by weight)

[98legwag]

Someone on the Mighty Car Mods forum posted that the Subaru S401 is a dime a dozen.....Some people don't get it.

Well of course, there are tons of them! (by weight)
Dude over there said they are the same as any tt BE/BH. I nearly pissed myself I laughed so hard.

[Muse]

You really have to ride in it to get it.

[98legwag]

Oh, I have ridden in it. Its perk of being local to this amazing machine.

[Yamazaki]

You really have to ride in it to get it.
Yeah, but to really really get it, you need to have something to compare it to. To my knowledge, on this forum only hansvonaxion, dead91silvia, and dewess can compare it to anything similar (dewess can even compare it to an RSK). All of them say it's quite different from the twin turbos they are used to. Of course, I think dead91silvia needs to use better gas in his GT-B, but it still won't be an S401.

[xoSubieLegacyxo]

You really have to ride in it to get it.

I still haven't gotten a ride in it :smt022

[Dead91silvia]

You know, I actually used 110 oct in my wagon a few times. It ran a little better, but nothing as smooth as the S401. Fuel will not eliminate the VoD my GT-B has. I'll know a bit better when my car is back on the road.

The refinements of the S401 are quite different then my GT-B, thats for sure. A million times smoother in ride and drive, and the tuning is just well done. Having also driven a few STi Impreza's, they are not even close either. Only car I have driven thats even close was an A6 Audi, but still nothing even close.

[Reuben]

Here you go, one popped up for sale here. http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=815880475

[bijon440]

^^^that is just some different kind of beautiful.

[peugoby]

I will be in town over Christmas & New Years. I hope I can make some time to see this beauty in person.

[Yamazaki]

I will be in town over Christmas & New Years. I hope I can make some time to see this beauty in person.
Ha, we'll be in New York for Christmas. But we should be back for New Year. :smt023

[Muse]

Here you go, one popped up for sale here. http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=815880475
Looks like it's sitting a little high... Also, the bumper looks different. Maybe just a lip, though.

[Yamazaki]

I was going through this thread to look for some specific info on the S401, and I came across this:

Woo hoo! I have internet and can upload pictures again! Here you guys go:
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2012/05/photobucket424761337289198705-1.jpg

Def one of the best subaru collections here in the US. I would def get a forester xt as a daily if i was you. I think the blitzen outback your building is nice but the truth is it will never compare to the s401 you have. With that said, your STI , s401, and a forester xt would be the best of all worlds. So sell me you type D blitzen stuff =P

imagine your blue sti and blue legacy with this:

That Forester XT is meant to be with them other amazing monsters <3

I guess I should now take a picture of the FXT with the other three....

[geckoboy86]

I think it made an impression at Boxerfest.
https://sl-i.net/FORUM/images/imported/2015/04/Screen2520Shot2520201504262520at25201020-1.jpg

[Yamazaki]

So I've told a few people this already...
At Boxerfest SoA representatives got to check out the S401 and even take it for a test drive. They said they are interested in purchasing it from me and we will stay in touch. They took my contact information and gave me theirs.
Part of me hopes they buy it, part of me hopes they don't.

[98legwag]

Found some nice pictures someone took of the S401

https://www.flickr.com/photos/t3hwit/sets/72157652191995462/

[98legwag]

Found this on Facebook.
http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g378/98legwag/11134142_1005712136107980_3409620610467395322_o_zpswhdsxetx.jpg

[Dead91silvia]

So I've told a few people this already...
At Boxerfest SoA representatives got to check out the S401 and even take it for a test drive. They said they are interested in purchasing it from me and we will stay in touch. They took my contact information and gave me theirs.
Part of me hopes they buy it, part of me hopes they don't.

I'm actually impressed you took it there! It's also exciting to see that Subaru might be interested, however, I love this car dearly and also hope you keep it... but this is your car.

I'm happy a few more people got to enjoy it. I also hope that I can take it for one more drive before you sell it, if it does indeed happen.

[98legwag]

More from Facebook.

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g378/98legwag/11182776_375667799306877_7125726681338864688_o_zpsup5ftqln.jpg

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g378/98legwag/10495987_375667795973544_5911774496508001842_o_zps7bo6wcmb.jpg

[98legwag]

And again....

http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g378/98legwag/11196293_375746695965654_7239032978239586256_n_zps7ldackg8.jpg

[thenines']

I think you should show us your legs-much better looking than hers

[soba noodle]

Lol'd at the first pic :D

[geckoboy86]

Any updates?

[98legwag]

http://www.croooober.com/item/3711308

Want a spare set?

[Yamazaki]

So I reach out to SoA every couple weeks or so and they say they are still interested but then disappear until I bug them again. I'm not sure what to make of the situation....

[95USsubaru]

So I reach out to SoA every couple weeks or so and they say they are still interested but then disappear until I bug them again. I'm not sure what to make of the situation....

any update on the situation??

[Yamazaki]

Sadly no. The representative I deal with at the local office is very responsive and I appreciate that, but he isn't the person that makes the decisions on things like this. The guy who does is out of Cherry Hill and isn't even very responsive the the local rep. I'm very frustrated here. I would rather them say they aren't interested outright than continue to ignore me. I'm not going to beg them to buy the car. I'm perfectly happy being the only person on the continent with one. The problem is space. I may have to ship it home to San Diego in a couple years if SoA doesn't buy it and that would be sad for everybody because it would just disappear in storage and nobody would ever get a chance to see it.

[Yamazaki]

I'm tired of waiting on SoA. So I asked IAG if they'd be interested in buying the S401. They passed but said they could help advertise it (they know people in the right circles) as long as they get a cut of the sale. I was told to send them pictures and information on it, but I'm finding that I have shockingly few pictures of the S401. Actually, I have very few pics of all of my cars other than the Imprezaab....

It kinda shows what's actually important to me.

[MRLancaster]

I wish I could get a loan out for it.

[98legwag]

I would not say the S401 is not important to you. I would say its not practical here since you cannot legally drive it. I think if you were able to register it then this would be a different story.

[Yamazaki]

I would not say the S401 is not important to you. I would say its not practical here since you cannot legally drive it. I think if you were able to register it then this would be a different story.
You are 100% correct. I don't even care about the legality of it, but it bothers my wife greatly. The other annoyance is the 96 Octane requirement.

[MRLancaster]

I just hope we don't see it get crushed.

[Yamazaki]

I just hope we don't see it get crushed.

Huh? Who would buy it just to crush it? Do you mean Customs? They don't care because it's in here legally. They've closed the case on its importation. I spent two and a half years with paperwork and fees before it even came here to make sure of that.

[MRLancaster]

Okay, yeah I wasn't sure if it had any risk of that. It's good to know there is no chance of that. :)

[98legwag]

So I was looking up something for a friend on the ee20 and came across a chart that says the final drive on the S401 is 3.90. I thought that seems to tall for how quick the S401 accelerates. Would you happen to know the final drive on this beast/beauty?

[Yamazaki]

3.9 is correct. It's essentially the same transmission in my Impreza, just shorter 5th and 6th, and no DCCD.