"Aggressive" wheel fitment on second gen BG Legacy?

[teh luckinator]

My original post from legacygt.com, but I was told sl-i was more for second gens, so here it is:

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Before I start, this thread is not asking for opinions or education on suspension geometry, cars not being functional when low, excessive camber is stupid, etc. It's a thread asking ABOUT wheel fitment, not WHY would I do want to do that (although I do expect a reply like that).

Just seeing WHAT (again, not WHY) wheels people are running on older Legacys. I planned on getting some 17x9's, until I saw this picture:



17x8 +22

Talking to my friend, he says older Subarus have smaller wheel wells, which I forgot to take into account.

Yes, I am going for the "hellaflush/aggressive/blahblahblah," as much as I hate coining those terms.

Post up your "wide" wheels if you have them, please!

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And the other question, anyone have experience with Megan and Godspeed coilovers on BG/BD? Yes, they ride like poo, yes they're cheap, yes <insert negative feedback here>. Real question, how low do they go?

Evidently, this is a ricer thread.

I shouldn't go that low.
My axles will rub the frame.
Handling will be horrible.
Rubbing everywhere.
Bottoming out on the road.
etc.

But it's going to happen.

So, people with experience with Godspeed and Megan, please chime in on HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT, not ride quality.

My previous car for reference of how ricey I am:





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After looking around more and posting on that forum, I found more lowered Legacy's. I'll post the cars later, they're probably on here, but I think the sizes I saw were 17x8 +44 or something, aka high offset. I'm pretty sure I'm just gonna get some 17x9's and make them fit, it shouldn't be too bad after looking around at more cars. Just seeing if anyone has tried it yet?

[2000gtb]

I have a BH5 and im trying to fit 18x9.5 +38 on the front +28 on the rear.. still waiting on them though... I too like that super aggressive set ups...

[hallowpoint]

i had some 17x8 +35 offset fn1or-c. on my wagon

[aurelius]

More pics? I'm all for aggressive but there aren't that many on BDs. Basically, Sybir and the Girodisc cars.
As soon as I get my transmission fixed, 17x8s are the first thing i'm going to do.

Here's some I found off Nasioc:

[chromehorn]

Those look nice. I'm going with 16's though. Running BBS rxiis from the Jetta Wolfsburg this summer. They're only 6.5 wide but will switch to a 16x9 or 9.5 eventually. Figured I just get some cheap 16's for the time being. Basically going for a slammed daily cruiser. Will be keeping an eye on this thread.

[teh luckinator]

hallowpoint - how much camber did you have? i think i have a picture of your car. what i noticed about subarus is when you lower it you don't get more negative camber. guess i'll need some camber bolts, i wonder how much adjustment those give.

aurelius - sweet pictures man! i've been looking through the legacy owners gallery on nasioc, i'm on page 63 so i have a long way to go. any more info on those cars? particularily the black one. how wide are the wheels, camber, etc? looks decent though!

also, here's that yellow car's build thread:

http://legacygt.com/forums/showthrea....html?t=100555

and his flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/yokotas...7606361905142/

[aurelius]

aurelius - sweet pictures man! i've been looking through the legacy owners gallery on nasioc, i'm on page 63 so i have a long way to go. any more info on those cars? particularily the black one. how wide are the wheels, camber, etc? looks decent though!

Haha, i've been there and done that. Found the blue one on google images.

Here's the post for the dark green one.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...&postcount=404

[SOREN]

I took a look at the build on LegacyGT, and it's different, but I like it. I'd love to see more of this kind of thing from Japan - got to be honest. I'm interested to see what you do here.

[wiisass]

Those 17x8+22 in that first picture look like they would tuck if the car was lowered.

You could always measure and take a guess. Then just bring a hammer and a fender roller when you go to put them on. I did that on my BH and it worked out well. My wheels could use a little bit of a spacer to make them fit the way I want, but overall I was pretty happy with my guess. I went with 18x9+35 on the wagon and it wasn't nearly as hard to fit as everyone said.

But that's a different car and I have heard that the earlier ones have more trouble fitting awesome wheels.

Just remember, you can always run a spacer if you take a more conservative guess. And if you look at those pictures that Aurelius posted, those wheels wouldn't look very good with the car lowered.

[teh luckinator]

aurelius - thanks for the link man! i wonder what size they are

SOREN - yeah i'm interested to see what happens too. i'm not supposed to be spending much on this, because my track car is supposed to get all the money. doubt that will happen though.

wiisass - i was thinking that too. another thing i'm taking into account is how much camber i can get with camber bolts and camber plates. i'm pretty much saying fuck it and going with some 17x9's though haha. how much camber do you have with those wheels? and yeah i could run a spacer if anything. btw your car is awesome, i've watched that whole wagonforce thread on zt blow up haha. i really want one of those mini vans that matt panic posted, but they're basically impossible to find. mark still has his though, i want it!

[hallowpoint]

hallowpoint - how much camber did you have? i think i have a picture of your car. what i noticed about subarus is when you lower it you don't get more negative camber. guess i'll need some camber bolts, i wonder how much adjustment those give.

you can get a little camber out of the front but the rears you will need camber bolts.

[hallowpoint]

or you can be like me and take a hammer and a heat gun and start pulling your fenders. you can also use a baseball bat and have someone drive the car back and forth.

[chromehorn]

Where is this wagonforce thread you speak of? I would like to have a look.

[teh luckinator]

hallowpoint - yeah i'll probably end up pulling the fenders, that's fine with me. and i don't think i'll have to worry about the quarter panel buckling like they do on 240's haha

chromehorn - it's on ziptied somewhere. i thought it was in the chaos forum but i can't find it.

[hallowpoint]

[jospgut]

they were 18x8

[Reason]

they were 18x8

Hey can you tell me more of your wheel and suspension set up?

[wiisass]

aurelius - thanks for the link man! i wonder what size they are

SOREN - yeah i'm interested to see what happens too. i'm not supposed to be spending much on this, because my track car is supposed to get all the money. doubt that will happen though.

wiisass - i was thinking that too. another thing i'm taking into account is how much camber i can get with camber bolts and camber plates. i'm pretty much saying fuck it and going with some 17x9's though haha. how much camber do you have with those wheels? and yeah i could run a spacer if anything. btw your car is awesome, i've watched that whole wagonforce thread on zt blow up haha. i really want one of those mini vans that matt panic posted, but they're basically impossible to find. mark still has his though, i want it!

Just take the most aggressive setup people are running and make it stick out another inch and then make it fit. I mean you could probably make those 17x8+22 wheels fit with some pulling. I guess it depends on how much work you want to do.

If Hallowpoint had any fitment pictures, that would probably help.

I'm running like 2-3*, I forget now. I had the sheet from the alignment, but don't know where it went. I'm not really concerned with it though. Tire wear seems alright. And the tires are cheap anyway.

Thanks for the compliment. You're on ziptied? What's your name on there? Those little mitsu things are pretty awesome. But they do seem pretty impossible to find.

And Wagonforce is still blowing up. Well I did get a couple requests for stickers this weekend at E-town. Hopefully I'll stay interested and make it something. There is a blog on the site, just haven't had any time with getting ready to kick off the Club Loose season.

[jospgut]

they were 18x8

Hey can you tell me more of your wheel and suspension set up?

I have 2006 wrx struts, well the guy that sold me those springs told me that they are green H tech tein,But I looked everywhere and i couldn't find GREEN H TECHS. I feel them nice, is kinda stiffer, not saggy like the s tein, I really like them, but i wanna lift the car a little bit, too low.
The wheels are Mb weapon 18x8, I had to sell those, because it was rubbing, but I use to like those wheels.

[Reason]

So the do rub? What's the offset?

[SOREN]

Where is this wagonforce thread you speak of? I would like to have a look.

Perhaps you mean the one that the OP mentions:
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.p ... l?t=100555

I created a profile and made a comment that upset everyone.. oops. I guess I was just a little surprised. This guy, like our generous OP has done some interesting things, and is posting it for the general public to see. If it's not something you like, you don't have to look at the thread, I feel. There's really nothing to be gained by being a douche, it's not like either are putting Pepboys "Flair" all over the cars - they're doing interesting suspension and unique modification.. read it or leave it I say.

Kudos to the OP for the interesting build thread.

[wiisass]

That dude has nothing to do with WagonForce.

The Wagonforce thread is on ziptied in the chaos section which is private unless you're a member.

[chromehorn]

Ya saw the thread with the yellow BG before.

Will have a look into the Ziptied one though. THanks

[Reason]

Wagonofdoom is on here, he has a members ride thread.

[jospgut]

So the do rub? What's the offset?

the off set was 30

[teh luckinator]

Just take the most aggressive setup people are running and make it stick out another inch and then make it fit. I mean you could probably make those 17x8+22 wheels fit with some pulling. I guess it depends on how much work you want to do.

If Hallowpoint had any fitment pictures, that would probably help.

I'm running like 2-3*, I forget now. I had the sheet from the alignment, but don't know where it went. I'm not really concerned with it though. Tire wear seems alright. And the tires are cheap anyway.

Thanks for the compliment. You're on ziptied? What's your name on there? Those little mitsu things are pretty awesome. But they do seem pretty impossible to find.

And Wagonforce is still blowing up. Well I did get a couple requests for stickers this weekend at E-town. Hopefully I'll stay interested and make it something. There is a blog on the site, just haven't had any time with getting ready to kick off the Club Loose season.

I have the same name, I just lurk haha. I was on the DJ Elecktrique forums too so I registered pretty early on ZT.

And those stickers are awesome!

[sybir]

I've had 18x8.5 ET48's with 245's under the fenders on my wagon....it can be done, you just need to know what you're doing. I'll skip the disclaimers for the Ziptied kids, as everyone's already set up camp on stance vs function, and you know what's up with coils, camber, and fenders. One thing is very, very important, though - the 2nd-gen Legacies are McStruts all around. That means no camber gain under compression, you actually lose camber (unlike a 240, for example, where you you keep gaining camber the lower you go). That means if it just barely clears at ride height......you're going to be all over the fenders. Slamming it won't pull them in, it'll make the problem worse

I'm not into running a ton of camber - I knocked the plates in on the front to about 2 degrees when I was running the 245's to keep them off the fenders under compression. Anything's possible, and the fenders don't tend to buckle - I did a pull on my rears years ago with no issues. They rub with 215's on a 7.5 stock, so you've got some work to do.

245's on an 18x8.5, "regular" offset.



Narrow 235's on a different 18x8.5





Hope that helps.

[teh luckinator]

Thanks for the info sybir! Helped tons! You're Dre's friend, right? He had a Legacy, now he has a Wagon. We should chill sometime, I'd love to see your car in person.

And more positive camber when lowering, that's horrible. I doubt camber bolts will be enough. But I'm not worrying about anything for now, I still have to wait for the car to be under my name.

[aekOne]

i'm running 18x8 +55 offset. not exactly super aggressive but a perfect fit with no scrubbing

[httrdd]

I am about to go 18's. Those look really good. I never would of thought of running 18's with the old ej25 in there!